I, for one, am kind of upset that we don't at least have coreutils by default on Android, especially on awesome ROMs like CyanogenMod. Can anyone attribute a rhyme or reason for this, other than "it came that way and we didn't want to package coreutils?" We're certainly not lacking the 2MB required by coreutils, but I suppose this is more of a rant than anything.
Getting to the actual point: has anyone tried compiling OpenSSH Client for Android? I'm specifically looking for the ssh-agent and the ssh client itself, as Dorpbear (sorry, Dropbear) doesn't seem to provide agent forwarding and is incredulously annoying and won't let me do my work.
How does one begin tinkering with compiling a software project for Android? I'd be happy just statically-linking the thing and adb pushing it to /system/bin. Any guides available on getting started?
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If anyone is familiar with Speccy for the PC they know more or less what I am looking for.
I am looking for an app that does a thorough audit of a phone (Android platform) but not only displays it on the phone (plenty of apps do that). Id want it to export the audit to a file that can then be opened on a desktop application with a easier to navigate and study interface.
Currently like I said there is a number of applications that can do part of this as an added feature, but I have not seen any dedicated app to do an audit of the phone, things from programs, spaced used, network, hardware, permissions for particular programs, etc. Id like it to be as thorough as possible, but to be viewable in a reasonably ok interface on a desktop.
Browser maybe preferably for the linux and iOS users so that it isn't tied down to one Operating system.
Any ideas of something like this, or anyone working on something similar?
sorry for reviving this thread but I'm interested as well.
Hello All,
My question is whether the reverse-engineering of iOS's API is being looked at as an option any time soon. I would be interested in something similar to Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator), which is a reverse engineering of the Win32API and allows you to run Windows .exe files natively in Linux or Mac OS. I am aware of iEmu (and it's unfortunate suspension).
However, my interest is not in getting iOS itself running on my phone, but instead I would like to run the apps themselves. I'm pretty sure there isn't currently a project on this. If there is, can you inform me of it?
If there is not, I would like to discuss the difficulty of implementing this. I could definitely be an aid in starting a project of ths nature.
Here are some things about iOS's apps I am unfamiliar with (I am aware that this specific section of the post may be more fit for the iOS forum):
Does the Obj-C code compiled for iOS resemble native ARM code (the iPhone chips are ARM to the best of my knowledge), like how C++ would be compiled, or does it resemble something more like C# or Java, compiled into bytecode that is executed by a library?
Compared to the size of the .NET framework or Win32API, how big is the iOS library?
Has a successful program been created that can run Obj-C code?
Would this have to be worked from the ground up (figuring out how Obj-C compiles in the first place), or has there been some effort already mounted similar to this?
I am aware of the extreme difficulty in implementing this. However, I'm sure this was thought while planning Wine or Mono. I'm not even suggesting this be made, but I'm simply asking on your opinion on the general difficulty (can it be done).
Thank you,
- κυριακος
kupiakos42 said:
Hello All,
My question is whether the reverse-engineering of iOS's API is being looked at as an option any time soon. I would be interested in something similar to Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator), which is a reverse engineering of the Win32API and allows you to run Windows .exe files natively in Linux or Mac OS. I am aware of iEmu (and it's unfortunate suspension).
However, my interest is not in getting iOS itself running on my phone, but instead I would like to run the apps themselves. I'm pretty sure there isn't currently a project on this. If there is, can you inform me of it?
If there is not, I would like to discuss the difficulty of implementing this. I could definitely be an aid in starting a project of ths nature.
Here are some things about iOS's apps I am unfamiliar with (I am aware that this specific section of the post may be more fit for the iOS forum):
Does the Obj-C code compiled for iOS resemble native ARM code (the iPhone chips are ARM to the best of my knowledge), like how C++ would be compiled, or does it resemble something more like C# or Java, compiled into bytecode that is executed by a library?
Compared to the size of the .NET framework or Win32API, how big is the iOS library?
Has a successful program been created that can run Obj-C code?
Would this have to be worked from the ground up (figuring out how Obj-C compiles in the first place), or has there been some effort already mounted similar to this?
I am aware of the extreme difficulty in implementing this. However, I'm sure this was thought while planning Wine or Mono. I'm not even suggesting this be made, but I'm simply asking on your opinion on the general difficulty (can it be done).
Thank you,
- κυριακος
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Hey and welcome to the forum's I would like to know this as well but I do not know any project and any that gets started and gains popularity gets chased down by Apple's legal team quite quickly. I have my doubts that this could happen (I would be glad if someone could prove me wrong) because iOS and its apps work on 12 devices and Android has hundreds of devices, most with different hardware. Windows apps are built for variable hardware, likewise with Linux and now Mac OS X. Sorry but as much of a pessimist as I seem I do not think it's possible but I'd love to be proven wrong. (Can someone at least make a frigging Windows Mobile runtime)
Hi all
Does anyone know if I can run kde-based software on the developer alpha of Ubuntu for tablets yet please? Not expecting reliability, just want to do some child user testing of the edubuntu suite on tablets.
Thanks
Chris
Currently you can't and probably neither in the near futur 'cause you need an X Server for that.
And there is no X server on ubuntu touch.
Huge thanks, that is really useful
Hempe said:
Currently you can't and probably neither in the near futur 'cause you need an X Server for that.
And there is no X server on ubuntu touch.
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After some research on your reply I've a couple questions. Does it mean the Unity interface doesn't need X-server? Or are they just using a temporary workaround until X-server is implemented?
And does this apply to both Ubuntu for Android, and Ubuntu for tablets?
Huge thanks
Having done some further research I've made my decision - thanks hugely for providing the missing link in my knowledge. What follows is my best interpretation of the rumours.
Currently in place of X-server is SurfaceFlinger, ("because X-server uses 30 yr old code" - Canonical). Canonical publicly dabbled with using Wayland until mid-Feb, then decided to create their own revamped display server from scratch, called Mir, which they seem to have been working on since mid last year, and are trying to get GPU vendors to support, written to run across all devices and to meet the needs of the Unity interface, and written in Qt/QML which is what they want native apps written in.
Bottom line for me, is that the technology is still right up there in the clouds and nowhere near decided enough to base my business strategy on. Also, Ubuntu for tablets seems a pretty thin version of Ubuntu anyway, so Edubuntu was never an option and I'm unlikely to be able to leverage much from Ubuntu's Open Source libraries anyway.
Like others, (see the comment on jonobacon.org below), I find it frustrating that the wealth of code written for Ubuntu is no longer usable, but I reckon this is probably necessary to squeeze the most out of every single CPU cycle and milliamp. Ubuntu for tablet is dead in the water if it kills the battery and performs worse than the established competitors.
Therefore all indications are I need to write for Android, keeping my options as open as possible to migrate. So it is now Titanium/UnityIDE versus HTML5, particularly assessing relative performance.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/canonical-announce-custom-display-server-mir-not-wayland-not-x
http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/02/21/five-ubuntu-touch-facts/ -- not the article but the comment starting "In that case, wouldn't it be better to port existing apps instead of...."
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/canonical-working-on-new-display-server
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMwOTM
Just to clarify.
1. There are plans to make a X-Mir compatibility layer that will allow you to run programs that require an X-Server to work with mir.
2. Not all is lost at the moment it just looks that way.
Only Graphical Userinterfaces are affected. Your commandline tools and libraries don't need to be changed.
3. If you are looking for platform to write apps for, well there is worke being done to let you run your QML apps (intended for ubuntu touch) on android.
So if you choose to make QML apps they can be or will be able to run on linux, mac, windows and android
Wow, huge thanks, I missed that.
Does this mean EVERYTHING Ubuntu without a GUI will work? I want to run a NodeJS server. How likely is it that it will work perfectly now? How likely is it that it will work perfectly in the (nominally October 2013) release? (Sorry, just give me a keyword and I'll go off and do my research.)
Is Canonical planning to get X-Mir into the next ~Oct release?
My other query was whether QML on Android would perform as well. For others interested, it looks like it works directly with the Android SurfaceFlinger, bypassing the Dalvik VM, so performance should compare with native Java code.
Huge thanks once again
Chris
Sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEkubKZaUt8
http://victorpalau.net/2013/01/25/ubuntu-qml-todo-android-vs-ubuntu/
Disclaimer: Their may be some native apps using Googles API for this but I needed a real IRC server... In the sense I can see the source code. Since my purpose was to deploy a network.
Hi I spent a long time reading about how to get an IRC server on my android so people could talk inside my pocket. So long that I realised it would be easier to just cross compile it for myself. However I ran into a kid under the alias of "CoreDuo" who had already done this for us!!! He cross compiled the UnrealIrcd server for many different phones! Armv7's included!
All you need to do first is install linux either nativly or chrooted on your android. I chose Backtrack5 and recommend it because it comes with an Apache server preconfigured that works out of the box. Plus lots of other goodies for hackers and coders alike.
Ok here is the link you need: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...e.uk/category/unrealircd/+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk
For example since I was installing on the MB860 and since that has an ARMv7 processor I used this link: http://dl.coreduo.me.uk/unreal-arm7-palm.tar.gz
Good luck and if you need anyhelp email me at [email protected]
As a guy with half a dozen Raspberry Pi's around the house, not to mention other devices, I'm getting totally fed up with Android not supporting mDNS.
So I had a simple idea of how to hack support pretty easily. Basically, an app that browses for avahi/bonjour/zeroconf/mdns (we already have dozens of these), with the tiny additional feature that it'd update /etc/hosts with all discovered hosts.
It's crude, but at least I could have all my devices' ssh/vnc/ftp/mpd/etc services saved as bookmarks ONCE instead of copy/pasting IP addresses like an idiot every time something happens to have rebooted or whatever.
So before I start learning android development just for this one feature, my question is if anyone has already done this?