Hey guys,
just want to know, if the Linaro Toolchain is implemented in some kind of ROM or something like that.
The Optimus 2x got it already. And really -> I have never seen some smoother Android Experience... This is nutz!!!
Would be nice if someone could implement this in some SGS2 ROMs.
I've heard that it might be added to CyanogenMod.
So after the announcements today at Google I/O 2012 about Jellybean, I'm curious to know the differences of this "Butter" approach on Jellybean (Android 4.1) vs Linaro improvements of Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0.4)...
this should just be an open discussion about the two and the techniques used to make both of them faster... i've ran a few ROMs with a version of the Linaro toolchain and it does seem a bit smoother than the stock version of that same ROM...
Not much online about "Butter" yet... but here's a video of Linaro in case you missed the memo on that one...
Maybe the project Butter is only the integration of Linaro
Heronger said:
Maybe the project Butter is only the integration of Linaro
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I think in the same way!
And Google will not waste time when they knows the existence of Android Linaro.
Nori_Wave said:
I think in the same way!
And Google will not waste time when they knows the existence of Android Linaro.
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This maybe right but they would need to fix it and that maybe why they renamed it.
this is something to research, i hope the linaro dudes are rewarded in some manner.
i'm runnning a JB rom and it has a lot of new features, but most important (and most difficult I'd think) is the awesome performance boost.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/106075758531242552855/posts/PgzJLfDB8sg
BAD_BOY_KIEV said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/106075758531242552855/posts/PgzJLfDB8sg
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Great read if you haven't read it yet... so he's basically saying that 4.1 WITH some additional linaro tweaks could run even faster... that's insane to think considering how blazingly fast jb already is... thoughts on that?
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Hello,
I have tried to search kernels which are compiled with Linaro toolchain but I cannot orient in it. Can please anyone post here kernels which are compiled by Linaro toolchains here? (Jelly bean only).
festr said:
Hello,
I have tried to search kernels which are compiled with Linaro toolchain but I cannot orient in it. Can please anyone post here kernels which are compiled by Linaro toolchains here? (Jelly bean only).
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Probably none. It's better/easier to use the toolchain from Google, that way you can be sure there won't be any problems compiling and you won't get any bugs from using an experimental toolchain.
Linaro's changes are being merged/considered for merging upstream. So as Google updates their toolchain we'll get the optimizations made by Linaro (and others).
If you want to live on the bleeding edge you're welcome to build with Linaro's toolchain. I'd suggest building Android as well as the kernel if you do that though.
I have used kernel on SGS 1 compiled by Linaro toolchain and the performance gain was outstanding. So thats the main reason I'm asking if someone already made experimental kernel compiled by Linaro for SGS 3. The SGS1 was pretty stable and I still have it on my old SGS 1.
Actually the performance gain from the Linaro TC is minimal, nothing outstanding. So don't even sweat it dude. Go on with the stock toolchains.
At least it was noticable difference on SGS 1 with linaro / without linaro. But it is only my expirience without any science background.
You have tried Linaro compiled kernel on SGS 3?
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Actually the performance gain from the Linaro TC is minimal, nothing outstanding. So don't even sweat it dude. Go on with the stock toolchains.
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Yes exactly, the benefits were minimal at best.
Outstanding is waaaayyyyy off the mark.
(I've used linaro kernels on gnex, the exact same source (Franco's kernel) one built using linaro tool chain, the other using the Google tool chain.)The difference was negligible.
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Thank you for sharing expirience. That is totally in oposite to my expirience on SGS1
Perseus at least is compiled with linaro toolchain.
b-eock said:
Actually the performance gain from the Linaro TC is minimal, nothing outstanding. So don't even sweat it dude. Go on with the stock toolchains.
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The performance in SIII is minimal, ok. BUT USE LESS CPU THAN THE USUAL KERNEL.
and this is GOOD FOR NOT SPEND TO MUCH BATTERY...
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Perseus at least is compiled with linaro toolchain.
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I actually reverted to using the standard toolchain, there were some bugs with the Linaro causing games to crash. Anyway lets get this myth busted once and for all: kernel compilation optimizations are almost useless. The kernel is there for system management and control, there is no performance critical parts in it or large computations being done. These are all parts of the operating system, so your ROM needs to be compiled with these optimizations to see any effect, especially graphics drivers and things like that.
The kernel actually do a lot of stuff. Graphic drivers is also as kernel module. I have heard from other developers that compiling android with LInaro do not bring any noticable gain. Its intended to speedup the kernel.
festr said:
The kernel actually do a lot of stuff. Graphic drivers is also as kernel module. I have heard from other developers that compiling android with LInaro do not bring any noticable gain. Its intended to speedup the kernel.
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Graphics drivers are not part of the kernel, the GPU platform drivers are. There are no graphical computations or complex things done on the kernel, the kernel just does low level management stuff.
Actually to argue on that I have to learn more. All in all, this speeks for itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQRYmYip6Q
But anyway - it seems that some work of Linaro has been adopted by Goodle for Jelly bean.
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Actually to argue on that I have to learn more. All in all, this speeks for itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrQRYmYip6Q
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That was the entire system built with the linaro toolchaim (ROM + Kernel) and its doing synthetic benchmarks, take from that what you will.
Also you are arguing with the wrong guy here, if anyone knows about this stuff its Andreilux.
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According to +Jean-Baptiste Queru, We've already merged some of Linaro's changes into AOSP (and therefore into Google's internal master branch), a few weeks ago. Some more are pending review and look promising.
Hey guys,
I've seen a bunch of new kernels and roms pop up lately toting linaro toolchain patches and optimizations, specifically -03.
I found out what Linaro toolchain is through my own searching - Linaro is basically a non-profit organization a bunch of companies like Samsung and ARM to optimize Linux (in this case android) on the ARM architecture.
I also understand that they've been around since 2010, and Cyanogenmod along with Google have used their patched to optimize android to make it 30-100% faster (in benchmarks)
Lately I've been seeing a lot of this -03 popping up everywhere. Could someone explain to me what this -03 is about? thanks
..anybody?
Can any of the existing Tbolt kernels be compiled using a newer toolchain for better performance?
Looks like Linaro 4.6 works on 2.3.7.
http://www.linaro.org/downloads/1111/
I love leankernel, zoom, etc., but maybe we could squeeze a bit more out of them?