at first: this is not a "whats the best rom" thread.
i have 2 very focused questions:
What are the idle times with those different roms?
Are there some Main feature differences?
Aktually im running cm11 m5 snapshot with smartassv2 Governor. its smooth but the battery life is kinda poor.
Im looking for a rom with long battery life. And i dont care about google now, talking to my phone(ok google) nor i need the special features from the standart samsung rom.
Would be realy helpfull if u can review to my questions. Greetings!
pls apologize my bad english.
1 each phone is different depending on what's installed and running.
2 read there threads or flash each ROM and find out that way. You forgot about aokp?
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1 each phone is different depending on what's installed and running.
2 read there threads or flash each ROM and find out that way. You forgot about aokp?
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2. thx for informing abaout aokp!
1. im asking for someone who did a test with the same phone and all roms. i dont ask for different situations, i sked fpr idle time and features!
Probably there is somebody out there who testet it and can present his results
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2. thx for informing abaout aokp!
1. im asking for someone who did a test with the same phone and all roms. i dont ask for different situations, i sked fpr idle time and features!
Probably there is somebody out there who testet it and can present his results
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There are no definitive results, I have used both and I keep coming back to Omni due to the fact that on SlimKat music stutters like crazy when the screen is locked. Also, Omni updates are small enough to update often without having to download a complete update, to many users this a huge deal due to data limitations in certain countries. As for usage, idle time etc, like stated before, that depends entirely on what is installed on your device. Install a bunch of apps that need to constantly receive data updates and you will have battery drain and very little deep sleep. Where features are concerned, you kinda learn to live with limitations due to missing features on a specific rom. If you really want, you can most likely find an app that will bring a missing feature to a rom. I see a lot of people throwing their toys out the cot because one of the other does not have a specific feature implimented, yet the developers have done so with good reason, usually either performance or battery life.
With all said, there are many roms out there, Omni and SlimKat aren't the only players. It's difficult to compare roms nowadays because you are never quite sure if your kernel tweaking or custom kernel with it's hundreds of tweaks is the reason for a device not going into deep sleep either.
Give them all a try and decide for yourself, nandroid backups and apps like Titanium Backup makes it so easy.
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There are no definitive results, I have used both and I keep coming back to Omni due to the fact that on SlimKat music stutters like crazy when the screen is locked. Also, Omni updates are small enough to update often without having to download a complete update, to many users this a huge deal due to data limitations in certain countries. As for usage, idle time etc, like stated before, that depends entirely on what is installed on your device. Install a bunch of apps that need to constantly receive data updates and you will have battery drain and very little deep sleep. Where features are concerned, you kinda learn to live with limitations due to missing features on a specific rom. If you really want, you can most likely find an app that will bring a missing feature to a rom. I see a lot of people throwing their toys out the cot because one of the other does not have a specific feature implimented, yet the developers have done so with good reason, usually either performance or battery life.
With all said, there are many roms out there, Omni and SlimKat aren't the only players. It's difficult to compare roms nowadays because you are never quite sure if your kernel tweaking or custom kernel with it's hundreds of tweaks is the reason for a device not going into deep sleep either.
Give them all a try and decide for yourself, nandroid backups and apps like Titanium Backup makes it so easy.
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Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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Sure you can do what you stated but bear in mind how will you compare the battery life across roms..
There should be some standardized test... Like looping video playback or some other method which does not change based on you usage habits..
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Pa is another you're missing from you're list of developed roms. What you could do is test video playback, calls incoming/outgoing,one game of choice "high end battery draining game" and compere them all. As for the kernel tuning.. Read about what really happens and you will fine not a lot does happen with UV/uc .
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Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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You can compare but you have to use that phone for more days not like just one and you have to full charge and then discharge 2 or 3 times till the phone make the correct battery stats. So i think you can test but better with daily use or get an app that drains battey faster well i think this may work
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Any guides detailing differences in ROMs and Rooting options?
I'd like to know if upgrading to certain ROMs will end up in loss of phone
functionality, such as the camera.
Looking for best battery saving options too.
Mike
panamamike said:
Any guides detailing differences in ROMs and Rooting options?
I'd like to know if upgrading to certain ROMs will end up in loss of phone
functionality, such as the camera.
Looking for best battery saving options too.
Mike
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Basically the difference among ROMS are its additional functionalities.
-Lesser battery consumption
-Better performance whether it will be for gaming or for surfing the net, or simply for better phone usage.
-Multitiouch features ( On development )
-Uniqueness
Others correct me if I'm wrong. Ofcourse the basics of a phone is still every developers' priority.
As for rooting - I did use SuperOnClick. Basically this is the first step in order for you to customize your phone.
Yes. some roms still have bugs that needs to be fixed. Although in my experience I use custom roms made by owain94 and slade87 and everything works perfectly on my phone.
It made a huge difference with regards to battery drainage. With my phone on standby (6hrs when I'm asleep) it only drained 15 - 25% bat. I'll try to give you a an update regards to battery drainage when I charge my phone. (my bat is still at 75%). IDK if this experience is like everyone else's but imo that's whats happening to mine though.
Do some research. Try reading these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040149
You should do fine when you carefully analyze and read instructions first before applying necessary changes to your phone.
Don't forget to thank those XDA developers who made customizing our phone possible.
Hi guys sorry for this thread new here so please go easy on me. Had a galaxy s2 for a few weeks now and i have to say best phone ever. Did the normal rooting and flashing roms and i have noticed recently that my battery has been going down quite a lot after a few hours. I tried roms like Villainrom, Cognition, Batista and etc which i find them very good but on my battery stats it says that i have high display usage and the percentage is like 56 - 85 and sometimes goes and stays to 91. i have since then when back to 2.3.3 stock firmware rooted it as well and i only have display percentage of only 25% which i think is normal and my battery lasts longer. I have spoken to Samsung regarding this situation and they are sending me a new battery but im just wondering why i cant flash a custom rom without having to worry about the high display % and what can i do to fix it? do i have to give it a few days for the battery to settle on the rom or shall i just stay with the stock rom for now till i get my new battery and then try to flash? sorry for the long essay i just need to find out if any one else had the same problem as i really like to use a custom rom that my normal one.
THanks
I too find it very hard on the battery with all the custom roms that I have tried out. I tried, Villain, Cogniton, LeoMar, Batista, etc..etc..etc. I have in fact tried out all the ROMs out here. Tried even different combinations of Kernel, but all only lead to the frustration when it comes to battery life. I finally tried MIUI ROM and I can say that it is giving me very good battery life compared to other ROMs.
It is interesting to note from you that the STOCK ROM has given you better battery life. Could you please tell me how long did your battery last in Stock ROM and what are the Apps that were running in it?
Install Better Battery Stats, I don't think anything wrong with the battery.
See under Wakelocks what apps/processes are going in background and causing the drain. Then take necessary steps with TB Pro.
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to xdadeveloporian: thanks for your reply bk and sorry to hear that you had the same issues. like i said above i am very new to all this so apologies if i am replying with noobish comments. with wifi on and the normal widgets i had a battery life over a day. only charged it once and it still going. is that rom that you using now good?
and to ithappy sorry what do you mean by your reply i do not understand sorry. and do you guys think with a new battery it will fix my problems and i will be able to flash roms or do i have a faulty phone?
% is not important, what really matters is total time on for the display. Are you sure it isn't that the stock ROM burns more power in other areas, so the display is less? Or maybe the brightness is different? I'm not even sure how the display proportion of battery drain is apportioned - is there really a current sense integrator?
now that i have the stock rom with firmware 2.3.3 display is 30% followed by android os 15 - 19% which i think is normal into regards were i was on customs roms and the os was 15% and display 50% and over. brightness is basically at the lowest i can put it i am using touchwiz launcher and i only have two pages with widgets and nothing else. just a bit confusing thats all. i mean with custom roms the battery should be alot better not the other way round if you get me.
apologies if im not making any sense here. thanks again for all your replies it does help
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i mean with custom roms the battery should be alot better not the other way round if you get me.
apologies if im not making any sense here. thanks again for all your replies it does help
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I don't believe that stuff, why battery life would be better in a Custom ROM, because they added/modified some stuffs, nah. You can make a Stock ROM custom with some little modifications if you are rooted and have great apps like Root Explorer, Titanium Backup etc. I, for me, will never ever use a Custom ROM. But that's just me, don't take it any personally.
And about battery, don't see that how long are you getting with it, like- 1 day, 2 days, they don't make any sense, just keep an eye on the 'Screen On' time, if that is around or above 5 hours then you are very fine. And also keep checking that your Awake and Screen On bar is synchronized or not, if it is not then you must have something going on background, like- Latitude, Email exchange etc. which you can see under Better Battery Stats. And also, when not needed turn off, 3G, Packet Data, WiFi, Auto Sync, Background Sync and check how many apps are on Auto Sync, if not needed then modify it to Manual Sync.
Regards.
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I don't believe that stuff, why battery life would be better in a Custom ROM, because they added/modified some stuffs, nah.
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Maybe they fixed some bugs - specifically a custom kernel might have improvements or bug fixes (since there is lots of work going on here from many companies making contributions). This takes time to filter through to the official ROMs.
Maybe they removed some of the stock apps which contribute (maybe only slightly) to power drain.
Maybe the small differences in the ROM mean that existing bugs are less likely to have an impact, so even not fixing the bug it seems to have gone away.
Custom ROMs are as likely to make things worse - but if many people are affected then it is likely that someone will track down the reason.
Look all i know is that as soon as i started flashing custom roms on my phone my battery life has been going down like hell. Checking battery stats the most thing that is taking up battery life is the display being as high as 80 even 90 percent. I am not a expert on android having had an iphone all my life so when people say underclocking and other stuff its like new things to me so i do apologise for being such a noob. i do love my galaxy and i think its the best phone out there at the moment. all i need to know is if there is something that i can do to bring the display down and not to have it drain so much out of the battery..
Thanks again for everyone for replying
very niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
huh? has anyone else experience high display usage on their phones when checking battery stats?
is that from the android market i can get that app?
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is that from the android market i can get that app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
On my Desire I did it so I could get rid of all the operator rubbish and take screen shots, on my S2 its unbranded, unlocked, and can take screen shots out of the box.
It seems allot of peeps out there just flash roms for the sake of flashing, curiosity I guess. But I am getting the feeling very few actually take the time to read up on what any particular custom rom actually aims to do, thinking every rom is a silver bullet.
Official roms are a good solid middle ground where things like stability and battery life are the denominators. Some custom roms aims for a more elaborate GUI while others go for overclocking or perhaps fast adhoc bug fixes, again there are no silver bullets here, they all tackle different needs.
If you plan to try out custom or unofficial roms I suggest you read up on a few things like:
If it will impact your warranty
Do you know how to get back to stock
How do you get Samsung official updates after custom flash
What are my needs and what rom match them
I have tried out a few roms myself on a plethora of Android phones and always ended up back on stock roms. The only exeption was my old Galasy I7500 that never got a official rom above Cupcake and when Google started implementing features in Maps and Gmail that was only supported by Donut and above I was forced to go AOSP.
I agree their is currently very little performance difference between stock and custom roms .
Debrand yes via Stock Samsung rom but custom rom your choice read the posts in each rom to get an idea .
Saying that i run a Frankenstein rom with bits from here there and everywhere .
jje
For Stock ROM vs Custom ROM from stock derivative, there is overclocking and under-volting Kernels. So there can be a performance increase and lower power consumption depending on what the setting is.
Another difference is that there are certain "bloated" apps removed, or "better" apps pre-installed.
Such derivative roms are Lite'ning, Skyrom, etc.
As for Stock ROM vs Custom ROM (Non-Stock Derivatives), this is no longer a Samsung ROM, so there are no or little Samsung features and apps.
Non-Derivative ROMs are like CyanogenMod 7, etc.
The real advantage is that most of custom roms are more battery friendly then a stock one, makes your phone faster and very offen fix stock bugs.
HotlipsH said:
It seems allot of peeps out there just flash roms for the sake of flashing, curiosity I guess. But I am getting the feeling very few actually take the time to read up on what any particular custom rom actually aims to do, thinking every rom is a silver bullet.
Official roms are a good solid middle ground where things like stability and battery life are the denominators. Some custom roms aims for a more elaborate GUI while others go for overclocking or perhaps fast adhoc bug fixes, again there are no silver bullets here, they all tackle different needs.
If you plan to try out custom or unofficial roms I suggest you read up on a few things like:
If it will impact your warranty
Do you know how to get back to stock
How do you get Samsung official updates after custom flash
What are my needs and what rom match them
I have tried out a few roms myself on a plethora of Android phones and always ended up back on stock roms. The only exeption was my old Galasy I7500 that never got a official rom above Cupcake and when Google started implementing features in Maps and Gmail that was only supported by Donut and above I was forced to go AOSP.
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I would agree with this myself.I have just answered a thread somewhere else where someone wants to root & flash their new phone & they haven't even got it yet.I say "Have a play for a couple of weeks" Change some of the apps for one's from the Market & give it a chance.You might just stay with the stock rom.I know I did.
JJEgan said:
I agree their is currently very little performance difference between stock and custom roms .
Debrand yes via Stock Samsung rom but custom rom your choice read the posts in each rom to get an idea .
Saying that i run a Frankenstein rom with bits from here there and everywhere .
jje
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I don't agree with this at all, more often than not you will get substantially better battery life on custom ROM's as opposed to stock,not hearsay this is fact, not to mention more speed and less lag,etc,etc the limitations and possibilities are endless.
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For Stock ROM vs Custom ROM from stock derivative, there is overclocking and under-volting Kernels. So there can be a performance increase and lower power consumption depending on what the setting is.
Another difference is that there are certain "bloated" apps removed, or "better" apps pre-installed.
Such derivative roms are Lite'ning, Skyrom, etc.
As for Stock ROM vs Custom ROM (Non-Stock Derivatives), this is no longer a Samsung ROM, so there are no or little Samsung features and apps.
Non-Derivative ROMs are like CyanogenMod 7, etc.
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endorsed....
jonny68 said:
I don't agree with this at all, more often than not you will get substantially better battery life on custom ROM's as opposed to stock,not hearsay this is fact, not to mention more speed and less lag,etc,etc the limitations and possibilities are endless.
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Your view mine and based upon my testing is their is not much difference .If their was you would not have so many complaining in each rom thread about poor battery life .
Much better battery life and the majority would be running that rom only .
Possibilities may well be endless but at present no significant improvement such as their was on SGS1 .
Thats my view others as usual will agree and others will disagree .
jje
Although I flashed my Touch HD and HD 2 like crazy on SGS II it does not make much sense.
Only if You want to have a special theme You fell in love of it makes sense ............
For me: I start flashing when Darkedge-Theme is available for CM and CM is really flawless ....................
JJEgan said:
Your view mine and based upon my testing is their is not much difference .If their was you would not have so many complaining in each rom thread about poor battery life .
Much better battery life and the majority would be running that rom only .
Possibilities may well be endless but at present no significant improvement such as their was on SGS1 .
Thats my view others as usual will agree and others will disagree .
jje
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Well on the stock ROM i was lucky to get 15/16 hours battery life, on custom ROM's (for example Cognition 1.15) the highest i got was 28 hours 57 minutes, that is a serious difference in battery life, this is with pretty much the same usage - internet,calls,texts and music,people are always going to have issues with battery life regardless but if they follow some procedures good battery life can be achieved, installing Juice Defender ultimate should be their first step, of course your entitled to your opinion
I flash custom rom because the homebutton lagfix (reacts instant now) and removing all the text messages from my log. Looks really messed up with all those sms. And ofcourse theming
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jonny68 said:
Well on the stock ROM i was lucky to get 15/16 hours battery life, on custom ROM's (for example Cognition 1.15) the highest i got was 28 hours 57 minutes, that is a serious difference in battery life, this is with pretty much the same usage - internet,calls,texts and music,people are always going to have issues with battery life regardless but if they follow some procedures good battery life can be achieved, installing Juice Defender ultimate should be their first step, of course your entitled to your opinion
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Sorry not opinion fact stock rom for me had good battery life increase in battery life with Villain rom Cognition rom and varying kernels gave no noticeable boost to battery life .Thats the principle reason i answered the question with my views .
However that does not stop me from running custom roms , Frankenstein/ further customized . Nor should it stop anyone experimenting with such .
Personal view re battery life is that correct procedure regarding the apps that can be deleted frozen and good battery management will be better than flashing a custom ron just to gain a hoped for better battery life .Thats why many that are running custom roms are totally disappointed as they are approaching the problem from the wrong end to start with in regards battery drain .
But i am sure with two contrasting points of view the OP is now better informed than they where .
jje
Tá mo bhríste trí thine!
I forgot another reason.
Most phone manufacturers including Samsung and HTC, have a 18 mths support life, once the full 18 mths are up, there are no more upgrades or official rom releases from the manufacturer.
As for Telco branded phones, roms updates almost never appears unless there is some major issues with the shipped rom.
Custom ROMs just keeps coming out almost every night. They release fixes faster than manufacturers and you don't feel forsaken like waiting for a rom released by your telco.
Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
bluebeanie said:
Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
captemo said:
I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
bluebeanie said:
Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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captemo said:
My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
bluebeanie said:
Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
bluebeanie said:
Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Very common at about the 10 to 12 month mark. Battery starts to swell. You can get stronger battery for $8 on amazon.
Glad everything is working better, still want to stay clean though.
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Hello everyone, after struggling with the installation of a custom ROM, I've managed to have a decent setup with ArrowOS, I have a problem that I don't know how to fix after trying many battery saver apps.
Basically, it drains 2% of the battery when idle (no data either WiFi or mobile, no GPS, battery saver option enabled); apparently the cause is the launcher: I use Nova, but I have tried the Arrow one and Microsoft and they are even worsening the situation (>3%/h).
With MIUI I've never experienced such a draining, I don't know what to do.
I have tried Greenify but had to remove it because it crashes when accessing the settings (don't ask me why because I've no clues); Naptime but, ironically, it was draining the battery on its own as well (3%/h); now I'm using BatteryGuru but I didn't find anything yet that has a real effect.
Any recommendation/suggestion?
A bit late but you'll never get a custom rom that is "better" than the stock rom. Miui has plenty of features to restrict apps under power saving.
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A bit late but you'll never get a custom rom that is "better" than the stock rom. Miui has plenty of features to restrict apps under power saving.
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Actually, I am running PixelExperience with Greenify and it's better than the MIUI, the draining with Arrow was insane despite Greenify: I mean, during the night it was draining 14/20% of the battery with data turned off and battery saver enabled while with PE it was 3/4% as a standard and 1 or 2% with the battery saver enabled.
I didn't understand the reason though, I have sent the logs to the dev but never had any reply.
I noticed your omitting the fact that running a custom rom means running more code which consumes more power?
Stock roms are as efficient as is gets because that code used is minimal and proprietary to Qualcomm. Ie made under license. Custom roms are open source and contain lots of moot code to get around instruction sets that aren't publicly available.
PixelExperence IS a custom ROM... Unless you think that it is the official ROM of Xiaomi...
What am I omitting?
You misunderstood. Custom roms are slower because they use open code which contains more lines of programming. Stock roms use proprietary code specifically for that chip which is shorter and less cluttered.
Sorry, I don't get your point and why you are accusing me first of omitting information, which I didn't, and second to misunderstand what you wrote, which I didn't again: I have opened this thread to ask for help because I noticed an excessive battery drain even when idle, I wanted to know if someone had the same issue and how they have fixed it, in case. Apparently, I was the only one with this phone who had the problem, so I tried my ways to solve it and the "solution" has been avoiding ArrowOS.
I didn't open this post for lecturing about custom ROMs and the additional code that they execute.
To be messing around with custom roms you need to understand what they are and how they work. Especially the basic differences of stock vs custom and how they'll never be equal.
I don't mean to scald you, lecture you or whatever you want to call it, my point is that all this information around custom roms is well documented yet people expect miracles when it simply isn't possible. All custom roms allow is customisation over stock, nothing more. If you want battery then you sacrifice performance. If you want performance you sacrifice battery. It's how the universe works. That is all the roms allow.
Custom roms use a LOT more code than stock because proprietary drivers for the chips aren't in the public domain. That is what Xiaomi and other OEM's pay fees to Qualcomm for. As developers don't have that kind of money lying around they have to make do with github open source drivers. These are NOT perfect and are basically emulators.
That is why you have unexplained battery drain on custom roms. That is why you void your warranty when you install custom roms..
My impression is that I've asked how to find apples and you are explaining me why bananas are yellow...
I'm sorry, probably my first question wasn't clear enough: I've had excessive battery drain only on ArrowOS and I wanted to know if someone else had the same issue and how to fix it. As simple as that.
The thing you say about more code to run, customization, battery lasting time vs performance are true, but (and this will be my last reply on this thread because I feel stupid having to explain it over and over again) my current setup with Pixel Experience, a custom ROM I've tried, was OK already from the very beginning, it became even better with Greenify rooted, and, once again (I've already said that before), the battery lasts longer now than with MIUI.
I'm sorry if I seem upset, but it looks like I'm getting a lecture (that I don't need, mostly because I don't care) on custom ROMs and "their hidden secrets" when I have simply asked IF there was a solution of a specific problem I have had only with ArrowOS.
Closing note: I've tried Paranoid Android and the battery lasting time was great too, the same as MIUI.
My "simple and silly" deduction, considering that I've had this problem on ArrowOS but not with Paranoid Android nor Pixel Experience, simplifying dramatically, is still that it's an "ArrowOS thing" or my setup for it. I hope this clarify the situation.