Still debating if to update or not. What does everyone else prefer?
Did you do the official update and lose your unlocked bootloader? Or did you flash a touchwiz ux rom?
Can't speak for everyone else, but I'm liking the TouchWiz UI add-ons.
While I like the touchwiz additions the bugs that have been added alongside of it are really detracting from it being a purely positive addition
I'm not a fan of the design elements of the update, nor do I find the additional features particularly useful. However, the performance and stability improvements are significant enough for me to not consider getting a stock rom flashed 'till it's equally as good. I use my tab a lot for simply browsing, and the improvements in the browser (not counting the ghastly tab colours/design, which I've been forced to remove entirely) are simply brilliant.
As far as the bootloader issue goes - I'd have preferred to keep mine unlocked, like everyone would, but considering you can still install CWM with ease it doesn't seem like an issue right now (at least for my purposes).
ps. A quick search/browse would have revealed at least 1 other big thread addressing this question.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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TouchWizz all the way
Hey guys, first post here, but a long time lurker
I purchased my 10.1 wifi tab last night, so of course I instantly went into geek-out mode. I rooted my tab, then I flashed the ROM to a custom version of TW. I used the latest Starburst ROM (based off of the original TW). Here's some things I noticed:
TW is definitely the sexier option, however I felt like I lost the "snapiness" that vanilla Honeycomb had. I've also read that other owners are saying that TW(Starburst) is faster and smoother than vanilla HC. I think tonight once i get home from work I'll try a non-stock kernel to see if that speeds up the ROM.
The other issue I had is more of a personal preference...TW installs a lot of Samsung apps (mail, music, etc.)...I'm trying to keep an open mind, but as of now I prefer the original google apps.
Overall I'd say TW is very well done and you at least owe it to yourself to check it out, whether it be the stock version or a UX version. Just remember nandroid is your friend! Make a backup and then start experimenting so you can find out for yourself
Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
More often than not custom ROM's offer much better battery life and are faster and have many many added features which stock ROM's do not have, also most custom ROM's will not have Samsung bloatware in them which again will save you much battery,you can if you wish apply some themes on custom ROM's,the list is endless.
kingoddball said:
Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
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How's it going? I was on the N900 as well (still use it as my music player) and have recently moved on to the SGS2. speed wise it is miles apart! even thouse the Maemo repos have excellent apps, you do notice the lack of commercial apps for Maemo when using Android
i'm not sure if i have all the answers you require... a simple way to compare custom and regular ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
Rooting your SGS2 isnt as easy as typing "root" on the N900... you'll have to use CF Root with CWM (i think):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and a list of useful Root/ROM links at Android Forums:
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-...guide-updated-12-00-pm-bst-jul-03-2011-a.html
i hope this helps
Thank you both. I'm not really a commercial app/program person.
I'm an active open source user. I love to modify and help with programs. I don't really like apple style control over programs.
I'm going to check those links. Thanks!
I hope I can try bring some of the work I made for Maemo over to android.
Most (90%) is terminal based, seems like droid users love the GUI stuff. Hehehe!
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
kingoddball said:
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
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nope, in general this doesn't exist. you have a linux kernel with busybox (assuming you install this along with su), but afaik, that is the limit of what you might expect from a distro. All the apps are running in the android environment, unless you wanted to chroot into something like ubuntu. Whilst I suspect there are some distros that are close to running on an android phone (or netbook, like the ac100) you're no longer running android then.
Try
SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android) as a terminal emulator (shell python etc) and it is fully open source.
ithehappy said:
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
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so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
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so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
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You answered by yourself.
That's what I meant anyway.
Regards.
there wasn't a question at hand to be answered...
Bit like why do people buy different cars .
Custom rom may add something or remove something from the phone is the basics .
jje
I found from flashing HTC Desire, that the cries of better battery life and performance on custom ROM's were generally over exaggeration or complete nonsense, as I tried loads of custom roms and the battery and performance remained the same throughout.
For this phone, my battery life is awesome anyway, and performance is awesome also. I also seem to be pretty much bug free, also
As for the technical questions and what not in this thread it's also gone over my head lol!
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
You can just install 'Advanced Power Menu' for Reboot feature on a Stock ROM.
Altimas said:
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
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I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
.Arkham said:
I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
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Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
jje
JJEgan said:
Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
The only real alternative ROM is Cyanogenmod anyway. Any other rom is just some settings changed with notepad and some icons changed with photoshop.
.Arkham said:
I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
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Yeah you wont lose a thing, just gives you a chance to add more try leomars revolution rom, it got its own kitchen apo in market so you can install tweaks and themes from the app !
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You use custom roms if you think your cellphone isn't amazingly fast enough or if you think four buttons at the lower panel is to iPhone-ish. I personally love Samsung bloatware...
I currently Using Custom Roms for the past 6 months.... I make my phone (Xperia Mini Pro (SK17i)) as the tester for every ROMs. I also use it for personal. Well... Im not hating the Stock rom from sony, but sometimes im really desperate about those latest ROMs like Android 4.1 - 4.3 (and Even ANDROID 4.4 KITKAT). So, I try to make my phone's bootloader unlock, by using the official method. the DRMs are lost but it's ok, because i dont buy any musics online.
After I unlocked the Bootloader, I try the other roms... Im always want to see every post in every thread about those roms, until I saw this LegayXperia which is kinda cool.
So... here is my Very First Impressions about the CM10.1 and CM10.2 by LegacyXperia.... The System UI is much similar to the stock google ROMs, but this is the best roms that i can get, because of some reasons:
1. I like the Stock UI (not the sony UI from ICS).
2. I want the Rom that has good memory management, no more no less.
3. And lastly, It updates constantly such as builds and realeases.
There are the Few bugs, but The developers really tried their best as much as they could do, as long as the Roms got the best performance, I expreimented the tweaks and bandwidths and stuff. I try to fix the issues of my phone such as overheat, the top part of the screen isnt responding, and the battery draining issues. I applied the tweaks from different thread and it works flawlessly, no battery drain issues (governor tweak), no touchscreen issues (touch screen fix), and the bandwidth is much stable(change bandwidth). I cant remember those links, but you have to try check it out on the other threads or seach at google, it might be help.
NOTE: im not judging other roms. I just sharing my thoughts about these ROMs.
You should post this kinda of stuff in the dedicated ROMs thread in the android development section. And please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969555
In addition to the post above, thread closed.
Not really liking the features list on most of the custom ROMs and my phone is coming in a couple days. I see a lot of useless features added that appear to be the personal preference of the ROM creator.
Looking at reviews of the phone I'd much rather keep this phone close to stock than my crap Note II.
Is my best option to root stock, or are there some very slightly modified stock-based ROMs?
You mean aosp? Stock generally refers to the phone as it was shipped. So why not CM, it isn't far from aosp.
I don't know if the terminology here is different or what but on other devices stock modified is when someone takes the stock ROM and either modifies it at a basic level to improve performance and battery life, or takes it and makes a new ROM based off of it which is pretty different.
TheNetwork said:
I don't know if the terminology here is different or what but on other devices stock modified is when someone takes the stock ROM and either modifies it at a basic level to improve performance and battery life, or takes it and makes a new ROM based off of it which is pretty different.
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Your looking for something like cleanrom, but that guy jumped ship a while ago. XE 2.0 seems to be your only hope, until kitkat comes out then hope for a new ROM Dev.
Root and debloat.
Sent from my LG-D800
TheNetwork said:
I don't know if the terminology here is different or what but on other devices stock modified is when someone takes the stock ROM and either modifies it at a basic level to improve performance and battery life, or takes it and makes a new ROM based off of it which is pretty different.
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D800 here also. Can't say I have seen any stock rom worth bothering with. I was hoping for a deodexed stock rom, but I don't recall seeing any. I adjust my stock phone to my liking with xposed framework, G2 module and a couple other such as advanced power menu.
TheNetwork said:
Not really liking the features list on most of the custom ROMs and my phone is coming in a couple days. I see a lot of useless features added that appear to be the personal preference of the ROM creator.
Looking at reviews of the phone I'd much rather keep this phone close to stock than my crap Note II.
Is my best option to root stock, or are there some very slightly modified stock-based ROMs?
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OP we are not going there....you see a lot of "useless" features in the ROMs, from the Dev's because it is their ROM they are providing freely to the Community. Now I know you did not mean that, in being ungrateful, but statements like this bring unneeded attention.
But there is nothing wrong with Stock with root....so if that is what you need or desire then so be it.
And to keep the trolling/unneeded posting, Thread Closed.
Merry Christmas.
Hey there guys and gals.
I am new to the whole rooting thing.
I have the LG G3 LS 990 ZV8.
I rooted it already and i am now looking for a rom to use. I wanted to post this with the roms in that subformum, but have less than ten posts.
So anyway, I had a few questions. I was thinking about using the Carbon 4.4.4, but the GAPPS linked were not there. OP (HP Tesla) mentioned what he uses, so i could find it no problem ut had other questions.
If i am at 5.1 should i rom to 5.1 not backwards? i assume it can be done but i would have to flash back to 4.4.4 myself first. I kinda wanna keep it all as simple as i can.
Also i had looked on another rom, and the GAPPS it linked to looked like it removed most of the features that the rom added.
So i would like some advice from those more experienced than I.
I would like a rom that has customization options (many do, so thats easy), Less bloatware (Again common), Adblocker, which not many i saw had listed in features, whether becasue it is assumed they are included, or not many have it, and additional things like audio tinkering, battery life improvements and the like are bonuses. Stability would be highly appreciated as well.
In sum, i would like input to which rom fits my needs (i looked at many myself, but its kinda like someone gave me a dictionary and told me to pick my favorite word, i just need help from someone with a better vocabulary.) and what the different kernels, GAPPS, and such bring to the table.
If some of you would like to say what you use and why.
Any help is much appreciated,