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I'm classified as a noob, but have been reading over this forum for about two months now trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have learned a lot. But I don't really learn until I do "it". Unfortunitly I'm probably one of the last people in North America who doesn't own a PC, therefore I can't just do "it". Too, many bills, mortgage, etc...a PC purchase isn't possible at the moment. I have access to multiple PC's, but I can't really use any except for my parents to do rooting stuff...but they live 2.5hrs away.
So, my question today is... other then the initial root, what "mods" require a PC? Messing around in the file explorer I have on my phone, I see that if I was rooted that I could open the files I currently can't. And be able to see the code in the "notes" style that it's written.... through the "notes" style app viewer I have. So after I rooted, could I open say... the folders containing Ciq files, alter/delete them through my phone, then restart my phone and not have Ciq anymore? I see that I can flash kernals and roms straight through the phone, but if I wanted to "mod" the stock rom a bit...well, I wasn't sure if that was possible or not. Not sure if it matters, but I'm also hboot 1.5
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I'm classified as a noob, but have been reading over this forum for about two months now trying to gain as much knowledge as possible. I have learned a lot. But I don't really learn until I do "it". Unfortunitly I'm probably one of the last people in North America who doesn't own a PC, therefore I can't just do "it". Too, many bills, mortgage, etc...a PC purchase isn't possible at the moment. I have access to multiple PC's, but I can't really use any except for my parents to do rooting stuff...but they live 2.5hrs away.
So, my question today is... other then the initial root, what "mods" require a PC? Messing around in the file explorer I have on my phone, I see that if I was rooted that I could open the files I currently can't. And be able to see the code in the "notes" style that it's written.... through the "notes" style app viewer I have. So after I rooted, could I open say... the folders containing Ciq files, alter/delete them through my phone, then restart my phone and not have Ciq anymore? I see that I can flash kernals and roms straight through the phone, but if I wanted to "mod" the stock rom a bit...well, I wasn't sure if that was possible or not. Not sure if it matters, but I'm also hboot 1.5
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netbooks are very cheap. pretty decent models brand new with 6 hrs battery life around $299 on newegg/dell. i have one i've done java android application coding on in eclipse. there are also cheap/used laptops on ebay for under $100.
you can do a lot of things from the device but having a PC is probably best for keeping backups, editing/modifying files, decompiling/recompiling for ROM tweaks and coding.
i do mostly all my device modification over adb (android debug bridge) with the device including app installing, logcat for debugging/troubleshooting, shell for testing and mods, etc.
hope that helps!
I understand using a PC is preferred, crap I prefer it. I'm super tight with my budget right now, new house, f-ing credit cards, student loans, propane, child support, my wife....I just can't get one yet. Hoping after the new year. I plan on rooting and running stock rom until I get a good grasp of everything. But I wanted to do a couple mods (remove HTC and Android spy-ware mainly). It seemed like it could be done through the phone, but I wasn't sure.
To tell you the Truth since I used my computer to Root my phone I Haven't really even needed it again... And I'm Constantly doing things to my phone!!
I unlocked the bootloader from Sony. How can I root it?
stephenyu said:
I unlocked the bootloader from Sony. How can I root it?
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You need to flash a custom kernel.
Thankfully, DooMLoRD is awesome and supportive.
Ricky D said:
You need to flash a custom kernel.
Thankfully, DooMLoRD is awesome and supportive.
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THanks
I flashed it. The tablet cannot power on
stephenyu said:
I flashed it. The tablet cannot power on
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Someone tell me why I am not surprised at all... :/
To be a bit more constructive: It's a real common problem - "root experts" usually use a kind of secret language when talking about root issues and how-to instructions.
A novice doesn't have much of a chance understanding the tech talk emerging, is quite prone to brick his device; see above.
That's why root commonly remains a secret of the experts, does not become a wide-spread everyday method.
And that's a bad thing ! - Why ?
- If more "plain normal" users were able to root their devices the easy way, more "plain normal" users would actually do.
- If more users root their devices, there would be some more positive pressure on manufacturers about helping with these things.
- If more users can root their devices, more users are willing to donate some money to developers.
- More root users build a stronger community, preventing manufacturers like Samsung trying to prohibit rooting at all costs.
Of course I know the disadvantage: Google wouldn't like that too much because more users would be able to block advertizing and forced Google services and bloatware, would be able to avoid idiotic things like that infamous SD write prohibition introduced with Android 4.4.
So Google might try to fight rooting even more.
Understood.
But Google would realize there's a growing need in the community. And if needs of a broad mass of users won't get satisfied, Google would lose a great deal of customers in the long run.
If we remain a tiny group of root supporters, we'll get ignored more and more. And one day, the chances to root will be gone forever: Because the broad community just doesn't do rooting - and manufacturers won't give a sh... on the ever-shrinking group of root lovers.
So a sound balance might do the trick: Slowly introduce the "secrets" of rooting to the community, in a simple way everybody's able to cope with, slowly create a steadily growing community of people which can make themselves heard.
No more "secret language", no more incomprehensible abbreviations - just plain normal step-by-step instructions so just everybody will be able to root. If he wants to.
This wouldn't start an avalanche of users turning their faces to rooting their devices, but could help building up a larger community Google and other manufacturers just cannot afford to ignore.
If rooting stays a secret method for just a fistful of enlighted adepts (and a far larger mass of users just pretending to know what it's all about), manufacturers are going to lock up their devices more and more.
Just think about Samsung; Knox, Region lock, eFuse...
Things will get very, very bad over time.
Just think about it.
Chefproll said:
Someone tell me why I am not surprised at all... :/
To be a bit more constructive: It's a real common problem - "root experts" usually use a kind of secret language when talking about root issues and how-to instructions.
A novice doesn't have much of a chance understanding the tech talk emerging, is quite prone to brick his device; see above.
That's why root commonly remains a secret of the experts, does not become a wide-spread everyday method.
And that's a bad thing ! - Why ?
- If more "plain normal" users were able to root their devices the easy way, more "plain normal" users would actually do.
- If more users root their devices, there would be some more positive pressure on manufacturers about helping with these things.
- If more users can root their devices, more users are willing to donate some money to developers.
- More root users build a stronger community, preventing manufacturers like Samsung trying to prohibit rooting at all costs.
Of course I know the disadvantage: Google wouldn't like that too much because more users would be able to block advertizing and forced Google services and bloatware, would be able to avoid idiotic things like that infamous SD write prohibition introduced with Android 4.4.
So Google might try to fight rooting even more.
Understood.
But Google would realize there's a growing need in the community. And if needs of a broad mass of users won't get satisfied, Google would lose a great deal of customers in the long run.
If we remain a tiny group of root supporters, we'll get ignored more and more. And one day, the chances to root will be gone forever: Because the broad community just doesn't do rooting - and manufacturers won't give a sh... on the ever-shrinking group of root lovers.
So a sound balance might do the trick: Slowly introduce the "secrets" of rooting to the community, in a simple way everybody's able to cope with, slowly create a steadily growing community of people which can make themselves heard.
No more "secret language", no more incomprehensible abbreviations - just plain normal step-by-step instructions so just everybody will be able to root. If he wants to.
This wouldn't start an avalanche of users turning their faces to rooting their devices, but could help building up a larger community Google and other manufacturers just cannot afford to ignore.
If rooting stays a secret method for just a fistful of enlighted adepts (and a far larger mass of users just pretending to know what it's all about), manufacturers are going to lock up their devices more and more.
Just think about Samsung; Knox, Region lock, eFuse...
Things will get very, very bad over time.
Just think about it.
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I think you misunderstand the situation a little. Google does encourage rooting within the developer community, it is how they ensure a good app developer base. They've made the android SDK easier and more accessible than ever in recent years to support that, not to mention the introduction of Nexus devices was with the sole intention of offering developers a base 'common' software and hardware on which to develop.
There is no secret language, only a vocabulary specific to these processes. Imagine approaching Windows with a absolutlely no idea what it is, how it works in the background and no developer experience. It'd be easy to confuse the registry with a secret book of coded language, approaching android with no android development experience is exactly the same. Windows don't make it easy for the 'common person' to understand because these things are open to tampering and security flaws.
The same goes for android, rooting and unlocking the bootloader. If you're not careful you can get stung (I've 'broke' my Windows system many times by simple stupid things), but if you read up and take some time to understand there is no secret to it.
Er...
First: The rooting of the Z2 tablet is not complicated. It consists of just flashing SuperSU via CWM. Very easy.
A bit more complicated (but not really) is getting CWM on the tablet.
The most complicated part is the unlocking of the bootloader. And this is a Sony thing.
So to say "rooting is complicated" is in fact wrong.
Second: Rooting a device is something that brings certain problems and security dangers. A rooted device must be handled with a certain care and awareness. So it's absolutely ok that only people who are willing to invest a certain amount of brain power and time are able to root.
No one wants more noobs who flood forums with complaints why their rooted phones don't work anymore ore were hacked!
Ricky and Hasenbein: You got me a bit wrong... (But if I write late at night, it might be easy getting me wrong. )
You both know how rooting is done, I know. Unrooted Android devices are just like cars you're not allowed to open the hood or even the trunk; short: unbearable.
I am a former software developer, and a professional technical writer and perception psychologist - maybe this helps you a bit understanding my points of view.
First: I really don't like calling novices "noobs". The term "noob" has a negative connotation, it's a typical four-letter-word, a cuss word. Thus "newbies" are quite reluctant asking for vital information - just because they don't want to be called a noob. So they don't ask - and then brick their devices. Just see this thread as a real-world example.
We all were "noobs" at the beginning.
But we read and read, spent lots of hours with the topic, we tried and failed and sweared till we finally succeeded. Or not.
So we walked quite some miles. Because we had sufficient time and commitment for doing so. And because we already had a bunch of experience with other devices up our sleeves. So we're part of a quite small group of people having the needed background knowledge.
Others don't.
Shouldn't we help them a bit ? If we do, more users could enjoy the benefits of a rooted device - without having to ask "noobish" questions or bricking their devices, forcing them to ask more "noobish" questions - and shining a bad light on rooting: "Rooting is dangerous".
No, it is not. If people exactly know what they have to do, and what to avoid.
So why don't we tell them ? - Using a language everybody can understand.
Result: More root users = less "noobish" questions = less bricked devices = less fear of rooting.
And: More root users = more money donations for developers = more incentives for developers = more and better root applications, faster development.
It's simple.
Ok, we took the long way, we had to gather information without any greater help, we put much effort into this. It's just natural we expect others doing the same: We had to work for it, so they should work for it, too. A plain normal human attitude.
But a bit selfish, don't you agree ?
Some months ago, I bought a Nexus 7 2013, needed a quick way of rooting the device because I left for a longer Asia vacation right the next day, filled with blogging activities. So I really needed a fast solution. I found a kind of all-in-one package, a "Nexus root toolkit" (or similar), don't remember who did it.
Perfect one ! A kind of menu with buttons to click: "Click here for checking device communication", "Click here for installing missing drivers", "Click here for unlocking the bootloader", "Click here to root", "Click here to unroot", "Click here for locking the bootloader again", "Click here if your device does not respond/boot anymore", "Click here to restore factory state".
Step by step, every step explained, every step to be done by just clicking a button. A package for "noobs". And for people needing a fast solution.
And working perfectly: Just everybody would be able to root his device, "noob" or expert.
THIS is the way it should be, a sound way for improving device usage for many, many users. And for showing manufacturers: "Hey, we're no minority anymore, so stop trying to lock us out if you want to sell in the future !" I just think of Samsung; with an ugly feeling in my guts. They're getting worse than Apple. BECAUSE root is just done by a minority they can easily choose to ignore. And it will be getting worse.
Take Sony as an example: Sure they support rooting the Z2 a bit, but they don't support unlocking the Z2's bootloader without losing DRM keys and X-Reality. A BIG turnoff. I just don't want to lose X-Reality because it's one of the very, very few video enhancements which really work.
But if more users were interested in rooting, Sony would be urged to provide a better solution. Not necessary at present: No greater demand - no greater effort.
Because rooting is still too complicated for the masses.
So: Shouldn't we try making all that things a bit more simple ? Like I saw with the "Nexus root toolkit" or whatever it was called ?
If we help others, we help ourselves at the same time: Mutual beneficial.
If we don't, we'll lose more and more of the ancient Android freedom because manufacturers will ignore our needs more and more.
That's why I wish to suggest trying to find some easier ways.
What I could do: I am a writer; I could provide simple explanations and instructions, I could also translate English documents into German.
What about you ?
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Because rooting is still too complicated for the masses.
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I repeat: Rooting is nothing that should be "for the masses".
Rooting should remain something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices because only such people can cope to the necessary extent with the special requirements of a rooted device.
In this respect the politics of the manufacturers (enable a root possibility, but make it quite diffcult) is exactly right.
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I repeat: Rooting is nothing that should be "for the masses".
Rooting should remain something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices because only such people can cope to the necessary extent with the special requirements of a rooted device.
In this respect the politics of the manufacturers (enable a root possibility, but make it quite diffcult) is exactly right.
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Just a couple of decades ago, computers were "something for really interested users who really spend time with understanding, maintaining and modifying their devices".
How does it look like today ? I'd been one of the pioneers of that times; you read about me in the news, maybe even saw the (horrible) movie.
But we shared our findings instead of hiding them deep in our bag of secrets, labelled "for experts only".
Rooting is a GOOD thing. So why don't make it easier and safer for everybody ?
Since I asked a lot of question on this forum I would like to share the answers with everybody and maybe help them.
NOTE: Please don't post any replys as I want to keep the post clean and room for updates, send me a PM if you have and idea or any fails that I made in this post, if this post helped you don't post hit just the thanks button. Cheers.
Current list of questions with answers(will be updated):
Why would I want to root my phone?
Is rooting worth the trouble?
Is rooting illegal?
Will I have any customer support?
Is it dangerous?
Isn't rooting a complex and difficult process?
Will I still receive operating system updates from my carrier?
Application updates?
What if I want to un-root my phone?
Do I run the risk of bricking my phone?
Could my phone overheat and explode?
Why would I want to root my phone?
Everything in a Linux system is a file, or is treated as a file. Since Android runs on top of Linux, it acts the same way. Most of the files you will need to access or change are available to you without having elevated permissions. "Most" being the key term here. When you want to do things that affect or change the core software of your device -- like updating the version of Android on your phone, or adding a nice piece of software from another device -- you'll have to do it as root. Dream and Magic users have been running Eclair on their phones for a good while now, and it’s because they have rooted their device. Rooting also gives you access to some handy software that you couldn’t use otherwise. Things like a complete system backup or ad blocking software require you to root your device. Don’t root your phone just for the sake of rooting your phone, but if you come across something you feel you could use or would like to have, then consider it. You'll find that the open source community is usually pretty helpful and encouraging new people to do new things is common. And when you get to the point where you can lend a hand to the new folks, pay it forward.
Is rooting worth the trouble?
The answer is a resounding yes. The phone is faster than it has ever been, the battery lasts longer, and have all kinds of new features, including free wireless tethering and notification-bar widgets. Rooting your phone is generally a fairly quick process, though the complexity depends on your specific situation. Once you're rooted your handset, you can begin installing apps (many directly from Android Market) that will take advantage of your handset's new capabilities. Installing custom ROMs (replacement operating systems) built by hackers is a longer, more involved process , and generally involves your wiping all the data from your phone, but even that is worthwhile.
Is rooting illegal?
Nope. You bought the phone, it's your equipment, you own it, and you can do what you want with it. No one is going to come and get you, and your service provider will not cancel your contract. In fact, the U.S. federal government recognized the legality of rooting a phone in July 2010.
What you will do, however, is void the warranty on your device. If you don't want to live without a warranty, rooting isn't for you. Personally, I finally decided to take the plunge when I realized that the potential benefits outweighed the potential consequences. My phone was becoming slow and buggy, with lots of force-closes, and I was just about eligible for an upgrade anyway.
Will I have any customer support?
Rooting can be daunting because there is no toll-free number you can call for help, and no governing body to which you can turn for definitive answers. But the collective process of rooting phones and creating custom ROMs has engendered cool and supportive communities. The user-generated forums out there contain a staggering amount of information; the CyanogenMod forum has offered answers to almost all of my questions, as has the XDA Developers forum, but you can find many more. No matter your question, the forums most likely already have threads that can answer it. If you really can't find anything, you can always start a new thread to ask your question. If you think you've really mucked things up and you need immediate help, many IRC chat channels specialize in support for rooters. (Download an IRC client on your computer and head to irc.freenode.net, where the channels #android and #android-root are particularly helpful.)
Is it dangerous?
It can be, It might, and Yes. By not allowing access to the superuser account, the manufacturer and your carrier have basically protected you from doing things that change the system and make it unusable. All it takes is one wrong keystroke to turn your shiny new Android phone into a plastic and metal brick with no connection. Most times this is recoverable, but not always. You have to decide how capable you feel you are, and how well written the instructions you’ve found seem to be. Nobody will blame you if you decide against the risk, especially your cell carrier. All major carriers and manufacturers plainly state that altering or using unapproved software voids your warranty, and rooting falls into that category. While that seems a bit harsh, they need to be able to support the products they sell. For that to happen, they need to know exactly what’s running and what it’s doing.
Apps that run as root need a little further consideration. You need to have a level of trust in the person who wrote the app first and foremost. Does the developer have other software available? Do the user comments (for Market apps) have anything that raises a red flag? Do the requested permissions seem a little odd? These are all questions you need to think about before you allow something to run as root. For a further level of security, think about installing an application that warns you anytime something tries to run as root. SuperUser Whitelist is a great little app that does exactly that. If you decide to go on and root, ask users with the same device as you for a link to a version of SuperUser Whitelist that works with your firmware. Once installed, anytime something wants to run as root, the app intercepts and asks if you would like to allow it. You’re given the choice to accept, decline, or grant the app in question full privileges each time it runs.
One last thing to touch on here. Many custom ROMs include some sort of SSH server. This can be a wonderful tool, or it can get you in hot water. This is what caused the whole “Rick-Roll” episode with the latest iPhone jailbreak. The server sits and waits for an outside connection, and if that connection provides the right password full control of the device is turned over. In the case of the iPhone, users never bothered to change the default SSH password for root. A clever (or devious) group of users simply scanned for servers listening on the correct port, then attempted to sign in as root with the default password. Lesson learned, but this is easy to prevent. Ask other users of the ROM or firmware you’re thinking of flashing if there is a server listening, and if so how to disable it or change the default password.
Isn't rooting a complex and difficult process?
Yes and no. It really depends on what model of phone you have. On many phones (such as the Nexus One, Motorola Defy, or EVO 4G) the process is incredibly easy: You can download an app such as Simple Root, Universal 1-Click, or Z4root that will safely root your phone with a single click. Those apps are no longer available from the Android Market, but you can find them online with a simple search and install them onto an SD Card.
It is important to note that different approaches will work for different phones. For example, Z4root will work on many Android phones, but it won't work on most HTC models. Some rooting apps will work on an early build of Android 2.2 (Froyo), but will not work on later builds (though more and more apps are being released for that now). Rooting is phone/OS specific, so make sure to check that the root tool you're considering is compatible with your phone. For other models, rooting may take much more work. You might be required to connect the phone to your computer and enter some lines of code in a terminal utility.
Fortunately, more and more root apps do not require you to hook up your computer and get in that deep. Do some research as to what is required for your setup, read some step-by-step guides, and be honest with yourself about how comfortable you would be trying to follow the directions. If it feels like you'd be in over your head, it's probably best to avoid rooting.
Note that generally rooting is even tougher to do if you use a Mac, as most of the software for doing this sort of thing is written for Windows or Linux.
Will I still receive operating system updates from my carrier?
Maybe. More than likely if you’ve just rooted your phone so you could have access to the full file system and haven’t drastically changed things, the phone will still pass your carrier's checks and upgrade. If you’ve delved deeper and really customized your device, count on not being able to upgrade. Carrier updates were designed to work with the original software, so they need to be sure that’s what the phone is running. Again, this is for your own good. T-Mobile or Verizon can’t offer technical support for things they haven’t trained their technicians on, and if you flash a carrier approved update over custom software it’s probably not going to work.
The good news is that failing the checks the carrier does during an update won’t cause any damage to your phone. The update will just quit and you’ll be back where you started. Then you can decide if you would like to un-root and upgrade or take another path. The worst case scenario is that the phone passes the carriers checks, updates, and then things get broken. That’s pretty unlikely, but possible. If that would happen, you won’t be alone. Everyone in your situation will scramble to their favorite Android user forum and hopefully a work around can be found.
Note - a carrier update may also break the ability to root the device and a new method will need to be found. Any discussion of upgrading and root needs this mentioned as well. Most folks who root and decide to install a custom ROM wait for the ROM developer to provide an update that includes any bug fixes or new capabilities of the carrier update.
Application updates?
Yes. While it’s not being used, the program that allows permissions to be upgraded just sits and does nothing. Normal applications won’t even be aware it’s there, and applications that use it expect it to be there. Application updates, whether they are from the Market or other third parties will still install as normal.
What if I want to un-root my phone?
It depends on the model of your phone. Some are ridiculously easy to revert, some not so much. This is the most important question you can ask before you dive in and root your phone. Usually the website you found the method to root your phone will also have a discussion about un-rooting and going back to stock firmware. Take the time to find and read this information so you’re aware of just how difficult it’s going to be to go back. Pay close attention and create backups when recommended while you’re rooting your phone, as these may be needed to go back. I’ve not heard of any device that can’t be restored to factory firmware provided the original was backed up properly as recommended during the rooting process. The most important thing to always remember is to ask for help. If you do find yourself stuck without a backup or a working phone and need to roll back, ask for advice. Our forums are full of fine folks from all walks of life, and the majority are more than happy to help. There’s a good chance you’re not the first person in that situation and a solution has already been worked up!
Do I run the risk of bricking my phone?
This is one of the Internet's favorite bogeymen. "Bricking" is the idea that if you try to tinker with root access, you'll mess something up so it becomes completely unusable, and you'll essentially turn your phone into a paperweight. While that's certainly not outside the realm of possibility, the good news is that Android phones are generally very hard to brick. Yes, even the Droid X, which was purported to be the "unrootable" phone, has been safely rooted for quite some time (Z4root reportedly works with the Droid X).
If you do get caught in a boot loop, you may have to connect your phone to your computer and rewrite some code, but if you are patient and willing to do some more reading, you will almost always be able to find a way to at least restore your phone to its original state (read more on where that help comes from in the next section).
A common mistake that actually will lead to a bricked phone is running out of battery power in the middle of trying to install a custom ROM. The operating system only half installs, and that really is tough to fix. So always make sure that your battery is full before you install a new OS or ROM.
Also, just because a phone is rootable does not mean you can install any custom ROM you want. Differerent ROMs will work for different phones. Even the extremely popular CyanogenMod works for many phones, but certainly not all, so do plenty of research to make sure your phone is supported before trying to install a custom ROM.
Could my phone overheat and explode?
One of the major incentives to root your phone is the ability to overclock your processor to gain more speed (or underclock it to extend battery life). My phone has gotten considerably faster because of overclocking. When you overclock your processor, though, it will get hotter. If you try to push your phone too far and you don't set any fail-safes (a maximum allowable temperature in the overclocking utility), then you could burn out your processor. However, it is very easy to set safety thresholds to ensure that you don't do that.
SetCPU, the most popular app for overclocking or underclocking, allows you to set up various profiles.
Reading the rooting forums will give you plenty of advice on how far you can push your specific device and maintain stability. It pays to do some experimentation: Different phones behave differently, even if they're the same model.
Sources: androidcentral.com, pcworld.com
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Well i planned on getting the V10 tomorrow and out of excitement i was going to look up how the dev was on xda. Disappointment it seems to be very little development. Is there a particular reason or should i get different phone?
I'm actually thinking the same exact thing. Plan on getting this phone this weekend with Jump on Demand from an S6
Development is down on all devices..and for many reasons:
1. Much greater security in Lollipop and Marshmallow
2. With all the customizations available and features included on new phones developers are losing the desire to make ROMs
Between layers and Xposed most users can make their phones do what they want
3. Manufacturers and Carriers locking bootloaders and making root very difficult and anything other than flavors of stock impossible
Security is the new thing that sells phones...these are people's personal assistants now with their entire lives and financial business on them.
With all the features included on new phones these days, including theme engines, for most people just having root is enough. And for some devices there is not even root.
Best advice? Look towards a Nexus device...unlockable, rootable and works on all carriers.
What kind of development do you want exactly? Between root and all the Xposed modules available, there really is no more need for custom ROMs. For the V10, P_Toti's G4TweaksBox takes care of 95% of things people would want to change, and you can accomplish the rest with Xposed.
when the phone stops doing what you want(i.e. when it's end of life and thus isn't supported by the oem) then is the time to worry about romming, but honestly, by the time a device is end of life, it's usually time to get a new phone anyways...android is to the point now that other than modifying things layout-wise, there's no reason to rom...as has been said numerously, between xposed and the way android is, and manufacturer skins as well, there's no point anymore
Hello, I got my V10 a few weeks ago and I'm looking to unlock this phone's full potential.
I am technically inclined, but no super genious. I'm intelligent in the artistic way, not the math way. Can't seem to structure my thoughts for long enough to accomplish a whole lot. I'm good at understanding the basic fundamentals and idea behind things, just can't hang on to all the details that long.
The last phone I had rooted was the Samsung Galaxy precident. It has been a while, and a lot of things have changed.
TMI here maybe, but hopefully this will give you an idea of my technical skill lev and make it easier for you to help me
So what I'm hoping to accomplish for my v10 today is firstly to remove all the bloatware and unnecessary stock apps.
2nd is to unlock any hidden features and tweak/fix existing features.
3nd is to optimize performance and battery life
4th is to customize the interface and user experience.
Generally I have found that rooting has been quite handy on my previous phones.
I would like to (if possible) avoid voiding my warranty, or at least make it hard to detect that I voided it.
Stability is important since this phone is my daily driver.
And most importantly I would like the process to be as low-risk as possible.
So as of right now my phone is bone-stock except for a Launcher.
If anybody could kindly point me in the right direction to get me started, I would greatly appreciate it.
twistdshade said:
Hello, I got my V10 a few weeks ago and I'm looking to unlock this phone's full potential.
I am technically inclined, but no super genious. I'm intelligent in the artistic way, not the math way. Can't seem to structure my thoughts for long enough to accomplish a whole lot. I'm good at understanding the basic fundamentals and idea behind things, just can't hang on to all the details that long.
The last phone I had rooted was the Samsung Galaxy precident. It has been a while, and a lot of things have changed.
TMI here maybe, but hopefully this will give you an idea of my technical skill lev and make it easier for you to help me
So what I'm hoping to accomplish for my v10 today is firstly to remove all the bloatware and unnecessary stock apps.
2nd is to unlock any hidden features and tweak/fix existing features.
3nd is to optimize performance and battery life
4th is to customize the interface and user experience.
Generally I have found that rooting has been quite handy on my previous phones.
I would like to (if possible) avoid voiding my warranty, or at least make it hard to detect that I voided it.
Stability is important since this phone is my daily driver.
And most importantly I would like the process to be as low-risk as possible.
So as of right now my phone is bone-stock except for a Launcher.
If anybody could kindly point me in the right direction to get me started, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Start with this... Tmo won't void you for root as long as you flash back to stock, but this is a how to root instruction that, if any easier, would be a color by number... After that siraltus rom, or GreezePop are both debloated, and a great start. Read thru the threads in tmobile LG V10, everything you could possibly need is in these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3274699
[Guide] How to Root LG v10 - Easy [1 Jan 2016]
Common sense isn't all that common
twistdshade said:
Hello, I got my V10 a few weeks ago and I'm looking to unlock this phone's full potential.
I am technically inclined, but no super genious. I'm intelligent in the artistic way, not the math way. Can't seem to structure my thoughts for long enough to accomplish a whole lot. I'm good at understanding the basic fundamentals and idea behind things, just can't hang on to all the details that long.
The last phone I had rooted was the Samsung Galaxy precident. It has been a while, and a lot of things have changed.
TMI here maybe, but hopefully this will give you an idea of my technical skill lev and make it easier for you to help me
So what I'm hoping to accomplish for my v10 today is firstly to remove all the bloatware and unnecessary stock apps.
2nd is to unlock any hidden features and tweak/fix existing features.
3nd is to optimize performance and battery life
4th is to customize the interface and user experience.
Generally I have found that rooting has been quite handy on my previous phones.
I would like to (if possible) avoid voiding my warranty, or at least make it hard to detect that I voided it.
Stability is important since this phone is my daily driver.
And most importantly I would like the process to be as low-risk as possible.
So as of right now my phone is bone-stock except for a Launcher.
If anybody could kindly point me in the right direction to get me started, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Read, read, then read again . Everything here is pretty basic comprehension. I'm no genius so sometimes I will read through a thread twice and watch a video before I begin . Makes things a lot easier when you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it . Good luck
TIP : Not mentioned in the instructions ..
When you download and install the drivers plug your phone into the computer and wait for the drivers to apply to the phone . Then you will see on your phone a notice asking to allow USB debugging press yes . then run your unlock .
I think that is why some people have problems with a failed bootloader unlock due to the phone not being recognized. I got it first try no problems. Good luck
Finally got around to setting up my laptop and getting into this. (it aint easy being a truck driver)
I got it rooted and SU installed.