Wiping and replacing stock ROM? - Motorola Droid RAZR

My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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theErock said:
My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
Here's a bit more precise:
If you want to make backups
Boot into safestrap, select boot options and make sure the slot you're currently using (not stock!). Then, back to the main menu, choose backup. A bit more than halfway down, you'll see "Storage: " - I'd make sure your external card is selected - simply tap on storage to see which one / change it. Then, just swipe to back up.
Next, select boot options and select Stock, then repeat the next steps to back it up.
If you want more space
Next, go to boot options, select slot 1 (or where you have it installed), and delete it. (Make note of the size - I might be wrong, but if you ever want to restore the slot 1 backup, you'll want the same size created later).
Overwrite stock
Back in boot options, select Stock Rom, return to main menu and select Install. After this, just continue as if you're installing on a different slot. Assuming you've downloaded the latest CM and gapps (can't post full links ... grrr ... https [...] download [dot] cyanogenmod [dot] org [slash] ?device=spyder and saved it to your SD card, navigate to the rom zip file, select it, then add the gapps file.
If you have any trouble, post a reply. It was actually several months ago that I did this, so I actually don't remember if there was anything I had to do afterwards, but I believe it went smoothly.
Good luck!

gotmikhail said:
I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
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Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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theErock said:
Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without

gotmikhail said:
Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without
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If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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theErock said:
If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
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gotmikhail said:
Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
At least, I didn't ...
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Also, if it makes you feel more comfortable, I recently made a full backup of the stock slot w/ CM11 on it, restored the original stock I had and booted it just fine in order to do some stuff with the verizon voicemail app (maybe I could have installed it in CM11, but I didn't want to), then rebooted to safestrap, restored CM11 to stock, rebooted and everything worked fine.

Yeah something is making me reluctant & apprehensive about doing if. On scared I'm might brick it.
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Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.

karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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theErock said:
Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.

gotmikhail said:
The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.
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Do you use bootloader or a recovery system like Safestrap or bmm (I think)
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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theErock said:
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.

mikeoswego said:
I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.
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Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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theErock said:
Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.

mikeoswego said:
The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.
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OK that makes sense thanks for elaborating on that :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.

karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Good luck!

karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Like wise tell me how it goes. :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Success?

Not yet need new SD card I guess backed up stock, cheched to make sure everything was there and SD was empty. I won't replace stock enless I have the backups.

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[Q] Format Internal Storage

This is a question that may have been answered elsewhere but I can't find it specifically discussed here for the Verizon Galaxy S4.
I'm currently running the most recent Hyperdrive ROM. About a week ago I downloaded the AOKP milestone 2 release for the S4 and installed it on my device. Unfortunately there were some bugs that kept showing up and I eventually wiped the install and reverted back to Hyperdrive. I'm not satisfied with my current storage capacities on the device itself. Hyperdrive, though a great ROM, is still Touchwiz based and therefore there is very little available storage once installed on the phone.
I'm considering trying AOKP again. May wiping a few more times and ensuring that the install is bug free before I revert this time. My question is this. I recall there still being very little storage on the device after I installed AOKP which is unusual since it's only a 180MB file versus the 1.5GB file size of Hyperdrive. Would formating the internal storage be an option during install? Would it free up whatever recovery partitions or bloat that is eating up that 16GB? According to what I've read there should be about 14 to 14.5GB of available storage on a bone dry Verizon Galaxy S4 with not OS installed. Wouldn't AOKP with it's small file size equate to 13GB? I'm guessing I'm missing something. Thank you to whoever advises.
Sarge101st said:
This is a question that may have been answered elsewhere but I can't find it specifically discussed here for the Verizon Galaxy S4.
I'm currently running the most recent Hyperdrive ROM. About a week ago I downloaded the AOKP milestone 2 release for the S4 and installed it on my device. Unfortunately there were some bugs that kept showing up and I eventually wiped the install and reverted back to Hyperdrive. I'm not satisfied with my current storage capacities on the device itself. Hyperdrive, though a great ROM, is still Touchwiz based and therefore there is very little available storage once installed on the phone.
I'm considering trying AOKP again. May wiping a few more times and ensuring that the install is bug free before I revert this time. My question is this. I recall there still being very little storage on the device after I installed AOKP which is unusual since it's only a 180MB file versus the 1.5GB file size of Hyperdrive. Would formating the internal storage be an option during install? Would it free up whatever recovery partitions or bloat that is eating up that 16GB? According to what I've read there should be about 14 to 14.5GB of available storage on a bone dry Verizon Galaxy S4 with not OS installed. Wouldn't AOKP with it's small file size equate to 13GB? I'm guessing I'm missing something. Thank you to whoever advises.
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in recovery do a factory reset (if using team win recovery aka twrp) go to wipe then slide the slider all the way to the right....then go back once more to wipe and hit advanced wipe...select cache and dalvik and system....then flash aokp and the GApps package then fix permissions.....once you boot up go to settings>>storage and see what is eating up the space if any at all.... not sure if youre new to flashing or not but backups take up A LOT A LOT A LOT of space anywhere from 1-2GB or more per backup....go to settings>>storage and everything you need to know is there about what is taking up space....if you dont find your answer there come back here and let me know what you see or just PM me and ill gladly help you out...are you restoring data or using titanium backup?
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in recovery do a factory reset (if using team win recovery aka twrp) go to wipe then slide the slider all the way to the right....then go back once more to wipe and hit advanced wipe...select cache and dalvik and system....then flash aokp and the GApps package then fix permissions.....once you boot up go to settings>>storage and see what is eating up the space if any at all.... not sure if youre new to flashing or not but backups take up A LOT A LOT A LOT of space anywhere from 1-2GB or more per backup....go to settings>>storage and everything you need to know is there about what is taking up space....if you dont find your answer there come back here and let me know what you see or just PM me and ill gladly help you out...are you restoring data or using titanium backup?
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Thanks for the advice. I went ahead and did the factory reset and usual wipes. I also formatted the system, data, and device storage using CWM. Sure enough after installing AOKP I'm down to 8gb of available space instead of 2. It was probably backups taking up the space as you mentioned. Thank you again for the advice.
Sarge101st said:
Thanks for the advice. I went ahead and did the factory reset and usual wipes. I also formatted the system, data, and device storage using CWM. Sure enough after installing AOKP I'm down to 8gb of available space instead of 2. It was probably backups taking up the space as you mentioned. Thank you again for the advice.
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no worries dude yeah absolutely backups take a tremendous amount of space
JamesPumaEnjoi said:
no worries dude yeah absolutely backups take a tremendous amount of space
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I'm on MDK bootleader with GPE 4.4.4 Danvdh. Trying to free up mystery missing GBs.
On OUDhs CWM Touch Recovery v 1.0.3.5.
Whats the difference between "Wipe" and "Format". Dont want to brick the phone.

[Q] PA 3.99 RC2 not mounting internal SD Card

Hi,
i have no Problems with stock Rom, but in all 4.3 ROMs especially in PA 3.99 RC2, the Android system doesn't mount the sdcard0.
Does anyone know why?
PS: I am using the JBX Kernel
kattzenfleisch said:
Hi,
i have no Problems with stock Rom, but in all 4.3 ROMs especially in PA 3.99 RC2, the Android system doesn't mount the sdcard0.
Does anyone know why?
PS: I am using the JBX Kernel
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try to clear cache from your recovery or else reset to factory defaults, this trick worked for my wi-fi issues
hi,
i already tried that
this also happens on every other 4.3 ROM to me with and without jbx kernel
Got The same problem. Gallery and camera wont let me in
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I think this is an issue on all 4.3 ROMs, I have the same problem on Carbon 4.3.
thanks for the replies, then all 4.3 ROMs are just unusable
strange that noone complained about that in the DEV forums
kattzenfleisch said:
thanks for the replies, then all 4.3 ROMs are just unusable
strange that noone complained about that in the DEV forums
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This is not true.. Every 4.3 rom i have flashed has had storage1/storage0. My micro sd card is where i keep my mp3 music i listen to via player pro. Sd is where my custom ringtones i created are stored along with pics, etc. Works great. Listen, sometimes going back to the beginning and starting over with stock firmware flash is needed as these memory slots can get corrupted. I use titanium back up for any/all apps/data with out these issues. Or simply go back to stock and copy what u dont want to lose to your micro sd (root explorer) is great or simply plug phone into computer and create a new folder on desk top for your keeps. After copy, format sd storage (pull micro sd card first) or simply copy nothing to micro sd only to computer and format both sd/micro sd. (Recomend) Would for sure do factory reset, if using ss uninstall and start fresh. This is not a guaranteed solution, only a suggestion.. Seems to have worked just fine for me more than once.. And others with similar issue.
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I have the same problem - only 1.28 GB of internal storage is seen by phone, even though it shows 13+ GB when connected to the PC.
is there anything that may help, (other then formatting everything) ?
I have already wiped cache/dalvic cache and mounted sdcard0 and sdcard1 in the CWM Recovery - didn't make any difference.

Install over stock ROM? (Or delete it?)

I'm using SS 3.65 on my Droid Razr (XT912). I'm currently running SlimKat and, as backup, CM 10.1 on my two 'extra' slots.
I NEVER use the stock ROM anymore - I think in the last six months I've rebooting into it just one time. So I am wondering:
Can I just delete the stock ROM 'slot'? (and in doing so free up that memory for other use)
Or can I erase and put another ROM in that slot?
Finally, if I EVER needed stock again, is there a 'stock' ROM out there that I could flash back into that 'slot'?
I'd like to be able to use that memory space that the useless stock ROM takes up. Just don't know if this is safe to do... Or how to do it exactly.
Thanks.
-Tom
Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
soundgirl101 said:
Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
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Sorry to knock the dust off an old post, but for the SS flash on the stock slot, did you just wipe cache, data, and android secure before you flashed? Or did you do something more extensive? Thanks.
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[Q] hidden files taking up all my space

So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
m4gkman said:
So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
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If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
buhohitr said:
If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
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the hidden files are in the internal storage, not my sd card.
buhohitr said:
If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
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i might just have to do a factory data reset, and start from scratch and reroot and start over. I really dont want to have to do that though
m4gkman said:
i might just have to do a factory data reset, and start from scratch and reroot and start over. I really dont want to have to do that though
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Factory reset won't clear, you need to format sdcard,
buhohitr said:
Factory reset won't clear, you need to format sdcard,
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even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
m4gkman said:
even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
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screenshots taken without sd card in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/12530759613/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/12530758613/
sorry for the links, the images werent' working
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even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
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I don't think you understand the misc files are hidden, there no way you can delete them. When you boot into recovery, do the following:
wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system and format sdcard. Format sdcard is formatting your INTERNAL space, not your external sdcard. After done reflash rom.
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I don't think you understand the misc files are hidden, there no way you can delete them. When you boot into recovery, do the following:
wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system and format sdcard. Format sdcard is formatting your INTERNAL space, not your external sdcard. After done reflash rom.
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When i hit wipe on safe strap, is it the format data button, or a full advanced wipe? sorry im asking so many questions, still really new to safestrap.
m4gkman said:
When i hit wipe on safe strap, is it the format data button, or a full advanced wipe? sorry im asking so many questions, still really new to safestrap.
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Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone. If you assigned 3gb for safestrap, then you should only have 3gb left for storage. So my question is the junk files are on the new rom (3gb safestrap) or from the original O/S? I don't believe safestrap offers the option to "format internal SDcard". If you want to continue to use safestrap, you should be on top of the storage space. Since I don't know all the junks are from, but I suggest you should start clean; Uninstall safestrap, Odin your phone back to stock ROM using PIT file. Now you should have a super clean phone. Record your storage space to see what's the total space, how much in used and how much free. At this point you should also take a look at app to SD, where all the new apps will be install to your external SDcard instead. From now on after you flash new rom or install safestrap, you should check your storage to have an idea what used up the space.
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Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone. If you assigned 3gb for safestrap, then you should only have 3gb left for storage. So my question is the junk files are on the new rom (3gb safestrap) or from the original O/S? I don't believe safestrap offers the option to "format internal SDcard". If you want to continue to use safestrap, you should be on top of the storage space. Since I don't know all the junks are from, but I suggest you should start clean; Uninstall safestrap, Odin your phone back to stock ROM using PIT file. Now you should have a super clean phone. Record your storage space to see what's the total space, how much in used and how much free. At this point you should also take a look at app to SD, where all the new apps will be install to your external SDcard instead. From now on after you flash new rom or install safestrap, you should check your storage to have an idea what used up the space.
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Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
m4gkman said:
Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
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Do you have Windows? or just MAC?
buhohitr said:
Do you have Windows? or just MAC?
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I have a mac, running bootcamp with windows xp as well. But when i rooted this phone i used the mac method of safe root
m4gkman said:
I have a mac, running bootcamp with windows xp as well. But when i rooted this phone i used the mac method of safe root
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Ok, doesn't matter which one you pick, but just use Odin to flash stock rom with PIT file found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290859, this should put you back to factory and a super clean storage.
buhohitr said:
Ok, doesn't matter which one you pick, but just use Odin to flash stock rom with PIT file found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290859, this should put you back to factory and a super clean storage.
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unfortunately odin only works on windows, thats the only reason i have bootcamp hahaha. thanks for all your help. ill be back at my main computer on monday so Ill post after i give it a shot.
m4gkman said:
So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
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Why are you assuming that it's "hidden files"? It's probably just the bloated stock ROM.
A 16Gb GS4 with just the factory stuff will have at best 8Gb available - the OS and standard applications all use up that internal memory space.
(Just /system alone is 4.2 Gb on my phone, for example. Then there's the /data stuff, including the dalvik cache, etc.)
Re-flashing a full wipe ROM will maximize the available space, but it's never going to have 16 Gb free on a 16 Gb phone.
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m4gkman said:
Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
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If you have a Mac, you can use Heimdall to flash ROMs, including factory stock.
k1mu said:
Why are you assuming that it's "hidden files"? It's probably just the bloated stock ROM.
A 16Gb GS4 with just the factory stuff will have at best 8Gb available - the OS and standard applications all use up that internal memory space.
(Just /system alone is 4.2 Gb on my phone, for example. Then there's the /data stuff, including the dalvik cache, etc.)
Re-flashing a full wipe ROM will maximize the available space, but it's never going to have 16 Gb free on a 16 Gb phone.
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If you have a Mac, you can use Heimdall to flash ROMs, including factory stock.
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1) because everytime i clear a rom slot and make a new one in safe strap, i get less and less space. if you look at the images in the links i put up, you can see that there is a lot of Misc files in the system folder, and none of them can be seen. and it shows that even on the hyperdrive rom.
3) heimdall doesn't work for some reason on my computer, and because im on 4.3 already, i have to use safe strap and cant just flash roms
m4gkman said:
1) because everytime i clear a rom slot and make a new one in safe strap, i get less and less space. if you look at the images in the links i put up, you can see that there is a lot of Misc files in the system folder, and none of them can be seen. and it shows that even on the hyperdrive rom.
3) heimdall doesn't work for some reason on my computer, and because im on 4.3 already, i have to use safe strap and cant just flash roms
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I don't think this is a case of "Hidden files" - possibly something getting left behind after removing a Safestrap slot, but that's not proven.
You should install a program like "Disk Usage" from the play store. That will tell you where the space is being consumed on your internal storage. The "Miscellaneous files" entry doesn't give you the detail that you need to diagnose this.
I can't help you with Heimdall without knowing why it doesn't work.
buhohitr said:
Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone.
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That is not correct. On launch day (May 23rd) my S4 had 9.51gb free space before i put anything on it.
Eric214 said:
That is not correct. On launch day (May 23rd) my S4 had 9.51gb free space before i put anything on it.
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Well, I'm not exact on the number, but basically it took about +/- half of the total...) don't be too technical )

I Have 200MB STORAGE Left please PLEASE HELP Hyperdrive 14 Safestrap

I HAVE NO STORAGE LEFT PLEASE HELP Hyperdrive Safestrap
So I know . Im almost Postivite I did everything correct here but ill give the run down
Im on MK2
and Ive factory reset and unrooted multiple times to see what I did wrong
First I root my device
Then I install Safestrap I download the file to my SD card I believe and then just Install
Go to Recovery and change from stock and go to Creat in ROM 1
Move the MB to 3gb
Next I download my ROM to my sd card and Flash That
Then because I have to I download Kernel to SD card and FLASH that
Then REBOOT and is that all ?
I must be doing something wrong though because I have attached screenshots of everything that im seeing and SOMETHING IS WRONG
Give me a step by step or pm me or anything you have to and I will change whatever I must
What shows up when you hit misc. files?
This is what I see
Triscuit said:
What shows up when you hit misc. files?
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This is what I see . Anything else you need just tell me I really want to figure this out
Yea something isn't right. If I were you I would try to put a file that's bigger than what it's showing you have and see if it accepts it or not.
You need to flash the information while you're in the hyperdrive slot.
Assuming Safestrap 3.71:
When you create a ROM slot using Safestrap, it allocates a chunk of space from the internal memory on your phone.
It doesn't matter if you have 16 GB free on the stock ROM - when Safestrap allocates a rom slot, it's a fixed size and that's what you get.
(3 GB, if I remember correctly). If you install a big custom ROM, then start restoring a bunch of applications from the play store, you may run out of space in the slot. That's the way it works: you can't use the free space on the stock ROM to augment that - it's as big as it is when created.

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