Well, our Samsung Galaxy Star is a low end phone, initially it runs well (as it seems ) but eventually android experience becomes AWFUL. Like the phone app takes about 5-10s time to open, and then after calling it takes 4-5s to initiate the call, which is really annoying. It falters even in the basic functionalities of a phone. So things need to be faster.
Rooting is always an option, but why not make it with Google's way
Following Steps/Suggestions should do the job -
Try disabling some default apps like Google Play Music, Play Movies, Play Books, Play Games (if on a newer firmware), Samsung Apps, Samsung account etc. But do not disable basic apps (although you wont be able to disable some).
Do not clear memory from the task manager, if done so, things might slow up. (I eventually forgot the presence of such app ).
It is not recommended to use task killer type apps.
If you wish to use antivirus, use TrustGo, its a memory efficeient and a good antivirus.
It is not recommended to use the Facebook app (although the latest one is quite good). Use the messenger instead.
Keep only apps that are necessary. Do not keep useless app or remove such apps if it becomes useless from time to time.
Avoid keeping too many widgets in the Homescreen
Result -
Smoother and quite lag free User Interface
You will be less annoyed
Games will be more smoother (Example - Temple Run 2 lags a lot when run in normal set up, but after optimizing the phone with respect to this post, it was almost lag free and huge scores can be easily made. Same goes for FIFA 14).
Q. Too many sacrifices? Why?
Ans. Don't forget you are using a low end android. Want better performance without such sacrifices, spend more bucks and get a better android or root your phone
If I have helped, please give vote of thanks
If u really get annoyed really angry u dont have to continue getting pissed
Instead rooting will solve 90 % and much less sacrifices
Rooting is easier than optimizing unrooted
And warranty? Bah who cares about that.
So there is NO advantage of keeping this phone unrooted
Actually its safer when rooted. The urge to throw away the phone to oblivion will end
Anyway this postatleast helps the ppl who dont want to root but do evrything else
Also a lot of unrooted users reported tht greenify wrks havent tried though
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And never use messenger it will hunt ur phone down to the slowest garbage on earth
There is a great fb alternative gonna post it in app section
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T3snake said:
If u really get annoyed really angry u dont have to continue getting pissed
Instead rooting will solve 90 % and much less sacrifices
Rooting is easier than optimizing unrooted
And warranty? Bah who cares about that.
So there is NO advantage of keeping this phone unrooted
Actually its safer when rooted. The urge to throw away the phone to oblivion will end
Anyway this postatleast helps the ppl who dont want to root but do evrything else
Also a lot of unrooted users reported tht greenify wrks havent tried though
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And never use messenger it will hunt ur phone down to the slowest garbage on earth
There is a great fb alternative gonna post it in app section
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Yup he's right!! My Star's warranty is til 2015 and I don't really care about warranty etc.
Rooting is much safer than stock!!
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I meant it for those who don't want to root their phones. I have seen a lot of people who does not want to root his/her phone, but complains about slow UI.
Although rooting is as easy as it seems, some people think the negative side of it. (Well, majority in my area).
Also, I felt messenger was a bit better than the facebook app. And often, using a 3rd party client results in security issues (rare though).
That post was for non rooted users who dont want to take risk (when there is none since there is no hassle for bootloader) but want their phone to work wonders.
allmost all my friends have android but only 10% are intelligent enough to google themselves understand how good rooting is
others argue about the warranty which they would never use anyway and wonder y my phone is faster than their phones which cost double of what my phone is. 50% call me an idiot but i pity them as they touch their screens for a long long time just to see the time from the lockscreen.
and most people dont know what rooting is but just assume it to be a false solution. So they defend themselves using the most invalid arguments ever. (If u root ur phone, apps will stop installing / it doesnt work / rooting only uninstalls all system apps but i want them / Touchwiz is the best i dont want to change it by rooting / I will root after warranty )
and when i tell them about features i have but they dont evry1 says because u are rooted. But noone told u not to root its your fault tht u are missing those features and my phone is more useful than yours.
Okay i guess thats enough
Most people think warranty is some sort of insurance or something.. They have'nt read the warranty policy nor went to a service center to claim a warranty. Infact they haven't read the first paragraph.
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS LIMITED (hereinafter referred to as 'the company') guarantees to the purchaser that this product carries a warranty for the period mentioned below, commencing from the date of purchase. The company will repair or replace free of charge any part or parts of the product , if the defect is due to the fault material or workmanship. Warranty involves repairing of defective product/parts and does not entitle purchaser for the replacement of complete product.
So that says it, warranty doesn't apply for accidental damage or misuse of device. it only applies to manufacturation flaws.
And don't wanna read the whole warranty? Here's some points that's intresting..
THIS WARRANTY IS NOT APPLICABLE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CASES:
The product is not used according to instructions given in the instruction manual.
Who reads the f***ing instruction manual??
Defects caused by improper use as determined by the company personnel.
Well, yeah. define proper use then?
Site (premises where the product is kept) conditions that do not confirm to the recommended operating conditions of the machine.
Umm, i don't keep my phone near crocodiles, is that enough??
The original serial number is removed, obliterated or altered from the machine or cabinet.
But but, I only pulled the sticker..
Defects due to cause beyond control like lightning, abnormal voltage, acts of God or while in transit to service centre or purchaser's residence.
Okay, I understand lighting and voltage.. but acts of God, seriously??
And yeah, that too isn't enough. You have to pass a warranty test.
It will cost <insert some money according to your device> to test if it is a warranty issuse. If it is a warranty issue then you will only have to pay for labor, the parts will be free. If it's not a warranty issue, and the problem was caused by any other means than of manufacturation flaw, then you will have to pay for the labor plus the parts,
So, if a $5 part was damaged due to false soldering. you got warranty and you passed the warranty test ,you will be paying them 10 times of that to get it fixed. well. that's really smart of you.
To add to tht most people like me didnt fill up the warranty card which was supposed to be filled within 2 weeks of purchase so most probably most people are in a illusion of reassurance thinking they are safe because of warranty
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T3snake said:
That post was for non rooted users who dont want to take risk (when there is none since there is no hassle for bootloader) but want their phone to work wonders.
allmost all my friends have android but only 10% are intelligent enough to google themselves understand how good rooting is
others argue about the warranty which they would never use anyway and wonder y my phone is faster than their phones which cost double of what my phone is. 50% call me an idiot but i pity them as they touch their screens for a long long time just to see the time from the lockscreen.
and most people dont know what rooting is but just assume it to be a false solution. So they defend themselves using the most invalid arguments ever. (If u root ur phone, apps will stop installing / it doesnt work / rooting only uninstalls all system apps but i want them / Touchwiz is the best i dont want to change it by rooting / I will root after warranty )
and when i tell them about features i have but they dont evry1 says because u are rooted. But noone told u not to root its your fault tht u are missing those features and my phone is more useful than yours.
Okay i guess thats enough
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Haha You're Right I have Seen Enough of people who dont know about rooting. some people even dont know how to use android.. they just keep asking too many questions ..
Yeah
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i clear ram from task manager at least 50 times a day.
My phoner never gotten slower..
And yeah.
u didnt post anything about using greenify.
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Hi,
I just got home my Samsung Galaxy II, and i am thinking about rooting it.I want to know if it gets better or more worse( for example the battery)
But can anybody tell me the positive things and the negative affects of rooting the phone?
\You only root for access to administration rights on OS . You dont root if you do not use apps that dont need root .
Root has nothing to do with battery at all .
Root or custom roms void warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
jje
JJEgan said:
\You only root for access to administration rights on OS . You dont root if you do not use apps that dont need root .
Root has nothing to do with battery at all .
Root or custom roms void warranty
jje
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Here. But if you put back the stock ROM and kernel before servicing and use a USB Jig to reset the ROM counter I don't think they will understand that it was rooted, so in that case it shouldn't void your warranty.
Regards.
Before you root... have a reason to do it. Don't just root so you can say you've done it. You're better off leaving things in a warranty state as long as you can.
There is no negative to root, only positive. Root gives you added functionality and features with zero downsides.
but if i dont root, can i still download good free apps? or is it only bad apps if i dont root?
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but if i dont root, can i still download good free apps? or is it only bad apps if i dont root?
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There are tons of great apps. Just browse the Android Market. A small portion of those require rooting.
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This is not neccessarily true. Danish consumer law, which is derived from a European Union directive imposes a mandatory 24 month warranty period. Naturally it does not cover third party software such as Lite'ning or Villain, but unless rooting or flashing is the cause of the failure, the warranty still applies. Since software cannot physically break, the primary use of a warranty is in the event of hardware failure, where the warranty still applies - despite flashing/rooting.
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This is not neccessarily true. Danish consumer law, which is derived from a European Union directive imposes a mandatory 24 month warranty period. Naturally it does not cover third party software such as Lite'ning or Villain, but unless rooting or flashing is the cause of the failure, the warranty still applies. Since software cannot physically break, the primary use of a warranty is in the event of hardware failure, where the warranty still applies - despite flashing/rooting.
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Yes, that's true, if you wanted to be 100% clear and honest about issues and what causes them. Your provider, however, will disagree. They will say "You've installed custom firmware on your device. That means we aren't responsible for any problems." which I totally understand, despite the fact that a problem is usually nothing to do with this!
Only root if you can live with the consequence of bricking your phone. If that won't be the end of the world for you, then root because you learn so much about Android doing so and you can have so much more fun with your phone. But if you can't, stay away because you will have occasions when things go wrong and you will wish you had left your perfectly fine phone alone.
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Yes, that's true, if you wanted to be 100% clear and honest about issues and what causes them. Your provider, however, will disagree. They will say "You've installed custom firmware on your device. That means we aren't responsible for any problems." which I totally understand, despite the fact that a problem is usually nothing to do with this!
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I understand that flashing could give a shady retailer an opportunity to BS it's way out of it's liabilities, if the customer is not familiar with law and processes.
Because if a retailer denied me a repair, I know the exact buttons to push to bring sense into his head.
I don't know about the UK, but in Denmark we have an authority called the Consumer Appeals Committee that adresses complaints from consumers. It requires a £20 deposit to file a complaint, a fee that will be refunded unless you lose the complaint. If you win, the retailer must follow the verdict and additionally pay a £1600 processing fee. The mere risk of of losing a case at the appeals committee and paying the processing fee is usually enough to bring the retailer on track.
Ok, so if i dont root, it is better if i get a problem with the phone and wants to change it or something.I dont think im gonna root because i can get some good free apps.
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Ok, so if i dont root, it is better if i get a problem with the phone and wants to change it or something.I dont think im gonna root because i can get some good free apps.
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When you need an app that needs root then root .
If you can unroot return to stock and clear the rom counter then you should have something like a 99% chance of passing any inspection .
Its not the seller or repair man that voids warranty Samsung decide what they will repair or pay for repairing . Letters sent out clearly state they will not reimburse repairs for work on phones with custom roms or rooted .Repair centre guy though has the choice if he so wants to ignore custom rom and just flash a stock rom without saying a word to Samsung .
jje
Personally, if you're perfectly ok with your phone the way it is, don't root it. It looks to me like you don't need the things rooting provides and you haven't needed an app that requires root access.
Also, rooting can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. I suggest getting familiar with your phone before venturing into root. Although its an exciting world once you step through that door.
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Does rooting the phone (which I understand gives me administrator rights) give access to more settings options? Other than being able to install some more apps, are there any other benefits? I'd really appreciate some examples..
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Does rooting the phone (which I understand gives me administrator rights) give access to more settings options? Other than being able to install some more apps, are there any other benefits? I'd really appreciate some examples..
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Rooting really has nothing to do with being able to use different apps, or free apps. Rooting is all about getting more function out of your phone, more settings from a good ROM, new features like enabled FM radio and things like that. Apps aren't really relevant. You can go get pirated apps from anywhere and don't need root for that.
Root is about gaining admin rights to your hardware to do anything and hack it to death.
I see. I am running a standard ROM, I'm on O2 in the UK. What extra features will rooting unlock?
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DO IT. END OF.
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I figure with apple it's a lost cause to begin with. I guess it's just how they want it. they want to limit the people to what they deem is good enough for iOS
but google and AOSP on the other hand...
it's an open enviroment with the source code publicly available.
why won't google allow the devices to come pre rooted?
it's like buying a windows PC, but you can't access the windows folder, or linux with no root access (no sudo)
It makes me think because of possible security breaches and possible lawsuits? but if that's the case, it would have happened with linux and windows machines that allow root access...
just got me curious...
what's the method to the madness here?
Its up to carriers and OEMs. Google has no say in the matter. On Nexus phones it is damn easy to root phones and the Nexus One practically was prerooted.
Google doesnt stop anyone from selling phones prerooted, in fact, I would assume they encourage it.
I've been wondering this for a while now actually.
I think I'd be tempted to punch the poor guy who sold me a windows computer with no admin access..
Why do we (as a culture) not get outraged we aren't suppose to have full access to our phones?
Being totally honest here.. the "you could mess something up" logic doesn't work for me..Try telling any computer user who has had to use admin access for *ANYTHING* that..
Agreed. Google really is a company for their consumers. As stated above I'd assume they'd have pre-rooted phones. Though, I wouldn't think it'd be up to the carrier, more so the manufacturer. The carrier usually has to do with their bloatware. HTC made a statement in May saying their new phones after said statment will have unlocked bootloaders (they haven't kept that by the way). Rooting is easy though, its just cracking though bootloaders that allows custom roms, now that's the issue, especially Motorola devices.
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perhaps when it's rooted, people will 'customize' it too much, causing too much warranty replacements, and the manuf doesn't wanna deal with it?
I assume they void this risk by making it so that it's hard and pita to root it, and causing void of warranty, so they aren't responsible when the phone is bricked.
but it's not like if I destroy my windows on my computer, dell will come and fix it. (they do provide the tech support though I think? I don't know)
problem is, we're a sue happy country. so... I think that has alot to do with it.
razorseal said:
perhaps when it's rooted, people will 'customize' it too much, causing too much warranty replacements, and the manuf doesn't wanna deal with it?
I assume they void this risk by making it so that it's hard and pita to root it, and causing void of warranty, so they aren't responsible when the phone is bricked.
but it's not like if I destroy my windows on my computer, dell will come and fix it. (they do provide the tech support though I think? I don't know)
problem is, we're a sue happy country. so... I think that has alot to do with it.
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youve pretty much nailed it. almost.
99% of PHONE users do not mod and do not need/should have access to things that can prevent their phone from working anymore.
Imagine just being some dumb-ass, who 'pocket dials' deleting system apps, or the phone.apk... or is 'deleting the garbage' in download folder.. BUT its NOT the download folder... oops!
but you are no normal dumb-ass, you own a multi-million dollar company, and you cant receive or make time sensitive calls!!!?? because you accidentally deleted important stuff in your pocket... that IS a law suit.
remember this is a PHONE, not a computer.
tabets you have a case...
There should be a option when you first boot (or reflash) more or less like this:
Do you want to root your phone?
Root is used by advanced users and developers. If you don't know what this means, press 'No'.
Yes////// No
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The biggest issue lies with the carriers and manufacturers, not Google. The carriers don't want you to use wireless tethering without paying them for it. The manufacturers don't want to replace phones broken by some idiot that doesn't know how to read.
I agree that most users don't know what root is and have no business modifying system files. However, it would be nice if all phones were as easy to root as Nexus phones. Just OEM unlock and be done with it. Unfortunately folks would catch on and tethering would skyrocket. The carriers can't have that.
There's also the issue of malicious apps. On a non-rooted phone, an app can only access so much data and its permissions are laid out in plain text upon install. On a rooted phone, an app without any permissions can access the same data. People are used to always accepting when Windows prompts them for admin access, and they'd do the same when prompted for Superuser access. I wish all of the root methods released, specifically the automated ones, required you to pass a test before rooting. There are too many people rooting their phones and then getting into a jam because they were too lazy to read.
I feel like the number of uneducated root users would drop if carriers and manufacturers would do a few things. If carriers made tethering plans affordable, people wouldn't root just for that reason. If manufacturers made bloatware uninstallable - not stuff like phone.apk or systemui.apk, but the apps that can be downloaded from the market or aren't necessary for the phone to run - then less people would root for that reason. You'd also get less obnoxious reviews on the market saying "omfg like I can't uninstall it you suck I'd give it zero stars if I could" that lower the rating on well developed apps.
Okay, end rant.
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plainjane said:
There's also the issue of malicious apps. On a non-rooted phone, an app can only access so much data and its permissions are laid out in plain text upon install. On a rooted phone, an app without any permissions can access the same data. People are used to always accepting when Windows prompts them for admin access, and they'd do the same when prompted for Superuser access.
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Agreed, with a rooted phone you'll definitely have a less secure system if you don't know how to use it correctly. This point alone makes it not worth to give root access to normal users imo. I'm an app developer and I can say that I manage fine without a rooted phone and I have absolutely no need to root either, so far...
I can add that I don't live in US either so I don't know what kind of limitations you are bypassing there by rooting but that WiFi tethering is no problem for me without root access.
Hello to everyone!
Maybe it's a stupid, noob question, but I googled for this without success.
And even a search in these forums was not helping, so... let's start!
It's saturday morning here and I start my weekend in one of the most disappointing ways...
Some minutes ago, my Galaxy Note showed a red icon in the status bar. I checked it, and it was Zoner antivirus. Hooray!
The malware that it found was exploit.AndroidOS.Lootor.A, and I don't know what it is, but it really sounds bad.
The disappointment went worse when I discovered that the malware (according to this antivirus) was in the latest Superuser update. Something I'm not going to uninstall without thinking twice.
What should I do? I think I'm going to follow my elephant-phone's suggestion and uninstall the update, since it's telling me that I can use "the original version" (at least, in Italian the message I see means literally that).
If you tell me -as I think- that it is just a false positive, I'll be happy to reinstall any update, but anyway I am asking for the opinion of more experienced users.
Thanks in advance!
PS: while I was writing here, there were some evolutions in this problem.
I followed the instructions and uninstalled some update (or at least the phone told me so).
Now it seems that Superuser should be uninstalled because it has inside
exploit.AndroidOS.GingerBreak.A
HELP!
I'm not going to uninstall superuser (I think I couldn't anyway), but I am worrying now!
PPS: ok googling exploit.AndroidOS.Gingerbreak.A I found that it is a false positive, so I assume that also exploit.AndroidOS.Lootor.A is safe... but I still would like some confirmations, I am quite new to Android and this is not the way I want to learn lol.
Virus scanners on android truly are pointless. They will pick up anything that changes the root permissions llike Super user or the root exploit. As long as your not using apks from iffy sites like 4shared or something you will be fine.
So how can we solve that?... I found a couple of apks on APPLANET that lead to a GAME CASINO on real market... Strange but that´s look like a virus to me...
Thank´s in advance.. Cem..
Don't use applanet unless your begging for a virus or to have your phone make calls to long distance numbers and send texts to paid account. Also no one on XDA will help you with any black market app markets.
zelendel said:
Virus scanners on android truly are pointless. They will pick up anything that changes the root permissions llike Super user or the root exploit. As long as your not using apks from iffy sites like 4shared or something you will be fine.
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I'm not expert enough yet to discuss your point, it just seemed weird to me since it is the very first problem I had with an android anti-malware software. I've run Superuser for something like two months without any warning...
Anyway it's solved now, even if not in the best way. Something messed up in my beloved phone when I rebooted it one moment after my last post... I had to re-synchronize all my accounts and to reinstall most of my apps, it seemed that my phone lost all app data.
Now it's ok (luckily, I've learned enough 'til now to bring it slowly back to normal) but the procedure was painful.
Great lesson here: wether you consider antimalware useful or not, don't rely on it more than on good ol' common sense!
PS: anyway, why are they pointless? Aren't they able to find possible problems? I've recently learned that "possible" problems aren't necessarily problems, but it seems strange to hear that they are useless... just an explanation please.
Always good to have a virus scanner on you're android mobile. Even i've you only downloading wrom the market it can be infected (Very small change). Nothing is secure in this world. Better to have protection one time to much then to have it to late. How more popular android is going to be, how more change you can have for infections. Even its still low. Lookout cost nothing and says nothing about my superuser and other rooting apps. I use it on my tablet and phone and it works great.
Recently read a test and no Antivirus App was able to find more 15% of the Viruses, plus they always slow my phone down.
Best solution for me is being cautious and checking permissions.
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i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
terminal 7 said:
i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
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Oh I have to agree. Too many people get Android because its cool and then they root because they think its cool. They should understand what they are doing before they make a choice for the OS on their phone.
If you think running Linux is too much trouble to run and keep up on your computer why would you run it on your phone when it takes just as much to keep up?
terminal 7 said:
i think it might be a good idea for all that root their devices to first understand the concept of a false posotive virus scan result
also it may be worth understanding that from anti virus software standpoint any alteration to system safety may be undesirable as its designed for the end user who doesnt even know what root is ..
increasingly android caters for 2 markets, the sort of people who come here and probably own about 30 devices including pcs tablets phones etc and love tech.
and the other market of people who own a pc with xp on it and one phone, only running android because thats what the salesman sold them - and not because they insisted on Android.
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Yes, but you know, I had the naive hope that an antivirus for Android should check if an app is going to do a bad use of the permissions I give to it.
I.E. : I see a game that requires internet connection for multiplayer. It's ok, isn't it? In a perfect world, an antivirus should check if that game is going to connect to its multiplayer server or to a bad one... (it's just an example, I think that important brands aren't likely to lose their reputation that way)
Anyway, would you suggest me to give Avast a try? At least, I've seen that it has decent anti-theft features...
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Yes, but you know, I had the naive hope that an antivirus for Android should check if an app is going to do a bad use of the permissions I give to it.
I.E. : I see a game that requires internet connection for multiplayer. It's ok, isn't it? In a perfect world, an antivirus should check if that game is going to connect to its multiplayer server or to a bad one... (it's just an example, I think that important brands aren't likely to lose their reputation that way)
Anyway, would you suggest me to give Avast a try? At least, I've seen that it has decent anti-theft features...
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Please receive this feedback as intended, respectfully and well meaning...
if your finding yourself having concerns when an anti virus flags up your rooted status and yet you still feel the need for an anti virus package i suggest you un-root and keep to a stock kernel - this way the anti virus software will inform you of any possible intrusion or system change.
if however you must have root i think you need to simply come to understand more about what the anti virus packages can do .. or actually what they are limited to doing - might i suggest spending some time learning about a popular linux distribution too as it will bring about a different frame of mind and then you will realize that the anti virus software flaging SuperUser as a virus is actually neither true or a false posotive .. its just working from a different set of perspectives to that of a confident root enabled computer user .
i hope this makes sense without coming across in the wrong way, i just really think people should learn from XDA and the devices they buy & come to XDA for help with .
Respect the info found at XDA -and its users, we all learn together here
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No malware in superuser app. Proceed
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super user by chainsdd has been around for a long time. and was developed to make being rooted easier, a lot easier. it gives you control over all files on your device. the developer is very trusted. no worries
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Thanks to every single user that chose to spend some time for this post.
I was kinda sure that Superuser had to be safe, but lack of experience made me fear that somehow I could have downloaded the wrong package, or something...
The weirdest thing, is that Superuser and antivirus have been there together for a while, so I wondered what on earth was happening.
Well, I've done a mistake and now I've learned something... it's ok.
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Please receive this feedback as intended, respectfully and well meaning...
if your finding yourself having concerns when an anti virus flags up your rooted status and yet you still feel the need for an anti virus package i suggest you un-root and keep to a stock kernel - this way the anti virus software will inform you of any possible intrusion or system change.
if however you must have root i think you need to simply come to understand more about what the anti virus packages can do .. or actually what they are limited to doing - might i suggest spending some time learning about a popular linux distribution too as it will bring about a different frame of mind and then you will realize that the anti virus software flaging SuperUser as a virus is actually neither true or a false posotive .. its just working from a different set of perspectives to that of a confident root enabled computer user .
i hope this makes sense without coming across in the wrong way, i just really think people should learn from XDA and the devices they buy & come to XDA for help with .
Respect the info found at XDA -and its users, we all learn together here
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This was interesting.
First of all, I am not offended at all and I don't understand how I could.
Well I could probably live without root (except for a couple of useful apps)... but I'm not going to un-root it for now.
I am a sturdy guy and I want to learn everything (everything I am interested into, I mean) about this OS. Trying and trying again, at the cost of some little problems if needed.
As for Linux, almost all my PCs have also it inside (win7 mostly for games), and I have never had a problem worth this name when using it. Never had something like an antivirus there, just some common sense and everything was fine.
I think I should have the same attitude towards Android as many of you have suggested. And I am willing to get some more info about android's antivirus limitations. Just because I'm curious.
Can you suggest some particular post here in xda?
Thanks again!
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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I've known for some time that the app permissions and data about us being sent to companies via our 'free' apps has always been scandelous. If you don't know about this, there are countless studies by reputable organisations, simply google it.
Like many of us here, I've owned a number of hot Xperia phones, and a few days ago got a new one! But, I updated an app, and when I opened it, I got a shock with how far the permissions are going. The updated app said note: we're going to collect this data about your device. The three pieces that pi**ed me off today are:
1. Phone number
2. Android device ID
3. Info. about all apps on phone
If you're famialiar with why Facebook is one of the greatest marketing successes of our time, then you probably, like me, like to protect your privacy on your phone. I don't think Google is all bad, and there are so many apps which help you in this regard.
Without voiding the warranty of my new phone, I cannot yet get root. I need root to install all sorts of apps which help protect me and my life. Would you tell a stranger on the street your name, age, what's on your phone, phone number, the sites you visit etc? I wouldn't do that. I'm frustrated right now, caught between saving my new warranty and not selling my life for a few stupid 'free' games. I think there is a misstep here. OK the manufacturers let us modify software at our own risk, but they sell the stories of our phones living in an app heaven/bountyland/happy place, but don't do anything to help us protect our privacy.
I agree with you completely. But there are methods to root your phone without unlocking the bootloader (if you still think they will discover, you just have to flash a stock firmware before taking to the store and done)
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Thanks buddy. I've tried all locked-bootloader roots available in this section, flashtool and others.
p.s. for anyone interested in one in this stuff, probably my favourite app (requires root) is LBE Privacy Guard. I used it on other Xperias and there's nothing it can't do!
Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow tinfoil hat alert...
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Wow, you can't post anything on this site without an irrelevant sarcastic answer.
Why can't you just root using this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Straight forward and quick. Then if you need to send your phone in just flash back to your standard stock firmware??
Thanks very much! I have tried that one though, and posted a report - it fails on my phone. It works for some phones (especially the S and P) but not on all the 2012 Sony phones. I've rooted a few phones before, so I check all the things you have to do and can't find the problem. No one with my phone has posted success with that tool so I doubt it's just me.
I seen in the data usage, some of the free apps have been upload a LOT of data, when they have no reason to e.g. a free live wallpaper. It makes me so angry I just want to nuke the software and not install anything new until root is sorted.
Can someone explain to me why root on a phone is forbidden?
I ask this because certain apps do not run when a phone is rooted.
But if you run something equal on Windows or Linux it's allright if you have administrator or even Enterprise rights...
I do not understand this...
Regards,
Phoenix007
well if they had the choice and foresight they probably would have created a restricted account for you even on a PC... but it's like oh shucks.... we give them full access to the OS well now let's not do it for mobile phones.
there are many reasons why rooting is restricted
-- reasons justified by the the manufacturer.
is that rooting changes their propriety apps and other information on the phone to the extent that modifying the system could hose the phone completely and therefore is a basis of denying warranty
-certain financial apps and other apps actually have code built into them that look for rooting and will stop working if the phone is rooted with the message that they will not work with rooted phone. there are workarounds in terms of fooling those apps that the phone is not rooted
-rooting gives user full access and if he does not know what is doing that can completely brick the phone which is in many cases is a v valid reason.... search for bricked phone threads on this forum and you see so many of them... though not all of them come from rooting the phone
now the real reason from user perspective
--a lot of Chinese phone manufacturers or even otherwise keep low level system apps running that collect your personal information
if you root a phone you have complete control of disabling any kind of app that's out there that you don't feel is working in your interest and you can basically throw away all those garbage apps that you don't feel have any value but the phone manufacturer wants to keep them
glaring example is Knox in Samsung phones. that app keeps running all the time and most of the time people don't need it.
-if you root a phone you can completely wipe out the stock OS supplied by the manufacturer and put in any kind of OS you want that is compatible
- phone manufacturer like Samsung has tied up with your carrier example t mobile and many a times business model needs that phone should work only with those certain carriers and not with any other carrier or outside that region so it becomes necessary to limit your access to the phone
-it's like the phone company is telling you you pay the cost of the phone and you rented from me. how much is the monthly rent ? $0 pm.... but you still rent it.... phone is not yours (=rooted )
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