[Q] Not getting a GPS lock on Google edition - AT&T HTC One (M7)

So I'm not able to get a GPS lock on my HTC One with google edition installed. Location works with mobile data/wifi but it's not the most accurate.
I've ran the GPS for 5-10 minutes, using GPS status to see if it locks onto any satellites; it detects a bunch but never can lock on.
I figured it may have been the case since I have the Otterbox defender on it but same thing happens with the case off.
Anybody have a solution or experiencing the same issue?

mcho19 said:
So I'm not able to get a GPS lock on my HTC One with google edition installed. Location works with mobile data/wifi but it's not the most accurate.
I've ran the GPS for 5-10 minutes, using GPS status to see if it locks onto any satellites; it detects a bunch but never can lock on.
I figured it may have been the case since I have the Otterbox defender on it but same thing happens with the case off.
Anybody have a solution or experiencing the same issue?
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Are you trying this outside. Even minor building walls can block the signals. Also it is possible since your phone was not intended for the Google Edition ROM, the ROM may have reduced your GPS transceivers power. This is one reason it is never a good idea to use ROMS that the phone was not made for.

Changed the rom back to stock at&t rom, always test outside for gps lock, and updated to latest firmware, still no gps lock.

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[Q] Jumpy GPS?

Hey guys. Coming from 3 HTC Android phones, I never had any problems regarding fast locking and accuracy on my GPS, may it be indoors or outdoors.
With my SGS2, I wasn't really happy with its GPS performance.
Aside from very slow GPS fixing / locking in satellites outdoors (tested with GPS Status app), I get a very jumpy GPS location indoors. Even with downloaded AGPS prior to that.
I created a screen cast of my Google Maps app below for reference. The star on the map is my actual location. Notice how my location jumps from one place to another every few seconds.
Even turning on the sensor aiding made no difference.
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I know some of you might say that of course checking it indoors and relying on wifi alone will make it inaccurate. But even my iPod Touch which doesn't even have a GPS chip have no issues locating me.
I'm running Cognition 1.15 and flashing a stock ROM and kernel also made no difference.
Can you guys test yours with my setup: Only Wifi indoors and do not get gps lock outdoors.
I will do further testing.
Welcome to the club m8. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173683
I think it's jumpy because it's not using gps, but fixating you postilion from you network and wifi. That's why it jumps.
Does your gps show lock at the top icons bar? Or does it just keeps flashing?
Mines going back for sensation or lg.
Hi. My GPS icon is flashing. Yep, I'm aware that it is till looking for a satellite to lock in. Which is a problem in itself by the way ^_^
My point here is that I've done this similarly on my previous phones and with my iPod Touch, same setup. But they didn't produce this problem.
UPDATE: Tested out the GPS outside. It won't lock to any satellite (after like 10mins) unless I turned on WiFi. GPS should work independently, right?
Once I had it locked to 6 satellites at max, I went indoors and same thing happened to the screnario on the video, my location jumps from one place to another. Shouldn't it take the previously GPS locked satellite as reference?
chobie said:
UPDATE: Tested out the GPS outside. It won't lock to any satellite (after like 10mins) unless I turned on WiFi. GPS should work independently, right?
Once I had it locked to 6 satellites at max, I went indoors and same thing happened to the screnario on the video, my location jumps from one place to another. Shouldn't it take the previously GPS locked satellite as reference?
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It is using the satellite position from last lock to help getting a new lock, but it still needs to have stable reception from 3 satellites in different parts of the sky for a certain time in order to lock, it probably doesn't get this indoors.
But you seem to have some problem getting a lock with your GPS, some people are helped by doing a factory restore when they're having such issues. (beware, wipes your data!!!)
What do you mean by turning on Wifi by the way? Do you mean turning on "Use wireless networks" in Location and security menu? This is not something wifi specific, in fact since you're outdoors it normally uses your 3g connection to get approximate satellite positions and your approximate position from network operator. So please doesn't call this turning on "Wifi", because that means turning on/off you wifi receiver, that is another setting
EDIT: added "in different parts of the sky" above, 3 satellites close to each other is usually not enough for a GPS lock.
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It is using the satellite position from last lock to help getting a new lock, but it still needs to have stable reception from 3 satellites in different parts of the sky for a certain time in order to lock, it probably doesn't get this indoors.
But you seem to have some problem getting a lock with your GPS, some people are helped by doing a factory restore when they're having such issues. (beware, wipes your data!!!)
What do you mean by turning on Wifi by the way? Do you mean turning on "Use wireless networks" in Location and security menu? This is not something wifi specific, in fact since you're outdoors it normally uses your 3g connection to get approximate satellite positions and your approximate position from network operator. So please doesn't call this turning on "Wifi", because that means turning on/off you wifi receiver, that is another setting
EDIT: added "in different parts of the sky" above, 3 satellites close to each other is usually not enough for a GPS lock.
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I totally understand that. I referred to Wifi because it's the only connection I was connected to in asstistance to my GPS. My mobile data is turned off. But I did test it by isolating only mobile data on to check if AGPS by 3g will get me faster lock on it -- No difference.
I have also flashed a stock ROM and Kernel and fully wiped my phone data but it is just producing the same problem.
To be honest m8 this phone is good on the spec, and looks good too. But poor internal hardware lets it down. I went down to my local shop to see if it was me or something and asked for a demo test for phone they had and they also couldn't get it to lock the gps on it's own.
I feel for andriod, it can give it a bad name. But it's not androids fault it's Samsung, if your phone is new replace it with sensation or lg 3d.
I've even had the opportunity, to try it with CM7 now, so it seems it hardware afterall.
Guys chill down ur balls, gps readings r very subjective and u cant judge on them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126122
Still really disappointed that my iPod touch can get a very accurate gps fix in less than five seconds considering it has no GPS chip and only using wifi. This has aGPS and sensor aiding and yet it's not very accurate and is jumpy still.

[Q] Should I exchange my Thunderbolt?

I've been using Android phones since the first Droid in November, 2009. My most recent phone (before my Thunderbolt) was a Droid Incredible. I loved the incredible but upgraded to the TB on the last day of unlimited data so I could lock it in for 2 more years.
However, there are some anomalies, aka problems, with the Thunderbolt that I didn't experience on the Incredible. I'm hoping you can help me decide if this is because of a faulty phone or I have to live with these.
1. GPS. I leave the GPS on all the time. I know, it's a battery hit, but I use it enough to just leave it on. However, on the Thunderbolt, after I've picked a destination in Google Maps, I often get a message at the bottom of the map stating: "Waiting for GPS". Yesterday I drove over 20 miles before it locked into GPS. This happens frequently. On the Incredible I never saw "Waiting for GPS" ever. Not once. Do I have to live with this? Is this the nature of the beast? Or do I have a faulty unit?
2. Data connection. Often when I try to do something data-wise such as the browser, etc. I get a message stating there's no data connection. I look at the notification bar and see that there are 3 or 4 bars in my signal strength area but no data information. There's no 3G, 1X or 4G indicator. Nothing. That area has just vanished from the notification bar. I've tried turning data on/off, I've tried going into and out of airplane mode, nothing turns data back on. I eventually have to hold the power button down and tap on "reset." That does the trick and I'll have data once it's reset. Again, is this normal or is there a setting somewhere where I can coax data into coming on. Or is this a faulty unit?
3. Screen dimming oddness. I have the car holder. I like it a lot. When I put it in the car holder I see the little lightning bolt over the battery indicator indicating it's charging. I have set the settings option to keep the screen on when it's plugged in so I can see the maps while driving. However, after a period of time the screen goes dim. It doesn't turn off, just dim. Touching the screen brings it to full brightness. However, that's dangerous while driving.
When this happens I notice that the lightning bolt doesn't appear over the battery any more. It's as if the charger stopped charging and I am running on battery. However, that can't be the case since the battery never drains. Even after 5 hours of driving the battery doesn't go down. It just doesn't have a lighting bolt and the screen will go dim. I can dismount and remount the phone in the car holder and the lightning bolt will reappear. As long as the lightning bolt is there the screen won't dim. But after a while the lightning bolt goes away and the screen will dim again. This is very annoying.
Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
Here are details on my phone. Stock Android, not rooted. Android 2.2.1 Build: 1.13.605.7
Thanks in advance
The GPS is sadly a known issue but a fix can be found here. I use OMFGB and have flawless GPS even w/o the fix.
Your issue with data is kinda odd. Perhaps you can try flashing a newer radio. A list of Radio's and ROM's that are compatible with them is here
I am also unsure about your Car Dock issue since I dont use that feature. The above link for radio's and ROMs might fix that issue as well.
I dont recall having any weird issues like that when I had my 1st Thunderbolt, a side from call quality problems and bad battery.
I ended up taking it back and got an Incredible 2. never had any problems with the Inc 2 but did not that the battery was only a little bit better then the Thunderbolt's(during heavy usage) & since I did like the bigger size of the TB I ended up trading with someone on these forums and now I have a T B again. Same battery issues & same call quality issues.
I think once Verizon gives the $400 deposit back after the 1st year im just going to buy somwtjing new.
I had I similar issue with the data connection disappearing all of a sudden. This started to happen after I flushed MR2 OTA radio. I have since tried MR2 leaked and R2 gingerbread radios and both did not have this problem. Good luck!
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Thanks for the quick responses. Currently, since this is a corporate phone, I don't intend to root or change roms. Any other ideas?
The new gingeritis roms and he new gb radio are both from the new gb base that's supposed to be released for the TB soon. I would try them, you might be on an old radio and kernel that's just not working for your phone, try the new ones and see if that helps. If not, it might be a hardware problem, cuz I have none of those issues on the new radio and gingeritis 3d, or the old radio and stock rom, or any other rom for that matter.
Sent from my TBolt using my f**king thumbs...
Woohoo! The GPS Status program corrected my GPS issue. Thanks a bunch for that tip.
Now, how about the data issue or the dimming issue. Any thoughts on those two items?
TabGuy said:
I've been using Android phones since the first Droid in November, 2009. My most recent phone (before my Thunderbolt) was a Droid Incredible. I loved the incredible but upgraded to the TB on the last day of unlimited data so I could lock it in for 2 more years.
However, there are some anomalies, aka problems, with the Thunderbolt that I didn't experience on the Incredible. I'm hoping you can help me decide if this is because of a faulty phone or I have to live with these.
1. GPS. I leave the GPS on all the time. I know, it's a battery hit, but I use it enough to just leave it on. However, on the Thunderbolt, after I've picked a destination in Google Maps, I often get a message at the bottom of the map stating: "Waiting for GPS". Yesterday I drove over 20 miles before it locked into GPS. This happens frequently. On the Incredible I never saw "Waiting for GPS" ever. Not once. Do I have to live with this? Is this the nature of the beast? Or do I have a faulty unit?
2. Data connection. Often when I try to do something data-wise such as the browser, etc. I get a message stating there's no data connection. I look at the notification bar and see that there are 3 or 4 bars in my signal strength area but no data information. There's no 3G, 1X or 4G indicator. Nothing. That area has just vanished from the notification bar. I've tried turning data on/off, I've tried going into and out of airplane mode, nothing turns data back on. I eventually have to hold the power button down and tap on "reset." That does the trick and I'll have data once it's reset. Again, is this normal or is there a setting somewhere where I can coax data into coming on. Or is this a faulty unit?
3. Screen dimming oddness. I have the car holder. I like it a lot. When I put it in the car holder I see the little lightning bolt over the battery indicator indicating it's charging. I have set the settings option to keep the screen on when it's plugged in so I can see the maps while driving. However, after a period of time the screen goes dim. It doesn't turn off, just dim. Touching the screen brings it to full brightness. However, that's dangerous while driving.
When this happens I notice that the lightning bolt doesn't appear over the battery any more. It's as if the charger stopped charging and I am running on battery. However, that can't be the case since the battery never drains. Even after 5 hours of driving the battery doesn't go down. It just doesn't have a lighting bolt and the screen will go dim. I can dismount and remount the phone in the car holder and the lightning bolt will reappear. As long as the lightning bolt is there the screen won't dim. But after a while the lightning bolt goes away and the screen will dim again. This is very annoying.
Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
Here are details on my phone. Stock Android, not rooted. Android 2.2.1 Build: 1.13.605.7
Thanks in advance
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I have had these problems on stock, rooted, and custom ROMs, esp the data signal disappearing and also the screen dimming while using google maps. Not sure what the problem is. Make sure you leave wifi on when using gps also, this will help it get locks faster.
nrfitchett4 said:
I have had these problems on stock, rooted, and custom ROMs, esp the data signal disappearing and also the screen dimming while using google maps. Not sure what the problem is. Make sure you leave wifi on when using gps also, this will help it get locks faster.
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I actually have wifi hotspot turned on when I travel so I can use my Galaxy Tab on the Internet. So, leaving wifi on isn't a real option. However, the tips above seemed to have fixed the GPS lock.

[Q] GPS

I am using CM7 and my gps takes a long time to lock. Anyone has similar experience?
Try having data/wifi on, then heading outside below a clear sky.
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Yeah, gps can sometimes take ages to get lock, I have waited for up to 5 mins for lock, this is not limited to any type of rom, I have used stock eclair, stock froyo, rooted eclair and the others in my sig....
If you have mobile internet and network location turned on, i notice it does help to get lock quicker, I think that has something to to with AGPS data loading. Also if you don't use gps regularly the location data becomes out of date, I'm pretty sure there is an expiry on the life on the data, so for example if you use gps regularly daily or a few times a week it seams to lock much quicker....
On another note, I have one of those silicone rubber covers on my phone, when using the "gps test" app (from market) for example I get quite a significant signal increase when I take the cover off, so if you have a cover, try taking it off and see if it helps you...
Ta
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What is your GPS [GLONASS] lock time?? +info on GLONASS

In case you didn't know, the Note can use GLONASS instead of GPS (Click on the words to read more).
People use GPS like "Xerox", "Coke", or "Kleenex"... but nevermind that.
What is your GPS/GLONASS lock time with A.GPS (Assisted GPS (network location)) and sensor aid on??
Please describe whether you are outside or inside. I am also particularly interested the lock time from a fresh boot or if you're using GPS from a new location.
IMPORTANT: Please note (excuse the pun) down, when you launch Maps or Nav and the arrow shows up almost instantaneously, I would like to know IF *sometimes* the GPS reticle on the status bar continues to flash/blink for a while.
Why do I ask? My Note takes anywhere from 3-12 seconds to lock when GPS is "hot" and takes 10-25 seconds to lock from a reboot in doors while stationary.
Compared to my Sprint Evo 3D, GSM Galaxy Nexus, or the iPhone4s that I never use, that is slow. When I powered up the Galaxy Nexus for the first time, it locked under 5 seconds! My Evo 3D would lock from a boot in under 5 seconds. The 4s is super fast also. The Note, with GLONASS, is supposed to be faster and more accurate...
Thanks.
Edit: Interesting discovery today--the slow lock and low precision in my car may be because of my car--but it may also be revealing limitations in GLONASS:
Every piece of glass on my car is double-paned (twice as thick as the typical car glass), sandwiched with a polymer layer, along with an IR rejecting coating. This is designed to keep the interior very quiet, makes the glass theft resistant, and the IR coating reduces the heat that enters the cabin (heat travels in the form of infrared). The IR coating, unfortunately, also rejects other radio frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum. That, along with metallic particularized tint, causes a reduced radio performance for any device that is in the interior of the vehicle.
I usually don't have any problems with the GSM/UMTS or CDMA phones, and GPS has no problems either (although I notice a reduced s/n ratio). As I indicated before, other GPS-based phones lock fine, and the GPS+GLONASS iPhone works fine also.
As I was driving home today, I tried opening the window. I noticed that every time I opened, the phone would get a quick and solid lock. Every time I closed, the uncertainty circle appears.
Is it possible that GLONASS, operating at 1.6Ghz, using FDMA is less able to penetrate certain objects than GPS operating at 1.57Ghz using CDMA? I presume civilians are still only using the coarse channels so that doesn't help. It is interesting to see that GPS have no problems in my car while GLONASS does. I will drive another car tomorrow and see if there is a difference.
My Note locked within 2 seconds this morning, on my way to work. I was outside in my car.
When opening google maps, I get a lock before the app is fully open, ie. I'm already locked by the time I can do anything in the app even. Compared to my Captivate and Infuse, the lock times on my Note are godly.
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I lock before apps load that can use it such as maps/nav. I came from a Vibrant that even after numerous "fixes" it still could take a couple minutes to lock.
Wow... That is what I expected from my phone. Are you guys all using the stock ROM? If not, what ROM are you using and who is your carrier?
Thanks.
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When opening google maps, I get a lock before the app is fully open, ie. I'm already locked by the time I can do anything in the app even. Compared to my Captivate and Infuse, the lock times on my Note are godly.
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same experience here,running stock
No, not stock. I'm highly modified. I installed a screen protector that I suspect is giving me increased GPS/glonass capabilities.
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Chief Geek said:
No, not stock. I'm highly modified. I installed a screen protector that I suspect is giving me increased GPS/glonass capabilities.
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Hmmm... maybe it's *my* screen protector that is killing the GPS...
A follow up to those who responded:
Please note (excuse the pun) down, when you launch Maps or Nav and the arrow shows up almost instantaneously, I would like to know IF *sometimes* the GPS reticle on the status bar continues to flash/blink for a while.
Thanks for the information.
I was excited for the GPS capabilities in this phone before I bought it, but my experiences have been far worse than everyone elses. Google Maps is loaded for about 5 seconds before it even STARTS trying to acquire a position. And even then, while indoors it takes a good 20 seconds to lock on. My iPhone 4 locks on indoors in about 3-5 seconds.
With the note, many apps think I'm 10-15 miles away while indoors. Especially with weather apps that just want a quick location fix but don't leave the GPS on during use. At first glance everything thinks I'm far away. Chat apps that only use GPS when sending a message have the same problem. Navigation apps that leave the GPS on during use are accurate. It's annoying. Never had an issue like that on my old phone.
Outside though, the Note seems to lock on nice and quick, within about 2-3 seconds upon starting acquisition, and my accuracy is generally at 3 meters or less. Even my $650 handheld GPSr doesn't have that level of accuracy.
EDIT: The notification bar icon DOES continue to blink for several seconds after achieving a lock.
johnus said:
I was excited for the GPS capabilities in this phone before I bought it, but my experiences have been far worse than everyone elses. Google Maps is loaded for about 5 seconds before it even STARTS trying to acquire a position. And even then, while indoors it takes a good 20 seconds to lock on. My iPhone 4 locks on indoors in about 3-5 seconds.
With the note, many apps think I'm 10-15 miles away while indoors. Especially with weather apps that just want a quick location fix but don't leave the GPS on during use. At first glance everything thinks I'm far away. Chat apps that only use GPS when sending a message have the same problem. Navigation apps that leave the GPS on during use are accurate. It's annoying. Never had an issue like that on my old phone.
Outside though, the Note seems to lock on nice and quick, within about 2-3 seconds upon starting acquisition, and my accuracy is generally at 3 meters or less. Even my $650 handheld GPSr doesn't have that level of accuracy.
EDIT: The notification bar icon DOES continue to blink for several seconds after achieving a lock.
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As for accuracy, this is a function of the number of satilites that you have locked onto. I believe all you need are 2, possibly 3 for accurate elevation, however the more you lock onto the more acurate you are. This is why "quick" on and off checks are rarely very accurate. however, with weather, the phone grabs your location and then queries the closest whether center, which is very rarely in your neighborhood. Typically it's your closest airport or military base, so this will atleast be 20-30 miles away, but often in same or neighboring zip codes.
For the indoor, thing, I never expect (nor really use) reliable GPS signal indoords. Just because you get a lock doesn't mean it'll be enough locks to do much. I rarely get lost going from my kitchen to the latrine anyways, but I suppose with enough beer it could happen. I would suggest (and you probably already have) check to make sure you make use of "use sensor aiding" option.
If all else fails, I will loan you my vibrant and you can experience a man-tantrum in your car when the fking thing wont lock after 5 minutes and your lost as **** and late as hell and google maps keeps freezing and FCing. That'll make you want to wine and dine your other devices for treating you so well.
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As for accuracy, this is a function of the number of satilites that you have locked onto. I believe all you need are 2, possibly 3 for accurate elevation,
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I believe you need at least 3 for triangulation (location) and 4th to give elevation.
Another interesting thing I noticed about my Note--even if it locks quickly while I am stationary, it looses lock when I am moving (driving). I had my Sprint Evo 3D, Verizon Galaxy Nexus, Sprint Galaxy S Epic 4G, GSM Galaxy Nexus, and the Note side-by-side on the dash. The only phone that keeps losing and reacquiring the lock the the Note (especially while traveling at freeway speeds).
my note locks on really fast
under 10 seconds for sure.
If im out side its within 5 seconds.
My Skyrocket usually locked in around 10-15 seconds
my inspire....30 seconds.
my nav in the car....30 sec
this may be useful to you to get a little more info on what your gadget is doing with its unearthly beacons
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5lY2xpcHNpbS5ncHNzdGF0dXMyIl0.
Chief Geek said:
this may be useful to you to get a little more info on what your gadget is doing with its unearthly beacons
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5lY2xpcHNpbS5ncHNzdGF0dXMyIl0.
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Very useful tool. In addition to that one, I also use GPS Test, GPS Essentials, and GPS Status. Each brings something different to the party.
snovvman said:
Very useful tool. In addition to that one, I also use GPS Test, GPS Essentials, and GPS Status. Each brings something different to the party.
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Sounds like you need "Kick GPS - The 12 Step Program"
Really? Your complaining about 12 seconds to a gps lock? (regarding the OP)
Give me a break...
My DEDICATED GPS Tomtom unit takes over 2 minutes to get a lock, I consider it a blessing that my phone locks faster than a dedicated gps.
Good Lord...
My guess is you are one of those that complain about your browser taking more than 2 seconds to load as well.
Regarding gps stability, there are a couple of different things to try, namely one of the more rare things is calibrating the compass. There are many videos on Youtube, just search 'smart phone calibrate compass'. You'll find 3-4 different methods, any will likely work. And yes, the compass does affect the gps keeping a lock in speeds higher than 20 mph.
Another thing to try is downloading the latest gps satellite data. There are several apps available on the market that can do this (GPS Test, GPS Essentials, and GPS Status all do this).
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Really? Your complaining about 12 seconds to a gps lock? (regarding the OP)
Give me a break...
My DEDICATED GPS Tomtom unit takes over 2 minutes to get a lock, I consider it a blessing that my phone locks faster than a dedicated gps.
Good Lord...
My guess is you are one of those that complain about your browser taking more than 2 seconds to load as well.
Regarding gps stability, there are a couple of different things to try, namely one of the more rare things is calibrating the compass. There are many videos on Youtube, just search 'smart phone calibrate compass'. You'll find 3-4 different methods, any will likely work. And yes, the compass does affect the gps keeping a lock in speeds higher than 20 mph.
Another thing to try is downloading the latest gps satellite data. There are several apps available on the market that can do this (GPS Test, GPS Essentials, and GPS Status all do this).
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Why so excitable and quick to judge? "Give me a break..."? "Good Lord..."? Really?
Your TomTom uses GPS, not GLONASS and does not have Assisted GPS. GLONASS and A.GPS should allow a faster fix. With these new and additional technologies, the phone SHOULD get a much faster fix than your TomTom. You're comparing apples and oranges.
My Evo 3D, Galaxy Nexus, and other phones I metioned, with GPS (no GLONASS) and A.GPS will almost ALWAYS get a fix in 2-5 seconds. If enough research is done here at XDA, you will find that many newer devices, if working properly, *should* get a lock in under ten seconds. Your "DEDICATED GPS Tomtom" [sic] is a different and arguably less advanced animal.
Another example--the built-in GPS in my two vehicles lock IMMEDIATELY when the car is on. Why? Because they remember the last location, use brake sensors, steering angle sensors, and accelerometers to determine location. If they do not lock immediately, something is wrong.
If you re-read my original post--I am trying to figure out if others have the same problem, and attempting to understand what others are experiencing. At the same time, I provided information on GLONASS, in case other owners didn't know they had it.
For a just-released, $650 device, I expected mine to perform on-par with other phones. Perhaps mine is defective? I wanted to find out if I need a replacement. Last checked, this forum is about people asking questions, sharing information, and learning something. To that end, I am puzzled at your comments--it seems like *you're* the one who is complaining...
So yes, really!
littlewierdo said:
My guess is you are one of those that complain about your browser taking more than 2 seconds to load as well.
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Really? Really?!
Chief Geek said:
Sounds like you need "Kick GPS - The 12 Step Program"
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Yes, I suppose...
While I'm her--there is also F GPS (fake GPS, provides coordinate of your choice to the location manager), GPS to MMS (allows you to send a text/MMS with your current coordinates), and GPS Speedo (a nice GPS-based speedometer).
See the edited OP. I made an interesting observation today. It seems like GLONASS signals are less able to penetrate objects...
My Note's GPS performance is flawless and is my most loved feature of the device. Superquick and very accurate.
I use the GPS all the time for backpacking, motorcycling, running and of course general finding all the stores my wife makes me take her shopping on the weekend.
Even better than my previous iPhone 4 and 3g.
My Samsung Infuse's GPS was a disaster taking forever getting a lock, loosing it, placing on the next road over, and not performing if sitting in the middle of my car...constant frustration so I REALLY am happy with my stock Notes GPS.
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Mini Pro: GPS poor chip of software issue

Anyone know how to get this to work better? Anytime I'm in doors, sometimes when in a car I can't get a GPS lock.
Regards,
Mike
panamamike said:
Anyone know how to get this to work better? Anytime I'm in doors, sometimes when in a car I can't get a GPS lock.
Regards,
Mike
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You need open sky to receive the GPS transmission through your A-GPS, correct me if I am wrong.
So it is not possible to get the GPS lock when you are completely indoor or sometime in car.
rajdeepce said:
You need open sky to receive the GPS transmission through your A-GPS, correct me if I am wrong.
So it is not possible to get the GPS lock when you are completely indoor or sometime in car.
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It is possible on my Live with Walkman to get GPS lock while indoor(+ 2 floors above).
Usually GPS can take about 5-10 minutes to get a lock, how long did you wait?
Have you done any modifications to your phone?
Someguyfromhell said:
It is possible on my Live with Walkman to get GPS lock while indoor(+ 2 floors above).
Usually GPS can take about 5-10 minutes to get a lock, how long did you wait?
Have you done any modifications to your phone?
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I tried for about a minute. However, a friend with a razor was able to get a lock in a few seconds.
Regards,
Mike
A minute is not enough, especially for the first GPS fix. You can use aGPS to speed up the GPS fix, using your internet connection (WiFi or 3G) to help your phone find the satellites.
I have to agree with the OP. GPS on my mini pro is terrible. My old LG Optimus (the very first one) could get a precise location in seconds, but my mini pro sometimes takes 5-10 minutes, and has trouble keeping up with all the turns. Most of the time it only tells me to make a turn after I've already made it. Moving it up the dashboard (so it's clear of the car roof) helps but it's not very practical.
It's a shame because I love everything else about the phone :-(
I'm having difficulties believing you can get a real gps lock indoors.
The chipsets at the moment are just not made for that?
As mentioned in a previous post, you need a clear view of the sky, or at least be close to a window.
However, via a-gps you can have quit an accurate lock if it gets its location based on wifi. Based on cell signal, it's not as accurate.
My mini pro has an almost immediate lock outside, and sufficiently accurate one inside when I'm at home. But in the 2nd case it's not a lock via gps satellites
My 2 cents...
jvdv360 said:
I'm having difficulties believing you can get a real gps lock indoors.
The chipsets at the moment are just not made for that?
As mentioned in a previous post, you need a clear view of the sky, or at least be close to a window.
However, via a-gps you can have quit an accurate lock if it gets its location based on wifi. Based on cell signal, it's not as accurate.
My mini pro has an almost immediate lock outside, and sufficiently accurate one inside when I'm at home. But in the 2nd case it's not a lock via gps satellites
My 2 cents...
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First time and when using GPS after long time can take some minutes to get a lock. However, if you use A-GPS, you can get faster.
I use GPS Test Plus app to clear and update A-GPS by hand to get faster lock. Without it, I usually get lock in about 5 minutes, with it in a minute.
As mentioned, using Live with Walkman.

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