[DISCUSSION] So you can go swimming with TS? - Ornate TrueSmart

Hi guys...
Just for fun and to talk about TS off-topic I'm creating this thread...
Great video from @Lokifish Marz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53553746
Apparently...we could actually swim with it, we'll probably be electrified but that's not bad...or is it?
Anybody tried to swim with TS?
Want to sell parts now?
KS campaign video clearly said we could do that, right?
Omate's TrueSmart 2.0 : Android 4.2 on 1.54'' TFT…: http://youtu.be/oTUjWc9BJDg
Oooo Omate... You just gotta love them..
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Don't even try it!!
Take it as a good advice...

LLPen took his kayaking. He said it survived, so I tried it with mine on a glassy smooth lagoon off San Francisco Bay. Mine survived, too. Wow !
I bet mine has Sapphire Crystal too (because it hasn't scratched yet) !
Mine didn't get wet hardly any while kayaking and I don't wear it while mixing concrete, so my testing is limited. Really, don't get it wet !
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trent999 said:
LLPen took his kayaking. He said it survived, so I tried it with mine on a glassy smooth lagoon off San Francisco Bay. Mine survived, too. Wow !
I bet mine has Sapphire Crystal too (because it hasn't scratched yet) !
Mine didn't get wet hardly any while kayaking and I don't wear it while mixing concrete, so my testing is limited. Really, don't get it wet !
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All of them are made with the Sapphire coating. Made has suffered from one tiny scratch that only could be found under a bright fluorescent light. Not bad considering I wear the watch while exercising in gym sometimes making a light knock against the metal on the weight machines(Made a mark on the black paint).

IP67
This IP67 part of lies makes me most angry.
I'm kayaking a lot, and swim at swimming pool few times a week, and I had sooo many plans for TS+water (including app to count swim distance).
And this IP67 sold watch for me...

Yes, that "Sapphire" coating is a big help, I agree. I am glad we have it. It is not, however what we were sold, which was a sapphire crystal like the expensive watches use and which is really quite tough indeed (and quite more expensive, I am sure). We got a treated glass surface and given other assembly issues that have turned up I would not be too sure all the TrueSmarts shipped got an equally effective coating treatment.
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funky0308 said:
Hi guys...
Just for fun and to talk about TS off-topic I'm creating this thread...
Anybody tried to swim with TS?
Want to sell parts now?
KS campaign video clearly said we could do that, right?
Omate's TrueSmart 2.0 : Android 4.2 on 1.54'' TFT…: http://youtu.be/oTUjWc9BJDg
Oooo Omate... You just gotta love them..
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LOL Youtube rubs it in my face by showing me an advert of people on holiday swimming in the sea!

You all understand I'm joking, right?
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You all understand I'm joking, right?
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I'm not because I bought a second TS for my uncle when they "confirmed" you could go swimming with it.... #nothappy

Actually I was thinking of immersing my TS into a load of this stuff!
http://www.nanostate.co.uk/flash-flood-to-waterproof-smartphones-and-tablets-5ml-p-3.php
This actually might work if it got into the "pores" and places inside the TS...

Passing through here, legit concerns as it relates to water resistant features... So let's keep on topic, OK?

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Passing through here, legit concerns as it relates to water resistant features... So let's keep on topic, OK?
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I was actually being serious about getting the hydrophobic coating... We all know that the physical properties of the TS are useless soooo let's add some chemistry!

How abt dryzoo on indiegogo?
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ip67 is just 30min under water so going to swim with it is a bad idea...

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ip67 is just 30min under water so going to swim with it is a bad idea...
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Why would it be a bad idea???
Swim for 30 minutes.
Or even better when you swim the watch will be going in and out of water so it should be good.
This is why for me all this IP rating is nonsense.
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The TrueSmart watches are not at all waterproof. Many have been destroyed by casual splash damage like just getting wet while washing things in the kitchen sink. It's a shame, but don't get it wet.
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Hehe...this thread is awesome..
My intention was to mock Omate and their IP rating circus
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lol, just look at lokis immersion test where he sacrificed a TS!... And still Omate skirt round the issue... wonder if Loki got a refund for his factory sealed TS lol... All the waterproofing thing is doing is scaring people into not using their MicroSD Cards.... you're not going to loose any water protection because there isnt any to begin with...

inWatch offered to replace the Z if it gives me any issues from the test, Omate attacked my integrity upon seeing the video. So it's safe to assume a replacement is out of the question. Better QC and a couple of changes and the TS would probably hit 1ATM, a more serious evaluation of the design and they could have hit 3ATM.

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inWatch offered to replace the Z if it gives me any issues from the test, Omate attacked my integrity upon seeing the video. So it's safe to assume a replacement is out of the question. Better QC and a couple of changes and the TS would probably hit 1ATM, a more serious evaluation of the design and they could have hit 3ATM.
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Could I get a link?
I could do one video - water test -
My TS is somewhere on the shelf and I'm not using it (it's ridiculous to take it off evert time I'm washing my hands)..
I'm sure LLP would believe me
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[Q] How durable is the GS2?

Hey guys,a question about the SGS2 popped into my head earlier that I had forgotten to care about.
How durable is the GS2?I mean without silicon cases etc.It depends on the quality of the plastic used.
I know that the screen is pretty durable for sure(isn't it Gorilla Glass?),but what about the rest of the phone.From what I've heard,the original Galaxy S was pretty durable(heard stories of phones flying out of cars' windows etc),and my current Desire HD is really durable("really" is there because I have personal experience from the phone,not because it's more durable than the GS or something).
I intend to take care of my phone(Who doesn't take care of a 600 euro phone? ),but you cannot never be too sure!
Any feedback WITHOUT FLAMING OR HATING INCLUDED (taking precautions here as some people tend to defend the awesomeness of Sammy's phones with far too much zeal) is welcome.
Still eagerly waiting for the phone to arrive!
A lot of people think plastic automatically equates to bad build quality. Well, the Galaxy S II is proof that isn't the case -- it doesn't creek and there are numerous reports of people dropping theirs with no marks.
To sum up - does it feel as tough in the hand as my old HTC Leo? No. But does that mean it isn't? Not necessarily. I have had mine for a month with no build quality issues and long may it continue.
Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
Well,I am happy to see you two guys here(You ermmm...answered in a not so wanted manner in my other thread,remember?).Perhaps we started wrong,but never is too late now,is it?
I never said that plastic means build quality is bad.It's just more likely to mean so than aluminium is,because there are various qualities of plastic and no one can guarantee(is it spelled like that?I'm studying atm so my English is a bit out of the ordinary,too many mistakes,sorry) that a manufacturer uses high quality plastic.
However it doesn't need to scream quality.My father has a Panasonic DSLR which is mainly(if not completely) mad of plastic.It has fallen on soil,water,rocks(in a cave-holy sh*t that man! ) and other surfaces numerous time and there is only a tiny(Like the tip of a nail) piece broken from the lens' cover.Nothing serious considering it's been going through that stuff for about four years now!
What I wanna say is that the GS2 might prove far better than most of us believe.
Did you guys own a GS1?What are your experiences from it?I mean apart from the usual problems with the device,like gps.
Again,thanks for your replies guys!I hope we will be cooperating and understanding each other better in the future!
(I hope I don't sound like a politician,but we have to be polite,don't we? )
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Durable = lasting in spite of hard wear or frequent use
So time alone will tell one month most definitely will not .
jje
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This deserves its own reply...
Don't say one month won't tell anything.Give a phone to my sister.If it survives the month,it's most likely extremely lucky or extremely well made!
Like the original sgs id say its a lot more durable than it feels- Ive droped mine already, but didnt get a scratch
Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Hard to say, wait some weeks for more stories to develop
I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
Xero Xenith said:
I'd say since there aren't many (any?) people screaming "ONOES IT BROKE ALREADY", it's probably made pretty well.
If it had truly bad build quality there would surely be some people complaining about it by now!
Once I got mine, I thought it felt like a toy and got a case for it immediately, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be able to survive a drop. It just means my financial paranoia got the better of me
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Yeah,that last part is exactly how I feel!
Joking aside you are right.We haven't even heard of someone bricking their device!How strange is that?Do idiots not buy the SGS2?Or is the software THAT easy to recover from anything?
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Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
tready said:
Yes i droped mine within 10mins of opening the box lol it bounced but no marks chips cracks scratches nothing. On the other hand i droped my desire hd when i had it and that gained a dent in the top both droped in my living room so they both took the same tumble and hit the same floor.
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Well,in a similar scenario my DHD kinda damaged the floor more than the floor damaged it.
Well,comparing the two isn't really that much fair.See,the way I see it,the biggest advantage of the plastic used on with the Galaxy series is that the reduced weight of the phones makes the force with which they hit the ground,should they fall,much smaller.And,using common sense,this means less damage.
That is my opinion though!
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daivik said:
Hopefully I'm getting mine tomorrow but If you look at the situation in which you'll drop the GSII logically.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, btw )
If you drop it, it's lighter, meaning it has less momentum on it, meaning that there's less force acting on the phone when it goes "smashing" into the ground and is there's less force, it's more likely to survive.
OFC not sure how that situation will take place in real life though.
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Yeah,whatever you said.You beat me to it.Damn,I should start replying from my PC more!
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One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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It feels fragile, but like someone just said the amount we've paid for them does instill some paranoia. I had my first test yesterday. In a Case-Mate Tough Case, the phone fell out of my hand, dropped arrow straight vertically and landed on one top corner. It then flopped on its face. This was on a concrete floor. I know the case saved it, but regardless the shock it took was pretty severe. So it's not frail and I'm now a Case-Mate fan.
tolis626 said:
One more question guys...
How is Samsung with their warranties?Do they honour it as they should?And how do they treat people with rooted devices?
HTC is well known for the fact that they are quite good with their warranties so,coming from a long line of HTCs,I'd like to know about Samsung too.
Thanks!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
Plastic definitely has it's advantages. When you think of all the shattered iP4's, and the comments above about dented aluminum HTC's it might be a blessing. That and of course weight has me thinking maybe the Sensations hand feel might not be so great when it's out of your hands....and into gravity's
I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Are you buying sim-free? And I haven't heard any rants about warranty, so I'm assuming it's good.
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Yep,I'm always buying sim-free.I hope they are at least as good as HTC.If not...Well,I hope I don't fry my phone(I'm a heavy overclocker)!
pmt32577 said:
I dropped mine 12 days ago.
Took it out of my pocket whilst hurrying to get to a meeting I was late for, juggled it, managing to launch it to about 5ft in the air before it landed totally flat, face down on concrete with some small stones scattered across it.
That shattered the glass and broke the LCD screen. NO damage or marks anywhere else. It has been in for repair (£90 quoted) with the official Samsung service centre in Luton since Saturday 21st. Samsung are taking their time sending the replacement.
Just a little bit annoying!
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Aha...Then Gorilla Glass isn't made to endure severe abuse!
Although I think 90 pounds for the screen is a little too much...

S3 Waterproof ?

Can anyone confirm the rumours of the S3 being waterproof ... as i am not brave enough to drop mine into water just yet ... lol
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...set-to-be-waterproof-1070899?src=rss&attr=all
look at the date of the article.. 14th march .
that was when all the BS was flying about saying it has 100GB Ram. a 10 inch touch screen and a 20mp camera.. if you choose to belive made up rubbish, then its true...
if you want your phone to last.. dont try it
Dude plz theres no such thing as a water proof smart phone
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http://www.liquipel.com/
I saw a tv show that tested the above mentioned product on a smartphone and works well ...
The stories say that samsung have also used this technology ...
Im not saying its true ... but it can be done ...
fahaddroid3 said:
Dude plz theres no such thing as a water proof smart phone
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A company is releasing a waterproof phone this year, cant remember who it is, I thought it was LG.
Yeah the company is called Liquipel and they sell this spray that coats all the components with this thin coating of whatever it is, but still don't know if S3 has it, but since Samsung isn't shouting about it I'm guessing not.
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Dude plz theres no such thing as a water proof smart phone
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Of course there is. Xperia active to name one.
This liquipel technology might not work that well.
Leo Laporte of the twit network (www.twit.tv) threw an iphone that was given this liquipel coating into a glass of water and it stopped working.
The s3 might be ok with a splash of water or even a short dip into it, but only if you are lucky. I'm sure its not waterproof and you would likely loose your warranty if it got wet and you wanted a repair.
kobz1973 said:
http://www.liquipel.com/
I saw a tv show that tested the above mentioned product on a smartphone and works well ...
The stories say that samsung have also used this technology ...
Im not saying its true ... but it can be done ...
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That stuff is junk, check out this vid of Leo Laporte "testing" this on his iPhone4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGzxedgfiac
From 27:10 to 32:10 is the best part but spoiler, the phone is toast by the end of the show =)
No S3's gonna be even worse because iPhone has no battery cover you could seal the whole phone, but obviously you have to open the S3.
The phone is not waterproof at all!
I dropped 2 drops of water on it and my screen became green and black because the water ran on it through the hardware button! I had my phone in a bowl of rice for the past 2 days and its back as new again but this is unacceptable really...
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U really think samsung would nt announce it to the world if the s3 was waterproof?
S3 waterproof that's a good one.
It can't stand a drop nevermind a drip.
Well, we do have this though lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM90JBDnjrQ
I doubt its real, he most likely swapped the thing before water dipping
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Dude plz theres no such thing as a water proof smart phone
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There actually is. But it isn't a gs3. It Panasonic. They have a demo video using it in a tub of water. Crazy stuff.
All I do for waterproofing is carry a plastic food bag in my wallet and screen still works through bag so can use in rain, and I thought one of the Motorola Razr models has some kind of waterproofing film on.
I actually have a buddy with the Casio Commander. Its hardened / waterproof Android phone and I can testify that he will drop that sucker in a 5 gallon bucket and you can hear it playing music through the sidewall. Phone is always fine when he pulls it out. It doesn't even have a water damage indicator on it. Too bad its also a piece of crap else it might be pretty damn cool.
Waterproof phones
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Well, we do have this though lol:
youtube.com/watch?v=HM90JBDnjrQ
I doubt its real, he most likely swapped the thing before water dipping
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That video was clearly a fake (or at the least so poorly done that you can't actually ever see the phone near any water), as are most of them. But this one looks pretty genuine:
youtube.com/watch?v=If8G3UxeV-8
And it's by a guy who spends a lot of time reviewing phones (although the only review that I've bothered watching so far sucked quite badly )
What about the torture test done by CNET. seems pretty water proof to me, from what i consider a reliable source. But that said it is the internet, you never know anymore... but heres the link.. the water test is towards the end
http://cnettv.cnet.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-torture-test-always/9742-1_53-50127632.html

nexus 10 left top plastic corner raised

is any1 suffering from a raised corner on the front top left where the glass and plastic case touch similar to the image attached.
If I didn't know any better that looks exactly like what would happen if someone tried to haphazardly disassemble his Nexus 10 by trying to pry the glass out of the shell with a screwdriver. That isn't a defect.. That was done by a human.
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If I didn't know any better that looks exactly like what would happen if someone tried to haphazardly disassemble his Nexus 10 by trying to pry the glass out of the shell with a screwdriver. That isn't a defect.. That was done by a human.
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yes but the fact is i never did any such thing, i simply use the tablet as i dont suffer any other issue at all except this which i noticed just today, after a week since i got it that too while installing a screen protector
Hey, mine has one just like that!
Though I'm 73% sure that it happened when I was trying to take it out of its case.
Don't buy crappy cases...
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is any1 suffering from a raised corner on the front top left where the glass and plastic case touch similar to the image attached.
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Aww poor baby, now he can't enjoy his Nexus 10 cause he has a slight raised corner, awwww
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shook187 said:
Aww poor baby, now he can't enjoy his Nexus 10 cause he has a slight raised corner, awwww
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You relish being an a-hole? You buy a 500 dollar tablet and you don't expect to have such things. I personally would call Google for a replacement unless the screen is perfect otherwise. My n10 repair came back with one of those marks after Samsung replaced the screen for dead pixels and the thing had awful flex and light bleed. They also managed to scratch up the back of it and i had to send it back in. If it bothers you get a replacement.
Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
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Aww poor baby, now he can't enjoy his Nexus 10 cause he has a slight raised corner, awwww
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Manufacturers must love people like you, they get to make more mistakes with products, while the consumer doesn't care, thus keeping costs down
the fact is i also dont use a case as yet, mayb the defect was since day 1 but i never cared to notice it, untill i was putting on the bodyguardz screen protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200381
Here's a link to the thread I started... I had searched and searched, but couldn't find this... someone over there PM'd me this...
You can see my pics, mines exactly the same, but bottom right corner. And I know the plastic's never been picked at, never been out of it's case...
I think there must be batch of these that has this defect... it looks way to smooth and well fitting to be the result of post-production damage.
i would RMA this ASAP. definitely a manufacture defect.
After taking mine apart (trying to get at an ant)... I can tell you that it is definitely a defect (result of inadequate cooling during injection molding, maybe...) I can also tell you it probably does not affect the actual build reliability (quality is a different subjective measure that is an individual matter), due to how they are assembled.
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After taking mine apart (trying to get at an ant)... I can tell you that it is definitely a defect (result of inadequate cooling during injection molding, maybe...) I can also tell you it probably does not affect the actual build reliability (quality is a different subjective measure that is an individual matter), due to how they are assembled.
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That's what I was looking for. Awesome sauce. Thanks!
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That's what I was looking for. Awesome sauce. Thanks!
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No worries.
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To be honest I would take a raised corner over light bleed. I'd weigh the pros and cons before RMA lol
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I would do a RMA in every circumstances .
- Rised corners
- battery issues
- not working usb , hdmi socket
- screen bleeding
- constant wifi drop
- constant restarts with stock rom
- speakers buzz
And any other unusual problems that are not in the specs
Its a product made by samsung supervised by google for god sake ... Should be a allmost flawless device with little devices with problems .
( Question : its that hard to pun a big battery and a small circuit board inside a solid case ? ) ipad and all the other tablets cost too much for a simple thing called material . software shoul cost more valuable because it is free and inteligence its there more than hardware ..
We all have problems here with this .. It s too much
Shame !
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Its the quality control... there is none...
This just feels like a rush job to me.
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I would do a RMA in every circumstances .
- Rised corners
- battery issues
- not working usb , hdmi socket
- screen bleeding
- constant wifi drop
- constant restarts with stock rom
- speakers buzz
And any other unusual problems that are not in the specs
Its a product made by samsung supervised by google for god sake ... Should be a allmost flawless device with little devices with problems .
( Question : its that hard to pun a big battery and a small circuit board inside a solid case ? ) ipad and all the other tablets cost too much for a simple thing called material . software shoul cost more valuable because it is free and inteligence its there more than hardware ..
We all have problems here with this .. It s too much
Shame !
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So this gap issue?

Hi All,
Got mine today after a long battle with the M8 and its many problems. . .
I have noticed mine has a gap in the top right like many others have but has anyone been in for a waterproof test yet?
In all honestly i'm just curious to know rather then it being a problem for me as I dont have the desire to be dipping into water or swim with it.
It doesnt bother me although I know its not nice having it there but again it doesnt look as bad as the way the original HTC One had gaps open round the metal.
So yep anyone concerned or even taken it to a Sony centre?
Cheers
Mine doesn't have any gap. Well not that I can see. I will not risking trying to dip in in water. Even though it is supposed to be waterproof I am not sure they will cover it.
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Mine doesn't have any gap. Well not that I can see. I will not risking trying to dip in in water. Even though it is supposed to be waterproof I am not sure they will cover it.
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yeah i dont have the desire as I say to be dipping into water . .its seems more ppl have the gap then others . ..
coming from the M8 with multiple scuffs and marks on the metal out the box its really pleasing that its just a gap i have as it doesnt look bad but still the waterproof protection and dust may still be affected by this.
plus I plan to put a case on mine in the end so the gap will be covered up anyway . .I know I shudnt ave to cover it but Im never gonna be carrying a glass phone naked!
Where did you order yours? Maybe you can get it exchanged and hope to get one of the newer batches?
It was phone's 4 u in UK so not the best place to get phone's in my experience so far.. I have been advised to go into store so staff can have a look...
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Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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I believe due to the scarcity of Sony stores in certain areas that people just decide to not bother testing and just sent it back.
Don't know if this is related but anyone who has the gap issue, is the camera lens slightly off centre too? Mine is (although it doesn't affect the camera quality).
I'm not sure what I should do because I've only recently realised I have the very minute gap at the top right but I got my phone on the 22nd of April through mobiles.co.uk so I wonder if I can simply go to a carphone warehouse shop to discuss it or if I have to do it through mobile.co.uk.
Sh4dovv said:
Has it ever been proven that the 'gap' is actually a problem? People seem to get them replaced without ever testing, could be all for nothing?
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Mine has a slight gap I wash it in the sink with soap and water all the time no issues...
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ILS_SuperNova said:
Hi All,
Got mine today after a long battle with the M8 and its many problems. . .
I have noticed mine has a gap in the top right like many others have but has anyone been in for a waterproof test yet?
In all honestly i'm just curious to know rather then it being a problem for me as I dont have the desire to be dipping into water or swim with it.
It doesnt bother me although I know its not nice having it there but again it doesnt look as bad as the way the original HTC One had gaps open round the metal.
So yep anyone concerned or even taken it to a Sony centre?
Cheers
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But i don't think this small gap become cause of water damage!
i mean this gap is in surface of phone and it s not like hole that connect outside to inside of phone!
so it s just ugly...
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I have the gap issue, there is a slight gap on the front top right & a more noticeable one on the front bottom left, I didn't spot it at first but a mate that was admiring the phone did as he spotted a small bit of tobacco trapped between the gap & the bezel.
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Alright, I thought **** it, put my phone under water with the small gap, everything was fine no problems.
As i mentioned i did ask if ppl had taken to sony fot testing .. It bothers me as some ppl say they dont have gaps and its more noticeable because of the left side bring flush with the galss
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ILS_SuperNova said:
As i mentioned i did ask if ppl had taken to sony fot testing .. It bothers me as some ppl say they dont have gaps and its more noticeable because of the left side bring flush with the galss
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Yeah I know what you mean, I want to go to a Sony Centre but nearest one to me is Leeds and I don't like going into Leeds at the best of times but I will go not next week but the week after and have a chat with them.
Im going back back into shop tomorrow to check their other Z2 stock and see how they r.. If theres no gaps then its getting exchange... Thought i cud live with it but it makes the screen at top look angled as left top side is fine and right side drops down
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What about your camera lens? Is it off centre too?
Seems fine the camera just gap.. If other side had a gap i honestly think id be ok bout it as they wud match.. But at minute it looks silly
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I know some ppl have said this doesnt effect the waterproofing but my problem with this is the lool of the handset as it looks badly made
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Hi!
I bought a z2 from mediamarkt. but im in Portugal now. so i asked to a cousin to send me photos to see if there is the gap issue with my unit. can you compare with a good device to see if i need to change mine?
regards.

Nexus 6P weak chassis confirmed.

http://imgur.com/a/Py5Hq
Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
glad screen saved
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glad screen saved
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A screen isn't much good when the warped chassis is holding down the power button.
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This ain't good at all. Sad story, I imagine we will hear more of those. Hopefully Google will accept rma because this will happen to more, and careful, people.
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They initially refused - but agreed to escalate it when I mentioned SoGA. Gawd bless our consumer-friendly laws.
IF that fails I'll claim on our insurance, but honestly I want googz to take the hit here. Shipping a flagship which warps when dropped is not acceptable.
Simply lower grade, cheaper Aluminums been used.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
Should of had a case. I would agree with WilliamStern. Aluminum is not a strong metal and especially since its on a phone, its going to be thin.
SupahSpankeh said:
http://imgur.com/a/Py5Hq
Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
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where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
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where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
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There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
To summarise:
1) not a ding. Was dropped on flat surface. No corners or edges present.
2) was in a case. Google supplied folio case.
3) chassis has warped at the point where the power button sits. Stress fractures visible as silver lines in aluminium. Not a cosmetic issue; power button is forced in.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
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It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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The important thing is: a) it's a nexus not a Samsung b) it's a hardware fault
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I just watched this drop test video https://m.youtube.com/watch and it kinda looks like you might have got a lemon. I too dropped mine from approx 3ft on to a similar surface, mine was in an adopted case and the phone was just fine. Those kind of hard shell cases don't offer much shock protection.
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It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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I guess I'm surprised that you're getting grief from people about being disappointed in the inability of the N6P to take a shot. Of course we should do our best to avoid drops, dings, smashes, etc. But they are a fact of life and a good design is capable of taking "some" abuse. LG even has a commercial running right now showing one of their naked phones being dropped off a table with no damage. I am so careful with my phones that I am ALWAYS able to sell my old devices on eBay and get top dollar because they are in mint condition. In fact, I just got $100 for my old Nexus 4. But that doesn't mean I haven't had accidents. My Nexus 5 took a fall onto a tile floor, hit on the side and skidded across the floor - not a mark on it and 100% functional (yes, it was in a standard case and not some bubble wrap behemoth). I also would expect a new "flagship" to do the same.
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There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
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Yeah I saw it and it looks like that's the point of impact with the floor or no?
That's why plastic is fantastic! Plastic can take a lot of abuse. I'm still struggling in making a decision which one to get 5X or 6P, battery life is important to me and i'd like an AMOLED over LCD but can compromise. But so far, if you have a look at 5X forum - they have no quality issues, in comparison with this forum where every second thread is something wrong with the build quality. Battery life also seems to be quite similar, especially after disabling encryption on 5X, although 6P would always have 30min - 1hour more SOT than 5X... Do i wait till xmas and see of 6P issues will be resolved or get a 5X as i've been rocking Nexus 5 with a smashed screen for the last 6 months waiting for new Nexuses to come out...
I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
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I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
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I highly doubt it's a production issue. More likely it's because cheaper aluminium is being used and that part is the thinnest part of the side on the phone. Huawei /Google aren't going to suddenly use a higher spec Alu, we'll just have to live with it.
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I am guessing Google knew, hence the Nexus Protect option that suddenly materialized for this Nexus launch. I have been told that there are "production issues" (not sure if this is actually why..) when calling and inquiring about my missed ship/delivery dates for my PREORDER.
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