[Q] Post Root Questions - Noobie - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After many attempts I finally got my Samsung Fantasy V2.3.5 rooted. I've tried several methods that I found on forums and after running one of them with Odin, I now have a slightly system. That did not root so I kept trying and now have it rooted and superuser privileges which is what I wanted so I can delete some bloat.
But now I have a few questions (probably pretty basic but as I said, I'm really new at this)
When I ran the Odin attempt I installed CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM.tar.md5 and also a program called atlas_v2.2.pit, which I understand created a new partition. I also ran cwm-recovery-ALL.tar and I can now boot into CWM recovery.
I would like to clean up my device and get rid of all that I put on it that I don't need. Here are my questions:
1. Can I get back to my original system? Is the new system on a different partition and if I delete that partition, will the device than default to my original?
2. If I go into CWM Recovery and clear the cache/reset, besides losing all of my data (contacts, settings, etc) will I also lose ROOT?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Allinone1 said:
After many attempts I finally got my Samsung Fantasy V2.3.5 rooted. I've tried several methods that I found on forums and after running one of them with Odin, I now have a slightly system. That did not root so I kept trying and now have it rooted and superuser privileges which is what I wanted so I can delete some bloat.
But now I have a few questions (probably pretty basic but as I said, I'm really new at this)
When I ran the Odin attempt I installed CI500_VZW_EH03_GB_CM.tar.md5 and also a program called atlas_v2.2.pit, which I understand created a new partition. I also ran cwm-recovery-ALL.tar and I can now boot into CWM recovery.
I would like to clean up my device and get rid of all that I put on it that I don't need. Here are my questions:
1. Can I get back to my original system? Is the new system on a different partition and if I delete that partition, will the device than default to my original?
2. If I go into CWM Recovery and clear the cache/reset, besides losing all of my data (contacts, settings, etc) will I also lose ROOT?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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well,,, using ODIN and the ROM file and the .pit file is essentially formatting the internal harddrive of your phone and recreating different & new partitions for the Rom to operate with.
It did not keep what you had.
{that also answers you question #1 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999097
is a good post about PIT files and what they do.
the link is on the Galaxy S I9000 page which is a cousin phone of the fascinate, couldn't find the fassy version.
edit::: oh here it is ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513143
2012 Fascinate Rooting Glossary for Noobs - Definitions in layman's terms
This also has all the other terms and general knowledge you'll need to get going...
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to answer question #2...
No, by using that particular .tar.md5 file it is already pre-rooted,,, so wiping cache, or dalvik, or "factory reset" will not erase root
.

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[Q] [Telus T959D Fascinate] N00B help required.

Hi - looking for some help. I have a Telus T959D Fascinate it is rooted via superoneclick. I have a ton of apps installed along with 3 paid apps (Titanium BU, Swift X keyboard, and ADW Launcher).
I installed ROM manager with the intent to get CWD on - says it successful but when I go into recovery its stock recovery.
Q1. I noticed it created an update.zip in root - do I need to flash that with stock recovery first?
Q2. Will putting on CWD in this manner cause my apps to get lost?
Q3. is there any step by step tips to root your phone, correct any lags (see a lot on voodoo but its a few months old) and ready it for custom roms?
Any tips and how to's would be greatly appreciated - especially to safe house my system as is.
Also, I noticed ROM manager and Titanium store things on the SD - I'm assuming I need to copy those files to a computer or external SD on my phone or I would lose any backups or recovery ROMs when I flash (is that correct).
Again, thanks for any help, and love this forum!
jpmccarthy said:
Hi - looking for some help. I have a Telus T959D Fascinate it is rooted via superoneclick. I have a ton of apps installed along with 3 paid apps (Titanium BU, Swift X keyboard, and ADW Launcher).
I installed ROM manager with the intent to get CWD on - says it successful but when I go into recovery its stock recovery.
Q1. I noticed it created an update.zip in root - do I need to flash that with stock recovery first?
Q2. Will putting on CWD in this manner cause my apps to get lost?
Q3. is there any step by step tips to root your phone, correct any lags (see a lot on voodoo but its a few months old) and ready it for custom roms?
Any tips and how to's would be greatly appreciated - especially to safe house my system as is.
Also, I noticed ROM manager and Titanium store things on the SD - I'm assuming I need to copy those files to a computer or external SD on my phone or I would lose any backups or recovery ROMs when I flash (is that correct).
Again, thanks for any help, and love this forum!
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Hey man, what is it that your trying to do exactly?
Firstly, thanks for the reply. Essentially, I'm already rooted - done. Its the next steps that are tripping me up.
I would like to have my current applications backed up with some advice on where to put them using Titanium. I would like to have CWM recovery installed so I can get an image of my ROM as well as set me up to try others (CM7, MIUI, etc.)
Lastly, realizing now that the Telus Fascinate is a different beast - not the verizon model, more like a Vibrant.
Then, any recommendations from Telus F users on what can make the phone better - voodoo, lagfixes and what have you.
I do like my phone, I love the customization of Android (I jumped ship from iPhone), love that its Linux based, but still feeling my way around

[Q] Nabi 2 Kids Android Tablet

Hello Everyone,
I have not play with any android devices since android 2.0 and even back then found self rooting tools. I got my Kid Nabi2 tablet. Runs Android 4.0.4 currently. Nice little tablet. Problem is only have 8GB or storage. About 4gb after all system partitions and recoveries. So my question is can I safely back up my recovery partition to external source to free up some space? I assume recovery partition has complete recovery files when I do restore to factory option. I I remember correctly android has few partitions. /boot, /system, /recovery, /sd. is there a way just to have your operating system and whatever apps. Have recovery mode but have files on like sd card. If I decide to root this device dose that changes anything in my recovery partition. If device is rooted can I just go back to completely stock by doing factory reset? I just want to make sure that if I root it and want to go back to complete stock for any reason I can do that.
You can restore from your backup that gets made after you flash the custom recovery.
Here is the original script for using on Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32207344
Though you should use the gapps package from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35888524 as it gets rid of the 'android upgrading' messages on every boot.
If you want a more manual method, or are on linux, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
t499user said:
You can restore from your backup that gets made after you flash the custom recovery.
Here is the original script for using on Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32207344
Though you should use the gapps package from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35888524 as it gets rid of the 'android upgrading' messages on every boot.
If you want a more manual method, or are on linux, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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T499user, thank you for replaying. I do run windows. I did look at the section you direct me to me before. What I don't understand is when you root with his program do I use option 1 or 2. Where dose the back up go and how do I restore it later? when I restore dose that bring it back completely to stock, meaning just like it was when i got it? I'm currently running new nabi software do I have to worry about losing wifi?
Also is there a way of freeing up space on my nabi 2 by keeping a back up somewhere else. I think now there is recovery/back up partition. that works when I do factory reset. is that is how that works?
By installing new custom recovery would other recovery still be there?
Sorry trying to get back after many Apple years..
skull791 said:
T499user, thank you for replaying. I do run windows. I did look at the section you direct me to me before. What I don't understand is when you root with his program do I use option 1 or 2. Where dose the back up go and how do I restore it later? when I restore dose that bring it back completely to stock, meaning just like it was when i got it? I'm currently running new nabi software do I have to worry about losing wifi?
Also is there a way of freeing up space on my nabi 2 by keeping a back up somewhere else. I think now there is recovery/back up partition. that works when I do factory reset. is that is how that works?
By installing new custom recovery would other recovery still be there?
Sorry trying to get back after many Apple years..
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I prefer to do it manually, but if you are going to use the script, use option 2. Then you can install gapps from TWRP using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065878.
The backup that gets created is of the current system state. It is stored in /sdcard/TWRP/backups/*serialnumber*/backupname
No worries about wifi as long as you did all of the OTA updates.
t499user said:
I prefer to do it manually, but if you are going to use the script, use option 2. Then you can install gapps from TWRP using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065878.
The backup that gets created is of the current system state. It is stored in /sdcard/TWRP/backups/*serialnumber*/backupname
No worries about wifi as long as you did all of the OTA updates.
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Now do I have to install TWRP or when i root it will do it for me?
It will be done with the script.
t499user said:
It will be done with the script.
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What dose exactly gets back up?
also do you know why nabi2 only has about 4.45gb of free storage when total is 8gb? 3.55gb seems a lot for system files???
skull791 said:
What dose exactly gets back up?
also do you know why nabi2 only has about 4.45gb of free storage when total is 8gb? 3.55gb seems a lot for system files???
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The system, boot, and data partitions get backed up. That is the way they set it up for the partitions.
All of your questions have already been answered in the other threads, might want to do a search for 'Nabi' and have a read.
t499user said:
The system, boot, and data partitions get backed up. That is the way they set it up for the partitions.
All of your questions have already been answered in the other threads, might want to do a search for 'Nabi' and have a read.
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T499user trust me I been reading crazy and still cant find an answer. Want to point me to the right place ?
No problem, I would start with the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
t499user said:
No problem, I would start with the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905674
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016463
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Thank you. I did read all of them. Do you know where I can find something about android system file. Mostly why I have only 4.45gb out of 8. Is thereba way to move back up patition? To external source to free up some space?

[Q] New CWM can't restore backup of older CWM

Hey guys,
I have a little problem I can't find a solution to by searching.
I have a GS3 i9300 rooted with CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4.
When rooting, a version of CWM was installed (5.something).
Later, when installing af custom rom, I followed instructions and updated to a newer CWM (6.0.1.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719744
Later, I was thinking about restoring my original system backup, which I had made with the older CWM version right after rooting.
The new CWM can't restore my older backup. It can't recognize the file, not even when I copy it manually to the new CWM folder.
How can I solve this problem?
Do I need to install an older CWM again?
If yes, then one more question: As I said, my original CWM was installed when rooting. Can someone give me a download just for the CWM tar file included in the mentioned CF-Root?
Thanks a lot in advanced,
Agoston
Replace with older CWM root .
From Original Development section .
jje
still not recognizing + weird directory tree
After trying out three custom ROMs and after updating CWM, my system directory is rather weird. Besides the usual system folders, there is a "0" folder, that contains another set of system folders, and another "0" folder, containing the same. Also, my free internal storage as good as disappeared, from 8 GB to 1 GB. So, it looks like I have several systems on each other?!
How can I reduce this weird directory tree to just one? Do I need to wipe the SD-card?!
And by the way, I rooted the device again through Odin, and the old CWM is now installed again. Still though, it can't recognize the old backup.
As you probably imagine, I am hesitating to format SD-card, especially if CWM can't restore my factory ROM.
Can anyone help?
Thanks!
szaboagoston said:
Still though, it can't recognize the old backup.
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I copied the backup directory manually to the "most superficial" CWM folder, and now trying system restore. I'ts not easy with four (!) different CWM directories.
Unfortunately I got an "error restoring data" message, and the phone is stuck in Samsung logo when booting.
Also, when trying to do a factory reset, I get the message: "error mounting /sd-card/.android_secure!"
Could this be because there is not enough space or something?!
If someone could help me with how to proceed, I would appreciate it!
Thanks.
Okay, the issue is solved. I admit, I might have been a little inpatient. Despite the "error restoring data" message, the stock factory system booted after a few tries - I might not have waited long enough. It seems that these "Folder 0"s were all just security copies of the old systems, and of course consumed a lot of hard disc space, so I just deleted them. Haven't met any negative consequences so far. I just got scared because of the error message and the too long boot time. Also this phenomenon with "Folder 0"s is not something I met before on other devices.

[Q] Will rooting my UKK6 delete all my apps and app data?

I've backed up all my contacts, SMS, etc, everything except apps and app data.
I'm gonna upgrade to JB but first I need to root to backup my app data.
If I follow method 3 on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Will it delete all my app data?
If it will, should I just use Samsung Kies to upgrade the firmware to JB?
Thanks
Rooting will not change or delete any apps or data. Rooting simply gives you access to the root of your phone, allowing more control over your phone. personally, I recommend framaroot, a one-click app to root the i777 (and many other phones).
Once you're rooted, I would recommend getting titanium backup, which would allow you to:
backup all of your apps and their data.
backup sms & mms & wifi data & ...
get rid of system apps that you don't want or need.
...and a host of other awesome items.
I don't know whether how updating to JB through kies will affect your app or system data, but I'm fairly certain that it won't keep much of it.
Yes, I know rooting my device will not delete apps or apps data, but that't not exactly what I thought I was asking.
I linked to a specific method(method 3) in a thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894) which says that I would need to flash binaries to version UCKH7 in order to root because UKK6 cannot be rooted by SuperOneClick. So basically by asking about rooting my UKK6, I thought I implied that I would be flashing binaries.
So really what I'm asking is if flashing binaries will delete my apps/app data.
But, I noticed you suggested I use framaroot, that looks like a new development but I have version UKK6 where there seems to be problems, will it work with my UKK6?
ProbableDesigner said:
Yes, I know rooting my device will not delete apps or apps data, but that't not exactly what I thought I was asking.
I linked to a specific method(method 3) in a thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894) which says that I would need to flash binaries to version UCKH7 in order to root because UKK6 cannot be rooted by SuperOneClick. So basically by asking about rooting my UKK6, I thought I implied that I would be flashing binaries.
So really what I'm asking is if flashing binaries will delete my apps/app data.
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a dirty flash MIGHT retain your apps and data and still boot, but IMO dirty flashing isn't worth the trouble down the road.
When flashing firmware, it is good practice to start from a clean slate (wipe data/factory reset), which means intentionally clearing the data that it seems you're trying to preserve. I have recently learned that some custom roms even contain their own scripts to conduct additional housecleaning to ensure a bug-free install. To avoid the permanent loss of your data, I suggest using titanium backup to save all user apps and their data, wifi data, sms & mms, (and more) and then safely restore them onto the new rom.
ProbableDesigner said:
But, I noticed you suggested I use framaroot, that looks like a new development but I have version UKK6 where there seems to be problems, will it work with my UKK6?
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I trust the framaroot compatibility list, which includes the sgh-i777. I have not used framaroot with uckk6 to verify whether it works or not.
@ProbableDesigner,
The rule of thumb is always perform a wipe data/factory reset when changing base. So, flashing UCKH7 over UCKK6 would require a wipe.
You're correct, framaroot was not around when that guide was written. I'm pretty sure I remember someone saying it worked for them on UCKK6. But if it doesn't work, it will not do any damage, so I would suggest try it first and see.
Oh I see, Ok, thank you cyril279 and creepyncrawly. I did not know that you should wipe before flashing.
Also, wow, I did not expect a response from you creepyncrawly I thought you would have disappeared from the forums since you posted the guide so long ago, but it's good you responded since you created the guide, it helps put my mind at ease.
I'll try framaroot and see if it works, thanks again.

[Q] Help with flashing custom ROM

Hey,
1st post here at xda. I have a s3 running 4.12 , stock rom vodafone in ireland.
I installed CWM and rooted phone. Then done a backup with CWM.
I tried to install R5 stock rom from internal sd card, i selected the zip file and the installation started but had an error
i coulnd;t see.
At this stage i panicked a bit. I tried again but wiped internal sdcard in CWM before i started.
Now the phone wont boot to any OS (since tried to install 2 other custom roms from xda, both times screnn went blank after choosing installation options)
Cant recover backup as its no longer on internal sd card.
I can access CWM. Should I start by installing stock rom from samsung site ?
Am I doing the custom rom installation correct by using CWM to install from zip file in sd card ?
I tried to install roms with odin but its looking for tar file ?
thanks for reading,
Phil
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Flash custom rom with recovery or odin?
boomboomer said:
You are heading for a hard brick by not understanding what you are doing.
Go and read all the sticky threads in general forum, then carefully follow the guide on how to return to stock.
Once you have your phone working again then install the latest recovery version (I'd suggest philz), backup your efs, then try again.
Read and understand before you hit go.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
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thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
Do your research before attempting things like this. I'm relatively new in flashing, before I began the first time I made sure I followed and understood every steps before proceeding, go check youtube for tutorial videos if you are really not sure, sometimes it pays being paranoid
philophilo said:
thanks. Read the general forum, was helpful. Its a great site, but in fairness there is so much information and some of it is conflicting to me, (maby i'm losing it!)
got the phone booting up again so happy days. will take my time and do backup before trying any custom roms.
After spending days reading how to flash custom roms, i'm still not getting how to 'flash custom rom' , as per the instructions i add zip to sd card then use custom recovery to run zip file ? Other places say to use odin, but every custom rom i've downloaded doesn't contain a tar file ?
Just want to improve battery life with a better rom, phone is 2 years old and battery isn;t the best.
thanks
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Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
Memory loss after installing ROM
Benko111 said:
Hi there,
you've got to understand that your first post sounded like yo did not do your research at all, which generally tons of people don't do whining about
their bricked devices afterwards in the forums. If you don't understand what you do - don't do it.
Your original mistake was probably not properly wiping and/or formatting certain partitions (e.g. one forgotten wipe of system or data partition often puts your phone into BL, all depending on what version you come from & go to etc.) before flashing the zip from CWM (which is the way you usually flash custom ROMS, you're right).
Every ROM provides installation instructions which are to be follwed exactly. Never use a file not made for your specific device. Don't do anything before you know how to revert in case of disaster. Don't do anything before you got a full Nandroid & EFS backup both transferred to your PC. And again, understand what you do.
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thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
0 folder
philophilo said:
thanks benko.
Installed philz recovery and done backup to ext sdcard (errored out was <1 G free space on card)
Done backup to internal sdcard - had about 7GB free
Copied recovery folder back to PC.
Installed Revolution ROM and afterwards noticed internal memory only 1GB
Am now copying the blob folder to PC.
Is this the case with all of the recoveries to use so much space doing a backup ?
Where do I read up on the 0 folder here, i've searched but there is so much info its a bit confusing.
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I know the subject has been covered already, just looking for a thread where i can read in simply form about what to do.
I copied blob file to pc , freed up another 4 gb, OS and backups still taking up 12/16GB of internal storage without any user app or data , just not right.

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