Please join me in this great cause for further development of of our beloved BEAST! Everyone knows there's a need for better development for this overlooked and underrated device.
DooMLoRD, as you know, is a senior member and one of THE TOP XPERIA Developers so wouldn't it be a great idea since the Sony Xperia Ultra GPe Edition has been discounted by $200 to get ONE in his hands? Since the price is $449.00 let's all get together to chip in and send him one.
He's halfway there and I'll donate the fastest shipping possible to get it to him if we achieve the remaining $250 or so (there should be taxes added to the total) just so we could have his Kernels, Mods, Fixes or whatever!
Everyone knows how hard it is to develop for a device you don't even have in your hands. But DooMLoRD does this time and again - I know this for a fact. Let's give him what he needs for the good of ALL of us who use these forums.
Won't you join in this effort to help this great well known developer who is also a WONDERFUL GUY - let's get this device in his hands as fast as possible! Take a moment and just read through some of these posts and you'll see he's presenting incredible work without thus device in his hands. How cool of him to do that!
So the goal is $250 in addition to the taxes. Anyone can P.M. me with any thoughts, suggestions, questions, or even complaints for that matter. You can contact DooMLoRD or go to his XDA page to find out how to donate to him.
Update:
LordManhattan your point is well taken as I'm sure you know better than I. But by having the Xperia Z Ultra or the Z Ultra GPe he can still help us all one way or another. I think that's already been proven.
Just sayin'...
Could a Mod please move this to the Sony Xperia Z Ultra Development Forum. I'm sorry I made a boo boo!
Beamed from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
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I agree. I don't have the GPe version, but I've waited for a GPe+Sony compatibility for ages. Why isn't it happening?! The GPe Ultra got released back in December (?) and it's still completely dead.
Sure, the Ultra is a niche device and the Ultra GPe is even more niche, so that's understandable, but we have some great devs around here including some promising kernel devs too, so I guess those two together could solve it? Or? That's the only barrier left around here. Do you guys know what the Galaxy S4 (bootloader) bounty is? It's over $4,000! Do you know how high the ROOT bounty, yes ROOT bounty for the S5 is? Over $10,000! Moto X? $1200.
We are ****ing lucky if I dare say. OP, I understand what you're trying to do and we do have a lot of custom ROMs around here, but people with the Xperia version are pretty happy right now, BUT our last venture is the GPe. If we can get a Sony ROM over to an Xperia phone, then we'll be done. We'll actually be done, while other people on Samsung and what not will be crying.
Point: We're incredible lucky. We'll want Android 4.5/5 in june/july (after I/O). What do we do when the time comes? Wait a couple of weeks. We'll get the GPe version to back us up! All we need is one single dev that knows his **** and completes it.
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We are ****ing lucky if I dare say. OP, I understand what you're trying to do and we do have a lot of custom ROMs around here, but people with the Xperia version are pretty happy right now, BUT our last venture is the GPe. If we can get a Sony ROM over to an Xperia phone, then we'll be done. We'll actually be done, while other people on Samsung and what not will be crying.
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At OP: At the moment we can easily port @DooMLoRD's work but it would be nice for him to support our device
@LordManhattan If the script I have just been working on works for Custom ROMs I dont think it will be too much to get custom Sony ROMs working on the GPe
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At OP: At the moment we can easily port @DooMLoRD's work but it would be nice for him to support our device
@LordManhattan If the script I have just been working on works for Custom ROMs I dont think it will be too much to get custom Sony ROMs working on the GPe
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I, and probably some other people might love you if you get this working, and shower you in blue cod and grey mullet!
Sent from my Z Ultra
LordManhattan said:
I, and probably some other people might love you if you get this working, and shower you in blue cod and grey mullet!
Sent from my Z Ultra
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/me looks over at the fishtank in the corner and wonders how you will get my grey mullet from there to the shower
Way OT
From when they were tiny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EljAZnC7taY
Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Flashing a FTF seems to brick the GPe. If I remember right they has slightly different partition layout or was it bootloader?
blueether said:
Flashing a FTF seems to brick the GPe. If I remember right they has slightly different partition layout or was it bootloader?
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You flash only system & kernel partitions
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You flash only system & kernel partitions
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Dat be tru
if you flash a non _gpe ROM to the GPe some users have reported that it wont boot, doing it the other way around, the only way I can test, it will boot but baseband is missing. The GPe seems to chuck *everything* into /system/etc/firmware/ where the ZU doesn't. The GPe also includes the same blobs as the ZU as well.
I have a update.zip that should get the radio working if a GPe user wants to test it out (see separate thread if you do). If it doesn't want to boot then it will need a little more work...
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Dat be tru
if you flash a non _gpe ROM to the GPe some users have reported that it wont boot, doing it the other way around, the only way I can test, it will boot but baseband is missing. The GPe seems to chuck *everything* into /system/etc/firmware/ where the ZU doesn't. The GPe also includes the same blobs as the ZU as well.
I have a update.zip that should get the radio working if a GPe user wants to test it out (see separate thread if you do). If it doesn't want to boot then it will need a little more work...
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all new sony handset variant need different basebands..
just create a update.zip with all the files from /system/etc/firmware from original ZU GPe KitKat and flash it over the ZU Sony firmware system
device will easily boot
DooMLoRD said:
all new sony handset variant need different basebands..
just create a update.zip with all the files from /system/etc/firmware from original ZU GPe KitKat and flash it over the ZU Sony firmware system
device will easily boot
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that is what I've done, just no GPe owners have piped up yet that they want to test it. I was hoping that the same method would work for stock Sony as well. Just create a zip like I have done in the past and include the firmware dir from the GPe dump.
DooMLoRD said:
Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Just got mine today, but will get the urge to flash stuff before long.
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adfurgerson said:
Just got mine today, but will get the urge to flash stuff before long.
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thanks for your kind donation of 40 USD!
i request you to please hold on before sending donations!
lets first be sure that there are adequate users who are pledging (ready to donate)... once we reach target only then start sending in donations! i dont want you guys to feel cheated incase there arent enough pledges and target is not reached!
regards,
DooMLoRD
DooMLoRD said:
thanks for your kind donation of 40 USD!
i request you to please hold on before sending donations!
lets first be sure that there are adequate users who are pledging (ready to donate)... once we reach target only then start sending in donations! i dont want you guys to feel cheated incase there arent enough pledges and target is not reached!
regards,
DooMLoRD
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If you fall short just use it as you see fit. I benefited from all your work back when I had an X10.
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If you fall short just use it as you see fit. I benefited from all your work back when I had an X10.
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glad to see old x10 users
ALL Questions Should Finally Be Put To Rest
For the record, as many of you now know, DooMLoRD is THE Lord for a damn good reason. Check out his Xperia Download page (http://doomlord.xperia-files.com) and see for yourselves he's already proven just how capable of a developer he already is. Plus since Sony has matched Google' pricing either device could easily be in his hands by the end of this month. C'mon people we've all used his work at some point since the X10 and he clearly stated he'd ..."be interested I'm developing for either of these devices!.
How hard could it be to muster up another 14 members (minimum) to donate at least $20? In the end we'd be GUARANTEED a Bona fide Z Ultra Developer who would instantly improve development for our devices. Something that has been lacking since it's release.
Thank you ADFURGERSON for stepping up to the plate and donating!
I pledge 20 minimum more if needed Ieft note 3 for this device I crave development!!
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Bump 4 my Bro DooMLoRD!
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I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
Dude what the... we have root, can unlock the bootloader on the first day of the device how much easier and open can you get? I'm guessing you have never owned a Motorola phone before as u will then know the meaning of "locked tight".
Clockworkmod is coming like everything else, if you want to speed up the process you should help out perhaps, we can never have too many modders, rom makers, tweakers etc.
-smc
I've owned two motorola phones, and from what I see they did not have the bootloader not accepting unsigned software, even if locked. This make big difference as for now only official firmware are loadable and without a Sony change the situation remain without solutions.
...Okay
The phone has been out less than a month, and it's not even out globally yet (see the gigantic India thread, and others floating around at the moment, it's only available via import in a lot of locations)
Another thing...it is all being worked on at the moment. You want a custom firmware? be patient. There can't be any custom kernels yet because there is a bug in the bootloader at the moment (or something, I won't pretend to know how that works as i'm not a developer) that's keeping Doom and other developers from moving further with the development. Doom also doesn't own the S yet, so he can only do soo much at the moment.
There is already Mods available, but there isn't any modified firmwares out yet, because no one is making any, which I don't blame them because ICS is on its way. You can do it all yourself (read themes and apps section, maybe learn a bit about how to modify phone?), and until the bootloader thing is fixed, thats the best thing to do really.
There's no way to root without unlocking the bootloader -yet-.
It has been adressed many times, that there may be one in the future, but unlocking the bootloader is the current solution, and it works just fine. Also, keeping your bootloader locked (and it can even be relocked) limits your phone anyways. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't void your warranty, it just may if you do something stupid (read overlocking and frying phone) they may or may not (if they even see that you broke your phone by your own doing) fix it under warranty.
Also, if you havent noticed...there isn't a lot of developers on the Xperia S train yet, it all takes time.
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I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
Nope, If you read relating posts, there is no way to make roms as in other phones, due to the bootloader bug, that is related to Sony not to developers.
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
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Please be polite, and read problems involved in development. Doom has locked his thread until there are news from Sony.
So OP's suggested solution for all these difficulties is just close the development section, then everything else will automatically be solved without anyone working, testing and exchanging ideas on it? Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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Although there is a bug in the bootloader I see no reason to close the whole thread .
There are other things that can be worked on and at the moment. It's a good place to get Stock Firmware that can be flashed . Always good to have a heavy variety of Stock ROMs to fall back too.
As stock firmwares are developed hopefully the bug will be fixed and Devs will be able to continue.
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Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
Is there any way I can unlock it using a Mac? Didn't find anything to do it yet, but maybe I am blind
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
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Yeah, I agree, the section with the second highest posts is totally abandoned...
...If we follow this guideline, I think we should close the Accessories section, due to lack of gadgets to go with our phones! (can you see the sarcasm?)
Really, just be patient, it's a new phone, stop whining, or how you say "being provocative".
Edit: Okay sorry, maybe that was a bit harsh...but really, I feel you don't really have the right to judge the speed of fixes and developments when you aren't doing it yourself. The best thing you can do is deal with it for now. They are doing what they can.
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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Good news, thanks
Hi Guys,
Sony is flooding the market with Xperia line, so many phones already released:
Launched
Xperia S
Xperia P
Xperia U
Xperia Sola
Xperia ION
Upcoming:
Xperia Acrp S
Xperia Go
Xperia GXi
Xperia SXi
Rumoured
Lotus
Tropioca
Mint
XYZ
DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET BETTER DEV SUPPORT?
Of course it will get better...
People need to actually own the phones first, and our current developers are doing what they can without even owning the devices. Give it time, it will come.
Most of the phones you listed as released aren't even out for all that long..neither do they have their own forums (for lack of owners/need for a section), give it time. If that doesn't work for you, you could always learn to develop/modify/etc yourself .
I am working for Xperia S, U, P & Sola at the moment, it takes a lot of time to get development started on new phones with brand new CPU's etc
Just give us devs some time
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Just give us devs some time
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... I would add: Give devs some leaks.
Why working full power on GB when we know ICS is coming next month?
Jorgitosms said:
... I would add: Give devs some leaks.
Why working full power on GB when we know ICS is coming next month?
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This.
K900 said:
This.
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Yes also this
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seeems to me that we are too rich, we dont donate dev enough, but we are very demanding !!
and phones are not the first aid thing to buy.
more or less you need developement go to sony and see if they give it to you
they got money? yes they do. So ?
Xda do for as more than enough for as without charging and well we are still not happy that is a sin !!!
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seeems to me that we are too rich, we dont donate dev enough, but we are very demanding !!
and phones are not the first aid thing to buy.
more or less you need developement go to sony and see if they give it to you
they got money? yes they do. So ?
Xda do for as more than enough for as without charging and well we are still not happy that is a sin !!!
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I think u took it wrong way, we are blaming Sony, not XDA !!
Sony should make ONE or TWO perfect device in a year with all ideas going into these sets, not like:
1. ohh let put transparent bar here
2. Ohh we can make it glow
3. Now we can have color changing bar.
4. Put this in plastic.
5. Make this out of Alumunium.
6. Reduce cam MP here.
7. Increase cam MP there.
What rubbish !!!!!
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I completely agree. I have been trawling the Sony site for a dev forum, wiki, anything for help with their 2012 line. Nothing. A few developer docs for (discontinued?) devices.
I did find a useful doc on LiveWare and creating plugins for it, but it only scratches the surface.
I also downloaded the source code for the Xperia S, but it has almost nothing I want in it. I want to see what intents LiveWare can accept (beyond the basic documentation), I want to see how the TV Launcher can be activated. Nothing. For a company that is trying so hard to be dev friendly, they fail pretty much completely. A simple dev forum would be enough.
On an aside, does anyone know how to enable dock mode on the Xperia S, or simulate a HDMI connection in software? These two tasks have been doing my head in for weeks.
Cheers
-- Phil
Now some chinese Neo coming globally
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what do think guys will we get jellybean update for our devices???
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what do think guys will we get jellybean update for our devices???
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thats the only reason why its delayed ;-)
update for NEO was also delayed and got 4.0.4 instead of 4.0.3....
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure we'll get it by the end of the year.
I hope Sony doesn't further delay ICS (it was supposed to be released by now per Sony's schedule, but delayed for the end of July) because of JB, I want 4.x ASAP.
i hope sony skips ics and gives us JB instead the offline voice messaging feature is awesome
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i hope sony skips ics and gives us JB instead the offline voice messaging feature is awesome
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they cant afford to miss ics i would suggeest as the phone has so many problems in its current state i.e software bugs and call/network dropping. If they dont sort these quickly then nobody will care about jellybean as they will have got rid of the phone by the time that happens. Im on the verge of this now...at the end of the day it has to function as a reliable phone and at the moment its not.
It most certainly is on it's most current released firmware, B.1.564. You can downgrade back to it, B.3.162 was pulled and you should not be using it.
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It most certainly is on it's most current released firmware, B.1.564. You can downgrade back to it, B.3.162 was pulled and you should not be using it.
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so what am i missing here then?
so they brought the phone out, then released an update for it to solve what?....and then realised that actually it created more problems than it solved and then pulled it?.....where have they then come out and said that you should roll back and put the original firmware back on it?
seems to be very few forums for the xperia p anywhere so ive not come across much information about how this problem is being fixed. Would appreciate any links or info you have though as i really want to give this phone a chance but its being let down terribly at the moment.
Already explained here. I suggest reading the stickies in order to familiarize yourself with Flashtool and for other useful information regarding the NXT line.
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Already explained here. I suggest reading the stickies in order to familiarize yourself with Flashtool and for other useful information regarding the NXT line.
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yes you gave me the link etc in the xperia p thread which i thanked you for however my question was around the fact that having released a firmware (.62) in a bid i assume to correct some problems it seems that it actually created more than it solved. You have recommended that i roll back to the earlier build that i have not actually ever had as the phone updated itself within a few mins of having it. I am willing to roll back if you feel this will make the phone more reliabe as a phone however i was interested to know where it had been said by sony that we should do this or where the general discusion on here was about it.
what ever we get we get it quick and bug free i heard xperia p has alot of bugs in gingerbread
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what ever we get we get it quick and bug free i heard xperia p has alot of bugs in gingerbread
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Exactly my point which is why they can't afford to wait until the end of the year. They need to sort it and sort it fast, don't think there has been one solid phone in the xperia range released yet. All have so much potential, fantastic hardware and then ruined by shoddy software.
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You're definitely getting it sooner or later.
I'm guessing ICS in late July or early August, and JB somewhere in Q4 2012.
Though the sooner we get ICS and Sony releases it's kernel sources, the better... I'd like to see some custom ROMs floating around, especially FreeXperia's CM for the P.
ICS is on the way right now as we've seen with the Xperia S and other handsets. As for Jellybean, you'll be looking later in the year, if not in the new year. Well, I suspect.
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Sony always take so long to release it :crying:
hey guys final word of advice from me cause there are some real users out here
should i buy xperia p is it really worth it or should i get a galaxy s2 please help me out here i think i will keep this for a while and i want it to be a good one
I'm not sure we can get JB...
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hey guys final word of advice from me cause there are some real users out here
should i buy xperia p is it really worth it or should i get a galaxy s2 please help me out here i think i will keep this for a while and i want it to be a good one
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Compared to the SGS2, the P is actually in a little lower range. The S is about the same.
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I'm not sure we can get JB...
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You'll definitely get it.
Hey guys, I recently got the xperia Z2 over the HTC One M8 to test out before I commit to buying it and having looked on XDA, I can't help but get feeling his phone won't have a great ammount of ROM support from most developers, at least not for a while. Am I wrong in thinking so? I also read somewhere that rooting or unlocking triggers some DRM stuff and things like x-reality stop working. Is this true? If so, what's the point? I though Sony was trying to be more developer friendly? If anyone could answer some of these questions I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm not asking for an ETA on ROMs just that I don't see a massive Sony market in the US and so I feel like it will be lacking in terms of choice. If that is the case and especially if i cannot convert to a GPE equvialent or something then at this point would the HTC one M8 be a better choice?
I also got the Z2 because i liked the phone way better then S5 and M8 but am also worried about developer support. I also got Z which now has quit some support but still not as much as i was used to have on my HTC's.
Phone had a lot of dificulties at launch, late release and stuff, its not even worldwide available yet, but yeah, development wont be as active as s5 or m8, but i prefer quality over quantity, so what if s5 has 10 exactly same roms with different name, you will get all major roms since its one of the currently big 3 phones.
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Hey guys, I recently got the xperia Z2 over the HTC One M8 to test out before I commit to buying it and having looked on XDA, I can't help but get feeling his phone won't have a great ammount of ROM support from most developers, at least not for a while. Am I wrong in thinking so? I also read somewhere that rooting or unlocking triggers some DRM stuff and things like x-reality stop working. Is this true? If so, what's the point? I though Sony was trying to be more developer friendly? If anyone could answer some of these questions I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm not asking for an ETA on ROMs just that I don't see a massive Sony market in the US and so I feel like it will be lacking in terms of choice. If that is the case and especially if i cannot convert to a GPE equvialent or something then at this point would the HTC one M8 be a better choice?
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You're wrong, I will soon build a rom for the Xperia Z2
Yeah exactly. I am more worried about the DRM stuff and the fact that I do like stock android so I may want to convert to GPE; in your opinion, is the ROM scene for the M8 worth swapping this phone for?
Thanks niaboc! but do you truthfully think I should wait and do you think there will be a good enough amount of mods etc? Also what about the DRM stuff?
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You're wrong, I will soon build a rom for the Xperia Z2
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This is great news! I've been missing your Existenz Roms from my Z! :laugh:
No argument there, the phone did have launch issues definitely. I understand your quality over quantity issue but 3 ROMs I need without fail are PA, Slimkat and a Google play edition; especially the GPE. Do you think that will happen truthfully? On the M8 it already has and its a matter of flashing it now really. I feel like if I choose the Z2 and wait and the experience isn't good then I may be disappointed quite a lot no matter how great the phone is and I'm worried about that seeing as it is an expensive investment!
Drm seems to be a problem of past. I unlocked bootloader, lost drm keys, and only thing i lost is music and video unlimitted service, which i wasnt using anyways. Its your choice, we cannot see future and tell how many roms gonna be here compared to m8, but im sure its gonna be plenty for my needs. I bought z2 and m8, and they both are briliant, but as you can see im using z2 now, while my father got m8. Only real advantage in m8 for me was feeling you get holding it, that shape is amazingly comfortable.
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Yeah exactly. I am more worried about the DRM stuff and the fact that I do like stock android so I may want to convert to GPE; in your opinion, is the ROM scene for the M8 worth swapping this phone for?
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I am choosing a phone for his design and hardware...
What's the point to have 300 roms who are nearly identicals.
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Hmm. You make a good point and I will definitely take that into account. Others are reporting loss of x-reality and features like that which I don't want to be restricted on if I root and unlock my boot loader. As for the M8 you're right it does have an incredible body but the Z2 in white looks so amazing!
Fair enough! I have this phone till the 26th so if it looks good by then, I may keep it! The DRM stuff, I dunno I'll have to deal with it I guess! Thanks!
Hello everyone,
I made a petition about our favorite phone to get another update from Sony.
You can sign here
Phone/ROM-related petitions never work. Plus we won't have 100K people signing it - XDA isn't as big as you think, and people outside XDA just don't care or don't even know what's Marshmallow at all.
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It never work or never tried.....i think xda is big enough...people will start knowing about marshmallow and regular people also like updates....maybe in a long run Sony will change its mind...who knows....it never hurt to try..does it .
martin132014 said:
It never work or never tried.....i think xda is big enough...people will start knowing about marshmallow and regular people also like updates....maybe in a long run Sony will change its mind...who knows....it never hurt to try..does it .
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Yeah? Check:
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-up...nternational-versions-to-android-5-0-lollipop
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...ollipop-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-4g-lte-gt-i9305
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
https://www.change.org/p/meizu-tech...r-mx4-mx4-pro-and-m1-with-their-kernel-source
https://www.change.org/p/google-release-lollipop-for-android-one-devices
... the objects of which are also fairly popular devices around the globe. Did they listen? Even if they did, did they listen from there?
(And the one I'd even like to sign...
https://www.change.org/p/smartphone...oid-smartphones-with-physical-keyboard-slider)
I'm not saying that Sony won't change its mind under certain influences, just that the influence won't be a petition which can only gather merely thousands of votes in months.
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Well, companies have their own practices and strategies....merely left behind certain product will sometimes benefits that company for a long time even some owner not happy about it....i think i understand some avid users will do this to get attention...but i also know why big company will not listen...maybe they care, maybe they don't but i think if you want to apply updated program or software to certain device is expensive....to want a profit, they need to do this i think...left the product that users a gradually left behind....
Why is having marshmallow important anyway? Nothing after android 4.3 really impressed me. Every new version is buggy and harder to root and the next version tries to only resolve those bugs and introduces other bugs. But I wish you well with your goal and I hope your petition works.
like I said before in another thread. I love my ultra and how it works on KitKat 4.4.4. the battery last longer and some apps work on KitKat that don't on lollipop. I've been on lollipop 5.0.2 rooted and on 5.1.1 rooted and I didn't like it and went back to KitKat 4.4.4. KitKat work very good with my ultra and i'll stay on it till it quits working or sell it. so I don't care for lollipop and marshmallow
I don´t think enough Ultras were sold to start a petition...
does GPE edition gets Android M?
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does GPE edition gets Android M?
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Not according to Sony themselves, but that could change. Don't expect it though.
I though GPE update are handled by google. If nexus 5 is getting Android M, no reason why others s800 phones can't.
Gitaroo said:
I though GPE update are handled by google. If nexus 5 is getting Android M, no reason why others s800 phones can't.
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Yup, and that's why we have no freakin' idea if it gets M. I sure hope it does, but it's impossible to tell. We'll notice in a week or two though. Cross your fingers!
go to sony official blog. the chance to be heard are bigger there. it's useless making a petition for this kind of issue.
I think, this is pure speculation, GPE has to be joint effort between Sony and Google.. Sony provide the bootloader and kernel and probably recovery too.
Google can then take a bootable platform and build Android on it.
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I think another question should be whether xzu owners would be willing to pay, say, $10 for an upgrade. I would.
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I think, this is pure speculation, GPE has to be joint effort between Sony and Google.. Sony provide the bootloader and kernel and probably recovery too.
Google can then take a bootable platform and build Android on it.
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Sony released the 6.0 binaries earlier this week, which are proprietary Sony drivers which allows ROM developers to get AOSP running on our devices, so maybe they gave those to Google too, so they can port 6.0 to the GPe(?). I don't know. I'm not sure how the GPe program works at that level, so I guess all we can do at this point is to wait and see. (Give it 2-3 weeks)
So does anyone know if GPe version of Z Ultra is getting Marshmallow? I can't find info on this..If they get it, it can be ported to regular XZU as well, right?