No reactivation lock for T-mobile s5? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5

I can't find it anywhere in the settings. Is this a T-Mobile only thing? I'm fairly certain the AT&T and Verizon version have this feature.

seh6183 said:
I can't find it anywhere in the settings. Is this a T-Mobile only thing? I'm fairly certain the AT&T and Verizon version have this feature.
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Only Verizon and US cellular.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-and-U.S.-Cellular-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id54826
EDIT: you can enable it if you're rooted by editing a file in the system/csc folder.

aooga said:
Only Verizon and US cellular.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-and-U.S.-Cellular-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id54826
EDIT: you can enable it if you're rooted by editing a file in the system/csc folder.
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Thank you for this but I went through every file in there and couldn't find anything for reactivation lock. I was however, able to enable the change sim notification. Any idea what file it is in?

seh6183 said:
Thank you for this but I went through every file in there and couldn't find anything for reactivation lock. I was however, able to enable the change sim notification. Any idea what file it is in?
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Try system/CSC/features.xml EDIT: This might not be what you're looking for, but it's something. Sorry I guess I was wrong in saying that it can be enabled by a csc edit.
Change it to this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Then reboot and you should get this I security.

I did that and got the menus enabled now. But that still isn't reactivation lock. I can't find the setting for reactivation lock.

seh6183 said:
I did that and got the menus enabled now. But that still isn't reactivation lock. I can't find the setting for reactivation lock.
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It might not be toggled by a csc edit then. Why do you want it in the first place?

aooga said:
It might not be toggled by a csc edit then. Why do you want it in the first place?
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Well because it's a huge deal in my opinion. If someone steals my phone they can't get back into it even if they wipe it.

seh6183 said:
Well because it's a huge deal in my opinion. If someone steals my phone they can't get back into it even if they wipe it.
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If they know how to root it, they can in 2 minutes. Just boot into the bootloader, flash a custom recovery, flash a custom rom, and presto, you're in. If you're already rooted, well, that just makes it laughably easy. Apple's approach is the only really secure one.

I think assuming that a thief would have any understanding of rooting or flashing custom bootloaders would be a little over the top. Out of every single human being that I know only 2 know how to root a phone.

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fffft said:
I'm thinking that the part in bold could be your snag.
Seriously though, some carriers are enabling this and some are not. A serious flaw as universal availability of the feature would make it infinitely more effective.
You can enable it yourself by availing yourself to a custom ROM or by editing the properties XML. Once enabled, the menu shows up under Settings > General > Security
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Damn what setting in the XML did you adjust? I was able to enable find my mobile and sim change notify but not the reactivation.
And lol yea maybe I should try this on an actual s5 and not my iPhone

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seh6183 said:
I think assuming that a thief would have any understanding of rooting or flashing custom bootloaders would be a little over the top. Out of every single human being that I know only 2 know how to root a phone.
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This misses an important point. It doesn't matter a lot how many people in the general populace know how to root a phone in front of them. If a security feature like reactivation lock is to be a strong deterrent to theft, it needs to be highly secure where no one or damn near no one is able to defeat it. It's not sufficient that it's hard to do. It only takes one electronic wiz in a city who is willing to unlock phones of shady origin to establish a strong local demand for stolen phones.
A thief doesn't need to have any technical skills. Word will quickly get around about the shady repair shop or fence that can fix them or is willing to buy stolen phones because he knows where they can be unlocked. For this to work as an effective deterrent, stolen phones need to be rendered paperweights that cannot be unlocked without heroic measures.
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fffft said:
This misses an important point. It doesn't matter a lot how many people in the general populace know how to root a phone in front of them. If a security feature like reactivation lock is to be a strong deterrent to theft, it needs to be highly secure where no one or damn near no one is able to defeat it. It's not sufficient that it's hard to do. It only takes one electronic wiz in a city who is willing to unlock phones of shady origin to establish a strong local demand for stolen phones.
A thief doesn't need to have any technical skills. Word will quickly get around about the shady repair shop or fence that can fix them or is willing to buy stolen phones because he knows where they can be unlocked. For this to work as an effective deterrent, stolen phones need to be rendered paperweights that cannot be unlocked without heroic measures.
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:good:
All it takes is them googling "how to bypass samsung activation lock" and they're in. Probably shouldn't have put this up

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fffft said:
This misses an important point. It doesn't matter a lot how many people in the general populace know how to root a phone in front of them. If a security feature like reactivation lock is to be a strong deterrent to theft, it needs to be highly secure where no one or damn near no one is able to defeat it. It's not sufficient that it's hard to do. It only takes one electronic wiz in a city who is willing to unlock phones of shady origin to establish a strong local demand for stolen phones.
A thief doesn't need to have any technical skills. Word will quickly get around about the shady repair shop or fence that can fix them or is willing to buy stolen phones because he knows where they can be unlocked. For this to work as an effective deterrent, stolen phones need to be rendered paperweights that cannot be unlocked without heroic measures.
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Okay and for the dozens of other samsung phones that have locked bootloaders it works perfectly fine for. So the only exploitable phones are ones with unlockable bootloaders. The rest are safe,

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fffft said:
Uh no, Or at least you don't provide any evidence to support that thesis. The exploit that I've seen does not depend on the bootloader.
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And how exactly will you flash a custom recovery without unlocking the bootloader?

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fffft said:
Sigh. One, you seem a bit off topic. And two, I am not going to post an explanation of how to defeat a core security feature. If you have a lot of curiosity you will have to do your own search. And I'd hope that you'd refrain from reposting that kind of information too.
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You know what I don't care, I can't even believe I was baited into this useless argument. The fact remains is that the feature is at least semi functional and a DETERRENT to criminals. Nothing is fool proof. You can have the best car alarm in the world and someone can roll up with a tow truck and take off with it. The point is to make it harder for thieves to get away with it and thats all Im looking for. .

Related

Email from Peter Chou of HTC about Lock Bootloaders last night

Dear Richard,
Thank you for your support to htc. We hear your concern. And we take it seriously and now we will unlock it.
Our original intent was to reduce the potential quality problem when user upgrade their phone.
Any way we will unlock it. Customer satisfaction is very important for us and we want you have a good experience when you deal with htc.
Thanks again for your support.
Best Regards.
Peter
I am pretty impressed he actually emailed me back.
Richard_Danger said:
Dear Richard,
Thank you for your support to htc. We hear your concern. And we take it seriously and now we will unlock it.
Our original intent was to reduce the potential quality problem when user upgrade their phone.
Any way we will unlock it. Customer satisfaction is very important for us and we want you have a good experience when you deal with htc.
Thanks again for your support.
Best Regards.
Peter
I am pretty impressed he actually emailed me back.
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It is a generic email that some have already posted in the threads here. Same thing word for word, nontheless it is nice to see them adressing the issue down to the device.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1934416953868&set=o.101063233083&type=1&ref=nf
It?
Richard_Danger said:
Dear Richard,
Thank you for your support to htc. We hear your concern. And we take it seriously and now we will unlock it.
Our original intent was to reduce the potential quality problem when user upgrade their phone.
Any way we will unlock it. Customer satisfaction is very important for us and we want you have a good experience when you deal with htc.
Thanks again for your support.
Best Regards.
Peter
I am pretty impressed he actually emailed me back.
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Just a minor note. The e-mail says "it". This is the first indication that they intend to unlock the EVO 3D (assuming your e-mail was about the 3D), as opposed to "future HTC releases" that don't inlcude the impending ones.
Thats excellent news!
mevensen said:
Just a minor note. The e-mail says "it". This is the first indication that they intend to unlock the EVO 3D (assuming your e-mail was about the 3D), as opposed to "future HTC releases" that don't inlcude the impending ones.
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Yes it was about the EVO 3D. I told them I was really excited for it, but if they were going to lock the bootloader then I wasnt going to buy it.
mevensen said:
Just a minor note. The e-mail says "it". This is the first indication that they intend to unlock the EVO 3D (assuming your e-mail was about the 3D), as opposed to "future HTC releases" that don't inlcude the impending ones.
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Exactly!
This is great news. The engadget and other posts on the original message made it sound like the Evo may not be included.
Now im happy
[email protected] said:
It is a generic email that some have already posted in the threads here. Same thing word for word, nontheless it is nice to see them adressing the issue down to the device.
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What do you expect. For all the emails received does he need to make them all more personal to make you happy. I just don't get the reason why certain people seem so ungrateful. Maybe that is not your intent, but thats how it comes across to me and your not the only one so I just don't understand. Enlighten me if I seem out of place here.
toxicfumes22 said:
What do you expect. For all the emails received does he need to make them all more personal to make you happy. I just don't get the reason why certain people seem so ungrateful. Maybe that is not your intent, but thats how it comes across to me and your not the only one so I just don't understand. Enlighten me if I seem out of place here.
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You do seem a little out of place here. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
If you read HTC's post saying going forward they will not lock the bootloaders but, since the EVO 3d is due to release pretty soon it sounded unsure if that would fall under that umbrella or if they are saying there next lines of phones.
People just want to be certain before they lay their money down and there os nothing wrong with that. Don't see how that is ungrateful. People will be extremely greatful if the EVO 3d is unlocked.
Great news homies
i emailed him last night:
Me:
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But what I want to know is will all HTC's phones be unlocked officially with the next OTA? As in will my Evo 4G???
Raech said:
But what I want to know is will all HTC's phones be unlocked officially with the next OTA? As in will my Evo 4G???
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The EVO 4G didn't have the same type of bootloader protection, that's why we were able to root it.
So I will still have to root my phone myself for super user access. Sigh.
The only good news is others will already have super user access without having to root? Or just that they can root to get it?
Normally I am not short bus. I am just trying to be sure I understood.
Raech said:
So I will still have to root my phone myself for super user access. Sigh.
The only good news is others will already have super user access without having to root? Or just that they can root to get it?
Normally I am not short bus. I am just trying to be sure I understood.
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You have to root your phone to gain super user access
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
Does anyone know if a 32 gig Kingston class 10 will work in 3d??
I know its off topic but i don't wanna start a thread
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alchemist316 said:
Does anyone know if a 32 gig Kingston class 10 will work in 3d??
I know its off topic but i don't wanna start a thread
virus kingdom port b112
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I would be very surprised if it didn't. It's a brand new super-high tech top of the line device.
EDIT: bearing in mind that i have no idea what any of the classes specify. I know it deals with speed...that's all.
daneurysm said:
I would be very surprised if it didn't. It's a brand new super-high tech top of the line device.
EDIT: bearing in mind that i have no idea what any of the classes specify. I know it deals with speed...that's all.
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Thanks man
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Rydah805 said:
i emailed him last night:
Me:
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oh yea good news
Raech said:
So I will still have to root my phone myself for super user access. Sigh.
The only good news is others will already have super user access without having to root? Or just that they can root to get it?
Normally I am not short bus. I am just trying to be sure I understood.
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super user access aka root aka su, is to powerful to be available to the average user, one thing I lament with Android is, as much as I adore it bringing Linux to the masses, the standard users don't understand the cardinal rules of a Linux operating system. Root is like a user account on your PC, you only use it when you have to do something low level to the system temporarily, otherwise you can easily damage your phones system. This is why you see the root apps ask for then release superuser privileges. So no phone ever will come with root default. Its to powerful unless you know what to do with it. Plus it induces a serious security hole. Think about it this way, you root long enough to flash or run setcpu, then you return to your standard "non-administrator" account.

[REF] How to disable "Presidential Alerts"

This mod was discovered for the S3. I have followed the instructions and verified that it works on the S4 also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829681
I was able to "open as text" in Root Explorer to modify the original file. Saving the file from there automatically created a .bak of the original.
0reo said:
This mod was discovered for the S3. I have followed the instructions and verified that it works on the S4 also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829681
I was able to "open as text" in Root Explorer to modify the original file. Saving the file from there automatically created a .bak of the original.
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My question is why would you want to disable them? If a presidential alert was ever issued I think you'd definitely want to know about it as they are not issued often at all.
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On my old Droid X I used to get Emergency Alert System Tests under the "Presidential Alert" heading. They were obnoxious. Not to mention the fact that I simply don't use my phone that way and prefer to get my emergency preparedness alerts from other sources. Oh, and I also have a real problem with .gov cramming this useless nanny-state garbage down my throat.
You want your "[propaganda] alerts" that's fine, don't turn them off. Some people want them turned off and the link above explains how.
That's strange that you got common EAS tests, as I have never received one in my history of owning a smart phone or any phone for that matter. I think it would be a wise idea to keep them on there just in case you are not around "other sources" if something crazy happened. Just my two cents. But thanks for the contribution, I am sure there are other people that feel the same way.
Are we supposed to believe any message that comes through those alerts?
You guys do as you want, I just hope not tax payer money will be spend rescuing you after you fail to heed the warnings.
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rednoved said:
Are we supposed to believe any message that comes through those alerts?
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Yea as it will mean the country is under attack or something catastrophic has happened.
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timeToy said:
You guys do as you want, I just hope not tax payer money will be spend rescuing you after you fail to heed the warnings.
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You mean like Katrina style camp FEMA? Please don't! I can handle myself, thank you very much but no thanks.
Ignorance is not a virtue...
timeToy said:
You guys do as you want, I just hope not tax payer money will be spend rescuing you after you fail to heed the warnings.
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lol yet taxpayer money goes out to pay for the systems to send these texts out. i don't need a text to get a tornado warning; there's 2893489234893 weather apps on android that do it, along with the fact i own a weather radio that specifically alerts me for it. i don't need my cellphone to do it from the government.
jayochs said:
lol yet taxpayer money goes out to pay for the systems to send these texts out. i don't need a text to get a tornado warning; there's 2893489234893 weather apps on android that do it, along with the fact i own a weather radio that specifically alerts me for it. i don't need my cellphone to do it from the government.
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Welt it never hurts. The weather apps I find can have a delay and if a tornado is rilling my way id like to have as much warning as I can get and as many warnings.
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In all the time I've been a smartphone user, I've gotten test alerts every once in a good while, and the only emergencies I've ever gotten was several flood warnings, despite the fact that in that realm of time we even had tornado emergencies and ZERO EAS alert on my phone.
This shouldn't even be a conversation. If you statist sheeple want your paranoia alerts no one is stopping you. Yet you have this retarded mental breakdown that those of us capable of self reliance and critical thinking need to be convinced to see things your way. You just can't deal with the fact that your view isn't the only one, can you?
0reo said:
This shouldn't even be a conversation. If you statist sheeple want your paranoia alerts no one is stopping you. Yet you have this retarded mental breakdown that those of us capable of self reliance and critical thinking need to be convinced to see things your way. You just can't deal with the fact that your view isn't the only one, can you?
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Not really, it's just tinfoil hat club conspiracy theorists like you that have to denouce a tested and proven method of keeping the general populace safe. Did you throw your FM radio out the window when it started giving weather alerts?
0reo said:
This shouldn't even be a conversation. If you statist sheeple want your paranoia alerts no one is stopping you. Yet you have this retarded mental breakdown that those of us capable of self reliance and critical thinking need to be convinced to see things your way. You just can't deal with the fact that your view isn't the only one, can you?
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Looks like the oxygen is pretty thin up there on your high horse.
It's ironic that you mention critical thinking skills because your rant is clearly and concisely demonstrative of a lack of said skills. You may want to study up on logical fallacies because you've relied on them heavily.
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0reo said:
This mod was discovered for the S3. I have followed the instructions and verified that it works on the S4 also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829681
I was able to "open as text" in Root Explorer to modify the original file. Saving the file from there automatically created a .bak of the original.
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dont know
0reo said:
This shouldn't even be a conversation. If you statist sheeple want your paranoia alerts no one is stopping you. Yet you have this retarded mental breakdown that those of us capable of self reliance and critical thinking need to be convinced to see things your way. You just can't deal with the fact that your view isn't the only one, can you?
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The reason nobody is agreeing with you is not because of your stance, it's because of your attitude. Even the people that would normally agree with your point of view most-likely closed the topic and shook their head because you're coming across like a spoiled teenager telling his parents he doesn't need their help and wants to do things his own way.
If you don't want the alerts: Wonderful; however, calling people that see a need for the alerts (or at least understand the reason for them) statist sheeple and [mental retards] is beyond reprehensible.
Oh, and read najaboy's response...then do a google search for logical fallacies. It's like you're just going down the list while creating your argument and demonstrating every one.
timeToy said:
You guys do as you want, I just hope not tax payer money will be spend rescuing you after you fail to heed the warnings.
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Just wanted to point out that this is not a "Presidential" alert, it's an "Extreme" alert, which ARE able to be unchecked by default.
I usually am really good with words. But this thread has left me quite speechless... Closed before the President reports anymore weather....

Knox/Samsung Pay/root

So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
dcmtnbkr said:
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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The only thought to be had about the matter right now is, it might require KNOX, it might not.
It's not even a thing at the moment, so there's just no real information about it out there.
i'm willing to give up root for samsung pay.
samsung pay is so awesome! it said loopPay works with 90% of retailers, so which 10% of retailers dont work?
dcmtnbkr said:
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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Plus their talking the summer before it's live and that's just the U.S., and Korea, that means NOTHING in the real world. Who's summer, early or late summer, is it a update the carries must push or just an app? I wanted to give it a go if it was "working out the box" but again it was another Samsung marketing scheme! Note 5, S7, may have it working out the box.
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I can't imagine that Knox will be required for samsung pay, but having an unrooted phone might..
Time will tell
Confirmed, samsung pay won't work with rooted phones
http://www.gsmarena.com/rooting_your_galaxy_s6_or_s6_edge_will_disable_samsung_pay-news-11984.php
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
netnerd said:
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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It might no be 100% confirmed but common sense would say that it wouldn't work with a modified OS. Payment security is a big deal and massive concern for many company's .
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I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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i dont get it either. apple devices support ApplePay at day one. Facepalm.
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
wase4711 said:
It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
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Good reply. Thanks. Just thought I was missing something .
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It won't drastically improve your life, but it's a practical feature that can be useful for some people. Maybe for people who don't like carrying wallets. You can just stick your ID in between your phone and your phone case, and you're good to go.
Also, if you forget your wallet... Something that might happen these days considering how everyone has their phone with them no matter what.
If we can use Samsung pay with next Gear Watch like Apple did with their Watch... Man, that is huge.
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Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
Signed.

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Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
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The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers

Lg Stylo 6 unlock

So I have a LG Stylo 6 from boost, And I have an unlock code. Issue is that my phone does not prompt for an unlock code and the phone is still pretty new so needless to say google is as useful as a car with no gas in this situation. How or where do I go in order to input the unlock code? BTW I think the U.S should be more the the EU and ban carriers from locking a device because now I probably have to throw out a perfectly good phone just because I moved to an area with no boost service what so ever.
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So I have a LG Stylo 6 from boost, And I have an unlock code. Issue is that my phone does not prompt for an unlock code and the phone is still pretty new so needless to say google is as useful as a car with no gas in this situation. How or where do I go in order to input the unlock code? BTW I think the U.S should be more the the EU and ban carriers from locking a device because now I probably have to throw out a perfectly good phone just because I moved to an area with no boost service what so ever.
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allow me to add that yes I do have an unsupported SIM card in it right now and it should prompt for an unlock code, but it does not.
Since no one is helping with this useful post, I'll throw my 2¢.. you can force the unlock code using the dialer or tweaking the hidden menu.. but the simple method is to crossflash the unlocked version firmware.. all stylo 6 models have the same hardware.. do not use original lgup to crossflash.. use lgup dual mode made by one of our developers.. credits to him.. I'm terrible at remembering online names..
So I just received a LM-Q730TM10i as insurers replacement for my Stylo 5 junk from boost. immediately ice boxed updaters and locked on original software I believe came in new box. I'm all eyes and ears on this thread forgive me it's been a minute since I've lurked/ lived amongst XDA but I'm very interested and am all eyes and ears and I'll help if I can.. I believe this device is a great Improvement both the five and believe it may be worthy of such development.
jimyv said:
So I just received a LM-Q730TM10i as insurers replacement for my Stylo 5 junk from boost. immediately ice boxed updaters and locked on original software I believe came in new box. I'm all eyes and ears on this thread forgive me it's been a minute since I've lurked/ lived amongst XDA but I'm very interested and am all eyes and ears and I'll help if I can.. I believe this device is a great Improvement both the five and believe it may be worthy of such development.
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Me and some others have been working on development. Personally, I'm pretty close to getting it carrier unlocked through LGUP and an unlocked firmware file. Others are discussing root and bootloader unlocking. Feel free to join us.
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Link to the original xda thread from us is in there somewhere, too. Take your time catching up there first before mulling through the discord, we could really use all the help we can get.
haise.zero said:
Me and some others have been working on development. Personally, I'm pretty close to getting it carrier unlocked through LGUP and an unlocked firmware file. Others are discussing root and bootloader unlocking. Feel free to join us.
Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities
Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.
discord.gg
Link to the original xda thread from us is in there somewhere, too. Take your time catching up there first before mulling through the discord, we could really use all the help we can get.
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Is there an updated link to the discord server? Also, have you gotten any closer to carrier unlock? I've been trying to figure it out
PickleRickster69 said:
Is there an updated link to the discord server? Also, have you gotten any closer to carrier unlock? I've been trying to figure it out
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Closer, yes. Am I there? Totally not yet.
I'm currently gathering options and working out my own patches amongst learning about LAF, ARB, the OPID partition, and more. It will be some time, but when I do end up reverse engineering LGUP to meet our needs, it should be something significant for more than just the Stylo 6 community; ideally, it should make a big difference for the LG community as a whole.
Please see the post in this thread for the Discord link.
PrivateSnuffy10112 said:
So I have a LG Stylo 6 from boost, And I have an unlock code. Issue is that my phone does not prompt for an unlock code and the phone is still pretty new so needless to say google is as useful as a car with no gas in this situation. How or where do I go in order to input the unlock code? BTW I think the U.S should be more the the EU and ban carriers from locking a device because now I probably have to throw out a perfectly good phone just because I moved to an area with no boost service what so ever.
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You have to enter a code in the stock lg dialer. It will bring you to the unlock menu. Do a web search for it. I believe it begins with 2945#* and then the model number. For example, my stylo 5 is a q720, so 2945#*720.
PrivateSnuffy10112 said:
So I have a LG Stylo 6 from boost, And I have an unlock code. Issue is that my phone does not prompt for an unlock code and the phone is still pretty new so needless to say google is as useful as a car with no gas in this situation. How or where do I go in order to input the unlock code? BTW I think the U.S should be more the the EU and ban carriers from locking a device because now I probably have to throw out a perfectly good phone just because I moved to an area with no boost service what so ever.
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So I was a bit curious And you made p.m. me if necessary as to how you obtained an unlock code I was told by Boost that the new phone did not carry a code or is not Able to be entered Or was not necessary or something along these lines . And said it had to be done remotely / manufacturer and Provider . Thus I continued to have mine unlocked and yes it was unlocked remotely
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PrivateSnuffy10112 said:
So I have a LG Stylo 6 from boost, And I have an unlock code. Issue is that my phone does not prompt for an unlock code and the phone is still pretty new so needless to say google is as useful as a car with no gas in this situation. How or where do I go in order to input the unlock code? BTW I think the U.S should be more the the EU and ban carriers from locking a device because now I probably have to throw out a perfectly good phone just because I moved to an area with no boost service what so ever.
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So I was a bit curious And you made p.m. me if necessary as to how you obtained an unlock code I was told by Boost that the new phone did not carry a code or is not Able to be entered Or was not necessary or something along these lines . And said it had to be done remotely / manufacturer and Provider . Thus I continued to have mine unlocked and yes it was unlocked remotelyView attachment 5203189
Any success with bootloader unlocking?
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Any success with bootloader unlocking?
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No.
I've learned a lot more than I ever thought I would so far, but as of this moment it's just not done yet unfortunately.
We could use some help, so if anyone knows .NET/C#, PM me on Discord.
Haise#0906

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