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I thought the galaxy s2 had gorilla glass? Got two tiny scratches on the screen, kinda pissed because the phone is so new there are no screen protectors available.
I keep my phone in a pouch in my pocket, I thought this gorilla glass was unscratchable????
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there are no screen protectors available
Loads available .
Sharp object is the probable case of scratch but odd as its in a case .
jje
a key in your pocket might not scratch the screen, but some grains of sand for example can really mess with it.
even gorilla glass doesn't help against sand grains.
I keep repeating this... but you most likely scratched off some of the oleophobic coating, not the actual screen. It may look like scratches in certain angles or under certain light, but I bet you it's the coating.
dinan said:
I keep repeating this... but you most likely scratched off some of the oleophobic coating, not the actual screen. It may look like scratches in certain angles or under certain light, but I bet you it's the coating.
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So really hard glass covered by an easily scratched coating. If true, is there an easy, cheap fix? If not, then sounds like a screen protector is a good idea, even if the glass itself never scratches. Which kind of defeats the purpose of the Gorilla glass and the coating.
Nothing is unscratchable, unbreakable, unbeatable. GorillaGlass has the advatage of being resistant to the "usual" sources of scratching, but dust and sand are tricky bastards, that practically surrounds us and our precious phones.
When I first got my galaxy s, as careful as I was I still managed to get a few small scratches on it within the span of a few days. The only way to see them was when the screen was very clean and there was a direct source of light on it. Looking back it probably was a bit of sand or something sand like.
I ended up getting an sgp ultra clear protector. I would really recommend it once its out. But don't worry about small scratches. As long as you don't notice them when the screens on will be fine.
I think I'll end up cleaning my pockets religiously once I get my s2.
I think we all want to keep our babies scratch- and fingerprint free. With protectors, cloths and cases we make our best effords. On the other hand, not many of us keep our phones for more than a year (I had my SGS for six months before switching to the SGS2). So, for whom are we keeping the display in mint condition? The next buyer? I'm not saying that we all should throw our phones in pockets full of sand, keys and rusty nails, I'm just saying that common sense will keep our displays away from serious harm. To get annoyed over scratches that are only visible in bright, artificial light is probably not healthy.
MrDeacon said:
Nothing is unscratchable, unbreakable, unbeatable. GorillaGlass has the advatage of being resistant to the "usual" sources of scratching, but dust and sand are tricky bastards, that practically surrounds us and our precious phones.
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I understand. I have a Gorilla glass phone and have always used a screen protector. Mostly because I read many user reports very shortly after the phone came out about getting scratches for no apparent reason. I can't know if it was the coating or the glass itself that got scratched.
My point was if they coat Gorilla glass with a more easily scratchable film, and you have to cover it with a protector anyway then the purpose of the hard glass and the oleophobic coating are both pretty much defeated. Unless you prefer to go naked, have less fingerprints and put up with the scratches. There really needs to be a coating that's as hard as the glass.
I use a protector because it's easily replaced, so new surface cheap and simple anytime I need. Without it scratches seem difficult and/or expensive to fix.
I agree. But it becomes somewhat ridiculous when we're just stepping up on the screen protection ladder. So, we have GorillaGlass, which is protecting our display from scratches. Then we're putting on a screen protector to avoid scratching the scratch protective glass. And just in case, let's put the phone in a leather case or a pouch, so not to harm the screen protector. It's like having sex wearing three condoms; you will be safe as hell, but the feeling and the experience will be practically non-existent.
I was almost certain that the whole point of Gorilla Glass was to provide a stronger glass to prevent the screen from breaking upon impact - say, dropping the phone.
I've seen a billion iPhone 3GS's with shattered screens (wtf teens?!!!?).
Gorilla Glass is supposed to stop that from happening. It will scratch as easily as anything else.
Thanks for the feedback, one question tho. I've read that you can get rid of scratches on glass using some Cerium Oxide paste, has anyone tried it?
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SuperTheMando said:
I was almost certain that the whole point of Gorilla Glass was to provide a stronger glass to prevent the screen from breaking upon impact - say, dropping the phone.
I've seen a billion iPhone 3GS's with shattered screens (wtf teens?!!!?).
Gorilla Glass is supposed to stop that from happening. It will scratch as easily as anything else.
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Corning says increased scratch resistance is one of its features, as well as the break resistance you mention.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/faqs/all?page=1
"Gorilla Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip, or break."
http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/corning/gorilla-glass-product-information-sheet/12631-67069.html
"High resistance to scratch damage"
But if they put an oleophobic coating on it the scratch resistance is nearly pointless. So you're rationale could make the most sense.
I agree that sand can really mess it up. My S2 has a scratch on the screen which can only be explained by sand from the beach. Even though I never brought my phone to the beach, it may have gotten inbetween my Samsung leather flip case somewhere, sometime, somehow in my shorts pocket.
I keep my phone away from small change and keys and all of a sudden, there is a small 3mm scratch near the middle to the right.
Honestly though? Everything about this phone is better than my old Motorola Milestone (which has been to many beaches), but the Milestone's glass touchscreen seems more durable.
So note to everyone with an S2 in a case: apparently sand can destroy the screen.
Wow i just noticed today ...I got the screen at the perfect angle of light & my screen is riddled with 1 inch scratches
I treat my GS2 like my baby ...it only goes in & out of my pocket
This is what made me to literally throw my iPhone in the garbage & I stopped developing for iPhone ...because of there marketing lies
I am developing a website to expose Samsung of all there lies ....it is probably totally true that Samsung endorses/pays/ gives people free devices to make YouTube videos .....To mislead people into thinking that Gorilla Glass doesn't scratch .....a crock of [email protected]%t !!
If I put my device in a series of angles I can see......mmmmmmmmmmmm 2 very, very tiny scratches. It takes like 10 min in proper light to spot them.
BTW: I did try to scratch it with a couple of keys back in may to show off; nailed it.
Actually rethinking ....I shouldn't be so hard on Samsung ...there maybe other factors involved ..that are sensible
& Corning/Gorilla glass is manufactured by Corning ...so it's not really "assumed" Samsungs fault for claiming that it is unscratchable !
But was wrong .....its Corning that claims there glass is unscratchable ...lol
Yes sand would scratch for sure ...but is it only sand !? ..or other rock particles ....metal doesn't seem to do anything ...maybe depending on type of metal ....winter road salt ?
Ehhm a key ..i think is way to blunt to scratch .....it could be from hitting the metal rivets on front jean pockets ...when sliding it out of my pocket ...but those are blunt also
Or so i either have sand in my pants or diamond particles :silly:
Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
jje
Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
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Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
Pwgadget said:
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Flowlance said:
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Ok, i just got my first scratch, never had it with SGS but here it is, and i always put it alone in my pocket.
So much advertising for what?
You didn't use a screenguard?
So do you think gorilla glass is scratch proof or just harder to scratch.
Is it deep or just the coating on top?
Suggest getting a screen protector maybe. I have one tiny scratch but could have been avoided with protection.
I remember life before gorilla glass.
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I was using the phone for a few days after i got it without a screen protector. I knew it was gorilla glass and stuff, but something inside kept gnawing me about getting a screen protector.
Just buy a screen protector and have that mental peace.
Better safe than sorry
Gorrila baby skin
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
Yep, got a tiny scratch as well out of seemingly no where.. it's definitely more fragile than my partners iPhone 4 which gets yanked in and out of her handbag daily vs my careful nurturing
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Well,that sucks.
Still scratch free here without protector
On milestone and droid 2 global gorila glass I never had a scratch having each one about a year and with no screen protector at all...
Maybe the cover for not having so many finger prints can make gorilla glass less "gorila" on SGS2?
Cheers
buxz777 said:
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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Dammit, yesterday i went to the beach with the phone, sand may be the reason of the scratch
I already have a screen protector, but i didn't set it because there was no reason to me, now i got one
Yeah, I scratched mine too but I've kind of got used to it. It's a little annoying I guess.
Anyway, suppose it's a bit like shutting the door now the horse has bolted but might as well get a protector. Don't they change the feel of the screen though? I've always thought they might be kind of annoying.
As a user of both sgs and sgs2, I find the Gorilla glass on sgs2 to be far superior in every department
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You folks are aware that no one ever said gorilla glass is hard as a diamond, right?
In fact, no substantial claims about it's hardness were *ever* made. It's supposed to have a better tensile strength and be less breakable, not harder.
In fact, the treatment it gets plus the oleophobic coatings and whatnot might even make it more susceptible to scratching than regular glass.
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily. I made money repairing the hd2 because it couldn't take a bump.
ecce said:
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily.
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Shatter or scratch?
There IS a difference, you know.
Hardness and (tensile) strength aren't the same thing.
And they're usually inversely proportional.
Materials that have a high hardness (resistance to scratching) are usually VERY brittle.
Materials that have a high tensile strength (resistance to breaking) are usually VERY scratchable.
Well,everything is destroyable in therm of a bad usage,even this "mighty" glass.The real example is Titanic,the unsinkable ship in my a..
I also have very small scratches, there was nothing in my pocket when it happened!
My SGS was stronger, but the SGSII's screen is sweeter!
I decided to buy a brando screen protector, as far as i know they're washable
The sooner i receive my screen protector the better, im ultra careful not to have anything else in my pocket like keys or coins when then phone is there in case i do get a scratch,so far so good but after spending all that cahs on this phone it's important to get a screen protector.
This is one of the weak points with our phone, "hard"ware wise.
I also got a small scratch from putting it in my pocket without anything else. Compared I never got a protector for my old smart phone (competitor brand and os ) and only a few small scratches in some years, I was a bit disappointed.
Though, that scratch isn't that bad, and now that my protective foil arrived it can be neither seen nor felt.
But: Without the cheap foil the "feeling" was better
Still, I like my new phone
Well I'm kinda pissed my phone already has a scratch on the screen after 1 month and its annoying the crap out of me. My captivate doesnt have any scratches after a year of use without protecters, does the SGS2 not have gorilla glass? I love everything about this phone except the weak screen and will be frustrated if I have to worry about scratches on my screen. I hate screen protecters die to the feel of them on my finger tips.
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Well I'm kinda pissed my phone already has a scratch on the screen after 1 month and its annoying the crap out of me. My captivate doesnt have any scratches after a year of use without protecters, does the SGS2 not have gorilla glass? I love everything about this phone except the weak screen and will be frustrated if I have to worry about scratches on my screen. I hate screen protecters die to the feel of them on my finger tips.
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Hi Black,
in every SPEC list that has been officially published and watching all the youtube vidoes the unit is supposed to sport Gorilla Glass...
Very sorry to hear about your scratch but know that it's wasn't caused by a metal object... It would have to be some sort of STONE or CERAMIC, kitchen countertop, flooring, bathroom tile, that would have scratched your SGS2...
Totally agree with the screen protector though... just very sorry about the scratch... Ouch!
It does have Gorilla Glass... but that dosent guarantee that your screen will never get scratches.
I keep my phone in a separate pocket from keys and everything else so it dosent get scratches.
These phones aren't going to be resistant to scratches no matter what they claim. I've only had my phone for a month and if I did not have a screen protector on I would be in the same boat as you. Cheaper to replace screen protectors than the glass.
Gorilla glass is a bullshiet gimmick anyway. I had a Motor-Atrix and kept that shiet in a lint-free cloth pouch everywhere I went and was meticulous in the amount of care I gave it to ensure it wouldn't have any scratches on it. Well... lo and behold one day I take a look at it, there are scratches all over it from who knows what.
I think gorilla glass is meant to ensure the screen itself doesn't shatter into a million pieces when dropped instead of preventing minute scratches. But as far as scratches go, that's a bunch of bullshiet. Whenever someone gets a new phone they should slap a screen protector on it as soon as possible.
Like the dude before me said: "Cheaper to replace screen protectors than the glass." He speaks the troof.
I don't think you know what gorilla glass is...
Gorilla glass isn't totally scratch-proof, no glass is.
The reason why people like gorilla glass is because it doesn't get too many scratches and is very shatterproof.
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nothing is 100% scratch proof.
If you take a sharp and hard object and scratch the surface of hardened steel, you can create scratch. Gorilla glass is not as hard as some of the hardened steel.
I used my Captivate (Gorilla Glass) for over a year with no screen protector, only the bodyglove rubber case and never had a single scratch on the screen. It even slid off the roof of my car at 25MPH onto the street one morning when I forgot I had set it up there.
I now have the SGS2 and same deal. I have a casemate barely there whose lip comes up and keeps the glass from touching flat surfaces but otherwise no other screen protection and although it is only a month old it still looks like it did when I took it out of the box...after I wipe the fingerprints off of it.
A guy I work with has a DroidX that is over a year old and his looks like it was dragged behind a 4x4 off road at high speeds for an hour after he had it for 6 months.
It all just depends on where and how you use your phone. When in doubt, buy a protector.
Its got gorilla glass alright BUT so did my last phone (samsung Focus) and it scratched much easier then I expected, hence the first thing I did when I got my GS2 was put a screen protector on.. Gorilla glass's scratch resistance is a bit overrated..
wow, i used my cappy for over a year (~15 months) without a screen protector or case and never got a single scratch on it front or back... i don't plan on putting either on my SGS2 either. i guess i'm just lucky in that regard.
I had exactly the same mind set but my sgs2 scratched.
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Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, but not scratch proof.
From my experience if you put the screen with a key ring all the time it will still get scratch.
Gorilla glass is mostly shatter proof then scratch proof. the difference is if you drop the phone you may get a scratch but most likely not shatter the glass.
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I don't know, I used my Captivate for about a year, and I assumed it would be indestructable with the Gorilla Glass and the Body Glove Case. Bad news, some parts from the top got chipped off, either from throwing the phone against the wall and maybe also the several times I dropped it in a parking lot and down a few steps. But through all of this, the screen remains scratch free, except with one really small scratch that only appears in a certain angle with a lot of light. Just wish the rest of the phone was as indestructable as the Gorilla Glass tbh...
I survived over a year with a naked Captivate with no scratches. My wife on the other hand scratched the back almost immediately, and did quite a number on the screen. She just throws hers into her purse, I have a dedicated, empty, phone pocket, and always face the glass in, not out.
The gorilla glass isn't perfect, but its better than others out there.
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It has gorilla glass... I use it pretty rougg with keys and coub still no scratches so far..
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Go to Owen's Corning and read what they say about Gorilla Glass. It is much harder than generic glass, but it's still glass, and there are lots of things you encounter in every day life that are harder.
As others have stated, it's stronger but not impervious. Individual experience will vary. It's not that you dropped it that matters, it's how it landed, and that's going to be different *every* time a phone gets dropped. Some landings will be worse than others. Doesn't mean the glass isn't as good, only that you had a less "lucky" outcome...
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
http://db.tt/O2iOYjki
Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
kekkle said:
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
Screenshot of the bought screenprotectors:
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
mrsatan said:
That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
kekkle said:
The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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