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Just received the new Galaxy S4 yesterday. After playing around with it for a day, I must say that I'm quite indifferent about it. I don't consider it a huge upgrade from the LGOG at all... Here's some initial thoughts:
Display - I kept reading all the hype about the 1080p Super AMOLED display on the S4 and had very high expectations. It's OK at best. A pentile-matrix display is still no match for full RGB LCD pixels like on the OG, even at 720p. The S4's autobrightness is also set much too dim, and I find myself having to manually slide the brightness level up and down to fit the surrounding lighting.
Build Quality/Appearance - The LGOG definitely feels like a higher quality handset than the S4 when you compare the two. The button layout and location of the ports are pretty much identical (which are some of the things that kept me from getting the HTC One instead). However, the glass back and diamond pattern of the LG just looks better, plain and simple.
OS Skin - I find that LG's Android skin is much more customizable than Samsung's Touchwiz. Using the LGOG stock out of the box feels like you're using a custom ROM from the XDA forums, there are so many customization options.
Performance - This is where the LGOG really shines. I have yet to find anything that makes the LGOG lag. Every animation and action done on the phone looks like it's running at 60fps. Switching between apps is instantaneous and the user experience is a pleasure. With all the beefed up internals of the S4 (higher processor and GPU clock speeds), I still saw some lagginess when performing certain actions. This was something I was not expecting on the S4, but I am pretty sure it has to do with all the new bells and whistles Samsung tried to cram into the phone (Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, Smart Scroll, etc). Bottom line, the S4 benchmarks might be higher, but in daily use the LGOG is a smoother user experience.
Battery Life - This is the only thing that is still up in the air, as I have only had the S4 for one day. I expect the S4 to be better in this category though since it has a higher capacity battery, and judging from existing reviews.
Hope this post helps anyone that is on the fence between these 2 phones! I'd be happy to answer questions.
It would be awesome if you can do some sort of video comparison. (Don’t have to be really professional one… Just a simple video) If you have some time to kill.
I don't expect the S4 to last longer. Why? There's too much extra crap in there and a bigger screen, hence the bigger battery. Its probably going to be the same, if not worse.
I thought about getting that phone, but after previewing it and the HTC one, I had to stay with my LGOG and my Nexus 4.
I hate my S3 now since I got the Nexus and then LG.
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Jammol said:
I don't expect the S4 to last longer. Why? There's too much extra crap in there and a bigger screen, hence the bigger battery. Its probably going to be the same, if not worse.
I thought about getting that phone, but after previewing it and the HTC one, I had to stay with my LGOG and my Nexus 4.
I hate my S3 now since I got the Nexus and then LG.
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I used to have a Nexus 4 also, and like the OG much better (capacitive buttons, LTE, SD card slot). Especially now that the OG has fully functioning AOSP roms. The only thing I don't like is how HOT the phone gets during heavy use or internet browsing using mobile network data. I'm sure the high temps negatively affect battery life.
It still stands that I am largely unimpressed by the Galaxy S4 when compared to the OG. Even their cameras are comparable in normal outdoor daylight. I have not tested low light yet, but pretty much all phone cameras suck in low light except for a few (Nokia 808, HTC One, Lumia 920).
I got my S4 last weekend and have to say I agree with OP, after couple days of using the S4 couldn't wait to get back to my LGOG with CM10.1. The S4 display was disappointing to me and it was extremely laggy, much more then my S3.
A guy at my local best buy just got one and it just doesn't seem up to par with my LGOG like I thought it would and my display looks better too
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You guys are comparing the s4 with the LGOG!! This phone has been out for a long time now. And not that many roms.. I understand it took awhile to unlock the bootloader. And its crappy LG.. Bad support. I was just gifted this phone but i guess i just have to sale it or convert it into a N4
Are you talking about Quad or Eight Core SIV? I have the Quad one and I still prefer the DNA or the LGOG. Yes it is an LG so rarely gets updates but aside from that LGOG is much better.
Sell the SIV and use your LGOG
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gypsy214 said:
You guys are comparing the s4 with the LGOG!! This phone has been out for a long time now. And not that many roms.. I understand it took awhile to unlock the bootloader. And its crappy LG.. Bad support. I was just gifted this phone but i guess i just have to sale it or convert it into a N4
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Lol misinformed. There are tons of roms and not to mention the option to convert is just plain awesome to have.
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My neighbor just got the s4 and I couldn't help my self. I had to play with it. I think the lgog is the better device IMHO.
Now I just need to play with the HTC one. So far I'm happy with purchasing the lgog n not waiting for the s4
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IPS displays offer awesome viewing angles, colors, saturation, more light viewing, and battery life. That Super AMOLED is an OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode) that gives you truer blacks than any LCD technology could hope to (even plasma isn't up to par). It offers great colors,viewing angles, brightness, saturation, etc and better battery life in a screen tech vs screen tech heads up. LG is great with their phones and has really stepped up since my last ATT Phone, the Shine (man I loved that phone). Their support is there and have stepped it up with updates for all their products across the board. Kind of hard to compare technology of a phone seven to nine months old to a newer phone. I actually lag my LGOG using LG's own keyboard on games like RoB, MWOH, and FFAB. Of course many SGS2 would freeze before I even rooted and ROM'd, my LGOG isn't freezing though it can lag and stutter (not rooted on my new one or anything yet).
LG doesn't give us a removable battery here but that's not a killer to me. The screen also is too easy to break (mine, on a brand new one only two weeks old that was rooyed and freegee'd actually had a crack go across the bottom of my screen and it was never dropped or anything.) My SGS2 was dropped and barely had a chip in it and that was on the side.
The SGS4 is thin and plasticky to me. I don't mind thinness (the LGOG is about the same as my SGS2) but it's about as slippery as my LGOG and costs way more.
The screen on the SGS4 uses a diamond tile matrix overlay on top of the OLED (AMOLED) LED backing. It's not terrible and is actually better than the SGS3 version. However the ppi is greatly enhanced but Samsung really doesn't need that type of overlay.
In all the LGOG feels better and responds better than the SGS4 in my opinion. To me it seems LG did better at optimizing their software for the LGOG than Samsung did with their phone, hence the lag.
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I'm interested in purchasing one, but for $500 and midrange specs it really needs to deliver on the screen for me. How is it? Im not so much concerned with resolution as much as precise color calibration thats not washed out or too warm/cold.
how does it look for you guys?
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I'm interested in purchasing one, but for $500 and midrange specs it really needs to deliver on the screen for me. How is it? Im not so much concerned with resolution as much as precise color calibration thats not washed out or too warm/cold.
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Well, this is not a midrange tablet, is a high end, don't get confused because is using the Snapdragon S4 Pro instead of the S600, there are not tablets that perform better than this one, also 2GB RAM, 1200p resolution (1920x1200), NFC, IR Port, Bluetooth 4.0, Dual Band WIFI a/b/g/n, microsd card slot upto 64GB. Check this review for more details about performance.
Also the screen is pretty good, has good viewing angles, great brightness, and pictures/videos looks awesome, the touch panel is very sensitive.
I'll see about getting some data when I get mine (should be Monday.) I don't have the fanciest calibration tools but good enough for the basics we're taking about here. I also have a calibrated desktop setup as well as a pile of other tablets and phones to compare to for subjective analysis.
This is not a midrange tablet. This is top of market right now.
I payed 700 for it. Plus another 150 on my country's customs. And it really really worth it.
When you have it on your hands, is just perfect!
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sorry guys, i don't mean to offend but when I say midrange i mean:
- the resolution is still 1200p vs 1600p on the nexus 10
- the s4 chip, as great as it is, is devoured by the exynos 5250 in benchmarks which is in the nexus 10 (http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/ reference)
when you're talking purely features (waterproof, lightest 10" tablet on the market, solid build, ir port, nfc, sd card slot, sim card lot) yes, you're right its top of the line. but as far as hardware specs go, to put it in perspective the next nexus 7 will either have an s4 pro or a 600 with the same resolution and cost roughly $300 less.
why does hardware matter? aren't those just numbers we geek over? well, often times manufacturers will push higher resolution screens on soc's that just aren't up to the task for it.
Like I said, I don't mind paying for the premium as I dont care about the resolution but I'm just concerned about the color accuracy. do the colors look washed out? is it like the nexus 7 and the nexus 10 which both have ips and (i forget samsung's proprietary panel used for the n10, which is supposively better then IPS), but in the end doesnt really matter because both screens are so horribly calibrated that its wasted?
the thing I'm actually pretty stoked about with this tablet running the S4 is that franco and paranoid android were able to create a nexus 4 color calibration kernel which works miracles for that screen. Coincidentally, thats the same chip used on the Z. I'm not sure how much support this tablet will have, but if Franco takes interest, the Xperia Z's screen will look spectacular after a color tweak...
I really hope the whites on mine aren't too warm. I would hate to turn this thing on and see it with that layer of pee-yellow on top that my 1st gen iPad and Galaxy Nexus suffered from.
As you said n10 screen got its own issues. There is question if there is need for such ppi in large devices we don't tend to hold close to face. And i wonder if future devices will chase after resolution knowing the price (atm there are only 3 android 10" tablets with HD+ screens. Color wise its very nice, warmer but not oversaturated like Samsung. However to know how it does compared to others we need to wait for RGB replication test.
In terms of speed XTZ is ahead of N10 in cpu (except single thread apps) raw power. N10 does better in browser test due to google optimalisation (in chrome or 4.2 i don't know). Mali is stronger raw what off-screen tests show. However on-screen n10 extreeme resolution works against it puting it behind http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tablet_z-review-931p5.php .
So atm its high end, it wont be when tegra4 an s800 hit market.
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sorry guys, i don't mean to offend but when I say midrange i mean:
- the resolution is still 1200p vs 1600p on the nexus 10
- the s4 chip, as great as it is, is devoured by the exynos 5250 in benchmarks which is in the nexus 10 (http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/ reference)
when you're talking purely features (waterproof, lightest 10" tablet on the market, solid build, ir port, nfc, sd card slot, sim card lot) yes, you're right its top of the line. but as far as hardware specs go, to put it in perspective the next nexus 7 will either have an s4 pro or a 600 with the same resolution and cost roughly $300 less.
why does hardware matter? aren't those just numbers we geek over? well, often times manufacturers will push higher resolution screens on soc's that just aren't up to the task for it.
Like I said, I don't mind paying for the premium as I dont care about the resolution but I'm just concerned about the color accuracy. do the colors look washed out? is it like the nexus 7 and the nexus 10 which both have ips and (i forget samsung's proprietary panel used for the n10, which is supposively better then IPS), but in the end doesnt really matter because both screens are so horribly calibrated that its wasted?
the thing I'm actually pretty stoked about with this tablet running the S4 is that franco and paranoid android were able to create a nexus 4 color calibration kernel which works miracles for that screen. Coincidentally, thats the same chip used on the Z. I'm not sure how much support this tablet will have, but if Franco takes interest, the Xperia Z's screen will look spectacular after a color tweak...
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A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
The front of the Xperia Tablet Z is dominated by a 10.1-inch 1920x1200 LED-backlit LCD “Bravia Reality Display.” The Bravia-branded stuff is a post-processing engine for video and images, but the difference is extremely subtle. That’s not the important aspect of this panel anyway – more relevant is how it looks. In a word: good.
If I hold the Tablet Z uncomfortably close to my face, I can definitely see the pixels, but that doesn’t matter – you’ll never use a tablet like that. At a normal viewing distance – say 18-inches – the screen looks crisp and clear. Text is extremely readable and the pixels melt into lovely, fluid images. Because this is a gapless display, the viewing angles are much better than its smartphone counterpart.
The black levels are good on this device – better than the Nexus 7, for example. Below roughly 50% brightness, the blacks stay inky, but past that it starts getting a bit gray. It’s a far cry from AMOLED blacks, but it is above average when compared to other LCD panels (at least in my estimation).
We fetishize pixel density maybe a little too much. Having a higher resolution is great, but not at the expense of performance. This screen gets the job done, and does it well. You don’t need to stress about the raw resolution numbers being lower on the Tablet Z than the Nexus 10.
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4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
I saw one on display in a shop. The screen is very impressive, best android tablet screen I've seen so far. Not seen the Nexus 10 screen, but I've read enough about it's light bleed issues.
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I saw one on display in a shop. The screen is very impressive, best android tablet screen I've seen so far. Not seen the Nexus 10 screen, but I've read enough about it's light bleed issues.
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I'd say the screen is quite similar to the nexus 7. Its not as good as the TF700 but its perfectly satisfactory.
pandaball said:
A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
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Thanks for this, you bring up some excellent points. I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach to see if Franco or Faux will take any interest in this tablet and develop a kernel for it. Unfortunately, for that to happen I think the community is going to have to pool together some cash, like they did for the Oppo Find5...
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A few things:
1. The S4 chip in the XTZ is actually more powerful than the Exynos 5250 Dual in the Nexus 10. The S4 in the link you used is a dual core MSM8960. The S4 chip in the XTZ is a quad core APQ8064. Coupled with the higher res of the Nexus 10, the performance of the Nexus 10 would be behind the XTZ.
2. This is a 10" tablet. Comparing it to the much faster paced 7" tablet market wouldn't make much sense, furthermore normally people get 10" tablets for different reasons than getting 7" tablets. While this is of course debatable, it would be more accurate to compare to up-and-coming 10" tablets like the new Tegra 4 tablets, which aren't slated to be released until Q3 2013 at least.
3. Screen-wise, I can't really comment since I don't have the XTZ yet (getting one on Thursday once it is released in my country). According to the reviews I read though, the colours are nice and sharp, and the screen has quite good viewing angles due to the gapless technology used in the screen. Quoted from androidpolice (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/31/sony-xperia-tablet-z-review-a-surprisingly-good-tablet/):
4. It is possible Sony may include the white balance setting in Settings just like the Xperia Z. Other devs may of course implement this feature as well.
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1. I had believed in benchmarks before I used the N10 (and some chance with N7 also), Antutu and especially Quadrant are garbage. However, I still believe in the traditional benchmarks like Geekbench, Sunspider or BrowserMark (I don't use chrome, intead Ocean Browser and Dolphin which is not Google optimization and the browser benchmarks are superior). My friend bought the Tablet Z and it is somehow laggier than N10 and N7. I know we can blame the UI for it, but even it lauching apps, N7 and N10 are blazing fast.
In the real world performance, N10 (throttling fixed) > Tablet Z
3. Yes it's nice and sharp indeed, much better than XZ smartphone. The viewing angle is very good but still slightly worse than iPad 4 or N10. Texts are crisp, not as sharp as iPad 4 and N10 when comparing besides but it's satisfying when used stand alone.
Some extra opinions:
- In my country, 16GB 3G Tablet Z costs about $950 (with some stuff like external speakers and headphones which equivalent to ~$150), while 16GB N10 (shipped from other countries) costs $460
- The audio from speaker on Xperia Z is bad for a tablet, considering Youtube, movies are used frequently on tablets. The two front facing stereo speakers of N10 are not as good and Note 10.1 but still very inspiring.
- The lightweight is extremely lovable on Tablet Z. I felt a little bit hard when coming black to my not very heavy N10.
The screen is great. I was a little bit worried about it not being as high ppi as iPad/etc. I ordered it without seeing it.
I am completely happy with the screen. Colors, viewing angles are all very good. I even turned off the mobile Bravia engine.
If you are worried about the ppi/color anything, don't be. Screen is great.
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1. I had believed in benchmarks before I used the N10 (and some chance with N7 also), Antutu and especially Quadrant are garbage. However, I still believe in the traditional benchmarks like Geekbench, Sunspider or BrowserMark (I don't use chrome, intead Ocean Browser and Dolphin which is not Google optimization and the browser benchmarks are superior). My friend bought the Tablet Z and it is somehow laggier than N10 and N7. I know we can blame the UI for it, but even it lauching apps, N7 and N10 are blazing fast.
In the real world performance, N10 (throttling fixed) > Tablet Z
3. Yes it's nice and sharp indeed, much better than XZ smartphone. The viewing angle is very good but still slightly worse than iPad 4 or N10. Texts are crisp, not as sharp as iPad 4 and N10 when comparing besides but it's satisfying when used stand alone.
Some extra opinions:
- In my country, 16GB 3G Tablet Z costs about $950 (with some stuff like external speakers and headphones which equivalent to ~$150), while 16GB N10 (shipped from other countries) costs $460
- The audio from speaker on Xperia Z is bad for a tablet, considering Youtube, movies are used frequently on tablets. The two front facing stereo speakers of N10 are not as good and Note 10.1 but still very inspiring.
- The lightweight is extremely lovable on Tablet Z. I felt a little bit hard when coming black to my not very heavy N10.
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For me, I don't really look at benchmarks. They're after all synthetic. Even browser benchmarks are affected far more by the Javascript engine behind it than the hardware. Chrome runs terribly in Sunspider and the like, while the stock browser with the Nexus 10 runs very fast, benchmark-wise. However I would much rather use Chrome than the stock browser app any day because of its usability
As for UI, I'm going to take the Tablet Z for a spin before I get it, see how fluid (or not) it is. I'm most probably getting it unless there are showstopper bugs - Nexus 10 is not available in my country, and the Exynos 5 Dual is simply not powerful enough to power the screen imo.
I'll post a review of it if (once) I get it. Going to touch on some of the concerns I see here I'll probably draw some comparisons to the other tablets I've used as well (Asus TF201, Nexus 7, Xperia Tablet S). Granted, they're previous gen but they provide a point of comparison
ABT4 said:
The screen is great. I was a little bit worried about it not being as high ppi as iPad/etc. I ordered it without seeing it.
I am completely happy with the screen. Colors, viewing angles are all very good. I even turned off the mobile Bravia engine.
If you are worried about the ppi/color anything, don't be. Screen is great.
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I did the same thing and I'm a little worried. June 6th release, this comment is making me more at ease though.
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For me, I don't really look at benchmarks. They're after all synthetic. Even browser benchmarks are affected far more by the Javascript engine behind it than the hardware. Chrome runs terribly in Sunspider and the like, while the stock browser with the Nexus 10 runs very fast, benchmark-wise. However I would much rather use Chrome than the stock browser app any day because of its usability
As for UI, I'm going to take the Tablet Z for a spin before I get it, see how fluid (or not) it is. I'm most probably getting it unless there are showstopper bugs - Nexus 10 is not available in my country, and the Exynos 5 Dual is simply not powerful enough to power the screen imo.
I'll post a review of it if (once) I get it. Going to touch on some of the concerns I see here I'll probably draw some comparisons to the other tablets I've used as well (Asus TF201, Nexus 7, Xperia Tablet S). Granted, they're previous gen but they provide a point of comparison
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I'm in the same boat. Nexus 10 16GB costs more than the latest 16GB iPad. After being blown away by everything about the tablet and how much better it is, imo, than the Nexus 10, it was a no brainer since it's the same price as the 16GB iPad. Plus I picked up a 64GB SD card and the total cost is still lower than a 32GB iPad... and I get a 80GB tablet instead. Can not wait for this to arrive.
s1lenz said:
Thanks for this, you bring up some excellent points. I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach to see if Franco or Faux will take any interest in this tablet and develop a kernel for it. Unfortunately, for that to happen I think the community is going to have to pool together some cash, like they did for the Oppo Find5...
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I'm hoping the same. Franco's gamma and color tool did wonders for what I felt was a very washed out screen on the n4.
I think the screen on the xtz is pretty good but a little too warm. I'd pay good money for a screen calibration tool.
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I'd pay good money for a screen calibration tool.
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This, so much.
violet grays
I've seen 3 Tablet Z in a shop in Moscow, and the screen was the only issue which stopped me from buying one. The whites where slightly yellowish which I could get used to, but the grays were of purple tint!
I even made a side-by-side screen comparison between Sony Experia Tablet Z, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and iPad 4. I opened the same web page on every device and compared the colors as well as the text quality.
Samsung has a cooler white point, which means the whites were slightly bluish, the grays were also a little bit cool but ok. The text quality has been foreseeably lower than on other devices since Note 10.1 has lower resolution.
iPad is the best in terms of readability and color accuracy - white is quite neutral, gray is gray. The text is rendered very clean.
Sony Experia Tablet Z's white was noticeably more of yellow tint and the shades of gray were all slightly violet. In general, it looked like washed-out old picture. The text was crisp but I'd say has been not so comfortable for my eyes as on the iPad.
Moreover, one of 3 Sonys had more of violet hue than the other two! The salesperson whom I showed this difference told me it was a preproduction item just for demonstration, and the other two were for sale. Which also shows that the tablet really has this issue.
That was a big disappointment for me which prevented me from byuying the Tablet Z. I wish I know if there is a way to calibrate the tablet's screen.
the screen is stunning anyone who says other wise is being very petty. colours great sharp and very vibrant
ash6783 said:
the screen is stunning anyone who says other wise is being very petty. colours great sharp and very vibrant
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Colours are great, sharp and very vibrant indeed.
But still there are problems I described above.
After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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Nope. It's like when I got the original Note, anything smaller didn't interest me as it felt like a downgrade. Having the Mega for almost a month, the size is normal to me now and I don't feel it lacks in performance even at mid range specs.
My next phone should fulfill the following criteria:
* Maximum possible screen size for a device that still fits my pocket
* Removable battery with higher capacity
* Better camera lens with optical stabilisation / xenon flash
* Higher resolution screen (maybe 6.5 but same body size as the Mega)
* Quad/Octa core CPU with high end graphics + 3Gb RAM or more
* Spen and waterproof not necessary
The only phone I'm waiting for now is the Galaxy Mega 2.
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The only phone I'm waiting for now is the Galaxy Mega 2.
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Yes, same here,I love this phone
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inurb said:
After using the mega for a couple of weeks the size is awesome. I'd be disappointed if Samsung doesn't at the very least make a 6.3" Note 3.
Would you consider a Note 3 if it had a smaller screen size than 6.3" ?
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Every phone should be this size. I cannot imagine anything smaller. If only you could see the reactions i get. iPhone owners stand behind me peeking at my gorgeous screen and the awesomeness interface. I have had people willing to jump to Android cause of this device.
Yes, Apple heeds to hurry with their 5.7" phone! 4" just doesn't cut it any more.
Yes, I'll be disappointed. It won't be 6.3 unfortunately, unless they go down the route of releasing multiple screen size options.
They will probably watch to see how well the Xperia Z Ultra sells.
Yes just bought mega instead of experia ultra
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I totally agree with you on that in fact this phone is so awesome people really notice the big bright display. I can tell you the display so beautiful so stunning so accurate and color reproduction that it's unbeatable at this size. The biggest balls of them about the phone as it has been able to run everything that I've thrown at it it just simply doesn't lag not a single lag in any of the high end games or applications simply remarkable
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Doesn't worry me the least as I'm definitely going for the z ultra. A real high end phone.
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Just bought th8s mega with no regret
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I own this now its awesome!
I have the Samsung Galaxy make a 6.3 and it's such an awesome phone it has got a gorgeous high definition 6.3 in screen the best part about this is that it's the biggest phone which can be easily pocketed. the size is just perfect its just big enough to be pocketed and big enough to compete with any tablet at the same time there's absolutely no compromise on screen quality as well as the screen size playing games on this huge devise is the treat watching movies is simply awesome reading ebooks is so simple and so beautiful and convenient you don't have to zoom on web pages you can view the full screen web page the doubt zooming in you can read smallest of the small text very easily and as far as gaming goes this phone is a real monster when it comes to processing power the Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 CPU clogged at 1.7 gigahertz gives the necessary power to smoothly run all high definition games the games open up really quick and have absolutely zero lag even on the most and resource intensive games so far I have not seen a single leg in any of the high and high definition gamesthis phone clearly is the best size and price combination you don't have to carry your tablet you don't have to carry your computer at the same time you don't have to struggle with the smalls clean you don't have to the zoo every corner of your phone to read text it's so convenient and soul majestic
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....I have the Samsung Galaxy make a 6.3 and it's such an awesome phone it has got a gorgeous high definition 6.3 in screen the best part about this is that it's the biggest phone which can be easily pocketed. the size is just perfect its just big enough to be pocketed and big enough to compete with any tablet at the same time there's absolutely no compromise on screen quality as well as the screen size playing games on this huge devise is the treat watching movies is simply awesome reading ebooks is so simple and so beautiful and convenient you don't have to zoom on web pages you can view the full screen web page the doubt zooming in you can read smallest of the small text very easily and as far as gaming goes this phone is a real monster when it comes to processing power the Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 CPU clogged at 1.7 gigahertz gives the necessary power to smoothly run all high definition games the games open up really quick and have absolutely zero lag even on the most and resource intensive games so far I have not seen a single leg in any of the high and high definition gamesthis phone clearly is the best size and price combination you don't have to carry your tablet you don't have to carry your computer at the same time you don't have to struggle with the smalls clean you don't have to the zoo every corner of your phone to read text it's so convenient and soul majestic[/QUOTE]
you lost me at the zoo.. and sorry to hear your CPU is clogged.
I am not looking forward Note3 but Mega2. I would like an even bigger screen, from 7" to 7.3" FHD with slim bezel. My pocket still have room for something bigger. The size limit is that I can hold it firmly with one hand and I can do swipe up/down and from the side with my thumb. Dual core is enough for me. I do not do gaming. I mostly surf web. Weight increase by no more than 50g. Yes I would like a one-hand held tablet with phone function on the go. Also look forward to 8 hours on screen time (average 50% of max. brightness), and a replacable battery.
I'm just disappointed at the specs the only thing making it almost worth while is the 13mp camera...
But WTF @ Just a bigger s4 and another quad-core processor, unless ya wanna scarifice LTE for an octa-core.
dchsub said:
I am not looking forward Note3 but Mega2. I would like an even bigger screen, from 7" to 7.3" FHD with slim bezel. My pocket still have room for something bigger. The size limit is that I can hold it firmly with one hand and I can do swipe up/down and from the side with my thumb. Dual core is enough for me. I do not do gaming. I mostly surf web. Weight increase by no more than 50g. Yes I would like a one-hand held tablet with phone function on the go. Also look forward to 8 hours on screen time (average 50% of max. brightness), and a replacable battery.
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Look to the International version of the Tab 3 ..7 inch....slim bezels and phone function..
I just dont like the NO LED flash/flashlight...
just have to wait....
good luck
How much do the phone enabled 7" Tab 3's run? The Mega might be a better bet, what with importing and such.
jimmbomb said:
Look to the International version of the Tab 3 ..7 inch....slim bezels and phone function..
I just dont like the NO LED flash/flashlight...
just have to wait....
good luck
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I think, without a Full HD screen, Tab3 7" size and form style would not be worthwhile when compared to Mega 6.3.
When I finished watching the launch I was amazed - nothing less. LG is really good at the marketing.
I looked at my 6 month old G2 and just wanted to throw my trusty companion away for that new beauty - then it struck me that the difference is mostly on the software and not on the hardware.
What the G3 has to offer that your G2 doesn't have.
- A 5.5 inch QHD screen which is apparantly really good. I won't comment on whether it's better or not since there is nobody who actually has compared them - yet. This is ofcourse subject to change and it might turn out that a QHD is indeed needed and good for a smartphone.
- Laser Autofocus - There's no way our G2 will focus on an object in less than 300 miliseconds. That's a fact. This thing is really cool!
- The design is awesome - like really awesome albeit a bit too big for my small hands. I would most likely use a cover on it anyway because I care a lot about my phone.
What the G3 has that your G2 can have in the future with a G3 ROM:
All those cool and smart changes to the software like
- Flat UI that looks great and Smart notifications
- The new LG Keyboard which has an increased accuracy and helps you correct typos easier
- Increased security features
- Focus and shoot with just one touch
Please note that the battery in the G3 is a 3000 mAh battery, just like the one in our G2 (although the G3 battery is removable). Yes it has been optimised and so on but the Snapdragon 801 is pushing 1.8x as many pixels as a full HD screen and that naturally means an increased power consumption. The G3 is said to have 3 GB RAM and a microSD slot.
Things the G2 has that the G3 won't have :
A more compact form factor - 5.5 inches will still be 5.5 inches no matter how sleek the body is.
Great developers like @dorimanx @Cloudyfa @xdabbeb (to name a few) and many many many many others who do a great job supporting our G2.
And finally:
Reasons not to toss out your G2 just yet:
The Snapdragon 801 is only a minor improvement over the Snapdragon 800 but it has a much bigger load to carry (the screen).
Same battery capacity but a 1080p screen instead of a 1440p one.
More compact
Developer support
It has been your trusty companion for so many months
The camera on the G3 is still only a 13MP shooter.
Nobody has actually tried the G3 to see how good it is.
I'm loving my G2.
me to love g2
but expecting soon to port lg g3 rom
JEEVADON92 said:
me to love g2
but expecting soon to port lg g3 rom
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same with me,
the only thing I love about G3 is the laser autofocus.
the rest still can be compensate with current my LG G2
DjKr1z said:
same with me,
the only thing I love about G3 is the laser autofocus.
the rest still can be compensate with current my LG G2
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yes laser cam made g2 to heads down
I'm extremely happy with the G2 still. 5.5" is too big. The 5.2" pushes my comfort zone already for one hand use. It teeters on the balls of my fingertips already. The higher res screen is a mute point. the G2 already has an extremely high DPI. Outside of a numbers game, the extra DPI is wasted. It is just a waste of system resources on such small screens.
I didn't watch the launch but the laser cam sounds cool but I can live without. The screen and software are the only thing that is really different.
If the laser cam can detect distance, it would be cool if there was a app that would spit out the distance from objects. I seen a guy measure my basement with that and it was awesome.
If only it had SD805, also the era of 64 bit processor is upon us, so very soon 801 and 805 would be out, i would rather wait out G4 and install a custom G3 rom as soon it is available.
I came to this phone via a dead s3, and a replacement HTC One x. I absolutely love this thing. I even love the button placement in the back. Can't see myself upgrading anytime soon.
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Yeah I'm just waiting for 64 bit processors at this point. Will. Upgrade to the G4 for sure
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Next stop for me is the G4.
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Next stop for me is the G4.
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+1
There were a few things I was hoping for in the G3 :
- Replaceable Battery
- SD Slot
- Better Camera
- Waterproof like 1 meter or so
- Slim bezels (which is something G2 gave me and I will never give up.)
- Battery Life (which is something G2 gave me and I will never give up.)
They gave me 5 out of 6 of these, while the 4th is the most important to me. If the 4th was also a reality, i'd be filling up my pre-order now.
But without it, I don't see any reason to jump now. I'll wait for prices to go down, and wait for Software to update after all bugs have been ironed out, and I'll wait to see if other phones maybe compete (I doubt that though)...
I agree with you guys, purchasing another 32-bit model with the new 64-bits coming out soon is generally a bad idea. In fact, I was debating whether I really wanted my G2 or not since 64-bit processors were coming out soonish. Also another thing I would like is some sort of active cooling to counter thermal throttling during heavy loads.
I haven't even rooted my G2, let alone install a custom rom and I know I can transform my G2 to a G3 without the camera and screen in the matter of hours
LG says they "listen to their customers". Apparantly they don't listen well enough. I'm pretty sure the only reason why they made a 5.5 inch panel was because they had a hard time fitting all those pixels in a smaller screen.
I'm waiting for 64-bit processors and hopefully some sort of cooling to counter thermal throttling.
Give me that sexy UI and I'm happy with my G2
I haven't seen the launch stream, but had read some of the coverage by press.
1. I love the new design, both on the software and hardware side. They have really raised the bar with that.
2. We still will have to wait for the reviews about laser focus. It can be either a gimmick or true breakthrough for smartphone photography. Think how it could easily improve focus in low light situation where infrared rays would easily acquire object.
3. Waiting for the port of G3 roms. I'm really looking forward for new stuff like Content Lock (oh boy, how many times I was THIS CLOSE to revealing my gf's "for my eyes only" pics)
Hope our awesome devs will make it happen in no time!)
Also graphite anode is amazing new feature in batt technology. Especially as I've studied electrochemistry and I'm sure it will make great results for battery life. GO LG LABS
I love my G2 but ever since I have had it I can't seem to get the camera to work correctly unless I am outside and it is completely sunny. The camera in the dark is absolutely useless for me even with the flash on it takes 6-7 seconds to snap. Do I have some settings incorrect? I love everything else about the phone especially the button placement.
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I love my G2 but ever since I have had it I can't seem to get the camera to work correctly unless I am outside and it is completely sunny. The camera in the dark is absolutely useless for me even with the flash on it takes 6-7 seconds to snap. Do I have some settings incorrect? I love everything else about the phone especially the button placement.
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Did you try resetting the camera to default
Camera sensor is the same on the g3 as the g2
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It seems like they actually were looking into some of the criticism that the G2 received, and made their best efforts to try and make things even better. The design looks less generic, the interface (which I just hope they backport to the G2) looks way better than before, and I was shocked they even bothered to make the battery removable (given that, much like physical keyboards, the removable battery is an endangered species).
Given I own a G2, some of the specs on the G3 seem like overkill; they need to focus less on the specifications arms race and more on genuine innovation.
The camera is the same identical Sony imx135, only differs in laser to focus. At Max you will need a bit of more time to focus, but the output is the same if you know how to shot a photo
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I'm in love with case and new apps in there. Sadly tho
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Well it's not as feel friendly as the Ultra but that's it.
R e a l l y like so far.
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Well it's not as feel friendly as the Ultra but that's it.
R e a l l y like so far.
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it is rather heavy and feels bigger? heard camera was not living up to its name but on plus side it has a flash and the screen resolution is much higher, bigger battery, improved processor
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it is rather heavy and feels bigger? heard camera was not living up to its name but on plus side it has a flash and the screen resolution is much higher, bigger battery, improved processor
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Yes the camera is very much a downgrade, but I have a hunch that it is software related and not hardware. They just need to fix their camera app.
I did my replacement with Galaxy S7 Edge and i dont regret replacing ZU
I also upgraded my Z Ultra to the Phab 2 Pro. Almost identical in size. The new phone fits in my CP-12 Power Cover (face down only because of the curve back.) It does not fit in the Sony Kruesel case, strange enough. The screen is very nice. To me, the camera in the Phab 2 Pro is leaps and bounds better than the XZU. The overall unit is not as user-friendly as the Sony, but it is every bit as snappy (if not moreso.)
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I also upgraded my Z Ultra to the Phab 2 Pro. Almost identical in size. The new phone fits in my CP-12 Power Cover (face down only because of the curve back.) It does not fit in the Sony Kruesel case, strange enough. The screen is very nice. To me, the camera in the Phab 2 Pro is leaps and bounds better than the XZU. The overall unit is not as user-friendly as the Sony, but it is every bit as snappy (if not moreso.)
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Am in reverse here (sort of) went back to the Ultra Z after owning it in the first 3 months of 2014...lol..great device (existenz rom v7 minimal - double tap to wake, great call clarity, all important lte bands-camera is not great but works well fairly lit indoors, outdoors) (did consider the phab2 pro though; have the Lenovo S850LC 8 inch tabelt phone that can make phone calls get all imp US lTE bands but horrible interface and it has hardly got any updates-still on KK as the 5.1 is atrocious-that device actually has a flash and a decent camera esp considering it is an actual tablet)