[Q] [Help] New to rooting - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hello,
I am really new to rooting and custom roms. I've looked everywhere and can't seem to find a tutorial on how to root the S4-i545 on NC5. I don't understand custom recovery, and overall I'm just a really bad noob at this. Could I be linked to an informative tutorial to help me better understand things? Also, if there is a tutorial on how to root the i545 on NC5 that would be fantastic.
I'm really stuck and I've been researching for the past few days and still haven't come across anything helpful..
Thanks!

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Reconde said:
Hello,
I am really new to rooting and custom roms. I've looked everywhere and can't seem to find a tutorial on how to root the S4-i545 on NC5. I don't understand custom recovery, and overall I'm just a really bad noob at this. Could I be linked to an informative tutorial to help me better understand things? Also, if there is a tutorial on how to root the i545 on NC5 that would be fantastic.
I'm really stuck and I've been researching for the past few days and still haven't come across anything helpful..
Thanks!
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rooting and custom roms loading are not for the faint of heart. Going to NC5 is fairly complex process and requires alot of patience and alot knowledge concerning odin process as using odin is key part of the inst all of downgrading. I take it your phone is already NC5 and you took the OTA?

decaturbob said:
rooting and custom roms loading are not for the faint of heart. Going to NC5 is fairly complex process and requires alot of patience and alot knowledge concerning odin process as using odin is key part of the inst all of downgrading. I take it your phone is already NC5 and you took the OTA?
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Yes. I downloaded the OTA from Verizon for 4.4.2. I've heard many times that a NC5 root is not available, so is there any way you know to downgrade back to 4.3 for root? I understand there is a post by surge on how to upgrade to NC5 and keep root after that, but I can't seem to find a post on how to downgrade back to 4.3

Reconde said:
Yes. I downloaded the OTA from Verizon for 4.4.2. I've heard many times that a NC5 root is not available, so is there any way you know to downgrade back to 4.3 for root? I understand there is a post by surge on how to upgrade to NC5 and keep root after that, but I can't seem to find a post on how to downgrade back to 4.3
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Read the following: from Surge1223.
That will allow you to downgrade to 4.3, root it, then eventually upgrade to 4.4 while retaining root.
You do NOT want to downgrade to 4.3 if you've installed 4.4. The kernel modules for 4.3 won't work unless you run bypasslkm at every boot, which appears to be a challenge for a number of people. Once you've started the NC5 upgrade, you really want to be on 4.4.
If you're still on 4.3 (MK2) and want to upgrade to NC5, I'd recommend using this. It's a lot easier to do, but it only applies if your MK2 system is basically factory stock but rooted (or if you can get it back to stock.)

I've gotten my answer on downgrading, could someone please explain to me what recovery is?
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k1mu said:
Read the following: from Surge1223.
That will allow you to downgrade to 4.3, root it, then eventually upgrade to 4.4 while retaining root.
You do NOT want to downgrade to 4.3 if you've installed 4.4. The kernel modules for 4.3 won't work unless you run bypasslkm at every boot, which appears to be a challenge for a number of people. Once you've started the NC5 upgrade, you really want to be on 4.4.
If you're still on 4.3 (MK2) and want to upgrade to NC5, I'd recommend using this. It's a lot easier to do, but it only applies if your MK2 system is basically factory stock but rooted (or if you can get it back to stock.)
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Ha, as a newcomer I can confirm that following Surge's method is not the easiest but I was able to pull it off on the first try. Now currently Using NC5 4.4.2 rooted and running smoothly. I'm going to try to run Hyperdrive's newest release as soon as the rom download is finished.
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Reconde said:
I've gotten my answer on downgrading, could someone please explain to me what recovery is?
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You may have read this already but... there are a lot of useful noobie links you can find regarding general info in the General section! And by saying this I mean that... I read those couple of weeks back and its nothing from another world. Good luck!

Reconde said:
I've gotten my answer on downgrading, could someone please explain to me what recovery is?
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There's three ways you can boot your android device.
First is normal mode. That's the way it nomally boots, running the full operating system.
The second is downloader mode. This mode allows you to flash new software images using ODIN.
The third is recovery mode. Factory recovery allows you to flash updates, wipe the stock ROM, factory reset, etc. A custom recovery allows you to flash arbitrary updates (those which aren't signed by Samsung).
Phones running MDK bootloader can have a custom recovery that allows you to flash nonstandard ROMs.
Past MDK, this requires the use of Safestrap recovery.

Quick question - where would I put necessary files on my SD card? Under which directory?
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Reconde said:
Quick question - where would I put necessary files on my SD card? Under which directory?
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Put on extsd card..whatever name u want to use
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[Q] Updating MDK and ME7

I asked a similar question back in October, but fell out of the loop again and didn't want to necro an old post. I just want to verify that the information I got back then is still relavent.
Is installing custom ROMs still the best way to bring my MDK S4 up to the current version? If so, what should I be looking for in a ROM title to tell me that it's just a stock ROM that gives the same experience as the OTA? Someone mentioned Deodex'd in my last post, but I have no idea what that means or if it's what I should be looking for.
And for an S4 that came stock with ME7? Should my girlfriend (with an ME7 update) just take the newest OTA and root that, or is there a benefit to sticking with ME7 and installing a ROM? If the answer is to go with a ROM then she'll want the stock new OTA experience as well for now, are there any ME7 ROMs available that can do that?
Thanks again guys!
Don't touch your MDK S4. Leave it on MDK with Loki. It's practically an unlocked bootloader with actual TWRP and CWM. You can still install 4.3 TouchWiz stock ROMs on it because you can change the kernel. Plus you can run AOSP ROMs, which is awesome.
Reonar_Dauth said:
I asked a similar question back in October, but fell out of the loop again and didn't want to necro an old post. I just want to verify that the information I got back then is still relavent.
Is installing custom ROMs still the best way to bring my MDK S4 up to the current version? If so, what should I be looking for in a ROM title to tell me that it's just a stock ROM that gives the same experience as the OTA? Someone mentioned Deodex'd in my last post, but I have no idea what that means or if it's what I should be looking for.
And for an S4 that came stock with ME7? Should my girlfriend (with an ME7 update) just take the newest OTA and root that, or is there a benefit to sticking with ME7 and installing a ROM? If the answer is to go with a ROM then she'll want the stock new OTA experience as well for now, are there any ME7 ROMs available that can do that?
Thanks again guys!
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You're girls me7 s4 might as well update to mj7 or mk2 (4.3) as then she'll still be using Safestrap. Mostly everyone is running Hyperdrive anyways. Great performance and battery life with that. Update it, throw Safestrap 3.71 on there then Hyperdrive 12....pretty much bug free.
As far as you're MDK phone just grab whatever AOSP 4.3 or 4.4 ROM you like. You're lucky to have that phone!!
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I have ME7 on my phone and decided to update to be compatible with hyperdrive.
I started the installation like 6 hours ago; is it supposed to take this long?
I had it rooted and got rid of all the bloatware from Verizon using titanium. Would that have something to do with it? Otherwise, I don't know what's going on. Thank you, and I apologize if this was addressed in any other thread.
TheDarkAbed said:
I have ME7 on my phone and decided to update to be compatible with hyperdrive.
I started the installation like 6 hours ago; is it supposed to take this long?
I had it rooted and got rid of all the bloatware from Verizon using titanium. Would that have something to do with it? Otherwise, I don't know what's going on. Thank you, and I apologize if this was addressed in any other thread.
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No its not supposed to take that long. So you're trying to take the ota from me7 you're saying right? You may have to Odin if that doesn't work for you. Sometimes unfreezing and removing mods just doesn't do it
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Mistertac said:
No its not supposed to take that long. So you're trying to take the ota from me7 you're saying right? You may have to Odin if that doesn't work for you. Sometimes unfreezing and removing mods just doesn't do it
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Sorry. Can you link me to where I can find how to do that
Thanks again
TheDarkAbed said:
Sorry. Can you link me to where I can find how to do that
Thanks again
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Several youtube videos on Odin process
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
Several youtube videos on Odin process
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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I went on youtube, but all of them say that they are for I9505. I'm not sure where I'm supposed to look, but my model number says SCH-I545. Does that mean I'm unable to use the process?
Sorry again for asking so many questions.
TheDarkAbed said:
I went on youtube, but all of them say that they are for I9505. I'm not sure where I'm supposed to look, but my model number says SCH-I545. Does that mean I'm unable to use the process?
Sorry again for asking so many questions.
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Process is similar. ..you just need to have correct image file.
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
TheDarkAbed said:
I went on youtube, but all of them say that they are for I9505. I'm not sure where I'm supposed to look, but my model number says SCH-I545. Does that mean I'm unable to use the process?
Sorry again for asking so many questions.
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Same process, but get the image for your i545 from the Android Development forum for this phone.
is there any benefit to keeping ME7 or just update to most recent update? thanks for the help.

Question on downgrade

I originally updated from MI1 to MJ7, which was a stupid move, but just wondering if there is anyway to downgrade back in order to have full root and benefits?
I want to restore my phone and if I can go back, that would be great, because I don't want to go forward because if there is a new upadte it would make it worse instead of better, in terms of rooting.
Please advise
elite-fusion said:
I originally updated from MI1 to MJ7, which was a stupid move, but just wondering if there is anyway to downgrade back in order to have full root and benefits?
I want to restore my phone and if I can go back, that would be great, because I don't want to go forward because if there is a new upadte it would make it worse instead of better, in terms of rooting.
Please advise
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you can root mj7 mine is
i heard that vroot isnt a good way to go...no?
Can I install custom roms on MJ7?
what would be the best way to restore this? with a file, or just go through the settings and do a factory reset?
elite-fusion said:
i heard that vroot isnt a good way to go...no?
Can I install custom roms on MJ7?
what would be the best way to restore this? with a file, or just go through the settings and do a factory reset?
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Just keep taking OTAs up to MK2 (The latest). From there you can root and install safestrap (and a safestrap compatible rom). You cannot flash AOSP roms; the bootloader is locked down post MDK. This thread is pretty much all you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
so can mk2 be rooted?
elite-fusion said:
so can mk2 be rooted?
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You should probably read the stickied thread at the top of the forum.
Its called What you need to know before, during and after modifying your verizon S4
Its probably relevant to your interests no?
This is the second time someone has linked you to it. I promise you if you READ THE WHOLE THING before asking anymore questions, you wont have questions to ask.
elite-fusion said:
so can mk2 be rooted?
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Yes. Search for "Saferoot". I can't stress enough....... RESEARCH FIRST. It will save you a lot of headaches.
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alright, one last question because it is NOT listed in that thread,
Where can i download the mk2 to load it manually because i am not a verizon customer but have a verizon s4 which i use with tmobile so it does not allow me to do OTA because it keeps telling me that Service is temporarily unavailable.
Please advise
elite-fusion said:
alright, one last question because it is NOT listed in that thread,
Where can i download the mk2 to load it manually because i am not a verizon customer but have a verizon s4 which i use with tmobile so it does not allow me to do OTA because it keeps telling me that Service is temporarily unavailable.
Please advise
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As linked to from the provided thead Customizing your Verizon Galaxy S4 - what's possible and what's not
Has links to the updates that it is possible to flash, see the recover by reflashing stock section.
Seriously, its a pretty expensive phone and you can totally ruin it. Not a bad idea to read through that info people keep trying to give you.

[Q]Want to go back to completely stock TW, don't know how though...

Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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My recommendation would be to search the Samsung website for an MK2 Odin.tar stock firmware image for your s4. If you can't find it there then I recommend looking on XDA for a no data wipe MK2 image. Once the OTA hits for 4.4.2 touchwiz KitKat I recommend you wait for the devs to find a root exploit for it. Or if you don't mind spending a few bucks you could buy super su pro and enable root survival mode and it keeps root over an ota. But I'll see if I can link you to a non data wipe stock MK2 image.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Here are the stock MK2 images just in case. There are full data wipes and no data wipes available. Hope I was able to help!
damnyouwaffles said:
Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
k1mu said:
Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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k1mu, we will be repeating this countless times when the OTA happens

[Q] I'm on stock mk2 i want to update to newest + root

Hello guys, I am on stock mk2, 4.3 with root, and I just downloaded safetrap 3.71 haven't installed it. Im familiar with flashing via twrp, however Im not sure which method to use. There are alot of different methods from downgrading to upgrading. What is my best option? Will i need to update modem+kernel?
i can only recommend visiting my thread and downloading 1 file upgrade. either the Complete Package which has all the apps modems modules ect you'll need or just the NC2 or NC5 1 file upgrade you flash in Odin 3.10 for the safest and easiest upgrade possible since your already on 4.3 rooted with safestrap then you don't really need to worry about downgrading as you shouldnt have to downgrade. Just avoid OTA/Full System Odin Flashes and well anything with bootloaders in them... at least thats what I'd do if I was you
jareddlc said:
Hello guys, I am on stock mk2, 4.3 with root, and I just downloaded safetrap 3.71 haven't installed it. Im familiar with flashing via twrp, however Im not sure which method to use. There are alot of different methods from downgrading to upgrading. What is my best option? Will i need to update modem+kernel?
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My method is easier to understand.
techguy2002 said:
My method is easier to understand.
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sure it is buddy what ever u think lol. how do u get easier than flashing 1 file and being done?? oi vay some are ignorant. and its not your method. grow up
You don't have to act like an asshole. There's no need for that. I've had plenty of people tell me the method I wrote up was easier to understand.
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gigilie said:
iJust avoid OTA/Full System Odin Flashes and well anything with bootloaders in them... at least thats what I'd do if I was you
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I was particularly looking into this method: 1545_MK2toNC5_KeepRoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2749660
why is it bad flashing this OTA? Also just from reading posts, if I flash full nc5+root i had to flash modem + patches? or am I incorrect? This phone is going to be for someone else, So i want to stick with stock + root as much as possible. One key feature it must have is wifi tethering.
Also, what method are you suggestion I use in your post. method1 or method2?
jareddlc said:
I was particularly looking into this method: 1545_MK2toNC5_KeepRoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2749660
why is it bad flashing this OTA? Also just from reading posts, if I flash full nc5+root i had to flash modem + patches? or am I incorrect? This phone is going to be for someone else, So i want to stick with stock + root as much as possible. One key feature it must have is wifi tethering.
Also, what method are you suggestion I use in your post. method1 or method2?
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That's the way I did it (munoz_ri's I545_MK2toNC4_KeepRoot), starting with clean MK2. One small flash and a reboot and it's done.
If you're starting at MK2, that's the fastest way to go.
If you're starting at NC5, use Surge1223's or Gigilie's upgrade. techguy2002's directions are easier to follow than Gigilie's IMHO.
Here's some very well written instructions for gigilies method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769480
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Shouldn't we ask if the op wants to keep an mk2 bootloader or wants stock nc5 at this point? Different files produce different outcomes.
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rslu2 said:
Shouldn't we ask if the op wants to keep an mk2 bootloader or wants stock nc5 at this point? Different files produce different outcomes.
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I didnt know. I just finished flashing the ota and seems to work fine, apart from getting auth issues from hotspot. But this phone currently doesnt have service(activated) so i cannot test the hotspot. But things seem to work well. Whhy would i need a different bootloader, and how can i tell which version I am on?
jareddlc said:
I didnt know. I just finished flashing the ota and seems to work fine, apart from getting auth issues from hotspot. But this phone currently doesnt have service(activated) so i cannot test the hotspot. But things seem to work well. Whhy would i need a different bootloader, and how can i tell which version I am on?
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Get this free app, it will tell you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Mk2, NC2, and NC5 are all valid bootloader as well as ROM bases and it might matter which combo you have if you run into bugs down the road.
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joshuabg said:
Get this free app, it will tell you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
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+1
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jareddlc said:
I didnt know. I just finished flashing the ota and seems to work fine, apart from getting auth issues from hotspot. But this phone currently doesnt have service(activated) so i cannot test the hotspot. But things seem to work well. Whhy would i need a different bootloader, and how can i tell which version I am on?
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I just linked to @Surge1223 's TetherEnable zip in my OP and added flashing instructions.

[Q] Updating S4 on 4.3 rooted to 5.01 using FlashFire won't take?

I've done some searching (for several hours actually) and think I'm just more confused than when I started - so please forgive me for asking if I just haven't found the "right" answer thread somewhere among the thousands of posts here...
I am trying to update my wife's rooted S4 (Verizon) on 4.3 (MK2) to Lollipop 5.01 w/root. To do this, I was following the instructions near the bottom of this page that start with "Install Lollipop on Verizon Galaxy S4 & Keep Root"
http://www.droidviews.com/install-lollipop-on-verizon-galaxy-s4-and-keep-root
I followed everything as directed, and upon running FlashFire, it blacks out for about a minute, and when it reboots, reboots into standard recovery mode and just sits there. My only choice is to reboot.
I've tried it several times and get the same results. I end up right back where I started. Which makes me think these instructions may be lacking or my setup is not what's expected?
Any pointers appreciated - or completely different instructions if the ones I followed aren't correct or if there is just a better way. Thanks for your valuable time and info in advance!
You are on the older version so, the Flashfire may not like the fact your on the older bootloader! If your gonna use a ROM find one that uses the MK2 bootloader, or first update to a KitKat (4.4.3) NK1 bootloader ROM, then update the Flashfire
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KaosMaster said:
You are on the older version so, the Flashfire may not like the fact your on the older bootloader! If your gonna use a ROM find one that uses the MK2 bootloader, or first update to a KitKat (4.4.3) NK1 bootloader ROM, then update the Flashfire
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Thanks for your reply.
The instructions linked to a ROM for non-MDK bootloaders - which is the one I chose being on MK2. But you're saying I need to start at 4.4.3 at least?
What's the best way to get there without losing root? Or do I update and re-root?
I tried doing and OTA update on this setup and it errors out. I'm assuming I'd have to unroot to get the OTA first? But if I do that, will I get the 4.4.3, or will it try to go right to the latest Lollipop build?
Again - thanks in advance!
Let me do some research, will get right back to you...I believe you need the NK1 or NK4 bootloader.
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Ok, I know what you need to do! It won't be fast, but will be the best way!!
First, I need to know if this download link works, and if you can get the image file! I am going to make sure you have a Verizon SCH-I545 correct??
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4RU_ZH5QUAST1M5WkRNcy1Xek0/view?usp=docslist_api
Then if this works, I can help you the rest of the way! It's gonna take a few hours to complete this process, and I can walk you thru it on hangouts if you like!
Please let me know!
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