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hello all,
sorry if this has been asked before (it prolly has been, i didnt find it though):
the atrix got 1gb ram right? after a reboot there is only around 570mb free ram...
after a few days without rebooting iam stuck around 440-480mb ram...
1st: where is my 1gb?
2nd: why do i even loose more ram?
sorry iam really new to android.
thanks for the help.
There is a reserve amount for android and motoblur then whatever apps u got running in background
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grncivic2001 said:
There is a reserve amount for android and motoblur then whatever apps u got running in background
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yea i know android needs some itself but is it 50% ??? i mean the LG optimus only got 512mb... in my case id have 0 left... something strange here?
i got the launcherPro running. should be motoblur disabled now?.
thanks for the fast answer !
Yes it has 1gb 200mb is reserved for the webtop and 800mb is for android
you might want to read up on how linux and android USE ram also. free ram is wasted ram
is it bloatware
So its normal i only have roughly 600 mb left. Ok thx a lot.
Can you help me with another problem.?
I read somewhere that you don't need a task killer. I have always used one to get back to like 500mb. Now you tell me unused ram is wasted ram. I installed autokiller after some advice and opened some games and stuff. Later i was at 154 unused ram. After 2 hours standby i was at 237mb unused ram. Would i ever get back to 400+ ? And is it really better or at least soesnt matter for battery life?
Thx for help
Smintz said:
So its normal i only have roughly 600 mb left. Ok thx a lot.
Can you help me with another problem.?
I read somewhere that you don't need a task killer. I have always used one to get back to like 500mb. Now you tell me unused ram is wasted ram. I installed autokiller after some advice and opened some games and stuff. Later i was at 154 unused ram. After 2 hours standby i was at 237mb unused ram. Would i ever get back to 400+ ? And is it really better or at least soesnt matter for battery life?
Thx for help
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I found that to be true (not needing a task killer) but only under Gingerbread (I've noticed that since I upgraded my Nexus One to Gingerbread), but on FroYo that's not really the case, or so I've noitced.
However I found that the task killer included on the Atrix works really well (much better than any other on the Market). It's just a matter of selecting the apps that you don't want to auto close and that's it. The battery last a bit longer and the device does not heat up at all.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Heres how I see it.
On your computer, you're always scrambling for more ram right? Because you are running multiple applications at once. You have a music player, a game, chat, windows itself, antivirus etc.
On your phone, it depends more on your processor speed. You arent multitasking like crazy (and if you are your phone would start to heat up really rapidly) Android allocates ram accordingly to what you are running in the foreground and apps that arent open but were opened recently. That way, if you reopen a recently closed app, it is still in memory and will open quicker. If you don't access the closed app after a while, it will clear itself from memory. You definitely don't need a task killer for android, only more processing speed.
I only have 325 of ram
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Pirateghost said:
you might want to read up on how linux and android USE ram also. free ram is wasted ram
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Bingo. So many people freak out that they don't have enough RAM... it's getting annoying seeing as how the Android OS has been out for a long enough time to understand this now.
Even of you cant find it it doesnt matter. Your phone will tell you.
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I have like 600 when running chongoblur it quickly goes down to 400 something but still this thing is a devastator of worlds
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Hi
Just im looking for advice
i have I9300 , but i'm looking to replace it with i9305 for Extra Ram
but the Rom and support for I9300 is more better
So what do u advice me ?!
Thanks
It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
Glebun said:
It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
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So what do u think
better ram
or better rom support ?
Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
I guess you're not having any performance problems but the amount of available ram seems small. I do think about it too but I sure you if everything is working good don't worry about the free ram. I did try few roms and some was worked with around 400 mb of free ram somehow but believe me they was with bad performance than other roms that shows me under 200 mb free of ram. So it seems that is pointless to even worry of the amount of free ram. Free for what? Let it use however it needs at enjoy of your rocket. Multitasking get troubles if this ram is reserved for just showing us. I see some video comparisons of the two models and quad core was better in them as I remember. If apps are not crashing as is on my phone I think is good for you to keep I9300. I had a dual core I9100 with 1gb of ram but it was overheating all the time I played harder games. What if the processor of phone you want to buy get overheat with it's 2 gb ram memory. Maybe the amount of ram will not helping so much. While I play the harder games with my phone now, the free ram is under 100 mb but no matter my phone never get hot as my old Galaxy S2. I think quad core processor is the reason. Stronger processor is better I think than bigger ram memory. If you actually haven't problems of course.
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Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
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Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
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just im Afraid the performance will be same then i lose the nice rom support
and some time im telling my self maybe after some time a new cooker will support I9305
and you can enjoy both
do you really think 2G RAM and 1G RAM can make that much difference?
i mean , why do you need so much RAM ?
i had been a same situation once before in similar.
i bought a laptop year ago come with 4G RAM , i just didn't know what i was thinking , i bought an extra Memory , (4GB , 50 euros) to make dual-channel, and plug in , initial up
okay, i didn't see any , not even a little bit of performance improvement although some benchmark software indicates something like 3% - 5% performance up.
but it is not humanly recognizable...
actually i can change my mobile with i9305 on free
I think i'd take the i9005
The original one just doesnt have enough ram..
Apps keep reloading. No proper multitasking. Its like im using an iphone..
But still, keep your phone and wait for the S4 is my advice.
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Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
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That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eteo1fpaqwjzbo/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-42-22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
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That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eteo1fpaqwjzbo/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-42-22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
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Thanks alot
i will go through ur advice . as i believe more support will come to i19305
so let me get 4G and Extra Ram like not2 :good:
but can you help me with link of root !
and should i use same Theme Motomoto file that i have
or there is a special one for i9305
Thanking u
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Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
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Thanks for ur advice
And thanks All
really you help me Alot
appreciate that
As long as you make sure you only flash things from the I9305 threads, you'll be fine.
For rooting just go the Dev I9305 forum and look at a thread called "what to do when you first get your I9305" or something like that. It has everything you need.
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Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
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Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
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I got the mobile now
This is my first post fr it.heheheh
But what is mean of support domination and jkay ?
Thanks
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Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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ayydin said:
Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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sure you will touch improvement in performance cause of the ram . special i was facing a problem with my s3-i9300
when the ram become below 100 MB . and u be forced to run to use task killer to increase it
now i feel safe because the ram always up 1000 MB :good:
and sure that reflect on maltitask . no more lag when im opening many heavy program . u won't feel that some program work in background as before
and after install Motomoto thems i feel great
boot animation , and some mods programs is not working
in General i feel happy to convert to i9305 for now ....hehehe
but i will miss the Great OMEGA rom
my advice to any one thinking to sell his mobile (i9300) to get i9305
better to wait and get S4
for me the deal with on free with out pay extra money
Thank for all who share information
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Linux is not windows, free ram=wasted ram
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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been discussed to death, search the other multiple threads for an answer
Life Engineer said:
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Hi
I had the same issue
HTC Desire HD (768MB RAM) - Custom ROM - Always 150-200MB free RAM
S3 i9300 (1GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 100MB or less free RAM
S3 LTE i9305 (2GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 600-500MB free RAM
On my Desire HD never had luancher redraws, dialer, messaing app dropping from memory but was a issue on the S3, I think its an issue with higher resolution screens and software not optimized properly (memory management).
I have seen a fair few Xperia T devices which also have 1GB RAM but they seem to have 200-300MB free RAM.
I have the S3 LTE (i9305) now and RAM usage is always above 1GB, generally around 1.1/1.2 GB.
Maybe it's just Samsung software.
Thanks
Daanlt said:
Linux is not windows, free ram=wasted ram
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Sorry to tell you but that's not true!
I can multitask easily on my S2 but I cant on my S3!! We can't just give some arguments just to convince ourselves!
I can open up to 5 apps and seamlessly switch between them while I can't do the same on my s3! It reopens the app!
Damn I'm really depressed by this sh*t! It should have been 2 RAMs!
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DSA said:
been discussed to death, search the other multiple threads for an answer
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Please guide me Mr. consider me as an ignorant!
All I could find was some threads in Q&A which unfortunately are only Q without any convincing A!!
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eggman89 said:
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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Please point me to some workarounds I'm ready to try some!
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I have a nexus 7 and the amount of memory used by identical apps is 2-3 times more on the s3. It must be down to the architecture of the processors and compiling.
I have to remove loads of bloat and freeze some apps when not in use to make it usable. Shocking really.
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Daanlt said:
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Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
The ram issue on the S3 is well-known. The memory management isn't as good as it could have been. I blame bloatwiz. Don't know if we should cry or laugh. They have crammed more than 800 MB of bloat in a phone that runs perfectly without it. A full odin rom is approx 1.2 GB and it's possible to reach a size of 300 MB (I know, because I have tried), by seriously cleaning up the system partition, in terms of apps and libs and it runs without a hitch, and has loads of ram left.
It also goes without saying that unused ram, is wasted ram.
yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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More free RAM=better multitasking,it's a fact.It's only wasted if you are going to run only 1 app at a time or else android will start killing apps when your phone is running out of memory.Not to mention the annoying browser refreshes which I face a lot even when I'm running only1 app with the browser(e.g:Facebook).If I'm playing a heavy game and recieved a 1 min call, the game restarts and I lose my progress.The problem is the terrible memory management in touchwiz ROMs,I have tried out a few AOSP 4.2 ROMs before and I have to say that multitasking is much better on them and browser refreshes happen less frequently.So,if you are ok with losing TW's features, flash an aosp ROM for better multitasking.
drakester09 said:
If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
Well used to have this issue. Rooted, installed omega 40 and I can seamlessly multitask upto 6-7 apps at a time. Try omega rom, multitasking is great in this rom.
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yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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So what you are saying the apps are not cached they are kept in RAM, please learn what caching is, cached apps are stored in the cache partition of the phone, they are not cached in the RAM otherwise the phone is doing nothing with them.
Android works by moving background apps to the internal memory, if you switch your phone on check RAM usage, then open apps using the home button to get back to the home screen and check it you will see that no matter how many apps you open the free and used RAM values barely change up to a certain point, this is the app caching at work.
If you home out of apps you will see why Android caches apps.
Running stock ELLA I just used the recent apps, and home button, opened 7 apps and used the home button to return to the home screen, no launcher redraws, and my apps all opened instantly where they were.
yahyoh said:
LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
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Well said:thumbup:
I'm also sick of listening about "free ram is wasted ram".
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I dont see any problems here, this isn't just turned on either.
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Mine always hovers around 650/832... Even if i have crap ton of apps running,
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Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
udhayababu said:
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
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Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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tanx bro:laugh:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Is the jb update is conformed?:laugh:
yes, look at name of threads or google
and beware, there are some grammar nazis who would eat you alive for last post
btw if you have enough funding, get some nexus device (as much as I like my dx, I had to say that)
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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knielen said:
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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exactly, best price/performance ratio I have ever seen in smartphone area, but still, it isnt flagship, never was intended to be, never will be. If you want good phone for good price, go for it, I can only recomend. If you want really high-end phone, or just bigger screen, there are other options, but not DX.
if you have a low budget then buy this phone... its not that big and super fast for games and others...
if you can afford a more expensive phone then buy something better
but just to know that devs started working a lot on this phone and it will become a lot faster
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
Uizz.UW said:
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
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"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
mindlesSheep said:
"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
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Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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angel.grin said:
Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
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Stereo8 said:
Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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The Nexus 4 is nice yes, but still not the best, it has many problems and features that didn't work right and some bugs which Google didn't fix for many updates....
If you have enough money, I would choose the new HTC One
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Yes that's the point ^^ The Desire X is not the very best High-End phone, but it is still a very nice and great working phone with good performance
I love it <3
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udhayababu said:
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
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desire x is a good device dont bother looking for galaxy s3 mini its not released nor will it release in india.The nexus 4 if released at the US price point is an excellent buy else if from what i have heard @500$ seems kindof pricey.
Look at LAVA XOLO Q800,Micromax Canvas HD, Spice Titanium s1 ,and all the other local brands if you aren't so hung up about custom roms(I for one am).
If you are willing to wait for say a month or so there is Xperia L(Available for preorder) ,Optimus L9 And ofcourse there is Galaxy Grand.
EDIT: #zen-mode-ON
the desire X is the true choice of Needs and Wants it is actually everything that you need(yes gaming is also very good eg Dead Trigger). But then what exactly you want a 10 inch screen 16 core processor 1TB ram the demands are endless so you have gotta make a choice a balance between needs and wants.
angel.grin said:
Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
mindlesSheep said:
I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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ok got your point.i have a different experience so maybe we have different opinions. no point in debating. cheers
to the ts. i really dont like the cpu and gpu combo in the dx.. gpu not that good.. if it had a better gpu maybe i would buy this. go find a device with a good gpu from mid to high. this is just low end gpu. adreno 203 < sgx 531 based on my experience and benchmarks. so better find a cellphone with a good gpu that how i choose a new phone though.
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I didn't mean that having more free RAM is a bonus , I just wanted to point out that RAM is not something to take into consideration when gaming . Speciffically , that it's got more than enough for any high-end game . Having enough or more than enough are both better than NOT having enough at all .
Indeed I am a lot more familiar with Windows' way of dealing with RAM , however I've seen how Linux works as well , and even though you are right in saying that using more RAM grants you better multitasking , the way Android handles the RAM on the DX is far from perfect . From my experience , Samsung devices manage RAM A LOT better than any other brand I've tried so far (at least on low / middle end devices) . HTC doesn't do a bad job , but it's not to be praised either , at least not on the DX . Then again , look at an LG's RAM management and you'll most likely start crying xD !
Hello XDA, I use an itel it506 android phone which has less than 512mb of RAM and exact 5.5gb of internal storage. Of course anyone seeing this should know how slow the phone can be when it comes to multitasking and playing of some good quality games. I did a research on google on how to increase the RAM of an android phone and got introduced to the app called RAM EXPANDER developed by ROEHSOFT (which increases the ram virtually not physically but using a part of the sdcard as RAM) but after following the tutorials, not just in a particular site but also tutorials from other sites I have no luck , the worse part of it is this, I introduced this same solution to a friend of mine that has the same problem on his tecno phone and it solved his problem making his phone 70% faster according to him. The question is why doesn't it work for my itel? Is it that it doesn't support itel phones or what? Cos I have tried it on my first itel 1501 of the same category of RAM size with this it1506 and no luck also, or is it something I am doing wrong. Please help
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Hello XDA, I use an itel it506 android phone which has less than 512mb of RAM and exact 5.5gb of internal storage. Of course anyone seeing this should know how slow the phone can be when it comes to multitasking and playing of some good quality games. I did a research on google on how to increase the RAM of an android phone and got introduced to the app called RAM EXPANDER developed by ROEHSOFT (which increases the ram virtually not physically but using a part of the sdcard as RAM) but after following the tutorials, not just in a particular site but also tutorials from other sites I have no luck , the worse part of it is this, I introduced this same solution to a friend of mine that has the same problem on his tecno phone and it solved his problem making his phone 70% faster according to him. The question is why doesn't it work for my itel? Is it that it doesn't support itel phones or what? Cos I have tried it on my first itel 1501 of the same category of RAM size with this it1506 and no luck also, or is it something I am doing wrong. Please help
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This is the wrong subforum, You will need to post in the "other Android devices" subforum to recieve help (I forget the exact name of the subforum, sorry about that).
This subforum is strictly about the Exodus custom ROM, not about miscellanious issues on any device's stock ROM.
OK thanks.. I was even also confused on where to put it cos I didn't see a particular sub forum for posting problems
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Tomsplendy said:
OK thanks.. I was even also confused on where to put it cos I didn't see a particular sub forum for posting problems
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No problem, perhaps the XDA Assist threads will help you, it's under the General Discussions subforum.
OK thanks a lot, I'll do just that.
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