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Its seems since the last ota ,every time i check my apps tab i see Google maps running, i close it out an 5 mins later it's there again , i have no other mapping software installed and only ran it once when i first got the tablet to see how my gps was working, i checked to see if some other app is calling it up, but for the life of me i couldn't see any of my installed apps needing it , i run a fairly lean system with maybe 12 apps installed beyond stock . Most of these being rss readers comic readers and a few various off line games and work tools , I'm not around wifi often so I'm a big fan of apps that store the data as opposed to just refreshing links. No Facebook apps or location check in style apps either, maybe my browser settings for searching local, but i would think that uses wifi info to establish that....
I've been using android since its inception but am a first time tablet owner barring a returned ipad 1 when those launched and a complete moron when compared to the level of knowledge displayed on this forum, so any ideas would be appreciated.
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Read the thread title, any idea why constantly run? thnx
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My guess is it has to do with location tracking, like if you gave google permission to use your location for whatever. I couldn't tell you how to disable it as it was an option that came up when first setting up the device...it also came up once when I signed into my google account on the google.com home page in the browser.
This is simply me guessing but I would try disabling anything that tracks your location and see if that helps. Maps is always running on my phone as well.
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Its seems since the last ota ,every time i check my apps tab i see Google maps running, i close it out an 5 mins later it's there again , i have no other mapping software installed and only ran it once when i first got the tablet to see how my gps was working, i checked to see if some other app is calling it up, but for the life of me i couldn't see any of my installed apps needing it , i run a fairly lean system with maybe 12 apps installed beyond stock . Most of these being rss readers comic readers and a few various off line games and work tools , I'm not around wifi often so I'm a big fan of apps that store the data as opposed to just refreshing links. No Facebook apps or location check in style apps either, maybe my browser settings for searching local, but i would think that uses wifi info to establish that....
I've been using android since its inception but am a first time tablet owner barring a returned ipad 1 when those launched and a complete moron when compared to the level of knowledge displayed on this forum, so any ideas would be appreciated.
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Read the thread title, any idea why constantly run? thnx
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Google tracks location using the maps app on all devices with the Android market. The use it for delivering relevant ads and also for their traffic data. Remember, if something is free then you are the product.
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Don't keep trying to close it. It will keep coming back automatically and you actually making the prime work a lil but harder by it having to relaunch it everytime. That will lead to faster battery drain. Just try cutting off Google locations in setting and see if that remedies it. Of not there's nothing you can do. If you try to disable it or get rid of it. It might cause issues with other apps.
Hey all,
I use one of my Rezounds as a Wi-Fi only "media device" for just movies, games, music, and internet access when WiFi is present.
So last night i was inputting some driving directions into Google Navigation, and since it doesn't have mobile data capabilities I just took a screen shot of the turn by turn directions screen.
So I get in my car, drive out of my driveway, and all of a sudden this WIFI ONLY no mobile data whatsoever phone start giving me turn-by-turn real time directions; just as if it was activated on Verizon's network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although, I cannot replicate it for the life of me now. Now all i hear from the phone is " Lost Data Communication"
My question is...since Garmin GPS's solely relay on satellite connectivity without having to pay a reoccurring fee like smartphone users for mobile internet. Is there anyway that the Rezound can imitate a Garmin??
I almost pissed myself it started working without a mobile network.
hope this made sense lol
Thanks
Can't you use the GPS alone anyway as long as you've navigated where you're going before?
I Am Marino said:
Can't you use the GPS alone anyway as long as you've navigated where you're going before?
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I never navigated there before that's what's trippin me out
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You should be able to precache the maps. Try looking for the precaching option in Maps, cache where you're going to drive, and see if it works.
I haven't tried this yet.
I know there are some apps in the Playstore that allow you to download maps to your SD card and then use that to navigate without a data connection. I used Navdroyd in Ireland, worked great.
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You should be able to precache the maps. Try looking for the precaching option in Maps, cache where you're going to drive, and see if it works.
I haven't tried this yet.
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Pretty much nailed it. If you look up directions on WiFi the app will cache the whole trip. It's a great feature.
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does the feature offer uninterrupted service like a regular garmin
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does the feature offer uninterrupted service like a regular garmin
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Yes, as long as it doesn't have to recalculate the route. Sometimes is can recalculate, sometimes it can't. Google added the larger cache a couple revisions back.
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Yes, as long as it doesn't have to recalculate the route. Sometimes is can recalculate, sometimes it can't. Google added the larger cache a couple revisions back.
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correct, if it has to look up new directions, it cant. As long as you don't recalculate it will work. Navigation apps that have whole maps should not rely on data. Therefore you should be able to use the device as a standalone gps without data.
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correct, if it has to look up new directions, it cant. As long as you don't recalculate it will work. Navigation apps that have whole maps should not rely on data. Therefore you should be able to use the device as a standalone gps without data.
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could my radio /h.boot versions be the problemwhy it keeps saying "no data connection"
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they added pre-downloaded navigation into Google Maps quite awhile back. Its very helpful, as I use a wifi-only tablet in much the same fashion. Unfortunately, it only caches the route you planned out, if you decide to try navigating around the map it won't pull new images until you get a connection again.
There is an app called MapDroyd I think, and its supposed to have fully cached offline maps.
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they added pre-downloaded navigation into Google Maps quite awhile back. Its very helpful, as I use a wifi-only tablet in much the same fashion. Unfortunately, it only caches the route you planned out, if you decide to try navigating around the map it won't pull new images until you get a connection again.
There is an app called MapDroyd I think, and its supposed to have fully cached offline maps.
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its not turn by turn
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I know there are some apps in the Playstore that allow you to download maps to your SD card and then use that to navigate without a data connection. I used Navdroyd in Ireland, worked great.
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NavFree in the Store seems to work really well and allows you (in the NavFree USA Edition) to download each states maps individually. This allows/turns your phone into a TRUE GPS, where no data connection required. Although, I have found that using the 'Google Search' option a better way to find certain addresses. But, once that address is found, you don't need any further data connection AND you can go off-track and not lose yourself as there are no map updates/refreshes necessary.
This app is not the worlds best, but for a free GPS app with downloadable maps, it's about as good as your typical GPS out there. Although, I will say that it's the 'best' NON-Data GPS app I've found to date.
-Cybie
the it leaves me with this question....what internally do the Garmins that we.don't
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the it leaves me with this question....what internally do the Garmins that we.don't
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Nothing really. They just have a internal storage with all of the map data pre-loaded on it, where Google Maps only caches small bits of recently used data locally and relies on an internet connection for the actual map data and graphics.
In theory, Google Maps would run just fine off the device if you were able to download all the map data for an entire state or country onto your device... But Google is a "cloud" company and believes in connecting everything via the internet, so its unlikely they will have a fully offline version even if it is technically possible to do...
Google's approach does have the benefit of always having access to current maps, whereas Garmin/TomTom/etc systems need to be updated periodically or the map information may be out of date and no longer accurate.
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There are plenty of standalone GPS apps with turn by turn directions. I actually decided to make my Incredible into a dedicated GPS just that way; since it has no data plan.
jdmba said:
There are plenty of standalone GPS apps with turn by turn directions. I actually decided to make my Incredible into a dedicated GPS just that way; since it has no data plan.
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which stand alone Alps I've tried a lot of the popular ones and. I'm in need of some things that I need a something that ass is close to a garmin as possible. I definitely need the real time turn by turn directions. and something that has a reliable connection that it won't lose signal on me when I'm in the middle of nowhere
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Sell this extra Rezound you have, use the money to buy a real GPS and use the rest for gas money. All problems solved.
bump anybody else have any advice on stand aloneapps
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coming from the iphone 4s, the iphone can use gps w/o being activated so im sure there is a way to use gps on the rezound, especially since the rezound is better
Hi,
recently I tried out Sygic which works really nice except for one thing:
when Sygic is running in background after a while (seems randomly) the GPS message disappears (upper message in attached pic), the Sygic message remains (lower message in attached pic).
When I click the Sygic message, the app behaves as if I restarted it (says "initializing" on top right). Luckily, it remembers the old route.
Yet sometimes I don't drive myself and would like to do other stuff and have Sygic tracking in the background.
It works fine with Google maps.Yet not with Sygic. Especially when I launch any other app (even the browser, a video or something), Sygic stops tracking immediately (not always but often) or some time later.
GPS is set to never turn off in Sygic and all settings are set to "optimal".
Could that be the Android OS turning something off for Sygic as it might believe it's no longer used or something?
Sygic is more sophisticated than Google maps and uses more ram. If you start opening other apps after Sygic then they will get higher priority in ram. Sygic doesn't really stop so much as get pushed out of memory until it gets switched to again. Not much you can do about it really.
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Ah that explains the issue, already feared something like that.
The only annoying part is that it no longer tells me where to go when that happens.
Does anyone know whether this happens with other apps such as Navigon as well?
Since the newest update (at least I didn't notice it before) Sygic has an option "Run navigation in back..." under Battery management.
Haven't tested it yet but that supposedly sets the oom_adj values low enough for the app not to get killed.
Ah thanks, that is new indeed.
Yet I tried this and eventually the same thing happens sooner or later. :/
Open Sygic.... go to SETTINGS than go to BATTERY MANAGEMENT (i don't know witch is the correct option in english as my SYGIC is in ITALIAN)... the first setting that is show to you is the opportunity to deactivate the GPS signal after a definite time.... change it!
Yeah that option is now replaced, you can only check/uncheck it. I checked it so it keeps running in background but still shuts off after a while when using other apps.
You're right. I have the same problem. This is ridiculous. You are running navigation and expect it to give you the directions at the right moment, but you don't know that in the meantime, while you got a phone call and checked your messages it was turned off silently and no longer working.
Without an option to guarantee it's working and can't be stopped in the background, you're as if you have no navigation at all.
If this can not be fixed it's better not to even install Sygic, cause this takes away a major part of what this app is meant to do. So stupid.
I have tried Igo and it was the same. How serious is that?! To have a navigation, which can stop while you're using it and need it, without warning!
Did anybody find a solution to this?
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
Landorin said:
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
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I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
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I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
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I have been using Sygic for quite a long time and noticed that on my Galaxy Captivate, after initialization, if you switch to some other app then return to Sygic (either from the app icon, or from the task bar) it always restart.
However on my Galaxy S3 after switch back to Sygic it just continues wherever it left off. I guess that my Captivate had less memory to run Sygic while I have plenty on the S3.
Also in Sygic, go to Settings / Notifications and Sounds / Advanced and turn "Sound always on" would let Sygic to continue to turn-by-turn announcement even if it is not in the foreground, even when the screen is off.
I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
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I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
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You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
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You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
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Thanks for trying to help. This option is set properly to "never" with me.
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
Landorin said:
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
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Thanks for this elaborate report. It will be useful for many.
And yes, the navigation soft producers must make some conclusions.
If I find a good way to protect an app from being killed, I'll post it here.
You can try Fameelee - Family Locator app and you will never get such problems. 24/7 real time accurate gps location tracking, ability to see location history of your app members for the last 30 days, get notification once your app members reach some specific places (that you match by yourself), sms and call logs tracking and a lot of more. App is free and avaiable on appstore and google play market
How can I track where I go and have it drawn onto google maps, by this I mean for hiking in the mountains and to save references to paths I have walked (also to help to not get lost)?
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Google maps I'm not sure but there are apps in the play store that are capable of this I'm sure
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Try My Tracks or Endomondo. Both are good for mapping paths like for walking, hiking, biking, etc...
mjones73 said:
Try My Tracks or Endomondo. Both are good for mapping paths like for walking, hiking, biking, etc...
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Yes, plenty in play store. Make sure your battery is charged!
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Try My Tracks or Endomondo. Both are good for mapping paths like for walking, hiking, biking, etc...
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I've used My Tracks before very good program I recommend it.
I use cardiotrainer. Hasn't failed me yet.
I also have used mytracks. You can export to google maps and it plots it on the google map. Awesome app. Shows avg speed, total distance, time, alt, etc.
I got both, my tracks may be the winner with google maps tracking on the computer.
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I know that GPS Essentials is free, and it will save KML files for viewing in Google Earth. That's what I've been using. Plus, if you start a track, you can power off your screen and you GPS stays locked. Sometimes I use GPS Essentials to keep GPS on all the time for other apps so I don't have to relock all the time.
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I know that GPS Essentials is free, and it will save KML files for viewing in Google Earth. That's what I've been using. Plus, if you start a track, you can power off your screen and you GPS stays locked. Sometimes I use GPS Essentials to keep GPS on all the time for other apps so I don't have to relock all the time.
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I've never had an issue with Endomondo or My Tracks dropping GPS with the screen off.
I use Endomondo...
Any of these GPS tracking apps...you can turn off data while doing your hike or run to conserve battery.
The only problem I have with this watch is that it maxes out at 5 minutes for the screen to stay on. When I am running I want it to be like any other running watch and give me information during my run without me having to push buttons. There is an always on watch function, why not create an always on watch that gives you your running stats based on Nike+ or the other stock running app. I would try the other running apps, but they are garbage unless you have a phone. No one wants to run with their phone and that's why I wanted this watch. Same price as a garmin watch, but can do more stuff. I'm looking into development, I do webdev currently and I hear this is like javascript, I may build it myself if I have time....hopefully.
+1 I agree but for other reasons. I like the current always on feature but why cant we just have an extra feature in the display timeout setting for "indefinite" . Android wear has this feature and it should be on the gear s for many reasons including yours.
If you have the wake-up gesture enabled under "Motions" in settings, then you can check your progress while running on the Nike+ app with the flick of your wrist — while in operation the Nike+ app is activated by this gesture instead of the watch face.
After a few seconds the display will automatically turn off again, allowing you to extend your battery life. I think this is probably the best solutions since GPS tracking and bluetooth music streaming while running are already major drains on the battery.
I'd like to see the option to change the display to grayscale (which should save battery life) when we're running outdoors. This would help with overall battery life if we're using the GPS, streaming music, BT, etc.
For those following this thread there is an app now available in the samsung app store called screen awake that keeps the screen on or dimmed.