Im taking a poll on the average rezound user cpu frequency for development
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lol... I would always underclock to the 1200Mhz range to save battery, or use the stock 1512 with a more conservative governor like Intellidemand, rarely ever overclocked and when I did it was just to test something or run a quick benchmark, never really saw any real gain to it at all, always thought it was better to lower the bottom end as low as you could get it to 96-192Mhz so that even if something kept it awake, it would barely be running.
Whenever I'm running "Intensive items" I sometimes overclock. Most of the time I try to underclock to save battery as ace said. Although Doesn't really save that much battery. I stay at stock 1.5GHz a lot though...
pball52998 said:
Whenever I'm running "Intensive items" I sometimes overclock. Most of the time I try to underclock to save battery as ace said. Although Doesn't really save that much battery. I stay at stock 1.5GHz a lot though...
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True... Underclocking the top end doesn't do much, although if you can lower the bottom end, and undervolt some, it can make a big difference when sleeping.
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acejavelin said:
True... Underclocking the top end doesn't do much, although if you can lower the bottom end, and undervolt some, it can make a big difference when sleeping.
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O you're saying when sleeping. Holy crap YES!! It makes a HUGE difference. I run sense 5 a lot (running that right now) and the battery life on "sleep" is already great, but when I underclock like I did the other day, I forgot to plug my phone in that night, it was at 5% I woke up and it was at 4% 8 hours later only 1% lost. Of course thats on Snuzzo's funky kernel and underclocked, but DANG!!! NEVER seen my battery life that good. The 4% also lasted another 5 hours without use! Don't know how but it did. :laugh::good:
Depends what I'm doing, usually under clocked to save battery throughout the day. I used to record YouTube videos on my rez, I would over clock for recording and benchmarks, finding the perfect i/o scheduler, governor and clock speed to run stable was fun.
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1728. Fastest mine goes without being unstable.
bunchies said:
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1728 all the time.
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I use SetCPU to help battery life but someone told me it's not needed on the SGS2 as it already scales CPU for demand. True?
leedavis said:
I use SetCPU to help battery life but someone told me it's not needed on the SGS2 as it already scales CPU for demand. True?
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Interesting point you raise actually.
I've just installed Setcpu and used the on demand governor. I left the values as default (200mhz for minimum and 1.2 ghz for maximum) - with no overclock.
I've immediately noticed swiping through the screens is a bit smoother and the biggest improvement is the gallery. All my photos appear much smoother. Before the gallery app was a bit lagy.
I haven't set any profiles yet such as screen off.
Every Android phone I've owned scaled the cpu, I think they all do. I've found that with setCPU my battery gets drained much faster en no real benefit in smoothness.
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Every Android phone I've owned scaled the cpu, I think they all do. I've found that with setCPU my battery gets drained much faster en no real benefit in smoothness.
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Have you tried this yet though on the Galaxy S2?
There is definitely less lag than before - as stated, specifically in the gallery app. Just generally swiping feels more responsive as well. Battery is still pretty awesome, especially when using Lightening Rom 1.1 and the Android battery calibration app.
Hmm. I'll try SetCPU on the SGS2 and post back the findings (Performance+Battery).
I don't know how can it get any more smoother, I mean its already SO smooth!
there are many points to use setcpu on gs2:
-for some reason I dunno, gs2 can't manage it's 1.2ghz without gettin too warm. downclock and get rid of the burn effect.
-gs2 sports a good management of gpu (it does most of the work and setcpu doesnt down\overclock that). downclockin doesnt affect UI or video o browsing experience at all. can even downclock at 500 max speed without any sides.
-the only side u ll see it's benchmark (quadrant downgrading to 2000) but I hope u won't pay attention to such an unseful thing. benchmark doenst mean nothing, daily usage it's the only point to look at.
my settings: conservative, 200min 800max.
battery draining doesnt belong to setcpu this time, look to other settings.
alexleon said:
there are many points to use setcpu on gs2:
-for some reason I dunno, gs2 can't manage it's 1.2ghz without gettin too warm. downclock and get rid of the burn effect.
-gs2 sports a good management of gpu (it does most of the work and setcpu doesnt down\overclock that). downclockin doesnt affect UI or video o browsing experience at all. can even downclock at 500 max speed without any sides.
-the only side u ll see it's benchmark (quadrant downgrading to 2000) but I hope u won't pay attention to such an unseful thing. benchmark doenst mean nothing, daily usage it's the only point to look at.
my settings: conservative, 200min 800max.
battery draining doesnt belong to setcpu this time, look to other settings.
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IT IS TRUE. I agree with every single line you wrote, it is just my expericence.
I have too setcpu conservative and undercloked 800 Mhz.
There no slow down or lag at all... But I am wondering if it gives a real boost to battery life. I am not sure of this.
I'll keep you guys posted... But I think that an undevolted Kernel it is really a need as for the solution of the damn dual core ginger bug that is sucking 20% of my battery every day
Well,from my experience with my Desire and Desire HD(won't even bother with the Hero,I had no real knowledge then),governors can make a huge difference.I for one like smartass or interactive governors(mostly the same).I wouldn't suggest conservative,interactive does the job much better.Tasks get done in less time and the CPU throttles down more quickly.Other than that,you can underclock or overclock all you like,it never made any big difference in battery life for me(Unless Sammy's CPUs are different in that aspect-Snapdragons are really "overclock-friendly").That's personal preference after all!
Anyway,the best solution IMO would be a vdd_levels interface.For those who don't know what it is,it is a mod made by -snq(Meet him at the Desire forums-That guy's a true LEGEND!He can patch/modify anything!),which practically allows you to change the voltage levels of the CPU on the fly rather than having to stick with the values hardcoded into the kernel.Using this and a simple script in GScript to change values that won't survive reboot or in init.d to be applied on boot,you can find the optimal voltages for your CPU(Don't forget,every CPU is unique and different),thus reducing heat and maximizing battery life.
If a dev brings that to the SGS2 it will be a big step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
I use SetCPU without issue, but only to run profiles (i limit the device to 500mhz when the screen is off). The rest of the time it scales itself up to 1.4GHz without fuss and using stock voltage. Battery life is fine, best ive had for an android device.
Wow, I've taken SetCPU off but left JuiceDefender on and my battery life is fantastic. At 70% after slightly heavier than normal use (used for listening to music for a couple of hours this morning) and been off charge for 8.5 hours.
SetCPU seems counterproductive on SGS2
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I use SetCPU to help battery life but someone told me it's not needed on the SGS2 as it already scales CPU for demand. True?
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I did set ondemand which is a little more reactive and slightly smoother.
Though System Tuner is less cpu-consuming and much more useful on the SGS2. No need for all those complicated settings from setCPU. Only changing governor and changing frequencies on standby are useful.
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Wow, I've taken SetCPU off but left JuiceDefender on and my battery life is fantastic. At 70% after slightly heavier than normal use (used for listening to music for a couple of hours this morning) and been off charge for 8.5 hours.
SetCPU seems counterproductive on SGS2
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Juice Defender uses as much battery as it saves this is fact, i have SepCPU set to 200 Min - 800 Max - On demand and have Juice Defender Ultimate and i thought it was great but it was recommended to me that i could save more battery by not using this, initially i was skeptical but tried it and i was astonished at the results, my battery life improved by 9 hours (i carried out a test with JD and without)
Anyone who says SetCPU uses up loads of battery is talking nonsense,it actually saves battery if configured correctly.
I am using Check Rom with set CPU I have it 1.2ghz max and 200. Using conservative governer. I been off charge for 15hrs, however I am using light usage I am on 72% screen on has been 5h 25m at time of writing. Not yet calibrated the battery.
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Juice Defender uses as much battery as it saves this is fact, i have SepCPU set to 200 Min - 800 Max - On demand and have Juice Defender Ultimate and i thought it was great but it was recommended to me that i could save more battery by not using this, initially i was skeptical but tried it and i was astonished at the results, my battery life improved by 9 hours (i carried out a test with JD and without)
Anyone who says SetCPU uses up loads of battery is talking nonsense,it actually saves battery if configured correctly.
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What are the settings are you using for the setcpu program in your S2?? Did you remove the Juice defender application?
I'm running Bullet 1.420 Kernal, what's a good setting for setcpu for profiles and such? I've been a vibrant rooter for a long time and never looked into it, thanks!
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Are you aiming for battery life or performance? If battery life is your goal, try what's in my signature. If you're going for performance, the simplest approach is to set your screen-on profile to 1420 (or performance governor) and nothing else, and your screen off profile to 800.
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Are you aiming for battery life or performance? If battery life is your goal, try what's in my signature. If you're going for performance, the simplest approach is to set your screen-on profile to 1420 (or performance governor) and nothing else, and your screen off profile to 800.
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Oh okay, thanks, but what will happen if I put 1420 high and 100 min? Cause I want my Kernal to be free and not suppressed at the standard the phone puts, will that "free" it and will it kill battery faster? I hope you get what I mean, lol
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Shouldn't be a problem setting 1420/100. The biggest problem I've found with overclocking is the "Sleep of Death", which occurs when you don't have the proper settings for screen-off mode. At 1200 OC, it's recommended to set your minimum frequency to 400 to avoid Sleep of Death. I believe at 1420, 800 is a safe bet to avoid Sleep of Death.
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Shouldn't be a problem setting 1420/100. The biggest problem I've found with overclocking is the "Sleep of Death", which occurs when you don't have the proper settings for screen-off mode. At 1200 OC, it's recommended to set your minimum frequency to 400 to avoid Sleep of Death. I believe at 1420, 800 is a safe bet to avoid Sleep of Death.
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Oh okay, and Overclocking OBVIOUSLY kills battery right? Ans would 1420 high, 800 min kill much battery?
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All depends on how you use your phone. When your phone is on and you're gaming which will ramp your speed up to the maximum, then yeah. You're gonna burn more battery. I'm more battery conscious myself, and find my UI and experience smooth as silk at 1.2 with Bali-X while still getting massive battery savings with the phone spending most of it's time under 800mhz when I'm doing less intensive tasks like SMS.
At this point, your best bet is to simply test it out. Your mileage will vary depending on the ROM and kernel version you use.
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All depends on how you use your phone. When your phone is on and you're gaming which will ramp your speed up to the maximum, then yeah. You're gonna burn more battery. I'm more battery conscious myself, and find my UI and experience smooth as silk at 1.2 with Bali-X while still getting massive battery savings with the phone spending most of it's time under 800mhz when I'm doing less intensive tasks like SMS.
At this point, your best bet is to simply test it out. Your mileage will vary depending on the ROM and kernel version you use.
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Oh okay, that'll be it then I guess, I appreciate you answering all my questions when we both probably know I could've looked them up, ill be sure to thank you when I'm on a computer!
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I was curious... does SetCpu work for this phone like Milestone Overclock? What's the difference, aside from SetCPU having more options?
They are both free (well SetCPU only free for XDA), but everyone uses milestone OC here and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that.
syrenz said:
I was curious... does SetCpu work for this phone like Milestone Overclock? What's the difference, aside from SetCPU having more options?
They are both free (well SetCPU only free for XDA), but everyone uses milestone OC here and I'm wondering if there's a reason for that.
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There is difference between two applications. Milestone overclock actually overclocks the processor while setcpu doesn't. Setcpu just changes clock frequency of CPU ranging from minimum to maximum. It allows you to make user profiles depending on which frequency of processor will be controlled. It actually helps battery last battery longer. BTW setcpu is paid application
SetCPU is used for setting CPU parameters. Like the range of mhz your CPU works at. Also setting profiles (CPU mhz when the phone is charging, reach temperature, battery lower than... etc.). But it cannot be used for overcharging, that's why we use Milestone overclock...
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jackfrost3821 said:
There is difference between two applications. Milestone overclock actually overclocks the processor while setcpu doesn't. Setcpu just changes clock frequency of CPU ranging from minimum to maximum. It allows you to make user profiles depending on which frequency of processor will be controlled. It actually helps battery last battery longer. BTW setcpu is paid application
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Setcpu is free for XDA members bud, find it here
how should i adjust my advanced settings? im overclocked at 850mhz
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Setcpu is free for XDA members bud, find it here
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Thank you I wasn't knowing it is free for xda members!
I personally think Setcpu creates glitches in phone routine. Say when I play music and turn off the display, after I turn it on it pauses music a bit. I uninstalled it, problem seems to be no more. Still I can't confirm if the bug was created because of setcpu plus the battery life is not increased exponentially with setcpu.
Thanks for the answers
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I personally think Setcpu creates glitches in phone routine. Say when I play music and turn off the display, after I turn it on it pauses music a bit. I uninstalled it, problem seems to be no more. Still I can't confirm if the bug was created because of setcpu plus the battery life is not increased exponentially with setcpu.
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I think I agree, lol. Android has it's own built in "Setcpu" it's supposed to do a good job on it's own. I have been using it lately and not really sure it is much of an advantage. I'm gonna go a few days without I think and see. Same with battery calibration, I use 3 backup batteries so if it works it really can't work properly when switching batteries but they all always seem calibrated the same whether I use it or not.
SetCPU works with msoc but it is more of a parameter setting app. Imagine if you were oc to 1200 all the time. That would be foolish bc your processor would burn up that is to say if you battery stayed charged long enough to do it. Im set at 1100/74 but I don't need it like that all the time. When my screen is off, why do I need it that high. I do bc I listen to alot of online media, MLB, Jango, Pandora, and if the screen is on it makes temp go up. I do, you may not need it that high. SetCPU allows me to set that parameter to adjust the CPU down and underclock it if I need to. Also if my battery is too hot, I don't need it to be fast as lightning compounding heat, so I set it for a specific temp and it underclocks when I hit it. Here is a screen shots to show my settings.
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I think I agree, lol. Android has it's own built in "Setcpu" it's supposed to do a good job on it's own. I have been using it lately and not really sure it is much of an advantage. I'm gonna go a few days without I think and see. Same with battery calibration, I use 3 backup batteries so if it works it really can't work properly when switching batteries but they all always seem calibrated the same whether I use it or not.
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Exactly that is what I've tried, uninstalled SetCPU to see the battery performance. It was really unnoticeable the battery drain with and without Setcpu. I use Autokill Memory Optimizer which seems to be providing good results as well as performance enhancement.
Nah that pause has nothing to do with setcpu. I get that all the time.
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exist2resist said:
Nah that pause has nothing to do with setcpu. I get that all the time.
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Yes it has to do with SetCPU if your minimum frequency is less. In screen lock profile select min frequency to 550Mhz instead of 250Mhz. Music won't pause while waking up your device. It works!
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Yes it has to do with SetCPU if your minimum frequency is less. In screen lock profile select min frequency to 550Mhz instead of 250Mhz. Music won't pause while waking up your device. It works!
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I guess you are correct.
But currently I removed the SetCPU. And I see much better performance now. I was min at 250MHz. Even the quadrant score is much better now.
Thanks for your insight
I remove setcpu and do a comparison too. I'm using CM 7.1.0 of fjfalcon and it lasts 1.5-2 days with minimal usage on setcpu. Now let's see if it's barely unnoticable.
but I think set cpu to 250mhz during the night when you don't use your phone may prolong battery life.
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SetCPU works with msoc but it is more of a parameter setting app. Imagine if you were oc to 1200 all the time. That would be foolish bc your processor would burn up that is to say if you battery stayed charged long enough to do it. Im set at 1100/74 but I don't need it like that all the time. When my screen is off, why do I need it that high. I do bc I listen to alot of online media, MLB, Jango, Pandora, and if the screen is on it makes temp go up. I do, you may not need it that high. SetCPU allows me to set that parameter to adjust the CPU down and underclock it if I need to. Also if my battery is too hot, I don't need it to be fast as lightning compounding heat, so I set it for a specific temp and it underclocks when I hit it. Here is a screen shots to show my settings.
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Dude! with those settings what is your battery life like?
my minimum is at 125mhz and max at 250mhz (when screen off) and I lose 30% over night! and it barely lasts 8hours D:
what ROM are you on?
Do you guys know how the smartass governor works?
Ive been running the "cm7-1.4highpro-test-rev3" kernel and it runs great. I've been bumping up my undervolting slowly, and im at -475 at 216 mhz, which (in theory) should be the undervolt clock speed that will save me most battery becasue i have phone set to go between 216 mhz and 312 mhz when screens off. Ive got both 216 and 312 mhz undervolted extremely heavily and i haven't seen ANY issues. The rest of clock speeds are at -100 or so, and if i push much further than that the phone locks up and does weird stuff. This would lead me to believe that the undervolting IS indeed working. But can the processor really run at -475 @216mhz and [email protected] without any side affects?? I haven't once had it get stuck in sleep mode with screen off or ANYTHING, so im a bit unsure if it is actually undervolting or not.. Myrt undervolt shows that my phone is undervolted to the specific settings i set within SetCpu. I also havent seen much, if any, difference with battery life. With 10 hours of idle time, straight idle screen off whole time, wifi, gps, mobile data, 4g, bluetooth, all that stuff off and after 10 hours my battery is down to 85%.
I limited uv clocks, so there is a low limit. One day ill add more low end clocks but it won't matter because the photon uses a separate clock for suspend. I knew people would try to uv to 500 with it set on boot and screw there phone up. So this way I didn't have thousands of user error related uv issues. Uv does works but its more for high end than low end. Low end uv causes sleep of death.
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Ive been running the "cm7-1.4highpro-test-rev3" kernel and it runs great. I've been bumping up my undervolting slowly, and im at -475 at 216 mhz, which (in theory) should be the undervolt clock speed that will save me most battery becasue i have phone set to go between 216 mhz and 312 mhz when screens off. Ive got both 216 and 312 mhz undervolted extremely heavily and i haven't seen ANY issues. The rest of clock speeds are at -100 or so, and if i push much further than that the phone locks up and does weird stuff. This would lead me to believe that the undervolting IS indeed working. But can the processor really run at -475 @216mhz and [email protected] without any side affects?? I haven't once had it get stuck in sleep mode with screen off or ANYTHING, so im a bit unsure if it is actually undervolting or not.. Myrt undervolt shows that my phone is undervolted to the specific settings i set within SetCpu. I also havent seen much, if any, difference with battery life. With 10 hours of idle time, straight idle screen off whole time, wifi, gps, mobile data, 4g, bluetooth, all that stuff off and after 10 hours my battery is down to 85%.
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haha ok I understand, just thought I was going crazy there for a bit, or had the most amazing tegra 2 known to man. is there a way to UV the suspend mode then or no? And is my battery life at idle about average or low considering the UV. do you have any kernels for CM7 that aren't limited for UV? Thanks for reply, and all your hard work on the photon!!
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Changing suspend voltage can only be done in source. I havnt played with it yet because i need to test it on a stable kernel that way i know any issues would come from it. As far as extra uv steps its planned after wifi fix. I wont add 500 new steps probably 2 steps at a time(-25 steps). Im also planning on changing my clock table(multiples of 216 only). I might make a half step 1.0 kernel underclocked to 108~192. It will be mem underclocked and gpu/avp underclocked. With lower voltage tables on everything. Default scheduling will be powersave. Which you can check out with cpu master right now. That kernel will also have a tweaked 2 core start/stop.
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haha ok I understand, just thought I was going crazy there for a bit, or had the most amazing tegra 2 known to man. is there a way to UV the suspend mode then or no? And is my battery life at idle about average or low considering the UV. do you have any kernels for CM7 that aren't limited for UV? Thanks for reply, and all your hard work on the photon!!
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"That kernel will also have a tweaked 2 core start/stop. "
Holy ****!
That would be the best thing
All new ones this week have tweaked 2nd core
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"That kernel will also have a tweaked 2 core start/stop. "
Holy ****!
That would be the best thing
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do underclocking/overclocking influence battery backup time?
Define battery backup time. Do you mean how long the battery last?
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Define battery backup time. Do you mean how long the battery last?
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If you mean battery life, under clocking will get you better battery life but less performance. Over clocking will get you less better life and better performance.
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do underclocking/overclocking influence battery backup time?
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Underclocking gains is entirely dependant on how you use the phone. If your phone spends most of its time just sitting around you wont gain anything from underclocking. On the otherhand, if you play a lot of games (CPU intensive) then underclocking will get you a little more game time. For things like texting, checking Facebook, etc, underclocking wont help much as your cpu doesn't spend much time maxed out anyways. On top of that, underclocking means it will take your cpu longer to complete tasks and therefore your cpu will spend more time at higher freqs to accomplish things it could've done faster at a higher clock speed.
Same goes for overclocking, you will only really see a difference if you play a lot of games or do cpu intensive tasks. Another area you might see higher battery consumption is by overclocking the MINIMUM frequency. This will affect battery even while going the little things. How much the effect depends on how high you go.
Neither oc or uc affect your phones stand by time.
Thank you dear for your detailed explanation
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What about undervolting? Seems like a much more delicate operation of all things.
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What about undervolting? Seems like a much more delicate operation of all things.
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I haven't ever really experienced much battery life difference when undervolting. Then again I don't undervolt seriously, just lightly. There may be more of an impact when u do it hardcore.
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I underclock 200-800 on demand gov and under volt a decent amt each phone is different how far u can under volt without sod but never set u voltage to set on boot or u mite get stuck but I notice a difference if I forget to apply voltage after a reboot I lose battery much quicker maybe I gain two more hours on my battery but I'm a heavy user with 5 plus hours screen time everyday
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