Hi,
OK, so i finally got my TS yesterday, big surprise, was not expecting it.
Now, please forgive me, I am sure you are sick of users like me, but I don't know where to start.
I wanted to know how to get the play store, so I visited the Omate website > community > that led me here.
I have read many posts in these forums and now I am confused. I have no clue about this stuff and I need some clear clarifications and advice. Please pretend you are explaining to a 5 year old child.
1. I get the impression after reading posts here that the TS with stock everything is very unsafe. I have the non-dev edition. Is this true?
2. If so, I understand I have to install a patch. Is there a clear simple guide how to do this?
3. You then recommend I install a custom ROM.
3a. What do I gain by doing this?
3b. Which ROM do you recommended?
3c. Is there a clear simple guide on how to do this?
4. I also read that the BT is broken! Is this true? Does this mean I will not be able to connect a headset?
5. Icing on the cake, it is not water resistant and I cannot swim with it. How about heavy rainfall? If I am out on my bike, do I need to worry about rain?
Once again, please forgive me, this is way out of my comfort zone, I have never done anything like this before. I just wanted a watch that I could use as a phone and check my emails at times when my normal phone was not an option and "way back when" I had no idea it was going to be such a long, complicated and disaster plagued process.
Thank you in advance for sharing your time, it is appreciated.
-B
2100 1/8 TrueSmart (non-dev)
My watch is still on custom but I'll try to help you...
As I said I don't have it yet and all I know is from my Android experience on phones.
First, you'll need to root your device
* I'll post a link in a min *
Then find on Google "play store", download and open it.
Download all apps you need...
I would definitely recommend to flash custom ROM or patch developed by Loki.
Go to Omate section on XDA and ready first few threads by Loki, you'll get all when you read that...
Here are the links...
You have all instructions in OP (opening post - first post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9944525 - how to use flashing tool for TS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51808413 - root Omate with this tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52253528 - ROM by Loki.
it's only custom ROM that'll work on 2100 version.
Patched and secured...
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I never had a problem with rain with my Motoactv, so I figure this should be fine as well. I've worn it in the rain a few times with no issues. Granted I haven't worn it in the rain with rain pelting on it for like a 45 minute period or anything, but I don't let things like rain or washing my hands get in the way. That being said, I can't say for sure if you could have it exposed to heavy rain while riding your bike for extended periods of time. Rain can come down pretty hard sometimes, and that with the speed that you're traveling at could cause water ingress. I kind of take the safe approach for mine though. It took a long time to get and I do like how it functions, so I really don't want to break it.
Thanks
Thank you both for your swift response.
funky0308 thank you for your guidance, I will walk through your steps and give it a go. So does this mean that it is unsafe at stock and I don't really have an option but to root it? If I want it secure that is.
speedyink, glad to know it can at least handle splashes
Examining and playing with it today, I came to pretty much the conclusion you described, so I am not going to worry too much about it, but I will not take the p*ss.
Thank you both again.
funky0308 said:
My watch is still on custom but I'll try to help you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9944525 - how to use flashing tool for TS
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Your first link goes to a post for a TPU Case for a Nexus S
BD111 said:
Your first link goes to a post for a TPU Case for a Nexus S
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Haha...really don't know why...
Well....Tapatalk...
Anyway...
Try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47090665
And yeah...you have to install/flash recovery (TWRP) to flash ROM or patch.
Usually that means you have to root it first to flash/install recovery.
You need recovery because you can't flash zip files without it...
Maybe it's different on TS, maybe you can flash only TWRP without rooting device first - I'm not sure...
But TWRP and Loki ROM is something you must have.
Or at least Loki patch and Dees_Troy ROM (for bluetooth tethering)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51455564
After you set everything and flash ROM and patch, check this thread and install (you also have this app on market) best companion app for TS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1735788
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Be careful even about exposing the TrueSmart to casual splashes. Many owners have reported their watches died from very light exposure to water, others have had better luck. It seems to depend of how it was assembled. There are several possible points of ingress: speaker grill, antennae ports, buttons, gaskets.
It was never really IP67 tested nor certified anyway.
Some seem to work OK for things like ocean kayaking, but you can't tell until you have tried and then it is likely it will die.
Do not expect a warranty replacement, in any case. It has happened, but don't expect it.
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OK, I was planning to follow the steps and root it tonight, however I am not sure I need to.
I have the 2100 1/8 not the 1900, does that mean I do not have the same security flaws?
Here are the details from my TS:
Baseband Version
MOLY.MR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V4,2013/08/14 18:16
Kernel Version
3.4.5
Omate Version
OUI 2.1
Custom Build Version
Omate_TrueSmart_20140328.182336_V2.0
Is my TS safe?
Thanks
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trent999 said:
Be careful even about exposing the TrueSmart to casual splashes. Many owners have reported their watches died from very light exposure to water, others have had better luck. It seems to depend of how it was assembled. There are several possible points of ingress: speaker grill, antennae ports, buttons, gaskets.
It was never really IP67 tested nor certified anyway.
Some seem to work OK for things like ocean kayaking, but you can't tell until you have tried and then it is likely it will die.
Do not expect a warranty replacement, in any case. It has happened, but don't expect it.
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OK, thanks for the heads-up trent999 :good:
You do still have all the security flaws, even with the latest version of the 2100 firmware. They did not correct t ANY of the problems that Lokifish discovered and reported to them with fixes last year. They do not seem to either care or understand, I am not sure which. Probably both. EnSec patch by Lokifish will take care of most of the problems and correctly root the phone, but I cannot help you with selecting the version or installing. You can handle it though, with info available here on xda in other threads.
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You do still have all the security flaws, even with the latest version of the 2100 firmware. They did not correct t ANY of the problems that Lokifish discovered and reported to them with fixes last year. They do not seem to either care or understand, I am not sure which. Probably both. EnSec patch by Lokifish will take care of most of the problems and correctly root the phone, but I cannot help you with selecting the version or installing. You can handle it though, with info available here on xda in other threads.
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Really? Wow! This company is starting to sound like a real joke. Lying in their promotional campaigns, ignoring known security flaws and practicing ignorance as a customer service model, I am really starting to wish I didn't bother.
Have they made any attempt to acknowledge Lokifish's discoveries? If so, have they give the xda community (or anyone else for that matter) any indication as to what they plan to do about it?
Yes. They officially support and encourage the installation of Lokifish's EnSec patch.
That involved no effort on their part, so, of course.
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trent999 said:
Yes. They officially support and encourage the installation of Lokifish's EnSec patch.
That involved no effort on their part, so, of course.
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They really need to make it very clear to all of their customers that this problem needs patching. Thanks for the info.
Hi guys, figured I'd dive into this thread instead of starting another.
I've also just received my watch, 1/8/2100. I've read through the thread, followed links around in circles to empty repositories and posts that link to yet more posts that I just don't understand, I'm completely lost.
Is there anywhere a simple step by step, download this [link to actual download], run this [name of app], do this [instructions].. Something that doesn't rely on prior knowledge of how to do all this stuff.
Basically I have my expensive paper weight and I'd really prefer not to turn it into an expensive broken paperweight by using the wrong tools :-/
Sorry for being so dense, I just don't get it. Thanks.
No. Your 1/8/2100 may not be compatible with the patch - or anything else here for the TS. I also have a latest batch 1/8/2100 and the firmware is different to previous batches. You can root it but I've held off on patching and ROMing.
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No. Your 1/8/2100 may not be compatible with the patch - or anything else here for the TS. I also have a latest batch 1/8/2100 and the firmware is different to previous batches. You can root it but I've held off on patching and ROMing.
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Ah.. And seeing any further development has stalled due to lack of source code.. my expensive paperweight will likely remain an expensive paperweight. Isn't that just grand...
Thanks mate.
Next stupid question. There are about 6 clock faces to choose from, but my admittedly hasty back of a napkin math seems to indicate there should be 26 (one for every $5K above $900K)... Is this another thing that just didn't happen, or is it something we were supposed to get from the o-store or..?
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I've known for some time that the app permissions and data about us being sent to companies via our 'free' apps has always been scandelous. If you don't know about this, there are countless studies by reputable organisations, simply google it.
Like many of us here, I've owned a number of hot Xperia phones, and a few days ago got a new one! But, I updated an app, and when I opened it, I got a shock with how far the permissions are going. The updated app said note: we're going to collect this data about your device. The three pieces that pi**ed me off today are:
1. Phone number
2. Android device ID
3. Info. about all apps on phone
If you're famialiar with why Facebook is one of the greatest marketing successes of our time, then you probably, like me, like to protect your privacy on your phone. I don't think Google is all bad, and there are so many apps which help you in this regard.
Without voiding the warranty of my new phone, I cannot yet get root. I need root to install all sorts of apps which help protect me and my life. Would you tell a stranger on the street your name, age, what's on your phone, phone number, the sites you visit etc? I wouldn't do that. I'm frustrated right now, caught between saving my new warranty and not selling my life for a few stupid 'free' games. I think there is a misstep here. OK the manufacturers let us modify software at our own risk, but they sell the stories of our phones living in an app heaven/bountyland/happy place, but don't do anything to help us protect our privacy.
I agree with you completely. But there are methods to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader (if you still think they will discover, you just have to flash a stock firmware before taking to the store and done)
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Thanks buddy. I've tried all locked-bootloader roots available in this section, flashtool and others.
p.s. for anyone interested in one in this stuff, probably my favourite app (requires root) is LBE Privacy Guard. I used it on other Xperias and there's nothing it can't do!
Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow, you can't post anything on this site without an irrelevant sarcastic answer.
Why can't you just root using this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Straight forward and quick. Then if you need to send your phone in just flash back to your standard stock firmware??
Thanks very much! I have tried that one though, and posted a report - it fails on my phone. It works for some phones (especially the S and P) but not on all the 2012 Sony phones. I've rooted a few phones before, so I check all the things you have to do and can't find the problem. No one with my phone has posted success with that tool so I doubt it's just me.
I seen in the data usage, some of the free apps have been upload a LOT of data, when they have no reason to e.g. a free live wallpaper. It makes me so angry I just want to nuke the software and not install anything new until root is sorted.
Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
Yezariael said:
As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
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Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
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Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
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yes, would be great.
At the moment i help me with deactivation from apps i didnt use.
Its funny that it has been released so fast in germany, i ordered it on amazon at the 15th and got it on the next friday, very fast.
I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
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I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
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I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
Root wanted
rschalie said:
I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
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Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
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Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
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I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
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Agreed, I just received my TF701 from Amazon yesterday and right out of the box it blows my TF700 out of the water. Barely any slowdown while downloading and installing apps whereas the 700 would grind to a halt. Dock arriving today, hopefully Asus solved the dock battery draining issue as well. Root would be nice for apps like Titanium Backup but this is my first Android device - and I've owned a lot of them - that I might be happy with totally stock.
Alta1r said:
Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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Mine is Rooted, with CWM Recovery. And it was actually a simple procedure.
I can tell you that before you even think about proceeding, you will need to have your device unlocked. That can be found at Asus's web site. In their download section, I'm sure.
Next, you'll need to make sure that your PC/Laptop can see your device. My Win7 setup saw it already as a "K00C", or some such thing, but if yours doesn't, then get the "Sync" util from Asus and install it on your PC. It'll install the drivers with it. But then go back and uninstall the Sync util. The drivers will be left on your system.
Before connecting your device, make sure to disable all Anti-Virus, Anti-Mal/Spyware from any and all Real Time scanning. Also completely disable any and all firewalls you have installed. If you haven't installed any, then guess what? Windows Firewall is still running, so disable it!
You will also need to use a USB 2.0 and not 3.0 port on your computer to connect your device to. Why? I don't know man, just do it!
Do NOT connect your device yet! You're just getting ready here!
Next you'll need the little mini ADB &FastBoot setup. You're going to have to use that to do it (it's in the video where to get it and how to use it). If he doesn't tell you where to get it from in the video, then I think this guy has a link to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516215
Heck, maybe that's where I got it from. I just remember that it's the "mini" version. The "just needed stuff" one.
Then go and watch the video in the link below. It's too wordy and doesn't even tell you what web sites he's looking at, so really, who cares what Josh would do (you'll get that later)?
In fact, maybe I got tired of the video and just found the guys page that I linked to above and followed that and that's where the "who cares what Josh would do" joke sticks in my head. That does sound more logical. <lol>
Either way, read through this and try that guys page, or the video first. I do know that by doing what I said in this message and using one of those two sources, you WILL get Rooted! That's a FACT! I'm sorry about this. It's just that it's been a couple of weeks since I did it and I didn't write it all down like I should have.
But here's the web sites he's looking at in the video (have them already open before starting the video):
CWM Page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621051
CWM File: http://droidbasement.com/asus/tf701t/recovery/
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBN1YkBp3g
Now there's stuff I'm missing in here. I probably didn't bookmark everything, but whatever I missed here, was in the video, so don't worry.
Note: Someone mentioned somewhere about keeping Recovery intact when installing a ROM, or a reset, etc.. CWM has a setting for that. It keeps the recovery intact through that stuff. I remember it kept staying on me one time when I wanted to go back to factory to sell the device and then I went into the settings and saw that one, which is enabled by default, so don't worry about that anymore.
One thing; It says in the video that you have to be at JB 4.3 first. That's correct, so update. There is one available through your device's "Software Update" thingy.
One thing that is incorrect, is when he says; "You must be at such and such version of this thing" (whatever it was), which is related to your version of JB 4.3. Yours won't be. Now yer scared, uh?
Don't worry about that. It's not true! It'll work just fine! Mine did. That was probably just what the version was when they developed this thing and so they're playing it safe. I don't blame them, but how can anyone know that it "must" be, when newer versions of JB 4.3 (huh?) hadn't come out yet. No need to scare people. Just say as far as you know.... but who knows for future revisions of the OS, right?
Anyway, this'll get ya through it, if you can deal with Josh's wordiness. Just be patient, he gets there. But you do have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt, like any of what you watch/read. My rule as a tech is, if it doesn't make sense, then it's probably wrong.
Hope this helps. And you didn't have to "Read! Read! Read!". That never gets you anywhere. You just end up reading a bunch of threads full of messages by people looking for help and others responding by telling them to read. And if you're lucky, you always end up at that one post that actually has the help you need. So why not just point people there in the first place? When that doesn't happen, XDA and other sites just end up cluttered with threads that delay people from getting help, instead of pointing them to help, which is what they were looking for in the first place, right?
Don't get me wrong, I love to read! And I encourage everyone to do the same! I'm just saying, with all due respect, reading a bunch of threads full of nothing but pleas for help and "read, read, read", is not learning. It's just noise. Unnecessary static. And threads with 70 pages of that doesn't help anyone, now does it?
I'm no saint, but this is my only post in this thread. And now there won't be 100 more messages containing "Help!!!" and "Read! Read! Read!".
The heck with that! I just want my device Rooted now! Hahaha!
If I forgot anything in here, just lemme know. I'll try to find it again. Or maybe I have the file. If you don't hear back from me, just PM me or something. I'm not on here all that much, but that will send me an alert or something, I'm sure. I think? Oh well, try it.
The biggest thing is, just don't let your fear of bricking your device overwhelm you. I have to say, that even though I never used any of this stuff before (meaning ADB & FastBoot & "pushing") and I was quite nervous, it actually was, looking back at it, a really simple procedure! So use my hindsight to hammer down that fear and Root, my son, root! <lol>
BANG HEAD!!
I have been flashing ROMs/Kernels etc for about a year so no a little. After testing Doris new 9.43v15 kernel I lost root, nothing unusual there, could get it back simply by dirty flashing PAC ROM again. Decided I wanted to go back to an earlier back up of Carbon ROM when I had Doris 9.43 earlier version running fine with no unroot issues. Used Hawkerpauls GS2 ROMnuke to clean my ROM then discovered nothing worked in CWM (just click and back to CWM first menu screen). So I powered off to which I got this message: root maybe lost - re root now yes/no - I clicked yes and then boot loop on Samsung logo. Tried to go back to CWM, CWM screen appears briefly with logo in bottom right, however blank screen and no menu for recovery.
Unfortunately my mini usb post is knackered on my phone, will charge but will not connect to pc. I have been using ADB wireless to connect with my phone but don't know how/if I can find this without phone switched on and running a ROM. Remember the ROM wipe I mentioned earlier - problem - NO ROM TO BOOT INTO! - Phone enters download mode fine though.
Only thing I can think off is sending my phone off and paying £50 excess on my insurance to get them to fix it, I have checked with a couple a local phones shop but they will charge £30 to fix it but say it could take 5 days! These are both last ditch solutions as I'm sure you can all appreciate I really don't want to be without my phone
I have searched XDA but can't find any solutions to this specific problem, if anyone has any ideas or knows where I meant find info that could help I would be very very grateful
SOLUTION:
Finally - it is done, my phone is resurrected and able to flash with pc odin once more. The solution - pay a guy £25 to fit new usb port!
What I have learnt:
If root is lost it is best to flash a new kernel with root before using gs2romnuke
That usb connection is really important so as to have access to odin via pc if all else fails
That some people are very good at laughing at others but seemingly struggle to laugh at themselves lol
Oh - and that M.O.P. = Mobile Odin Pro - I just worked it out all on my own haha
Thank you to those who have tried to help.
1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
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1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
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Thanks 'theunderling'
I thought Q&A was supposed to be friendly? Having looked at your profile and reading the posts that others have 'thanked' you for I can see you are consistently rude. I wonder - how do you think this could possibly help anyone? It's people like you that make XDA extremely off putting to new people who are trying to learn. I thought XDA was supposed to be a community based on being helpful? Were you never new once? Or maybe when you were you were bullied yourself and that's why you have now become one!
As stated in my post, I have come to the conclusion that I would need to replace my USB port, I really can't see for the life of me how using mobile odin pro could have helped when I had already lost root from within my ROM?
If anyone does have any suggestions for regaining use of my phone without replacing the usb I would be very grateful
Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
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Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
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Thank you, I'm being oversensitive due to being ill as hell due to a chest infection that just wont shift, and then this with my phone, just having one of those days. Yes, forgive and forget is a much better option.
That's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for from you and I will certainly check out keithross guide.
I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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1. My phone was rooted long long before my USB got effed. - I didn't realize your advice could lead to psychic abilities!
2. LOL - I have a back up phone, but its sh#t!! Its an old council work phone, horrible - really horrible.
3. I was never after your's, nor anyone else's sympathy come to that.
4. I found a local dealer who has the part in stock and can fix my phone tomorrow for £25 which I agree is 'chicken feed' in the scheme of things.
5. What is M.O.P. app ?
Our international friends may not know what NHS is so I will explain - NHS = National Health Service, I don't think USA and other regions of the world are as fortunate to have these services. Perhaps you struggle to understand the nuances of convivial conversation, are you apergic? If so please accept my apologies, my step son is aspergic and he has know idea of social norms. If not, are you narcissistic? That I would say is true !!!
P.S. - if you can't take it don't give it out, I could go on like this all week long as I really have nothing better to do because I am off work and ill!! I'd much rather just be friends as I'm sure you have a lot to give and I could learn much, just play nice after all this is all in a forum that states:
"Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 > Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting ... [ Newbies][Experienced Users][RCs] New members friendly Q&A thread."
- which part of that was it that you didn't understand?
How are you aggrieved exactly, what is it that you think I have done - stated the truth about your behavior?
I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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Asperger's syndrome
1. a developmental disorder related to autism and characterized by awkwardness in social interaction, pedantry in speech, and preoccupation with very narrow interests.
I get your point, but really, there was very little I could do other than what I am doing now, which is to get it fixed! I reiterate - the phone was rooted prior to the usb getting broken, so, in affect what you are saying is that people should not root their phones if there is risk of not being able to connect to a pc, which means no one should ever risk rooting.
I think there is a place for your 'flaming' approach to people who don't know as much as you, but it certainly not here in a 'friendly, new peoples' forum. Fire away all you like in developers forums, I think you should stick to the rules here though and I suspect you would be the first to point out when others don't follow forum rules.
Your point about me saying 'I couldn't live without my phone' is ridiculous, it was just a figure of speech, if your car broke, would you not want it fixed asap? Not a lot of difference. I think you are making a big fuss over nothing, simply semantics.
I just think it's a shame that you feel the need to try to embarrass new people who are simply asking for help in a forum that is set up for just that Are you really that insecure? Is your self esteem so low?? LOL :laugh:
Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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Ooooo - did I get under your skin or something? Getting a bit close to the mark?? Just as you enjoy making your opinions public and having your say, so I am doing the same. Remember it was your choice to join in on this thread and start being insulting. If you don't like what you have got back maybe you will think twice about the way you communicate on a registered new peoples Q&A. You never know when that seemingly young little dog might bite back. If you don't want people to look at your profile then I suggest you keep it 'private' - there is a button for it, have a look. Isn't that line "I here the iphone5 is pretty good" getting a bit old now? I have seen you use it in quite a few of your recent posts, maybe you could think of a new one lol!
As I said to you previously, if you don't like getting it back maybe you shouldn't start in the first place.
BTW - your opening comments are ridiculous, what you say makes no sense - what point exactly were you trying to make anyway? Of course people come on here because they end up having problems, and they come to learn and try and find solutions.
Like I said, I have all week to continue this, although I agree with you that our time could be better served in actually helping others than bickering.
I have asked you some questions in this post, they really don't require a response as they are rhetorical (that means for you to think about) Now I suggest we agree to disagree, stop squabbling like school children and end this now. I am quite secure in myself, although I suspect your pride could take much more of a battering else you wouldn't have reacted so badly to my response's to you. And yes, I do indeed have the training and skills to 'psychoanalyze' as you say.
Maybe we can both stop taking our selves so damned seriously, as for reporting you, why would I want to do that, maybe just to give a moderator a good laugh? Now, shall we agree to move on?
That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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LOL! seems to me like it is actually you that is struggling with 'rising above criticism' and yes, you are right you have wasted a lot of time commenting in my thread, I'm sure it will give others a good chuckle though. You see, what you fail to understand is that I simply don't care about what you say about or think off me, I do however care about the next new guy that wants a bit of help and that's exactly why I'm prepared to stand up to your bullying nonsense.
Now maybe after all you do possess psychic abilities as you clearly seem to know what I think and would do in other circumstances than I have even considered, the thing is though, that no one else did say any of those things, it was only you!
And contrary to what you say the only other senior member that has commented was indeed extremely helpful and fill of useful suggestions rather than sarcastic criticism. I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Tried cleaning USB and there was a shed load of fluff and goodness knows what in there, also tried cleaning with a tooth brush and surgical spirit, still get failed to recognize USB error on pc though. I will look at the thread you suggested now. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Edit: I know the lead and ports on my pc are fine because they work perfectly on my wife's i9100.
Edit: Thanks, excellent thread by hopper8, I will be referring others to that thread, unfortunately nothing there that helps in my particular situation, just going to have to pay £25 to get new USB out in tomorrow as I don't fancy attempting it myself, looks kind of tricky!
This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
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This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I disagree, XDA is big and Google huge and after searching extensively I could find no conclusive answer to my specific query. That doesn't mean to say it's not there, just that I couldn't find it. I see on this forum time and time again new people struggling to navigate their way around these forums, perhaps if people were given a little more help to learn to 'search' maybe people would learn quicker saving the less tolerant purple on xda their precious time and effort to read what they consider to be tiresome threads.
Which leads me to my next thoughts, if your time is so precious and this specific subject has been covered so many times and is so boring, why would you 3 read it let alone comment??
Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have to say, no way you're getting it going again unless you can PC flash using Odin/Heimdall after running that ROMNuke script (I use the same script & have had similar issue once.) However, that brings me to my next point.. I was able to flash stock via Odin no problem in download mode. My USB port was working fine, because I'd recently replaced it. I know you rooted your phone before the USB port stuffed up, but moral of the story is, fix hardware defects immediately (volume keys, power keys, USB ports, whatever it is). You never know when you'll need them functioning correctly, as you unfortunately found out.
Not trying to have a dig, that's a friendly word of advice from my own experience.
I think it's high time that I present myself. I'm not as noob as I can be in the forums. Yes, I don't know Android, since electronics isn't my field of working anymore. I have studied electronics and went for a master in Engineering Physics so I'm not a newbie when it comes to hardware.
Just that I got this (stupid?) 30-year crisis and went for an MD instead.
My foremost field of working has been Unix, but I'm schooled in lower levels and had done both VHDL/Erlang projects and have been really fluent in asm. But that was a LONG time ago when Motorola 68xxx was the ruler (oh, the ****ing best cpu ever made code-wise).
The aversion and stop for asm-coding came with Inter and that was around the 486-time when you had to fiddle with the memory and stuff.
I have kept parts on my knowledge. Did a SOC for a big company with a linux that I pressed in on 128 kb of Rom but I'm not up to date with arm-asm and I can say that the last time I ever coded something was around 1996 since I started with design/capacity planning of hardware and management.
So the time has flown by. I'm a C-coder. Never coded a line of Java in my line. I'm also from Sweden and I don't know where you are from but if you are from USA we have quite some different rules here, especially when it comes to consumer law that can be used for us.
Ok. Enough **** about me.
I called Samsung today and this is a summary of the conversation I had.
I asked them about why the consumers had to use the Knox and how to pass it as a developer.
He could not answer it.
I asked if I trip the flag, why does it forbid me to sideload my own developed applications?
He could not answer it.
I asked how to remove it since as a consumer I had no use for it and this is something that I have not signed up for.
He said that I could send in my phone and have it reflashed to a lower version of the firmware.
I asked for specifications about it and said that knew it's a SE-linux containter (because it is).
That he could confirm.
I asked him what for specifications for the boot loader since it hinders me in my work.
He said that the only thing he could provide was a downgraded one (see above)
I said that I don't want a downgraded one since all use 4.3 and that is the future.
He could not provide that.
I said that maybe this is a deal that Samsung has done with NSA to provide them with information since I don't know what the phone sends out since I'm locked out of the kernel.
He said that he understood that he would feel the same sentiment.
I asked him if consider us who are developing on a low lever as valuable people the brings the phone forward.
He agreed.
I told him that I don't consider tripping the Know-flag to invalidate my warranty since it could be tripped in Kies (as reported here).
He agreed on that and told me that I could then contact the service for a reflash.
I told him that the option left then would be to crack the boot-loader as with the rooting.
He said yes.
Note that this is in Sweden. But the info in any case is interesting since he very well knew about this.
So the info I got. Yes. It's a Se-linux container and it is reflashable. Since it's reflashable we now know that it's not an e-Fuse and can leave that question. Since it's software it's crackable.
Seems high time for me to start to update myself on arm-asm. I got lazy with VHDL/Erlang
Also, this has not been the field of my quite messy life. Going from electronics to computers and Unix towards medicine.
I don't have a J-TAG. What do you guys use? What have you found so far?
Do we have access to the very beginning of the boot strapping?
With that I mean the first asm-lines that the phone do as a start. Is that hardware or is that software?
In this case. Could someone please provide me with that. As I said. I don't know Arm-asm yet, but I'll try to freshen myself. Asm is asm and the last thing I did with Arm was working with a Xlinix that had 2 cores in the die and then a VHDL-part. Really nifty. But that was 10 years ago.
My other problem is time, like you all, since I'm guessing you work full time.
But can someone update me or give me links to white-papers etc on how the phone starts? I guess there is quite little about it. It's not the glorious days where you could get papers on the clock-penalties and how revolutionary it was when you could do an instruction on both the edges of the clock-wave.
Sorry. I type a lot, but I really hate this and yes, people can say what they want. When Ericsson still made phones I had a special firmware that showed a LOT more then what a normal user would get and how chatty the phones are without us knowing. So the option of spreading the "Samsung has made a deal with NSA" WILL scare people whatever you think. I have done "activist" things before and you just have to present it as a theory and get to the point where the rumor will get viral.
I was truly amazed when my complaint against RIIA went viral and the "Govermental institution for internet privacy" got over 5000 complaints in one day. Don't know how that works in other countries but every document that you send here is official and need to be filed. We also have the reverse policy that seems to be a bit unique. Everything is open until it's classified as not public. Not otherwise as it seems in most countries.
Ok, off topic. You have to live with that if you want my help that I'm offering here.
Where are you know in the dissaembly of the boot-loader? SE-linux CAN be cracked but if t's scrabled with hardware it makes it a bit harder.
Ok, enough from me. Want me to start to dig with the Cortex-chip? I know that Qualcom are more then happy to provide white-papers on their chip. Just a matter of cost.
/Paul
Download the open source kernel and build it from source. Use ida for analysis and the qualcomm and Samsung boot procedure documents are around you have to search though.
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Surge1223 said:
Download the open source kernel and build it from source. Use ida for analysis and the qualcomm and Samsung boot procedure documents are around you have to search though.
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Ok, I've seen that some use a modded build-chain for it. Is that just modded for speed or what is modded and where can you get it?
/Paul
Btw, got a i9506 today. Will be interesting. Also got An Note 3 and that has 4.3. Both are "pre-knoxed". Need a good burn-in software before i start to root them. Know any?
I have not noticed this behavior before but although they are connected to a Wifi they still search every 15 s or so for others. I don't recall if my old one did that? My HTC doesn't.
But anyone now how the phone boots-strap? It's too late after having a kernel.
Since it makes it before it loads it, it's not a real SE-kernel because then the custom ones would work without even touching Know, would they. And they trip the flag.
So the check must be done earlier? Besides, are the kernel sources enforcing MAC? I have not set up a build env yet so that's all the questions.
And any good J-Tag that you recommend?
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You might send it in, if yours is qfused like the ATT model they will have to resign the MDL bootloader with a certificate that has not been invalidated by the qfuse.
If they do that, you can extract it and we will atleast be able to flash back the i9505.
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You might send it in, if yours is qfused like the ATT model they will have to resign the MDL bootloader with a certificate that has not been invalidated by the qfuse.
If they do that, you can extract it and we will atleast be able to flash back the i9505.
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Do you still think it's actually an e-fuse? If they can "reflash" it as I got the info yesterday that means that the e-fuse is in the prom because how else could they just change it?
I'm still not sure about the fuse thing? Do we have that black on white that it's the case?
Because I think that they have just a small SE-Linux in the bootloader and then they can enforce all the rules they want. Your phone will behave
basically like a jailed Unix-account and the only success in cracking it is to prevent it to load. There is no other way.
I just sent a long and nice mail to Samsung. Will see if they contact me tomorrow.
I basically asked them why it's enforced on us private citizens and if we should start to openly question the motives on Samsung in different
mobile user forums. Because I will. Would be happy if someone would follow suit and help out.
Bad publicity is something that is hard to get rid off. Also, we never got an opt-in/out.
And if they start to get it it WILL scare them. I've done that before but not on this scale.
If need be I will drag them through our Consumer department. They are not so fun if they bite on the case and it just cost me time to write a letter of complaint to them.
"Freedom loving" Sweden will not accept spy-ware on their phones. That is one of the strong thing here. Consumer power and the equivalent for governmental issues.
Well, I'll report tomorrow. Btw, I got my new phone yesterday and it was a I9506.
They don't sell the I9505 anymore and the prel result with plain kernel is that it's about the same speed as Note 3.
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Do you still think it's actually an e-fuse? If they can "reflash" it as I got the info yesterday that means that the e-fuse is in the prom because how else could they just change it?
I'm still not sure about the fuse thing? Do we have that black on white that it's the case?
Because I think that they have just a small SE-Linux in the bootloader and then they can enforce all the rules they want. Your phone will behave
basically like a jailed Unix-account and the only success in cracking it is to prevent it to load. There is no other way.
I just sent a long and nice mail to Samsung. Will see if they contact me tomorrow.
I basically asked them why it's enforced on us private citizens and if we should start to openly question the motives on Samsung in different
mobile user forums. Because I will. Would be happy if someone would follow suit and help out.
Bad publicity is something that is hard to get rid off. Also, we never got an opt-in/out.
And if they start to get it it WILL scare them. I've done that before but not on this scale.
If need be I will drag them through our Consumer department. They are not so fun if they bite on the case and it just cost me time to write a letter of complaint to them.
"Freedom loving" Sweden will not accept spy-ware on their phones. That is one of the strong thing here. Consumer power and the equivalent for governmental issues.
Well, I'll report tomorrow. Btw, I got my new phone yesterday and it was a I9506.
They don't sell the I9505 anymore and the prel result with plain kernel is that it's about the same speed as Note 3.
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This link should shed some light on the qfuse situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30781353
I believe this is specifically for the i9506 as the qualcomm chip in yours is a different prefix (though they are very similar in construction to my novice eye, the boot process is still a bit magical to me though so grain of salt all that.)
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This link should shed some light on the qfuse situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30781353
I believe this is specifically for the i9506 as the qualcomm chip in yours is a different prefix (though they are very similar in construction to my novice eye, the boot process is still a bit magical to me though so grain of salt all that.)
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Actually they hotted up the phone quite much: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5542&idPhone2=5371
Snapdragon 800, Adreno 330, Krait 400 @ 2,3 Mhz. Antutu places it next to Note 3 so it whops quite much.
Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
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Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
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That is interesting that they reflashed the stock firmware without negating your warrenty coverage for the tripped knox flag.
The question is were they supposed to do that or did they just screw up?
Thanks for sharing that!
Please follow the next thrilling episode in the Samsung-Zone... --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48077682&postcount=1350
And about the reflash. They have offered that to me too if I "happen" to trip the Knox. So e-fuse, no e-fuse. Duck. I don't know what to think anymore.
As someone who's mother accepted the update to MI1 a few days ago, would contacting Samsung be a way to possibly downgrade the baseband?
Where in Samsung would I contact for this?
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As someone who's mother accepted the update to MI1 a few days ago, would contacting Samsung be a way to possibly downgrade the baseband?
Where in Samsung would I contact for this?
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Goodluck! US Samsung told me to kick rocks. (hence why I am posting from a HTC one now.)
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Hi everyone!
I just want to share with you guys that I rooted my SGS i9505 with CF root and knox flag was tripped to 0x1.
I flashed the custom rom and i got bootloops and i tired of fixing that issiu. I went to Samsung service center in Dubai and they reflashed the MJ5 stock firmware.
Later when I checked in Download mode Knox flag it was 0x0. I guess I am lucky because I have my warranty back. Sorry for my bad English.
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just a few quesitons to you sir.
did you wait for some minutes or did it take some hour?
was it repaired or motherboard simply replaced?
if they reflash the firmware it looks to me they have a "restoreable" that will be reversible if you flash it, just to ask why didn't you ask him what he did
For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
Here's the problem. The broken and unsecure firmware affects every x201 Umeox makes. So it doesn't matter if it's a TS or a Callisto 100 or a Pearl AW-414/420/421. The firmware is broken on all of them. So it's not a TS issue, it a Umeox issue.
The unsecure status of the firmware is not a simple set ro.secure to 1 as it's already ro.secure=1. This is something completely different as even with that it still runs in an unsecured mode. Here's the thing, this has been an issue for over four months. If who ever is compiling the firmware can't fix this in four months, fire them.
Here's another example. The "EU 2100 working sensors" firmware I released was after ditching the Omate TS kernel and using one I was able to get my hands on from the Callisto 100. It is still not fixed in the official firmware and forces the end user to flash firmware to their device to get working sensors. Some of these folks have problems with even basic computer usage leaving it to independent devs to fix and provide technical support for a Umeox created problem with no direct access to the resources needed. At this time, iconBIT is the only one that even posts their firmware with at least partial change logs and makes it publicly accessible.
Now before the "different B2B partners require different setups" is said. All those changes are in the system partition. If anybody with a copy of SP Tool and two different firmware releases can can swap out the system partition images and make it flashable then there is no reason that Umeox can't do the same. You build one, maybe two, fully working base firmwares and have a system partition image with the needed changes for each of you B2B partners. This eliminates having to build a full firmware for every individual model for every B2B partner.
I'm burnt out from supporting ALL your B2B partners customers as well as KS backers, trying to fix broken firmware with little resources on top of trying to have a life with my family.
So it comes down to this. Umeox either needs to fix the problems they created or ditch there own firmware and replace it with properly supported, secure and working firmware or I will not be coming back. This doesn't apply to just the TS but all x201s being sold.
I will continue to update the [INFO] Everything for folks but as far as any active development on any x201 running broken Umeox firmware. I'm done.
Just for the record, I can understand your frustration (and I've just been following along the story, I still haven't even gotten my KS reward watch yet), and think you've gone above and beyond the call of duty on this one. That you've had to do it in your spare time, and acted as an intercessionary figure between the "manufacturers" (particularly Omate) and the public is an incredible act of generousity towards the end users, and I don't know about everyone else, but I appreciate it; it was one of the few bright lights shining in an increasingly murky and regret-tinged Kickstarter backing.
So thank you, Lokifish, for your hard work, and if I should ever meet you in person, first round's on me.
@Lokifish Marz
Mate - you are totally right and I support you.
You were here, buying devicesand fixing their faults...why?
You worked so they could relax?
All developers should stop everything related to Umex - I'm sure someone will finally react...
You/we could offer support and help but that's not our company and our obligation, especially if they totally ignore they obligation and don't offer any support...
Two years...yeah...my a*s
I still haven't got my device - early October devs edition (O.K that's Omate, but still) and when it finally arrive in may I should work "for them" - NO, ABSOLUTELY NO
Such thing like that what LLP said - to use custom ROM, and to said that to all who wants working device is ridiculous and wrong...
O.K for us backers, that's KS but some guys actually ordered and paid that watch in "store"...
O.K now I'm talking about Omate but I understand what you are saying and support you, actually I'm not supporting you, I beg you - stop with support - they must get what is their job and obligation.
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For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
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Disappointed by your decision Lokifish but fully understand your reasons, haven't received my TS yet and so haven't really benefited from your work. But without the work you have done that device won't succeed, not sure it will succeed at all now unless Umeox take note and act on this.
Thanks again for the work you've put into this, and just to emphasize and echo your priorities; THERE'S NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN FAMILY.
Totally support you.
It's always a difficult decision whether withdrawing will force vendors to get their act together or redoubling efforts to engage will get results from vendors. You really can't know.
But you can make yourself happy, and that's what counts the most.
Thank You!
Lokifish Marz said:
For all to see and understand why I've stepped away from the Umeox x201.
Here's the problem. The broken and unsecure firmware affects every x201 Umeox makes. So it doesn't matter if it's a TS or a Callisto 100 or a Pearl AW-414/420/421. The firmware is broken on all of them. So it's not a TS issue, it a Umeox issue.
The unsecure status of the firmware is not a simple set ro.secure to 1 as it's already ro.secure=1. This is something completely different as even with that it still runs in an unsecured mode. Here's the thing, this has been an issue for over four months. If who ever is compiling the firmware can't fix this in four months, fire them.
Here's another example. The "EU 2100 working sensors" firmware I released was after ditching the Omate TS kernel and using one I was able to get my hands on from the Callisto 100. It is still not fixed in the official firmware and forces the end user to flash firmware to their device to get working sensors. Some of these folks have problems with even basic computer usage leaving it to independent devs to fix and provide technical support for a Umeox created problem with no direct access to the resources needed. At this time, iconBIT is the only one that even posts their firmware with at least partial change logs and makes it publicly accessible.
Now before the "different B2B partners require different setups" is said. All those changes are in the system partition. If anybody with a copy of SP Tool and two different firmware releases can can swap out the system partition images and make it flashable then there is no reason that Umeox can't do the same. You build one, maybe two, fully working base firmwares and have a system partition image with the needed changes for each of you B2B partners. This eliminates having to build a full firmware for every individual model for every B2B partner.
I'm burnt out from supporting ALL your B2B partners customers as well as KS backers, trying to fix broken firmware with little resources on top of trying to have a life with my family.
So it comes down to this. Umeox either needs to fix the problems they created or ditch there own firmware and replace it with properly supported, secure and working firmware or I will not be coming back. This doesn't apply to just the TS but all x201s being sold.
I will continue to update the [INFO] Everything for folks but as far as any active development on any x201 running broken Umeox firmware. I'm done.
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:good: Thank you sir for all you have done, even with all the BS from backers, OEM's & general support help requests. I hope someday they will just release all info on anything using Umeox.
I have just received my shipment from TS today & now read you are out, I wish you return someday.
Thanks for what you have done. Just got my TS the other day, so aside from the minor stuff I have figured out, not yet comfortable giving big time advice.
I do thank you for the patch & the root. Helps those out who do need it.
Good luck with your endeavors. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for. I am sure there will always be some of us here.
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:good: Thank you sir for all you have done, even with all the BS from backers, OEM's & general support help requests. I hope someday they will just release all info on anything using Umeox.
I have just received my shipment from TS today & now read you are out, I wish you return someday.
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They know what they need to do. It's a matter of will they do it and how long will they take. Til then I'm just a guy updating the info index thread and popping in from time to time.
I'm selling my watch to someone who has the patience. Loki you have been a great help to us all Thank you.
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This is an absolute travesty
But thank you for all you have done!
Sad to see you go before I even got my Omate. But as everyone else has said, I completely understand your reasons. Thanks so much for all your hard work
Thank you.
Thank you for all your work. Selfishly, I am very sad to see you leave the project, but support and understand your reasons. All the best with your baby girl.:good:
Thanks for all your work. Hope to see you back if they ever get sorted out.
Hi Locki, said to see you go but I am sure you will be back soon. Bin there, done that.
Some other company I will not mention did the same. Well, eventually they stopped production for 6 months due to well, uhmm, me making some phone calls and writing the detailed truth on forums. Got a personal call from EMEA production manager (which I didn't even knew) a few days later to solve this "problem". And we did. I am sure something like that will happen with you.
And if not, then OmateUmeox will soon be just another startup who failed big time and LLP will have a lot to think of.
But they are not stupid, money will soon be running out otherwise.
If we (Backers, supporters, owners of a Umeox/TS/Pearl whatever) want Locki back and want a good Firmware then it's up to US (as in WE) to make that happen. Locki's leaving is a big sign to LLP, Umeox and whoever is involved. And to us it's the same big sign.
Let's give back what Locki did for us and what Locki's intention still are. We all want a better product.
WE can make a difference. Let's get creative and find ways how we can convince Omate/LLP/Umeox that this is NOT how we want to continue.
WE made the TS by funding it. So WE have the power to do that too.
Thanks Lokifish, seriously. I don't have my TS yet, but I am relying on your patches and stuff to get it working properly when I do get it.
Thank you very much for your hard work, and though it's sad to see you go, I can totally see why it has happen. Take care and enjoy the time with your family =D
I am really greatful for all Locki's work, but now what? What can WE do? What's Laurent LePen plans? Where can I get any information about what's cooking?
I'm still providing low level support but deving has stopped. there is only so much that can be done with the current firmware. Until source code is obtained from MediaTek, do not expect to see any CM/AOSP/AOKP releases. At least for now folks on the patch or are properly rooted are safe. I know it's not perfect but please keep in mind the ROMs and MODs of any sort are a very rare thing on Mediatek powered devices.
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I'm still providing low level support but deving has stopped. there is only so much that can be done with the current firmware. Until source code is obtained from MediaTek, do not expect to see any CM/AOSP/AOKP releases. At least for now folks on the patch or are properly rooted are safe. I know it's not perfect but please keep in mind the ROMs and MODs of any sort are a very rare thing on Mediatek powered devices.
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thanks a lot,
I guess my lesson will unfortunatly be never buy a Mediatek device, never again. I got a nexus 4 with OmniROM on it, and I thought something similar could eventually be possible on my TS. Anyone knows where can I transmit my disappointement to Mediatek and let them know that for this prevoius reason, I will never their product again?