I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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thrgk said:
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?
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Surge's method referenced in the previous post retains root.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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no boot loader unlock exist, for the locked bootloader safestrap must be used
you need to read the following thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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thrgk said:
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?
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my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
joshm.1219 said:
A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section
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There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
jake.99x3 said:
There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.
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Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever be truly usable. Kexec support is needed
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decaturbob said:
my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.
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Not precisely. You can be rooted but otherwise stock and manage to take the OTA successfully. That will leave you unrooted.
My phone was rooted factory stock and would have taken the OTA successfully if not for a single modified file left behind by an older version of SuperSU and a file modified by Safestrap. If Safestrap wasn't active and without that old SuperSU thing it would have taken the OTA.
From a practical standpoint, you're right. Unless you're stock, there's a good chance the OTA will fail to start. And keep nagging you each time it fails.
thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.
Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms
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If you are on MK2, than you have a locked bootloader, which as of today is STILL UNLOCKABLE!!!!
Therefore, there is no AOSP ROMS avaiable for us, SafeSTrap users, which means that we can only flash TW based ROMS!
there are tons of ROMs for us, SS users, and the first 3 ROMs that pop into my mind which are the best of the best for us i337 AT&T users with MK2 locked bootloaders is these:
SHOstock-i v7.0 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
Deadly Venom v3.0.2 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447482
HyperDrive ==> Android 4.3 RLS15 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520418
HyperDrive ==> KitKat 4.4.2 RLS17 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
And here is an INDEX for ALL ROMS for the Galaxy S4, 4.3 and 4.4.2 ...this here is the best forum there is for our S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
If I helped you, please hit THANKS, it's not that hard...
I have spoke of surge's upgrade/downgrade methods before. He is a senior member here on xda. The other method I know of, as far as upgrade/downgrade, is giglies. Giglies method came out after. It's fewer steps but the documentation could use an overhaul. If you see a post around the s4 forums with surge's name on it, I bet a lot of people are going to see what he has to say about it
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with towel root now available for use on NC5 phones, the need to upgrade/downgrade really is no longer a driving force.
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Say I'm running MDK 4.2.2, I have a custom recovery installed, and then 4.3 comes out. Could I just wait for a dev to release their own flashable version of TouchWiz 4.3 with the unlocked bootloader and MDK baseband? Or would it not be the same as updating to 4.3 OTA (so, would the update not be as "good")? Sorry if this is a really noob question. Thanks!
mateopase said:
Say I'm running MDK 4.2.2, I have a custom recovery installed, and then 4.3 comes out. Could I just wait for a dev to release their own flashable version of TouchWiz 4.3 with the unlocked bootloader and MDK baseband? Or would it not be the same as updating to 4.3 OTA (so, would the update not be as "good")? Sorry if this is a really noob question. Thanks!
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Never take an update from Samsung/Verizon. At least as long as we have developer support just wait for a flashable ROM to be released.
BTW - the baseband is not relevant on this issue. You can flash a new radio if you choose. I've seen no reason to but many have.
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AliceBToklas said:
Never take an update from Samsung/Verizon. At least as long as we have developer support just wait for a flashable ROM to be released.
BTW - the baseband is not relevant on this issue. You can flash a new radio if you choose. I've seen no reason to but many have.
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Oh, ok. I understand. Thanks!
Ive used safestrap previously on my old OG Razr and absolutely loved it, but what good is it going to be on the S4, doesnt seem like any ROMs even support it =( Is it just because people havent updated the ROMs yet becauses its not done? I ****ed up and took all the OTAs and now i have a locked bootloader and would love to see some Safestrap ROMs...
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Ive used safestrap previously on my old OG Razr and absolutely loved it, but what good is it going to be on the S4, doesnt seem like any ROMs even support it =( Is it just because people havent updated the ROMs yet becauses its not done? I ****ed up and took all the OTAs and now i have a locked bootloader and would love to see some Safestrap ROMs...
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The only versions that safestrap (curently) supports are, ME7 and MI1. Hash however, is working on getting safestrap support on MJ7 and MK2. As for ROMS, the only roms that you can flash with safestrap are ROMS that are Touch Wiz based(e.x. Hyperdrive). Lastley if i was you i would avoid taking any more ota's from verizon.
oliohh said:
Ive used safestrap previously on my old OG Razr and absolutely loved it, but what good is it going to be on the S4, doesnt seem like any ROMs even support it =( Is it just because people havent updated the ROMs yet becauses its not done? I ****ed up and took all the OTAs and now i have a locked bootloader and would love to see some Safestrap ROMs...
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Have you read any of the safe strap threads yet? Should do so before posting about the safestrap that's been out and the Roms that are working with it currently and the work hash code is doing right now to get it ported over to mj7 and mdk2 bases
powered by hashcode safestrap hyperdrive 10.2
Safestrap is working great on my rooted MK2 Verizon S4...
Can't wait to see some ROMs for this now!!
Thanks guys!
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The only versions that safestrap (curently) supports are, ME7 and MI1. Hash however, is working on getting safestrap support on MJ7 and MK2. As for ROMS, the only roms that you can flash with safestrap are ROMS that are Touch Wiz based(e.x. Hyperdrive). Lastley if i was you i would avoid taking any more ota's from verizon.
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not true at all, theres a couple that are based on the GE ROM (I'm currently running one)
kinglyO said:
not true at all, theres a couple that are based on the GE ROM (I'm currently running one)
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There designed to look like GE ROMs but they're based on TW kernels.
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Are there any roms yet for rooted mk2 s4 Verizon with safe strap
Does anyone know if there are any roms yet for rooted mk2 s4 I'm running safestrap but really want a custom rom and some hacks or mods any suggestions would be great thanks everyone
3vo757 said:
Does anyone know if there are any roms yet for rooted mk2 s4 I'm running safestrap but really want a custom rom and some hacks or mods any suggestions would be great thanks everyone
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Yes. A dozen or so. There is a thread in general section.
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Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
CC268 said:
Well I think I am going to loose my root access and update to the newest firmware and radios from Verizon. I don't do much with rooting and custom ROM's, etc anymore and I figure it is time to move onto the newest stuff. What is the best way to do this?
Currently I am on MDK stock firmware, but rooted and TWRP recovery.
Thanks guys.
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Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
zeb carter said:
Personally, I'd say don't do it. an MDK phone is becoming a rare commodity. You could put a custom rom on there that gives you the latest functionality of the newer releases without the bloat that comes from an OTA. Not all roms are full of fancy bells and whistles. I run Danvdh's GPE rom wich is pretty much just plain vanilla AOSP. I am running a newer radio (NC2) but other than ththe rom and radio, it's nothing fancy.
Hang on to the MDK as long as you can.
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Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
CC268 said:
Honestly man...I always run into a problem at some point with custom ROM's....I just want a stock ROM that I would see if I updated to the newest firmware. I am on the oldest radio as well. Idk...just tired of the custom ROM stuff I guess...always stuff that doesn't work, etc...
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Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
zeb carter said:
Danvdh puts a lot of work into his ports of the GPE roms and because it is a GPE rom, it is designed for our phones. For me, it is the ultimate stock rom with no additional carrier or OEM bloat. Just fully functioning Android and now at 4.4.4. You can't get much newer than that.
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Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
CC268 said:
Really don't want an AOSP ROM....
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You easily sell your MDK phone on swappa and buy a stock S4 and be money ahead
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Lol...I am just wondering how to get to the newest Stock TW ROM...whether it is on here or unrooting and updating.
For now I will just give the new Hyperdrive a try.
trade?
Dude, I've got a perfectly good and updated galaxy S4 (verizon) running the NC5 OTA update. I'll gladly pull out my mobo and send it to you if you send me yours =]
..just dont hurt it when taking the phone apart! =]
..ill even gladly pay for shipping (both ways) doooo iiiit
..also have a MI1 mobo
Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
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Haha...for now I am just back on Hyperdrive...always been good ROMs...
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Hyperdrive that the one im using and i liked no problems at all..
I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
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I wish someone would offer just the bone stock newest update...that would be nice. Hyperdrive is nice, but it has a lot of extras I just don't need.
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You can always Odin nc5
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decaturbob said:
You can always Odin nc5
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I am very familiar with using ODIN to get back to stock like this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
But where would I get NC5? Would I lose root if I did that?
Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
Thanks a ton!
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Flash jkruse ROM....its bone stock..
Or if ya want nc5 surges stone ROM..
Plenty of choices...u might regret losing ur mdk
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Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
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Where is that Surge's Stone ROM you referred to?
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Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
cobra7361 said:
Jkrusenrom is nf1 I think....its the newest..
Think its in general or development we section
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Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
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Yea that is the international version...I figured I would just stick with the Verizon NC5 which is Verizon's newest.
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Surges ROM is in his upgrade thread..
In OP..two different ones
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
ymDroid said:
Probably a noob question, but if you want root for titanium, wifi tether, xposed mods, etc...
Why is it so important to stay on MK2.
There's a few threads on downgrading from NC5 to MK2, and back up to keep the MK2 bootloader.
MK2 is not MDK, you can't run a custom recovery.
So what's so bad about taking the NC5 OTA and then just rooting? You can still run SS? Can yoi not flash a SS compatible ROM on NC5s bootloader?
Just trying to understand the difference. I know the benefit to MDK, just not anything else.
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People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
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People hold out hope that someone may unlock the mk2 bootloader. To me it doesn't matter I'm on the NC2/NC5 bootloader myself.
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Are we pretty close to unlocking MK2? Should I hold out?
I used your method to upgrade to NC5, but the audio over wifi glitch has me on the verge of taking the OTA.
Im not really seeing any other way of fixing this issue except going stock?
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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Batttie said:
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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It really sucked having to do that. It was my first root ever and I soft bricked my phone three times because I knew less than nothing about rooting and whatnot. Three weeks later: Towelroot. Now its a party lol.
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Batttie said:
Also alot of those threads were made before a native NC5 exploit was released. Before towelroot, the MK2 bootloader downgrade was the method for root.
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But there are more devs working for a bootloader exploit for the S5, than the S4.
And the S5, so if there is an exploit on the S5, it will probably transfer over to the S4 at the NC5 level since that firmware is on par with the S4s NC5.
So isn't it better to go to full NC5?
I have a Verizon S4 that is currently running Lollipop OF1.
I have heard that root and custom recoveries aren't installable with this update, and this update is not downgradeable. Is this true?
Yes, all of that is true.
From what I've seen, some users have achieved root but you are right on not being able to have custom recovery, only users with the MDK bootloader can install recoveries. Downgrading is not available either. I recommended taking some time and reading through the forums and educate yourself on what you can and can't do.
Edit: Looks like root is not available yet, I have MDK so I don't really look into it much.
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We are stuck, up goes this thread