Anybody notice that their storage dropped from 32GB to 25Gb after root?
I'm wondering if it's just me. Need help!
What are you basing this on? The storage available shown in Settings, or something else?
Did you flash a different ROM? Maybe its just a matter of how the "available" space is being reported by the particular ROM.
I highly doubt root "changed" anything with your storage. People often freak out about one thing or another being different after root. But all root is, is a change in permissions.
A big chunk of storage is always reserved for the ROM and other functions (I think video memory?). You never have the full 32 GB as "user accessible" storage. Could it be you just didn't notice this before?
redpoint73 said:
What are you basing this on? The storage available shown in Settings, or something else?
Did you flash a different ROM? Maybe its just a matter of how the "available" space is being reported by the particular ROM.
I highly doubt root "changed" anything with your storage. People often freak out about one thing or another being different after root. But all root is, is a change in permissions.
A big chunk of storage is always reserved for the ROM and other functions (I think video memory?). You never have the full 32 GB as "user accessible" storage. Could it be you just didn't notice this before?
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I'm checking the following:
ES File Explorer Shows 839.36MB / 24.84 GB
Windows Explorer (PC) shows 24.0 Free of 24.8 GB
I checked storage and saw this (See attached)
I'm trying to figure out a way to access that "Others" with almost 7GB as it seems to big for a brand new install.
It's weird that all other explorer sees 24Gb
I guess I just wanted to confirm if that's expected and normal. As I did not check those prior rooting.
gotnoypi said:
I'm checking the following:
ES File Explorer Shows 839.36MB / 24.84 GB
Windows Explorer (PC) shows 24.0 Free of 24.8 GB
I checked storage and saw this (See attached)
I'm trying to figure out a way to access that "Others" with almost 7GB as it seems to big for a brand new install.
It's weird that all other explorer sees 24Gb
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So what did they show before root?
ES shows 24.84 GB for me as well. But I have no idea what this is reported as before root (if it was even different), as I was only stock for a day, lol.
Its normal that you can't access a big portion of the storage. As I stated, its reserved for the OS. On my old One X, which is only 16 GB, almost 5 GB is reserved for the OS.
I'm guessing the explorers are only showing you the size of the user accessible partition.
redpoint73 said:
So what did they show before root?
ES shows 24.84 GB for me as well. But I have no idea what this is reported as before root (if it was even different), as I was only stock for a day, lol.
Its normal that you can't access a big portion of the storage. As I stated, its reserved for the OS. On my old One X, which is only 16 GB, almost 5 GB is reserved for the OS.
I'm guessing the explorers are only showing you the size of the user accessible partition.
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Great Thanks! I guess I just was quick to panic as i thought I partitioned my storage accidentally.
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I have 25Gb of available space but less than 2Gb for apps? I'd like to use all internal storage for apps and the external card for media. Any idea how I set that up?
I have a Galaxy S2 Epic (SPH-D710) stock ROM, rooted with the zermax kernel and fited with a Sandisk 16Gb class 4 micro sd card.
Problem discovered while installing Navfree. Got the error message "not enough space". So I can't install and move.
Settings>Applications>Maganage applications>All shows
112Mb used of 1.9Gb available.
Settings>Storage>USB storage shows
Total space is 11.5Gb and Available space 11.5Gb
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
syco123 said:
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
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That's perfectly normal dude.. The system uses a chunk of the built-in 16GB for the ROM's use (/system, /data, /cache plus a few other partitions), and the rest is assigned to /sdcard, hence the 11.5GB (I know, that's kind of like false advertisement but what you wanna do ? Sue Samsung ?)
And for the external SD, that's also normal. I'm surprised you didn't notice this detail on the capacity of your harddrive before : end-users tend to think in "base2" (whereas 1KB=1024 bytes, 1MB=1024KB, 1GB=1024MB, and so on), while media manufacturers count in "base10" (i.e. 1KB=1000bytes, 1MB=1000KB, etc). It's a cheap way to reach the symbolic "GB", "TB", "PB" (etc) landmarks more quickly (at least, quicker than the competition).
Do the maths, you'll see that over 16GB that makes a huge chunk of "magically" disappeared storage, but it never was there to begin with.. Also false advertising there, kind of.. But we're all in the same boat here. :S
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That's perfectly normal dude..
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Yea, I understand that, that why I put "(aka 16Gb") as I'm referring to a 16Gb card but listing 14.83Gb available. It was to not cause confusion, guess I failed there!
The problem I'm having is, I need around 4Gb (apparently) to install Navfree. I only have 2Gb available to apps even though I have 25Gb of storage.
People must be installing Navfree, so I must be doing something wrong.
16GB is 16000000000btye/1024/ 1024/1024 = 14. 9GB.
So it is 16Gb and not 16GB.
No such 4gb large program for android. The program is maybe 10-20mb. And the 4gb is the DATA. You can store the 4gb in your SD card.
Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
I just tried again and it installed with a file size of 15.53Mb. Weird, Oh well, thanks anyway.
yeah i was gonna say : you might find some bloatware on the android market here and there, but by and large it is still pretty much immune to this phenomenon..
A 4GB program is something you might encounter under Windows, but Linux ?
Sorry that my first post is reviving an old-ish thread, but the initial question asked hasn't been answered (and a search of the forum didn't help me)..
Is it possible to resize the partitions of the internal storage on my s2, and if so, how?
And whilst on the subject of the internal storage, can someone please clarify if flashing a custom ROM will affect files on the "USB storage" partition, or only the files stored on the "internal" storage partition?
Sorry if these seem like noobish questions, but I am new to this customising malarkey, and want to make sure I don't lose any data unnecessarily, like I did countless times with my iPhone...
nope, flashing a rom (either stock or custom) *should* not alter usb or internal sdcard storage. If it does, that's a surefire sign that the guy who cooked the said rom has no friggin clue whatsoever about what he's messing with and to steer clear from this particular rom...
It must be possible to alter the partitioning scheme to resize the internal storage. At least that's the theory, we're dealing with a flavor of linux here, and everything is doable with linux -and enough effort and dedication.
However, as this partition lies on the same emmc chip as the system, data, cache and kernel/recovery/bootloader partitions, I highly recommend *NOT* to mess with it in any way -not unless you have another smartphone lying around that you could use as backup while your borked SGS2 is shipped back to the samsung service centre, and you're prepared to spend some $$ over the repairs (since rooting is absolutely necessary for this kind of manipulation, your warranty would theoretically be null&void in the process)...
i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
new-to-it said:
i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
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Out of 16 gigs built in storage, 13 is set aside as regular sdcard storage while 2 gigs is used for "internal data" and 1 gig is not used at all. If you use the NVflash from the teamdrh ICS rom you can re-format it to have 4 gigs internal and 12 for storage.
The easy thing you can do since your are still on honeycomb is to install app2sd and move some of your data files to the "storage part" (13gigs) which will free that space up in your "internal data" (2gigs) or you can go through and uninstall any apps you no longer use.
i have 4 apps right now, the rest are the google stuff apps crap, which i assume cant go anywhere in fear of them not knowing when i fart..
but
without using the app2sd-(i cant fit it right now)-i can go to settings and move apps, but- where it sez move to- it sez move to usb then after moved it sez move to tablet.
redeyedjedi said:
Out of 16 gigs built in storage, 13 is set aside as regular sdcard storage while 2 gigs is used for "internal data" and 1 gig is not used at all.
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No, no space is wasted like this--certainly not 1G. Use the busybox df instead of the system df. This has confused other users before.
If you use the NVflash from the teamdrh ICS rom you can re-format it to have 4 gigs internal and 12 for storage.
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This is incorrect. Nvflash works on the NAND chip, not on SD cards. To repartition SD cards, use CWM, or this easy method if you want to keep existing data.
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new-to-it said:
i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
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This has been reported on GtabComb-b3.3 by some other users, but, I was never able to get to the bottom of the problem. Most users will just repartition their SD cards and make the problem away before I can get to troubleshooting the problem.
Get me a logcat, dmesg and other outputs after you've tried to install an app from Market. See this post for the commands to run.
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new-to-it said:
i can go to settings and move apps, but- where it sez move to- it sez move to usb then after moved it sez move to tablet.
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That is the correct behaviour. Move to USB moves apps to /sdcard. Move to tablet moves the apps back into /data.
I meant to say you could use CWM to make 4 gigs. Where did that 1gig go?
redeyedjedi said:
I meant to say you could use CWM to make 4 gigs. Where did that 1gig go?
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The missing 1 gig is the symlink I am working on that is set aside for data/cache and data/dalvic cache. Since the transition to make ROMs larger and our nand being only 512m that was put within either the ROM, CWM, or the boot.img so that everything will run without chopping away at the System to make it lighter, the way I do. If you Flash the nand with the older 1.2 NVflash and the older 1.2 ROMS that 1 gig will return and cache will return to its proper placement within the set stock partitions.
See, what you guys have latched on to is the total size of the /sdcard partition; but, that, is a red herring:
Partition sizes are fixed by CWM when you repartition the SD card--it is not changed in any other way. And, since the size of the internal SD card is fixed, and since all CWMs versions partition the SD card the same way each time, the total sizes of the both partitions cannot change drastically. Therefore, barring filesystem corruption--unlikely here because the only symptom is an inability to install new apps, the 13 GB value being reported has got to be an artifact of rounding, as I mentioned above. Plus, that 1GB is supposedly part of /sdcard, so no space is going to be deducted from /data (where apps usually live) anyway.
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Where did that 1gig go?
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Nowhere. This is an artifact of the rounding out process. See above.
As usual, I just can't understand what Nobe's trying to say. Going for the most straight-forward reading, however:
nobe1976 said:
The missing 1 gig is the symlink
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Nope. The maximum size of a symbolic link on all the standard filesystems seen on the gtablet is only 255 bytes--not 1G.
I am working on that is set aside for data/cache and data/dalvic cache. Since the transition to make ROMs larger and our nand being only 512m that was put within either the ROM, CWM, or the boot.img so that everything will run without chopping away at the System to make it lighter, the way I do.
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Wrong ROM, wrong partition, and, wrong bootloader.
First of all, the user's clearly stated that he has GtabComb-3.3 and a 1.1 bootloader--not any of the ICS/JB ROMs which require a different nvflash package. Second, even if the entire contents of /cache were in /data, it still wouldn't cause any reduction in the size of the /sdcard partition, which is entirely separate. See description above.
If you Flash the nand with the older 1.2 NVflash and the older 1.2 ROMS that 1 gig will return and cache will return to its proper placement within the set stock partitions.
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Changing the bootloader won't fix the user's problems--except as a side-effect of re-installing the ROM from scratch.
We'll have to wait until the user comes back with the various outputs and do some more tests to really find out the cause of the user's real problem: Why can't he install any apps even with enough space on /data? He also can move apps to and from the SD card just fine, apparently.
I didn't mean for miss information on this OP's problem. The 1 gig issue that redeyedjedi is seeing is in fact within the updated jellybean and ICS ROMs only. I should have made that noted. To my understanding after the busy box command you and I went through later this year is that it does impact the data partition on the updated firmware only. I soon realized that after messing with a certain /etc file that it looks to be a virtual swap placement. Busybox reads now 4 gig of data with a 4096/0 partition set in recovery after replacing that file with he that sets proper cache within /dev partition. The fact that it still shows up on standard df means that the ROM somewhere is still showing something there if I am correct or could be a ghost or something. Correct me if I am wrong please.
Sent from My SmOoThA$$ Gtablet.
nobe1976 said:
The 1 gig issue that redeyedjedi is seeing is in fact within the updated jellybean and ICS ROMs only. I should have made that noted.
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No.There is no 1G issue. It is just an artifact of how the partition spaces are displayed in the ROMs, and in the system-supplied df command on all Android versions. It is to avoid this sort of confusion that I ask users to use the busybox df command which displays its values (total space, free space, used space) in 1-K blocks.
To my understanding after the busy box command you and I went through later this year is that it does impact the data partition on the updated firmware only. I soon realized that after messing with a certain /etc file that it looks to be a virtual swap placement. Busybox reads now 4 gig of data with a 4096/0 partition set in recovery after replacing that file with he that sets proper cache within /dev partition. The fact that it still shows up on standard df means that the ROM somewhere is still showing something there if I am correct or could be a ghost or something. Correct me if I am wrong please.
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Gladly--if only I could understand what you were after. Can you make your questions precise, mate?
Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
crazypixel said:
Hi all,
I've just received my HTC desire x, checking the specs there is written
that the internal memory should be 4GB, but I have just 1GB.
the total space shows 1.09 GB (screenshot attached)
on the HTC website there's written
Total storage: 4 GB, available capacity varies*
and then *Available storage is less due to phone software.
Is it possible that the OS takes 3GB? Seems a bit too much for me...
Any idea?
Thanks all in advance
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This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
ayyu3m said:
This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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^ +1.
anyway i cant see why 1gb isnt enough for apps and games. if you have a sd card, it will be more than enough because of the ability to move apps to sd.
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ayyu3m said:
This is correct man. There is no issue or problem. The system takes ~3gb. Cos imagine when you are factory resetting your phone. The original OS file (called ROM) will reside in that memory with a whole lot of other backup stuff which you cant access.
This is why ppl use CUSTOM ROMS, cos we remove bloatware and other things.
What you see in that screenshot is same as mine and as other. Just buy an external card and it will rock
and please go to about > software update > PRESS CHECK NOW even though "Scheduled Check" is ticked cos there are updates and possibly u have one waiting also.
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Thanks man all doubts vanished now,
does it mean that once rooted (I haven't seen any good rom around yet, please advise if you know any)
I can partition the internal memory? Or it's better not to partition anything for a smoother and faster phone?
Thanks again
Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
i think you want this? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
with that app. you will no longer have to worry about low internal storage again. i use that all the time on my previous phone who has low internal memory (400mb below). but with des x i dont need it. 1gb internal memory are a lot!
nlooooo said:
Yes 4GB in these mount points:
dev - 303MB
cache - 251MB
data 1,1GB
internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB
system/942MB
Plus a few more like radio boot and / mount point. It's up around 4GB.
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Is it possible to reformat partitions? Why not to have internal memory (emmc) - 1,1GB and system/942MB merged? I'm not using emmc, cuz I have SDCard for all my stuff, so 1,1 Gb are empty, but I have insufficient space on system.
I'm running Liquid Smoth 3.1, and noticed the internal memory (for apps and such) is separated from the internal SD. Can we increase the internal memory allocation? I don't recall if this was common or not before I installed the ROM.
Still no solution found...
pm2gonzales said:
I'm running Liquid Smoth 3.1, and noticed the internal memory (for apps and such) is separated from the internal SD. Can we increase the internal memory allocation? I don't recall if this was common or not before I installed the ROM.
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This is how old Samsung used as a separated partition(2GB/Remaining space) structure.
I could confirm that newer models only have one partition.
I had researched days of searches and still did NOT find confirmed easy solutions like flashing ZIP files.
(My research -> Link)
I REALLY DO wish someone could guide me a solution to repartition as one total 16GB(Like newer Galaxy)
or expending 2GB system partition to any bigger size.
I still did NOT find the solution and still looking.
The only last method I did not try - Working with ADB command which I need to consider to brick my phone.
But this is my primary phone that I use.
Even worse, KitKat ROM(I am using beanStalk ver 4.4.4001) does not allow to use App2SD function.
I have to manage all of my apps+data+decent space within 2 GB limitation even if I have 11GB available
space as an Internal Storage (NOT External SD).
Hope it helps and let you know you are in same boat with me.
Once again, I wish there is an easy solution who could help us!
Any Update??
HI, has anyone found a solution? ty
[email protected] said:
This is how old Samsung used as a separated partition(2GB/Remaining space) structure.
I could confirm that newer models only have one partition.
I had researched days of searches and still did NOT find confirmed easy solutions like flashing ZIP files.
(My research -> Link)
I REALLY DO wish someone could guide me a solution to repartition as one total 16GB(Like newer Galaxy)
or expending 2GB system partition to any bigger size.
I still did NOT find the solution and still looking.
The only last method I did not try - Working with ADB command which I need to consider to brick my phone.
But this is my primary phone that I use.
Even worse, KitKat ROM(I am using beanStalk ver 4.4.4001) does not allow to use App2SD function.
I have to manage all of my apps+data+decent space within 2 GB limitation even if I have 11GB available
space as an Internal Storage (NOT External SD).
Hope it helps and let you know you are in same boat with me.
Once again, I wish there is an easy solution who could help us!
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Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
AzrulHisyam said:
You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
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Thanks!
This unit has android 4.4.4
Could you post a walkthrough on how to do that so that no apps take space under System Storage?
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
flash- said:
look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
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I found this on another page:
"System Storage" is where the OS and the System Applications are installed. This could also be considered where the User application are installed (based on your question). User installed applications are installed in /data/apps, settings and app data is stored in /data/data, and then application cache data is stored in /cache. These are all part of the "System Storage".
Internal Storage is an area that is used like an sdcard. As far as the Android OS is concerned, it is an sdcard. Some applications may save data to it, but it is mainly used as direct storage for your stuff. Like pictures taken with the camera, music, ringtones, things like that.
You cannot just adjust the size of system memory. Is it technically possible, yes. But doing so could require you to have knowledge of linux tool, rooting, custom roms, recoveries, and even possibly having to compile your own linux kernel and ROM or other information that I am not thinking of at the moment. Which is well beyond the scope of this site.
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So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
crodps said:
I found this on another page:
So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
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yeah that's right ..root can help...but i don't think 12 gb is gone like that just for system !> :cyclops: