I'd like to set up a wireless charger setup in my car, either a dedicated one made for a car or I have no issue hacking the hardware to get a regular wireless charger set up. I noticed they mostly put out less than 1a of power. Is this sufficient to actually charge the N3 while the screen is on and navigation (waze) is running? I always have my screen on when I'm driving so need it to have enough power for this.
Anyone find a "high power" wireless charger yet?
I think the Note 3 is limited to accept 640mAh on wireless charging
I think the TYLT VU is the best/strongest charger on the market. I has multiple coils and really pumps out the juice.
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I think the TYLT VU is the best/strongest charger on the market. I has multiple coils and really pumps out the juice.
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Multiple coils doesn't increase charging rate, all it does is make it easier to position your phone.
The N3 won't charge faster than 640mah, it's limited by the kernel.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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GPS is usually a big energy hog. How many amps is your car charger?
You should be able to get away with a higher amperage charger, but the trade off may be reduced battery life.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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How fast does it discharge? I just went on an out of state trip last week and had gps on with the charger plugged in for several hours at a time. I didn't pay attention to the actual charge numbers, but it either discharges very gradually or charges very gradually. I could probably run it all day with the charger and gps without a problem. I don't recall the amp output of my car charger, but it is one of the cheap foreign models.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Reflash your ROM, dude. I had that problem on one of my initial GB ROM's where I had bad drain using GPS while charging in my car. I redownloaded and wiped everything and reflashed the ROM and everything was good.
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If you are running a custom ROM, you can use SetCPU (or any other CPU clock control app that allows profiles) to set max of 800MHz when plugged in. This should at least get you to even charge/discharge levels when plugged in and running GPS while driving. Probably will depend on your screen brightness.
I don't run GPS long term very often right now, but I was for a while and FWIW, I was able to stream pandora, run google maps with screen on, not have any lag, and get a slow charge from my car charger by limiting clock speed to 800MHz.
Your other option (and what I usually do) is turn off the screen during longer sections of GPS nav with no turns (like sections of highway). You'll still get audible notifications for the next turn/maneuver/interchange/whatever, and you can turn the display on then if you need visual along with audio nav. The phone shouldn't have any problem charging and running GPS with the screen off...
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Not all USB car chargers are alike. You need two things:
1. The car charger outputs higher current than 500ma. You need at least 700ma.
2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
Thanks for the tips guys.
My phone discharges at around 1% every 20 minutes or so. I've been doing things like turning the screen off during periods of downtime to help with this (actually charges when I do this).
I'm using cheapy car adapter actually that has two usb ports and 2 cigarette ports in it and I use that with a samsung branded usb cable.
Hm yeah I'll try and see if limiting the CPU will help and if it does perhaps I'll just do that from now on.
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2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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The correctly wired charger will typically short the USB data PINs. iPhone charges and most generic car chargers with UBS ports don't do that. Most HTC chargers and Motorola chargers will work on Samsung phones. You need take a look at your car charger to see how much amps it can supply (listed on the spec label). The PC usb can only output 500ma max per spec. It is not enough to charge the phone while keep the screen on, GPS running and 3G connection active. Your Samsung OEM wall charger is rated 700ma. So, you need a car charger that outputs at least 700ma.
You then need to verify from the phone that the particular charger is recorgnized by the phone as AC charger. Without that, the phone will only draw 500ma max.
So I made myself a wireless charging car dock for my DNA much like the one seen here minus the silly looking wooden blocks
http://www.qiwireless.com/mod-qi-wireless-charger-for-autocar-droid-dna-also-lumia-and-others-video/
While it's in the dock it is of course in car mode using CarHome Ultra with the screen on, gps'ing, and streaming music. But while charging I have seen the battery temp go from 84 f up to as high as 113 f in a 10 minute drive.
So my question is what temp is too high? I am thinking my problem could be do to the fact that I have powered the nokia charging pad of my car. The adapter it comes with has an output of 12V and my truck charges closer to 14V which is maybe turning up the output of the charging pad.
Sure would be nice if there were more accessories for stock features!
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So I made myself a wireless charging car dock for my DNA much like the one seen here minus the silly looking wooden blocks
http://www.qiwireless.com/mod-qi-wireless-charger-for-autocar-droid-dna-also-lumia-and-others-video/
While it's in the dock it is of course in car mode using CarHome Ultra with the screen on, gps'ing, and streaming music. But while charging I have seen the battery temp go from 84 f up to as high as 113 f in a 10 minute drive.
So my question is what temp is too high? I am thinking my problem could be do to the fact that I have powered the nokia charging pad of my car. The adapter it comes with has an output of 12V and my truck charges closer to 14V which is maybe turning up the output of the charging pad.
Sure would be nice if there were more accessories for stock features!
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Isnt the battery supposed to charge at 5v? That would be the easiest explanation for the heat.
make sure the pad only gets 12v's. To check use a multimeter to see what your truck is giving to the pad. The pad will only charge the phone at 5v and around 500ma. The wall charger gives the phone 5v 1A.
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make sure the pad only gets 12v's. To check use a multimeter to see what your truck is giving to the pad. The pad will only charge the phone at 5v and around 500ma. The wall charger gives the phone 5v 1A.
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Yeah that would be a problem. Voltage is what will kill the device first.
Gonna build me a little regulator to supply it a clean 12V at 1A as the wall adapter does.
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Gonna build me a little regulator to supply it a clean 12V at 1A as the wall adapter does.
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is that what the charging pad calls for? give it what your pad runs on not the phone.
I would use a car charger that runs at the phones default charging specs. And check out the difference in temps.
Your device is going to get really hot if you're streaming music and using GPS while charging even in a best case scenario. So I would first make sure that the USB charger runs cooler before worrying about wireless charging.
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[QUO TE=CharliesTheMan;41068488]I would use a car charger that runs at the phones default charging specs. nd check out the difference in temps.
our device is going to get really hot if you're streaming music and using GPS while charging even in a best case scenario. So I would first make sure that the USB charger runs cooler before worrying about wireless charging.
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Yeah been doing some testing with different variables and coming to the conclusion that it's a combo of charging and doing all those things at the same time. Biggest variable has been keeping it out of the windshield.
But Charles what do you think max temps should be that the battery should reach?
I just noticed your temps your saying your getting. Those are not very high for that kind of use and should be safe. Here is a pick of my battery and cpu just at idle, what are your cpu temps getting to?
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If you have a 12 volt / 120 volt inverter handy, you could try using the the original charger for the wireless pad, using 120v instead of 12v. The inverter would be a quick way to stabilize the 12v input to the wireless pad.
Hello everybody!
I've got two questions:
Since I'll be receiving my direly awaited S6 Edge 64gb tomorrow, I have two questions which I couldn't really get any good answers for.
The first one is about the speed of charging. Since the battery in the S6E can't be switched so easy, I'm a bit concerned about battery health, especially since I plan on using the phone for a long time (budget is tight). Now with my last phone (which unfortunately I had to sell in order to come up with the money for the S6E) I used one of my computers USB ports to charge the phone over night. I read somewhere, that it's better for the battery to be charged slowly and since my computer powers the front USB even when switched off, I always used it to slowly charge the phone overnight. It would be faster charging with a wall outlet, but I didnt need it to, so I figured it would be beneficial for the health of the battery.
Is that actually true? Is there maybe even some way to keep the phone from charging higher than 80%?
My second question is about wireless charging. I'd really like to get a wireless charger for my desk at work, however I will be using this ->
*cant post the link, it's the "Galaxy S6 Edge Case, Spigen [CURVED BUMPER] Neo Hybrid Series Case for Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge - Satin Silver (SGP11420)" case
case on the phone. Are there any wireless chargers, that will go "through" that case?
If so, do these chargers charge so fast, that they let the battery health deteriorate? Do they stop charging when the battery is full or is there danger for overcharging or heat building up because of the case?
Thank you guys very much in advance for answers, I'm just really looking forward to the phone and I'm eager to do everything right ^^:fingers-crossed:
You shouldn't worry really. There are rampant unjustified myths about quick-charging. If your device is designed for that feature, the processor and software work in conjunction to prevent damage to the battery. The turbo charger provides large amperage to charge quickly, then reduces at an appropriate level. I've used turbo or quick charging since the Motorola Droid Maxx 4 years ago. Today, those Maxx still function as well as the first day. I do not purchase any device that does not have turbo charging. As far as wireless charging, a decent charging plate should have no issue. I use only TYLT and I build furniture around these things. I put glass top over them and never have problems charging.
Thanks so much
Do all the wireless chargers feature "Turbo charging", or do you mean charging with a wall outlet by that?
I've read in some reviews, that in combination with the S6, the tylt charger tends to fully charge the phone, then stop charging, then after a while commences charging again, leading to the phone screen lighting up and the "phone is charging" notification sound playing, then turning off again when the battery is fully charged and so on.
Did you experience any of this?
@myh0mie I guess we are in the same state, I'm also receiving my S6 Edge on tuesday and have been having the same questions as you have about charging this thread will come in handy
@quangtran1 If you use the fast charger on your S6 Edge, are you also experiencing the screen rotation issues people are suggesting that are caused by the fast charger? I really wanna know how i should be charging my phone to avoid damage once i receive it. Thanks in advance
I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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I myself do not have the screen rotation issue with fast charging. I do know, however, that Samsung has acknowledged this on "a very small number of S6 devices, and has the solution to resolve it". Samsung did not disclose whether this was a hardware or software issue. @myh0mie Wireless charging does not offer fast charging. Fast charging comes from the 2-amp wall block.
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Oh cool then it's good to hear that it seems like it's NOT the fast charger that causing the issue and the fact that Samsung already has a solution to it
I haven't had a screen rotation issue either, on a 64GB Edge (AT&T).
As far as methods of charging, seems like the "Adaptive Fast Charging" is definitely the fastest way to charge the phone. The feature only seems to work with the packaged charger, though. I have a few 5V 2Amp chargers that don't charge my phone as fast as the packaged Samsung charger. It's extremely effective when you're very low on battery life, below 25%.
If you look at the Samsung charger label, it says it outputs at 9V 1.67Amp OR 5V 2Amp. The 5V 2A is standard on many chargers. The 9V 1.67A must be the Adaptive Fast Charging.
For wireless charging, I purchased a few PowerBot Qi chargers (very good price and reviews on Amazon) and supplied them with 5V 2A power to keep myself topped off at work and overnight. To me, they seem to charge the phone at about the same speed as a generic 5V 1A power source.
My last phone was a HTC One M7 and I kept a close eye on the temperature with an app called Cool Tool. I still run the M7 in the same operating environment as my S6 and have noticed that the S6 runs 10-15 degrees (Fahrenheit) cooler than the M7 in both charging and non-charging states. Hope that helps.
I have the S6 edge with the TYLT desk charger and the TYLT car charger dock. Neither of them charge the phone quickly at all. I am not a fan of either really, but I use the desk charger on my desk at work and it is fine to keep the phone topped up throughout the work day (I forget it's even there). The car one, however, is going back. It charges hellishly slow, especially if you run any tasks like music streaming or GPS. Not a fan.
Choetech 3 coil fast charger
http://amzn.com/B017U9FVKW $36.00
Fast Charge 2.0 AC Adapter (needed for our S7 because OEM S7 AC Adapter will NOT work!!)
http://amzn.com/B00X4U1KD4 $9.00
The 3 coil plate is incredibly convenient to charge and is much more forgiving for a good connect for the wireless charging to begin. I have a Ringke case and also read even the Otter cases are no challenge for a contact point since it has 3 coils to choose from. The Quick charge 2.0 ac adapter was one of the cheapest that were also Qualcomm 2.0 certified. You don't need a 3.0 because our S7's are only 2.0 compliant. Don't waste money buying a Quick Charge adapter that is 3.0 or over $10.
For me this has worked really well with my case and I can charge fully in what I would guess 2.5 hours. I usually just casually have it charging well before the battery is low so I can't really tell you except I did get a full charge around 2 hrs before which for a wireless Qi really is a fast charge compared to the old 0.5 amp output days.
Take my advice for what it is and let me spare you the hour of research in comparing hardware and learning about what Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 is and why our S7s don't even need the 3.0 version.
I might go for a substantially more expensive three-coil wireless charging pad, if it were my only one. But the convenience of wireless charging is so great, that I have one near my bed, one at work, one in my home office, and one in the kitchen. Two coils are good enough for me. Most of the time I get my S7 placed on the first try.
FWIW, I think fast wireless charging pads have become commodity items. I have both Choetech and Pleson, and would buy on price.
Can you tell me what rate you get?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I have a cheapo wireless and get between 300 and 550 mah
Got this one too, I do like it.
Battery monitor tells me it's just over 700mA, but it's during nights, when sleep tracking is active too.
i have the car remote charger too, but that one can barely keep up while driving with Waze (screen always in night colors, low intensity)
btw: temperature rises to 41 degrees celcius.
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Got this one too, I do like it.
Battery monitor tells me it's just over 700mA, but it's during nights, when sleep tracking is active too.
i have the car remote charger too, but that one can barely keep up while driving with Waze (screen always in night colors, low intensity)
btw: temperature rises to 41 degrees celcius.
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Yeah.... I've noticed this as well, unfortunately it only "fast charges" with the screen off. With the screen on you get around 200-300mA. For me, 200-300mA is not good enough and I lose probably 1% every half hour driving. I have however noticed that if the phone is at 95% it will pull more current from the wireless charger and will stay at 100%.
I am trying to charge my LG v60 tmobile in my 2021 Prius prime. it has magnetic charging pad. the phone start charging but then the charger start flashing light in few seconds that phone is not charged. no matter how many time you tried it wont charge. I remove the cover and try every other way to charge but it wont charge.
took it to Toyota they tested and finally said its your phone the charging pad is fine.
anyone experiencing the same or have any idea please share. thank you
In my experience, this phone is picky about chargers - both wired and Qi. I found a great holder & wireless charger similar to this one, then paired it with a high-power 12v adapter. Unfortunately, neither of these are available any more. But you should be able to find similar products that, when combined, will give your V60 enough juice. I can't recall at the moment, but it may also be high-speed wireless charging -- something even harder to do with this phone.
You could also try removing your phone from the case if it's in one. A bare phone will get it into closer proximity with the charging coils.
I don't know how the magnetic charging pad is wired in your car, but perhaps there's a way to get it connected to a higher output 12v circuit. Check YouTube or the car forums, etc.
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In my experience, this phone is picky about chargers - both wired and Qi. I found a great holder & wireless charger similar to this one, then paired it with a high-power 12v adapter. Unfortunately, neither of these are available any more. But you should be able to find similar products that, when combined, will give your V60 enough juice. I can't recall at the moment, but it may also be high-speed wireless charging -- something even harder to do with this phone.
You could also try removing your phone from the case if it's in one. A bare phone will get it into closer proximity with the charging coils.
I don't know how the magnetic charging pad is wired in your car, but perhaps there's a way to get it connected to a higher output 12v circuit. Check YouTube or the car forums, etc.
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It charges at home with qi charger and wired both ways.
pits the car pad that stops charging.
I have tried everything with and without case the result is same.
toyota said the car pad gives as much juice it wants it’s interactive. But it’s your phone not syncing with pad.
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It charges at home with qi charger and wired both ways.
pits the car pad that stops charging.
I have tried everything with and without case the result is same.
toyota said the car pad gives as much juice it wants it’s interactive. But it’s your phone not syncing with pad.
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Not syncing doesn't seem like much of an answer, and doesn't explain why it's not charging. Did you check the car forums?