Would a factory reset remove root?
My config:
Apollo, FireOS 14.3.2.3.2
Rootmethod: towelroot
factory reset on new rom slot after installed safestrap or factory reset on stock rom?
stapler85 said:
factory reset on new rom slot after installed safestrap or factory reset on stock rom?
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ROM Slot. The safestrap for 14.3.2.3.2 is in development and not existent as far as I know.
dimi5 said:
ROM Slot. The safestrap for 14.3.2.3.2 is in development and not existent as far as I know.
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Then no. changes on rom slots wont affect stock, which is where you shouldnt mess with
stapler85 said:
Then no. changes on rom slots wont affect stock, which is where you shouldnt mess with
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Soory stapler85. I'm posting bull****.
Again: I don't have safestrap, therefore, I've only the stock rom. However, at I'm going to do a factory reset in the near furutre, and was just curious, whether the device must be rooted afterthat or the factory reset would not affect the system apps/data.
Its funny when people post a question, get an answer, and then claim they dont like that answer.
Perhaps if you gave correct information you would get the answer related to what is going on. You said you were on a ROM slot, so factory reset of that slot will NOT make you lose root just like stappler85 said. Now you just said you are not on a slot but on regular stock, so yes a factory reset probably will make you lose root of your stock system.
If you think about it. You are going to root the stock rom anyway. Why not factory reset FIRST so you know it wont mess up. Then root and SS etc.
But im sure factory reset on rooted stock rom will mess some things up. This device seems unpredictable and probably amazon intention to deter messing around with.
EniGmA1987 said:
Its funny when people post a question, get an answer, and then claim they dont like that answer.
Perhaps if you gave correct information you would get the answer related to what is going on. You said you were on a ROM slot, so factory reset of that slot will NOT make you lose root just like stappler85 said. Now you just said you are not on a slot but on regular stock, so yes a factory reset probably will make you lose root of your stock system.
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If you read his post he explained that safe strap does not exist for his version of kindle. Therefore he did not receive an answer for his question and your entire post is in error, as well as utterly useless. As for this particular device I can't say but on MOST android devices I've owned root stays even after a factory reset. Must re flash or Un root on many of my other devices I've had to reset, just re downloaded supersu.
conan1600 said:
If you read his post he explained that safe strap does not exist for his version of kindle. Therefore he did not receive an answer for his question and your entire post is in error, as well as utterly useless. As for this particular device I can't say but on MOST android devices I've owned root stays even after a factory reset. Must re flash or Un root on many of my other devices I've had to reset, just re downloaded supersu.
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You should not lose root by doing a factory reset on a working system. You may however lose superuser app if you do not have it installed into system . Open superuser be sure binaries are updated scroll down in settings and be sure superuser is installed into system and you will be fine . To do a factory reset per security settings . Keep in mind if you want to do a reset it will wipe Sdcard and everything you have copied to tablet so backed them up onto your PC and put them back if you wish to keep it
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You should not lose root by doing a factory reset on a working system. You may however lose superuser app if you do not have it installed into system . Open superuser be sure binaries are updated scroll down in settings and be sure superuser is installed into system and you will be fine . To do a factory reset per security settings . Keep in mind if you want to do a reset it will wipe Sdcard and everything you have copied to tablet so backed them up onto your PC and put them back if you wish to keep it
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Thanks to all who are commenting on this post. I started a similar thread earlier because I didn't realize this one was asking a question similar to what I would like to better understand.
I rooted an HDX 7 running 13.3.2.2 using Towel root. All works well. I may sell this tablet in the very near future in order to upgrade to an 8.9 HDX. Is there a simple process for fully UN-rooting this tablet and resetting it back to stock as if it just came out of the box? I am not concerned with losing any personal data on the tablet.
I stress simple because my skills are limited and I do not want to risk bricking. If the risk is too high, I would rather sell it as rooted and erase all user data.
rootnooby said:
Thanks to all who are commenting on this post. I started a similar thread earlier because I didn't realize this one was asking a question similar to what I would like to better understand.
I rooted an HDX 7 running 13.3.2.2 using Towel root. All works well. I may sell this tablet in the very near future in order to upgrade to an 8.9 HDX. Is there a simple process for fully UN-rooting this tablet and resetting it back to stock as if it just came out of the box? I am not concerned with losing any personal data on the tablet.
I stress simple because my skills are limited and I do not want to risk bricking. If the risk is too high, I would rather sell it as rooted and erase all user data.
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Open su /setting/ full unroot/ bam
Security/ factory reset/bam
Love it! Thank you!
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I have an MK2 S4, rooted / safestrap / otherwise basically stock(no roms installed) that I am going to switch over to my wife and let her carry it.
Any suggestions on best way to wipe it and let her set it up with her accounts etc.
I would of course like to maintain root and safestrap.
shadowace said:
I have an MK2 S4, rooted / safestrap / otherwise basically stock(no roms installed) that I am going to switch over to my wife and let her carry it.
Any suggestions on best way to wipe it and let her set it up with her accounts etc.
I would of course like to maintain root and safestrap.
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Plain old, factory data reset (FDR).
It doesn't remove root.
tech_head said:
Plain old, factory data reset (FDR).
It doesn't remove root.
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I assumed as much, but for the life of couldn't clearly find it....
I grabbed a LG G2 to play around with for a bit until we get a better exploit (if)
Hi Guys,
i just got my HDX (7" - Thor) this week and was trying to get the Thor GAPPS ROM by Cpasjuste to work. Having found nothing specific for FireOS version 13.3.2.1 i went ahead and tried my luck with the "old" version of the ROM (thor-gapps-13.3.0.0-v2.zip).
Unfortunately i couldn't get it to work and am back to factory defaults. Which is good, since it's not a brick. So now i'm trying to play it safe and wait for the developer's magic to happen
i'm eager to play around with the device, but don't want to risk losing my chances of running a custom ROM in the future. i already own the first Kindle Fire and wouldn't want to miss the near stock Android on that.
So, finally, my question:
If i use the HDX Toolkit to root and disable OTA updates, i assume it will be safe to use the device until the bootloader gets unlocked or some other magic happens. Am i correct with this assumption?
Edit1 [2014-07-09 - 21:21]: sorry for the soonish edit, but i just prepared the device in case someone confirms, that it is more or less safe to use it with OTA disabled.
Upon disabling OTA, i get a few rows of "killed" messages in the HDX toolkit. When i first disabled OTA i saw that some services were being disabled or uninstalled. Is "killed" a confirmation that the components are already killed? i have already factory resetted, as i cannot find a way to do a full wipe. The result is the same.
Thanks in advance.
umm
kobayashimaru said:
Hi Guys,
i just got my HDX (7" - Thor) this week and was trying to get the Thor GAPPS ROM by Cpasjuste to work. Having found nothing specific for FireOS version 13.3.2.1 i went ahead and tried my luck with the "old" version of the ROM (thor-gapps-13.3.0.0-v2.zip).
Unfortunately i couldn't get it to work and am back to factory defaults. Which is good, since it's not a brick. So now i'm trying to play it safe and wait for the developer's magic to happen
i'm eager to play around with the device, but don't want to risk losing my chances of running a custom ROM in the future. i already own the first Kindle Fire and wouldn't want to miss the near stock Android on that.
So, finally, my question:
If i use the HDX Toolkit to root and disable OTA updates, i assume it will be safe to use the device until the bootloader gets unlocked or some other magic happens. Am i correct with this assumption?
Edit1 [2014-07-09 - 21:21]: sorry for the soonish edit, but i just prepared the device in case someone confirms, that it is more or less safe to use it with OTA disabled.
Upon disabling OTA, i get a few rows of "killed" messages in the HDX toolkit. When i first disabled OTA i saw that some services were being disabled or uninstalled. Is "killed" a confirmation that the components are already killed? i have already factory resetted, as i cannot find a way to do a full wipe. The result is the same.
Thanks in advance.
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Never factory reset stock slot if you have run the OTA blocker the utility also has a eNAble option for the OTA blocker always uninstall xposed framework and modules before factory reset also .. Always returning the unit to as close to factory as you can before doing a factory reset in factory recovery. Otherwise you risk breaking your device.. If you look around you will find ways to do a manual update to a slightly newer firmware just not the newest and your ROMs will work.
jimyv said:
Never factory reset stock slot if you have run the OTA blocker the utility also has a eNAble option for the OTA blocker always uninstall xposed framework and modules before factory reset also .. Always returning the unit to as close to factory as you can before doing a factory reset in factory recovery. Otherwise you risk breaking your device.. If you look around you will find ways to do a manual update to a slightly newer firmware just not the newest and your ROMs will work.
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Thanks. i will look for the update method you mentioned. i might have already read it on Friday, but didn't think it would apply to my version.
i have removed everything related to modding before factory resetting from the FireOS settings. At that point, there was only safestrap left, which i uninstalled.
If i decided to stay on FireOS after all, until a better method comes up, is there a way for me to check, if the OTA blocker is actually working?
lol
kobayashimaru said:
Thanks. i will look for the update method you mentioned. i might have already read it on Friday, but didn't think it would apply to my version.
i have removed everything related to modding before factory resetting from the FireOS settings. At that point, there was only safestrap left, which i uninstalled.
If i decided to stay on FireOS after all, until a better method comes up, is there a way for me to check, if the OTA blocker is actually working?
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It works. Just open settings go device,system updates ,check for updates, should fail immediately..if it stars to dl. kill wifi
jimyv said:
It works. Just open settings go device,system updates ,check for updates, should fail immediately..if it stars to dl. kill wifi
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Thanks, i'm always scared with such new devices.
"Update failed". Perfect.
i got the Thor GAPPS working by now, so i'll try using that for now.
Hi all,
Have a new Kindle HDX 7 13.3.1.0 and have rooted with KFHDX ToolKit v0.94 and installed SU and blocked the OTA updates. Also have installed ES3 file manager and Titanium Backup Pro. I have not installed Safestrap (yet) as I need to read more before that happens, if it ever does.
So, here's my issue---when I select setting/device/storage, the storage screen only appears for about 1/2 second and then reverts to the previous device screen. I know this was working before, so it's something I did inadvertently, or maybe a file corruption? All else on the tablet works fine and I have Google Play installed thanks to the forum here.
I'm thinking a factory reset will cure this, but not sure. Before I do a reset (a last resort) I thought I should seek the advice from the experts here just in case a file replacement or something else could be tried.
Thanks in advance--this is a great forum!
touchy
kico42 said:
Hi all,
Have a new Kindle HDX 7 13.3.1.0 and have rooted with KFHDX ToolKit v0.94 and installed SU and blocked the OTA updates. Also have installed ES3 file manager and Titanium Backup Pro. I have not installed Safestrap (yet) as I need to read more before that happens, if it ever does.
So, here's my issue---when I select setting/device/storage, the storage screen only appears for about 1/2 second and then reverts to the previous device screen. I know this was working before, so it's something I did inadvertently, or maybe a file corruption? All else on the tablet works fine and I have Google Play installed thanks to the forum here.
I'm thinking a factory reset will cure this, but not sure. Before I do a reset (a last resort) I thought I should seek the advice from the experts here just in case a file replacement or something else could be tried.
Thanks in advance--this is a great forum!
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This device is very fickle with behaviour after reset. I advise if you need to do a factory reset then to undo your OTA block from the toolkit uninstall the and Xposed framework ,and make sure supersu is installed into system via supersu apps settings. And the binary has been updated if needed
jimyv said:
This device is very fickle with behaviour after reset. I advise if you need to do a factory reset then to undo your OTA block from the toolkit uninstall the and Xposed framework ,and make sure supersu is installed into system via supersu apps settings. And the binary has been updated if needed
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jimyv,
Thanks for the reply...I will heed your advice if I decide to do a reset. Not sure what you mean "very fickle with behavior after reset". Do you mean a reset does not always work with the HDX?
Pretty new at this and am trying to read and understand as much as I can so I don't make any stupid moves.
kico42 said:
jimyv,
Thanks for the reply...I will heed your advice if I decide to do a reset. Not sure what you mean "very fickle with behavior after reset". Do you mean a reset does not always work with the HDX?
Pretty new at this and am trying to read and understand as much as I can so I don't make any stupid moves.
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I just mean make sure you undo your modifications before you do a reset otherwise to reset may screw you all up
Is there any reason I shouldn't use the factory data reset in settings, after using Stump Root, to restore to factory? Is there even a need to unroot before data reset? It's not soft bricked, everything works fine and I don't really want to use the LG Flash Tool if it's not needed. Thank you in advance.
You can factory reset without issue, but stump makes changes to the system and a factory reset doesn't do anything to the system.
Stump will not work again until you use flashtool to restore.
Will32 said:
You can factory reset without issue, but stump makes changes to the system and a factory reset doesn't do anything to the system.
Stump will not work again until you use flashtool to restore.
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So it will boot up like normal after a full reset? I rooted and now decided to sell it and keep my S5 till the Note 4 comes out.
gottria said:
So it will boot up like normal after a full reset? I rooted and now decided to sell it and keep my S5 till the Note 4 comes out.
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Yes, but the system partition will still be somehow modified from stock. Even if you use the unroot option in SuperSU.
It would probably work fine, mine did, but some apps might not work such as some banking apps that check for root modification.
I suggest you do the buyer a favor and use flashtool to completely restore. Plus, as stated before, stump will not work again until it's been fully restored with flashtool. So in the case your buyer wants to root, you could save them a headache by restoring before you sell.
Will32 said:
Yes, but the system partition will still be somehow modified from stock. Even if you use the unroot option in SuperSU.
It would probably work fine, mine did, but some apps might not work such as some banking apps that check for root modification.
I suggest you do the buyer a favor and use flashtool to completely restore. Plus, as stated before, stump will not work again until it's been fully restored with flashtool. So in the case your buyer wants to root, you could save them a headache by restoring before you sell.
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Couldn't I just leave it rooted and delete all my accounts and apps? Not sure what is left behind.
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gottria said:
Couldn't I just leave it rooted and delete all my accounts and apps? Not sure what is left behind.
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Screw it, just ran the flash tool and worked first time out. Back to stock and off it goes. Gonna miss this phone but need to make room, and funds for the Note 4. Thanks guys.
I had to factory reset from stock recovery and I just re-installed SuperSU, double checked with Rootchecker and all is good still. Unless something creeps up later..
Hello,
I'd like to upgrade to something more current than my 4.3 JB. Only, I'm concerned with losing my apps data and phone data. I used Odin one click root with no data loss. Now I'm wondering how the heck do I upgrade. Do I have to unroot to a stock mj4 first, then upgrade either ota or by myself to the highest version or since I'm rooted and running on twrp, can I upgrade with the most current or at least NC5 4.4? All the while, not having to reinstall my apps like before or any data loss?
My applogies ahead of time on not knowing the correct terms or procedures on what direction is the correct one to take in steps.
Thanks.
First you need to consider if you upgrade to NC5 or higher that installs Knox. Second has your trip counter been tripped to 1x0 ? You can root NC5 with Towel root and not trip Knox counter. But if upgrade higher than NC5 there is nothing that you root with that will not trip Knox counter. To save your data and apps you can attempt a "dirty flash" . This is done by finding a flash able version of NC5 in a zip file that you place on your sd card flash through twrp recovery, while in recovery you wipe caches and system, but not data.
However the odds of something being corrupted are high. The best way is to save all your data to your desktop and install back on the device after you are done flashing. Just click on rom flashing basics in my signature all info and links you need are there. Or you can find it on page 3 in General section.
I've got knox on 4.3.. and it's tripped any how. I don't care about the warranty, it's two years old. Hasn't got any left. hahahah. I'm more concerned with having to redo all the settings, my apps, work apps detailed things I really don't want to reset if I can help it (more so I can't remember all of it). I'm not sure how they did it before under the "one click no data loss" root. Wish there was a concise method, centralized that specifially says, hey if you used this, and want to do it like this, this and this, to save date, you do this and presto. hahah.
To be honest, I'm not sure what direction to take to even begin with. I'm rooted and what's the best way to update from there. I read your page, but it doesn't tell me what to do from being already rooted standpoint. Also it starts off as if you're on 4.4.4. I'm still on 4.3 MJ4. lol
Real quick, you mentioned to wipe the cache and system but not data. For obvious reasons, but could you explain what the three portions contain, reason being so I can wrap my mind around it to better understand why this, but not that.
Thank you for your quick response. Hope I can do this today if I'm lucky to get it right.
Ok so have a device that is rooted running mj4. To upgrade to 4.4.4 NC5 you need to find a copy of NC5 thats already rooted and in a flashable zip file. Than copy and paste the zip file to your sd card, and boot into your recovery. Now wipe cache, dalvik-cache, and system but do not wipe the data. This will install the new OS and keep your device rooted and save your data. This is commonly known as a dirty flash, most of the time it works. But sometimes it doesn't hence the term dirty flash.
The cache is a log of the OS running if there is an error or crash developers can review it and see what happened and fix it.
A dalvik-cache is data from your apps as they are loaded into the OS when they are opened or started up. The dalvik-cache stores this start up data that is repeated every time the application starts. Then uses it to make the app start up or open faster.
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Ok so have a device that is rooted running mj4. To upgrade to 4.4.4 NC5 you need to find a copy of NC5 thats already rooted and in a flashable zip file. Than copy and paste the zip file to your sd card, and boot into your recovery. Now wipe cache, dalvik-cache, and system but do not wipe the data. This will install the new OS and keep your device rootef and save your data.
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Do you recommend any link for the file? And does it matter if I use a newer version, suppose it's a matter of finding it like you said?
I see many different types out there, trying to match to my phone and I see odex, dodex and different things, I'm not sure what to use. :/
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Do you recommend any link for the file? And does it matter if I use a newer version, suppose it's a matter of finding it like you said?
I see many different types out there, trying to match to my phone and I see odex, dodex and different things, I'm not sure what to use. :/
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Let see if I can find the right link for NC5
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Let see if I can find the right link for NC5
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I found this, but unsure if it's the correct one.
N900PVPUCNC5_N900PSPTCNC5_N900PVPUCNC5_HOME.tar
rcflyer40t said:
I found this, but unsure if it's the correct one.
N900PVPUCNC5_N900PSPTCNC5_N900PVPUCNC5_HOME.tar
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That one is flashable with Odin only. It would work but it would take you back to bone stock NC5 with no root and you would lose all your data. Think of it as buying a new phone and starting from scratch. I found one to but the download link is broken. Most of the guys here have updated to OC5 5.1 of course l'm still running my 4.4.4 NK4 deodexed debloated rom it's smooth and bulletproof.
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That one is flashable with Odin only. It would work but it would take you back to bone stock NC5 with no root and you would lose all your data. Think of it as buying a new phone and starting from scratch. I found one to but the download link is broken. Most of the guys here have updated to OC5 5.1 of course l'm still running my 4.4.4 NK4 deodexed debloated rom it's smooth and bulletproof.
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ah, gotcha. I read also about battery life kind of sucking... How's yours running? Is there any benefit to updating higher? And, say I did 4.4.4, if I wanted to go up, would it be the same way, find a rooted flashable version and boot recovery?
Thank you for your help, really do appreciate when someone takes the time to help someone less knowledgeable.
I've been searching but still haven't found one. Anything in particular you can recommend I add to my search? you're right, some of the links no longer work. Any luck on your end?