Hi all! I'm looking at getting on Verizon with their One Max. I understand that in order to get permanent root or unlocked bootloader you need s-off first with this variant. I also understand that the latest software for the VZW model is build 2.16.605.2 with hboot 2.49. What I'd like to know is, has anybody had any success getting s-off using the method with weaksauce and firewater with this firmware and hboot without already being rooted/unlocked? Or any other method? I'd appreciate your input. Thanks!
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If I understand you correctly you need those 2 methods to get rooted / unlocked if your on build 2.16 hoot 2.49 ..I mean theres other Ways if you didn't take the ota or if your phone came with a older build but for latest Verizon build that's the only way I know of ..
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Okay, thanks. I was having trouble finding info about the 2.16 build and just wanted to make sure that method worked. My phone gets here soon and I want to root it right away.
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Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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lojak29 said:
Just wanted some Insight
I got a new but preowned one from a guy he mentioned that it got s update ..some update recently for the software that patches the ability to soff .
What did this update supposedly fix or add?
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I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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S-off lets us convert to the full GPE version and get ota. I hope devs find a way of getting s-off on 531.11
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Htein said:
I am guessing it is for Tmobile?
I have that same version.
It disables revone or moonshine for working so essentially s-off.
I was able to still unlock the bootloader via HTCDev and root using TWRP and SuperSU.
Not really sure what s-off does, since I am able to load custom roms and etc. with current setup anyways....
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s-off is security check off. it stops the bootloader from checking for signatures pretty much letting you flash Whatever aslong as the recovery accepts it. can also turn off the recoveries signature check but thats alot easier to do as the recovery alows you to do so freely.
And anyone wouldnt happen to know more info on this would they. as ive noticed sense i did the manual OTA update via HTC's site, regaining s-off is proving to be imensley didficult. "i s-on'd whiel debugging things and regret it lol"
From what I have been able to gather the updated 1.44 or 1.54 cannot be s-offed using revone or moonshine currently.
I'm pretty happy right now, all I care about is GPe 4.3 anyways. Running of 4.3 ROM, firmware, and radio with just unlocked boot loader
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I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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Sorry dude, pretty much screwed until they find a work around for the .11 update. I made the mistake of accidentally S-On and forgetting to lock instead of relocking my bootloader (wanted to return for warranty purposes). After that I've tried pretty much everything from downgrading to the stock ROM using customs ROMS trying to edit RUU's to work with my phone (Do not try this, easiest way to brick your very expensive phone) Nothing works as of now, Htc and t-mobile screwed us by not giving us the Stock RUU they knew what they were doing. But yes you have to wait.
*NOTE* On the otherhand i did learn that i didn't need to lock my bootloader to return it for warranty purposes the guy at the t-mobile store replaced it right there for me no questions asked. But the replacement i got came with the updated .11 ROM which means no S-Off for me still.
Damn. That's what I was afraid of. I just kept reading that as long as you had 1.44 h-boot it was still possible, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Well thanks anyway for responding.
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Wait I thought you could s-off with that hboot i thought 5xxx was unable to s-off
You can s-off hboot 1.44 as long as you haven't taken the latest tmobile ota or used the tmobile ruu, they patched whatever it was that allowed us to s-off in the latest version
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Can we downgrade?
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
Tylormde said:
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582&page=469
Lots of info there. Some of it conflicting but in a nutshell, no if you've taken the .11 update from T-Mobile.
i would wait till revone or moonshine get a fix on it.
Or go the HTC dev way
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If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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I have tried this and was unsuccessful. Luckily I was able to run the RUU and it was fine again but it won't achieve S-OFF
You can downgrade from .11 to .8 using a custom ruu. Google " downgrade from .11 to .8 rootzwiki" and you'll find it.
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Ok guys not to sound stupid but I've rooted plenty of phones and have had pretty much every top tier phone. I've rooted all my android phones. I just don't understand the s-off portion of it all. I have s-off and currently rooted. What advantage do I have over someone that doesn't have s-off? I got my one already rooted so I never went through the process. I guess that's why I'm confused. I'm used to Samsung phones.
When the update comes next week should i just wait for a rooted version of it? I'm assuming so.
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S-OFF basically allows you to do 2 main things you couldn't otherwise pertaining to Roms and such:
1- flash unsigned RUUs. You can flash custom firmware that don't belong to your device. IE: you can flash the newest 4.3 firmware prior to 4.3 releasing for the T-Mobile One.
2: get yourself out of a jam. Here's a great example. Let's say you flashed the stock GPE recovery and ROM. Your S-ON. You wanted the full GPE experience. Your phone took the newest update. It will flash 1.54 Hboot and update the boot loader to the black GPE version although you are S-ON and not running the GPE device. Without S-ON your SOL if you needed to go back to stock for whatever reason because the HBoot can't be rolled back on S-ON.
Its a good protection to have in your back pocket IMO
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So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
zaos said:
So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
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No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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grim489 said:
No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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I'm thinking:
Full backup with twrp
Flash ruu
Restore backup with twrp
Apply WWE update
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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grim489 said:
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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Thanks. It does seem a bit like voodoo magic but I want to avoid any possible issues that people in the radio only thread have reported.
use rumrunner to achirve s-off. thats the only way then use revone to reset tamper
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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use rumrunner to achieve s-off then use revone to reset tampered flag on your bootloader.
My question is since all variants of the HTC One Max have received it's KitKat update I was wondering if everyone here has remained on the 2.49 hboot?
Also wondering since I'm on Verizon and my software version has gone from 1.11.605.4 to 2.16.605.2 with both firmware version using the 2.49 hboot if it was at all possible if I'm currently s-off and unlocked if I can flash Santods "no red text" 1.11.605.4 2.49 hboot to get rid of that annoying disclaimer about "this build is for development purposes only blah blah blah yada yada yada lol...
Has anyone tried this yet??
I don't want to be the first try and brick over something so stupid.
I went ahead and PM'ed Santod but I haven't received a response back from him yet.. I asked beaups as well and he said he wasn't sure what the out come of that would be.....
Again I don't want to be the first to try lol... I thought though since we are s-off and unlocked that we were able to swap hboots with no issue so long as the hboot is for the device you are using and not from another....
Any insight would be appreciated, and how is everyone liking official KItKat? What have you done with the update?? I'm using Xposed with the official KK update and it's def a little more functional on KK opposed to JB.. We can now actually enable navbar where as in stock JB it wouldn't work.... Thanks guys and gals, looking forward to hearing from everyone!!!!!
Yes I flashed it and im good
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So to clarify you are on KitKat and used the Jelly Bean 2.49 hboot and had no problems??
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Yes I flashed it and im good
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I can only answer your "no red text" answer and that is I've took the update but I was S-on thought I was stuck but used the weaksauce method and gain s-off again unlocked rooted and yes I flashed the no red text with no problems and I'm on the new update with the new bootloader / HBoot
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Hello, I previously had a HTC ONE m7 and understood it all In regards to rooting and s-off. It's just ideally I would hope to use the Firewater temp root to gain s-off and unlock boot loader that way instead of using htcdev. I have my htc one max on 4.3 still with hboot 2.47 I think it is. Can it be done has any one managed to do it this way? Also will my fingerprint scanner work doing it that way? And lastly while using my HTC ONE m7 there were simple guides ruu's etc to return to stock. How easy is it with the HTC ONE max? Thanks
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nathlynn22 said:
Hello, I previously had a HTC ONE m7 and understood it all In regards to rooting and s-off. It's just ideally I would hope to use the Firewater temp root to gain s-off and unlock boot loader that way instead of using htcdev. I have my htc one max on 4.3 still with hboot 2.47 I think it is. Can it be done has any one managed to do it this way? Also will my fingerprint scanner work doing it that way? And lastly while using my HTC ONE m7 there were simple guides ruu's etc to return to stock. How easy is it with the HTC ONE max? Thanks
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Don't worry about RUU's for now and just get s-off before doing the software update, you might not be able to get s-off with later versions of bootloader.
All other processes are the same.
pradeepvizz said:
Don't worry about RUU's for now and just get s-off before doing the software update, you might not be able to get s-off with later versions of bootloader.
All other processes are the same.
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Thanks for the reply I have been reading your thread you have for firewater. Is it a case of just trying temp root and see how it goes I haven't updated phone for couple months now keep cancelling it just I want root s off etc but keep reading about Unsecure kernels for rooting and never had that on HTC one m7 abit confused thanks
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Thanks for the reply I have been reading your thread you have for firewater. Is it a case of just trying temp root and see how it goes I haven't updated phone for couple months now keep cancelling it just I want root s off etc but keep reading about Unsecure kernels for rooting and never had that on HTC one m7 abit confused thanks
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Temp root or perm root, does not make a big difference. so if you have full root already you can directly go ahead to do the actual s-off.
If i remember correctly i did s-off when there was no unsecure kernels/ROM's in the forum, do post your results we would be able to sort it out.
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Temp root or perm root, does not make a big difference. so if you have full root already you can directly go ahead to do the actual s-off.
If i remember correctly i did s-off when there was no unsecure kernels/ROM's in the forum, do post your results we would be able to sort it out.
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I currently don't have any type of root but I will look at trying temp root then s-off with firewater tomorrow I think.
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Hi ...
I have HTC One Max Verizon:
Bootloader Locked and S-ON
Hboot 2.49.0000
Radio-1.36.60.0520
Android 4.4.2
HTC Sense 6.0
All I want is to enable Hotspot and tethering by anymeans (rooting or not) , also I like to upgrade my android
A RUU rom would be perfect and easy for me
Thanks alot (you are always being helpfull) .
Anybody can help ...
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Anybody can help ...
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Verizon One Max never got lollipop. You are stuck on KitKat 4.4.2. Since you are S-ON, the only way to tether is to get a plan from Verizon. If you want to freely tether, you need to root using sushine s-off. $25
Flyhalf205 said:
Verizon One Max never got lollipop. You are stuck on KitKat 4.4.2. Since you are S-ON, the only way to tether is to get a plan from Verizon. If you want to freely tether, you need to root using sushine s-off. $25
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I used sunshine but have no root how do I achieve root please any advice would be greatly appreciated
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aaronrw said:
I used sunshine but have no root how do I achieve root please any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Flash twrp and flash a rom. I see you already got it working though.
Would a RUU rom root the device for me, or what it would do ?
sorry I am a bit ignorant in that field
get your bootloader unlocked go s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-max/help/qa-s-off-root-htc-one-max-t2914903
nusensesix is a great working lollipop rom after you get unlocked