Hey all,
I've been trying to figure out whether my phone can be rooted/s-off.
From my understanding of processes I think I've screwed myself with an OTA but figured I would ask this anyways.
In my Hboot screen it claims I have HBoot- 1.12.0000 which from everything I've read has the ability to achieve S-off.
(My Hboot screen)
*** Locked ***
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBoot -1.12.0000
Radio -1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP -v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012, 19:54:01
(End Hboot screen)
Now the problem comes in since I accepted the OTA that put my phone's version to 1.22.651.3 710RD
From what I've read I'll be unable to root without using HTC's dev system.
So my questions are these:
1. Can I achieve root without using HTC's system? (From what I've read the answer is no, but hey no harm in asking it’s the q&a section after all. XD )
2. If not can I use HTC's system can I still achieve S-off?
3. If not do you think there will be a chance to see a root that doesn't use HTC's method?
4. If I can still achieve S-off using HTC's system can I then revert my phone to a RUU of 1.22.651.1 and reroot it from there?
Bonus questions:
5. From what I've read it seems like I'm unable to use RUUs unless I'm already rooted/s-offed but I'll ask it anyways can I use a RUU to restore back to 1.22.651.1 without rooting or being s-offed?
6. Can I perform a factory reset on the phone to get the phone to revert to version 1.22.651.1? (I'm assuming no here or everyone would've done it already. XD)
7. If yes, can I then use the non-HTC system to root my phone followed by s-offing my phone?
Thank you for your time.
ksharks
ksharks said:
Hey all,
I've been trying to figure out whether my phone can be rooted/s-off.
From my understanding of processes I think I've screwed myself with an OTA but figured I would ask this anyways.
In my Hboot screen it claims I have HBoot- 1.12.0000 which from everything I've read has the ability to achieve S-off.
(My Hboot screen)
*** Locked ***
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBoot -1.12.0000
Radio -1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP -v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012, 19:54:01
(End Hboot screen)
Now the problem comes in since I accepted the OTA that put my phone's version to 1.22.651.3 710RD
From what I've read I'll be unable to root without using HTC's dev system.
So my questions are these:
1. Can I achieve root without using HTC's system? (From what I've read the answer is no, but hey no harm in asking it’s the q&a section after all. XD )
2. If not can I use HTC's system can I still achieve S-off?
3. If not do you think there will be a chance to see a root that doesn't use HTC's method?
4. If I can still achieve S-off using HTC's system can I then revert my phone to a RUU of 1.22.651.1 and reroot it from there?
Bonus questions:
5. From what I've read it seems like I'm unable to use RUUs unless I'm already rooted/s-offed but I'll ask it anyways can I use a RUU to restore back to 1.22.651.1 without rooting or being s-offed?
6. Can I perform a factory reset on the phone to get the phone to revert to version 1.22.651.1? (I'm assuming no here or everyone would've done it already. XD)
7. If yes, can I then use the non-HTC system to root my phone followed by s-offing my phone?
Thank you for your time.
ksharks
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you should search the lazypanda thread to see if v1.22.651.3 will work or go to unlimited.io
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
If your hboot is 1.12 you're good to go for s-off. Weird that you still have 1.12 after taking the ota though. I'd say go ahead and go for it...the worst that could happen is it won't recognize your phone or you soft brick and have to run the unbricker. That happened to me but I was back up and running in a few minutes.
Once you're s-off, you can flash any base you want...and firmware as well. Just avoid flashing older firmware than what you're currently running since others have bricked from doing that.
If s-off doesn't work for you, you can still htc dev unlock and be able to flash roms and kernels from any base. You just won't be able to flash firmware. RegawMOD should do the trick, just make sure to read about when to manually reboot the phone if you decide to go that route.
Sent from my EVO LTE
yea man your good.. i see u got hboot 1.12. then u can s-off all day!! read up in the lazy panda thread easy as pie!
I am having huge Issues with HTC EVO Sprint
I tried to install MikVirgin-RC3-signed, but I got a bootloop when systen was goign to start, I did many fixes and now after I install any rom i gets stuck after a few seconds of lading and then reboots itself.
Also I tried to unroot my cell phone but I get the message relocked security warning and I am unable to install PG86IMG_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5_Radio_1.06.00.1216_NV_NV_spcs_1.42_release_233304-signed
I am able to go into bootloader
I have:
Shooter XC SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Radio 1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011,10:21:40
PLEASE HEELP I NEED TO FIX THIS
anonimoyque said:
I am having huge Issues with HTC EVO Sprint
I tried to install MikVirgin-RC3-signed, but I got a bootloop when systen was goign to start, I did many fixes and now after I install any rom i gets stuck after a few seconds of lading and then reboots itself.
Also I tried to unroot my cell phone but I get the message relocked security warning and I am unable to install PG86IMG_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5_Radio_1.06.00.1216_NV_NV_spcs_1.42_release_233304-signed
I am able to go into bootloader
I have:
Shooter XC SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Radio 1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011,10:21:40
PLEASE HEELP I NEED TO FIX THIS
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Remove/replace the battery and restart the bootloader and try flashing the RUU again. If that doesn't work you can try flashing the RUU.exe from Windows with the bootloader in "fastboot USB" mode.
ramjet73
anonimoyque said:
I am having huge Issues with HTC EVO Sprint
I tried to install MikVirgin-RC3-signed, but I got a bootloop when systen was goign to start, I did many fixes and now after I install any rom i gets stuck after a few seconds of lading and then reboots itself.
Also I tried to unroot my cell phone but I get the message relocked security warning and I am unable to install PG86IMG_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5_Radio_1.06.00.1216_NV_NV_spcs_1.42_release_233304-signed
I am able to go into bootloader
I have:
Shooter XC SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Radio 1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011,10:21:40
PLEASE HEELP I NEED TO FIX THIS
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one thing i have learned is when flashing roms, make sure you have the correct firmware package, and hboot.. because some Roms use the VM Firmware from the leak a few months back, while others use the Sprint Firmware, also depending on the base of the rom you may need to flash a newer or older hboot
anonimoyque said:
I am having huge Issues with HTC EVO Sprint
I tried to install MikVirgin-RC3-signed, but I got a bootloop when systen was goign to start, I did many fixes and now after I install any rom i gets stuck after a few seconds of lading and then reboots itself.
Also I tried to unroot my cell phone but I get the message relocked security warning and I am unable to install PG86IMG_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5_Radio_1.06.00.1216_NV_NV_spcs_1.42_release_233304-signed
I am able to go into bootloader
I have:
Shooter XC SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Radio 1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011,10:21:40
PLEASE HEELP I NEED TO FIX THIS
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try unlocking your bootloader again and THEN flashing that gingerbread RUU best to also have s-off... but if not you should still be ok .... but the unlocked bootloader is a must... you said youre relocked...
wloftus said:
try unlocking your bootloader again and THEN flashing that gingerbread RUU best to also have s-off... but if not you should still be ok .... but the unlocked bootloader is a must... you said youre relocked...
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I agree about being s-off, but the ruu.exe will error out if the bootloader is unlocked. You must relock the bootloader first.
coal686 said:
I agree about being s-off, but the ruu.exe will error out if the bootloader is unlocked. You must relock the bootloader first.
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i use linux so i dont do the EXE's... i take the RUU and rename it to PG86IMG.zip and it still works unlocked or not... just different approaches depending on the OS you use i guess
wloftus said:
i use linux so i dont do the EXE's... i take the RUU and rename it to PG86IMG.zip and it still works unlocked or not... just different approaches depending on the OS you use i guess
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That should be the same thing as long as the RUU.zip is extracted from the RUU.exe and properly signed.
But coal is right about needing the bootloader locked/relocked to flash the RUU if you are S-ON (which the OP said he is), regardless of whether you use the RUU.exe or RUU.zip.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
That should be the same thing as long as the RUU.zip is extracted from the RUU.exe and properly signed.
But coal is right about needing the bootloader locked/relocked to flash the RUU if you are S-ON (which the OP said he is), regardless of whether you use the RUU.exe or RUU.zip.
ramjet73
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no he is not...ive reloaded GB and ICS manually while being unlocked you cant tell me what i have and have not done considering IM the one thats done it
wloftus said:
no he is not...ive reloaded GB and ICS manually while being unlocked you cant tell me what i have and have not done considering IM the one thats done it
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Unlocked and S-OFF, right? That works fine but an RUU flash with S-ON and an unlocked bootloader will fail, regardless of how you do it.
If you don't believe me set your phone back to S-ON and try it.
From the OP:
I am able to go into bootloader
I have:
Shooter XC SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Radio 1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011,10:21:40
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That sure looks like S-ON to me. The reason I jumped back into this thread is that I don't want other users getting incorrect information.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Unlocked and S-OFF, right? That works fine but an RUU flash with S-ON and an unlocked bootloader will fail, regardless of how you do it.
If you don't believe me set your phone back to S-ON and try it.
From the OP:
That sure looks like S-ON to me. The reason I jumped back into this thread is that I don't want other users getting incorrect information.
ramjet73
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make up your mind you first said its the locked relocked status... now you say its the s-on , s-off status....if iive still done flashes with the s-on status and while still unlocked so i dont know what problems you all are running into
wloftus said:
make up your mind you first said its the locked relocked status... now you say its the s-on , s-off status....if iive still done flashes with the s-on status and while still unlocked so i dont know what problems you all are running into
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I don't think so.
You really should try flashing an RUU (.exe or .zip) with radio S-ON and an unlocked bootloader before you advise other users to try that. If you can do that successfully I will admit I am wrong in this thread. Otherwise, please stop insisting that it will work.
You have been ignoring the fact that the OP is S-ON throughout this thread and that really isn't going to help him at all.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
I don't think so.
You really should try flashing an RUU (.exe or .zip) with radio S-ON and an unlocked bootloader before you advise other users to try that. If you can do that successfully I will admit I am wrong in this thread. Otherwise, please stop insisting that it will work.
You have been ignoring the fact that the OP is S-ON throughout this thread and that really isn't going to help him at all.
ramjet73
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i have... i infact did it earlier with the upgrade to ICS while flashing the firmware.zip file after renameing it to PG86IMG.zip and WOW it worked... im done arguing ... this is my last post... post again if you feel you need the last word....
wloftus said:
im done arguing ... this is my last post... post again if you feel you need the last word....
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Thank you. I will make one last post just so people are clear on the requirements for flashing an RUU with S-ON.
Here's a quote from mpgrimm2's My Running stock RUU Reference info post:
Note 3: If you previously did the HTC Unlock, you'd have to "RELOCK" BEFORE running the RUU.
To do this from fastboot type: fastboot oem lock
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That guide has been around for a long time on XDA and another website and it has been used by a lot of people, including myself. If that information was wrong, I'm sure mpgrimm2 would have corrected it by now.
If you want to flash an RUU with S-ON and an unlocked bootloader, make sure that you relock it before flashing or you will get an error.
ramjet73
wloftus, I'm not saying you're lying since as you said, you were the one who did it and you say it worked for you. But, if one is s-on and unlocked, the ruu will error out with error 155. I google searched ruu lock bootloader error and found many sites that say the bootloader must be locked if s-on (see below). But, if one wants to try while leaving the bootloader unlocked, then be my guest. If it works, great; if not, then relock the bootloader.
Sources:
Should I relock my bootloader
[HOW TO] Flash RUU / OTA when getting ERROR 155 although phone is back to stock
And one specific to the Evo3d: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-3d/198402-ruu-2-89-651-2-hboot-1-58-a.html#post2084625
wloftus said:
try unlocking your bootloader again and THEN flashing that gingerbread RUU best to also have s-off... but if not you should still be ok .... but the unlocked bootloader is a must... you said youre relocked...
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Hey thanks for your comment, yes it says relocked but also Security Warning... do you know how can I remove this? so I can leave it locked again and try to reinstall the stock RUU?
ramjet73 said:
Unlocked and S-OFF, right? That works fine but an RUU flash with S-ON and an unlocked bootloader will fail, regardless of how you do it.
If you don't believe me set your phone back to S-ON and try it.
From the OP:
That sure looks like S-ON to me. The reason I jumped back into this thread is that I don't want other users getting incorrect information.
ramjet73
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I agree with you... the probllem is that I cannot relock the cell phone... when I try I get the message relocked but also the message security warning!!
how can I remove it??
anonimoyque said:
I agree with you... the probllem is that I cannot relock the cell phone... when I try I get the message relocked but also the message security warning!!
how can I remove it??
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There's a thread here that discusses, but people seem to have used various methods to solve it from restarting the bootloader to reflashing their unlock token. That's why I recommended in my first post of this thread that you remove/replace the battery and restart the bootoader.
ramjet73
GSM version. I was originally trying to solve my 'wifi-wont turn on' problem, ended up trying to flash a custom ROM, which meant I had to perform the S-OFF wire trick, which was a pain in the ass, but successful.
Right now I'm at the following specs, and no idea how to continue. No matter what I do seems to leave me in the same place. Ive tried multiple ROMs now and every time I try to upgrade/downgrade the hboot or the radio it gives me "model ID incorrect" and reboot.
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.53.0007
RADIO-11.253504.06_M
OpenDSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0202
eMMC-boot
May 22 blah blah
Also have Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
Any help is appreciated!
Ultimately plan on putting a data-only SIM in and mounting it in my car. Don't make me use my Xperia Play instead!
[edit]Forgot to mention I have the PG86310, which after some googling indicates is a bad thing
i dont know about the the PG86310 but you could try using this method to downgrade hboot. then wipe data+caches in recovery and flash a custom rom
Okay I successfully downgraded my hboot to 1.49.008 using a combination of the above link, and files from the original Rogers RUU. I was able to boot the stock ROM and re-unlock my device. I'm now at HBoot 1.49.008, unlocked, S-Off
Stock ROM wifi,bluetooth,gps not working
Tried a 4.2.2 custom ROM (it booted this time!!) and wifi, bluetooth, gps not working.
Dang, this phone never had hardware problems, hoping its something stupid i'm overlooking
Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
JDT283 said:
Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
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The S equals "Security." So, S-OFF is "Security Off", meaning you can flash every aspect of your device -- from Radios to Bootloaders (not that I'd recommend doing that). S-ON just means that you can only flash custom recoveries, ROMs, and kernels. If you have S-OFF, you effectively have an unlocked bootloader, just more freedom. S-OFF also allows you to relock your bootloader (and have it say LOCKED), whereas relocking your bootloader on S-ON relocks it to RELOCKED. Hope that answers your questions
Hi All. I'm sorry to ask this question again but I've been to the other threads and they are pretty old and I'm finding some of the links are not working and I don't want to start until I have everything I need.
I've had my Rezound for many many years and it's time to move on so I need to get this thing back to lookin like I never tampered with it. If someone could point me to a thread that works or help with this that would be most appreciated.
Bootloader:
***TAMPERED***
*** LOCKED ***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.28.0000
RADIO - 2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.0124r
OpenDSP - v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC - boot
Sep 20 2012, 17:40:22
Recovery is RA Vigor v3.16
Thanks
I think, you must unlock bootloader first here (your phone is s-off now). Video on youtube (see untill flash custom recovery)
Then see here: How to remove your "tampered" banner.
Video on youtube from 10:48
After lock the bootloader: from fastboot "fastboot oem lock" (command without ".") and flash stock rom
Finaly your phone will have the status: relocked, s-off, stock rom.
Thanks g-ray666. That worked just fine although the link for the latest RUU never worked. I found an older version which is fine. Is there any way to get S-on?
Is there any way to get S-on?
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I think no, but 100% not sure. For other HTC phone I saw the instructions but for rezound - no.
I'll check my mega acct and see what I have on there for you
Sent From MY PIMP CLASS G3!!!