[Q] Damage to Z Ultra from Magnetic Charger? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hey, I just got my Z Ultra less than a week ago and I purchased http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JEN5S6A/
I figured it would be easier to use then undoing the charging flap every time.
When I was trying the tip out without being connected to the charger I noticed the magnet was strong but didn't sit in the connector properly..
After looking at some other magnetic chargers online I saw some of them being plugged in upside down so I tried that and it sat in the port better.
When the phone was extremely low on batter (4 percent) I plugged the charger into the tip and put it on upside down. At first the phone restarted so I thought hmm thats weird and unplugged it, I then tried again and made sure it sat in the port snug and my phone turned off and wouldnt turn on again.. After about 15 minutes of the phone charging with no sign of led or charging symbol I found online to try the reset button and it finally turned on. I did some searching online and found out that the port isn't really meant for a magnetic charger but a dock and what I experienced was inverse connection.
So i am wondering if this could have possibly damaged the phone or battery in any way? I dont know if my battery life has been affected or stayed the same as it was the second day of having the phone..
Sorry for the long rant but I would appreciate any input. Thanks

You're not the first one to do a "reverse charging", and I believe that it will or can damage your device. The magnetic connector is made for the Sony DK30 dock, which costs around $30.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EC...200_QL40&qid=1404599682&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1
The thing with using accessories like you do, is that it's not a genuine product by Sony, so any damage done by say, a no-name charger like you're using, won't be covered by the warranty. If your Ultra catches fire in the middle of the night and you're using a " fake" charger, well tough luck. Sony won't cover that.
I would use a "fake" charger if the Ultra had a removable battery, in case it got damaged, but it doesn't, so you're really playing with fire right now.

Well to be honest I did not know the charger wasn't made for that until I experienced that. I've ordered the dk30 dock online as the sony store near me did not carry it but was wondering if I should be concerned with what already happened and get my phone swapped as it's still within return policy..?

Haze69 said:
Well to be honest I did not know the charger wasn't made for that until I experienced that. I've ordered the dk30 dock online as the sony store near me did not carry it but was wondering if I should be concerned with what already happened and get my phone swapped as it's still within return policy..?
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i bought a aftermarket magnetic charging cable, plugged reversely and same as yours, couldnt turn on until i pressed the reset button to make the led lit when charging, waited a few hours plugged to the usb sony charger, led turned out normal. just when i thought it was fine again i noticed whenever i turned it off it turned itself on again and boot loop until i pressed the reset button to make it really off, plus, when it hit 15% battery life on the indicator on notification bar, it dropped 2% per second, yes, per second, and phone died. returned it and waiting for replacement.
see if yours has those symptoms, i think reverse charging does damage to the battery or the phone, see the shape of the tips of the charging port different, there may be a reason behind it.
edit: the reason i tried plugging the magnetic cable reversely was while i plugged it in normal direction, it showed its charging while it wasnt, thats y, and it was a cheap aftermarket one, i ended up buying a official dk30 from sony store

Mwinggg said:
i bought a aftermarket magnetic charging cable, plugged reversely and same as yours, couldnt turn on until i pressed the reset button to make the led lit when charging, waited a few hours plugged to the usb sony charger, led turned out normal. just when i thought it was fine again i noticed whenever i turned it off it turned itself on again and boot loop until i pressed the reset button to make it really off, plus, when it hit 15% battery life on the indicator on notification bar, it dropped 2% per second, yes, per second, and phone died. returned it and waiting for replacement.
see if yours has those symptoms, i think reverse charging does damage to the battery or the phone, see the shape of the tips of the charging port different, there may be a reason behind it.
edit: the reason i tried plugging the magnetic cable reversely was while i plugged it in normal direction, it showed its charging while it wasnt, thats y, and it was a cheap aftermarket one, i ended up buying a official dk30 from sony store
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I have a Magnetic Charger - and I too experienced the shut down when I tried it upside down once.
I'm using a generic charger and haven't experienced any issues for months - just make sure to use it correctly.
This thread has me worried now though haha.

bigystyle84 said:
I have a Magnetic Charger - and I too experienced the shut down when I tried it upside down once.
I'm using a generic charger and haven't experienced any issues for months - just make sure to use it correctly.
This thread has me worried now though haha.
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Im sure there has been one that the charger was the wrong polarity I think, and another where it was misused, that ended up with near dead batteries

I accidentally connected the charger in reverse, well the port is now dead. The phone thinks it's charging but the charger light never comes on and GSAM shows no increase in charge. At least the USB port still works.
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Thank you very much for the warning. After reading this thread I was thinking that Sony should have keyed the connector to only plug in one orientation. I looked at my magnetic charger and that is indeed the case. One opening is round and one is oval, so the round opening will not fit over the oval contact on the phone. I guess the issue is the quality of the magnetic charger cable - a cheap one still may allow contact. The key is that the contacts on the cable are recessed into the housing so that the housing must fit over the posts on the phone before contact is made.

why in the name of all that is holy does the connector even allow for being plugged in the wrong way???

Cheap Chineese knockoffs. JUST DON'T BUY THEM.

Sony should have just gone with induction charging but oh well. As cheap as the GPe is right now, I'll just buy another one.
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I just found this thread after plugging in my magnetic adapter in backwards. I have been using it for almost 6 months with no problem, and then this past Friday, I sat down at my desk and grabbed the charger and stuck it on without looking, and the phone shut off. You know the rest, now the magnetic port is done, and the screen will either keep coming back on while charging, or shut off and not come back on unless I force it off with Power + Vol + key. This sucks. I don't think I will get another Sony since it was so easy to kill it. Great big screen though, I will miss it.

ec4912 said:
I just found this thread after plugging in my magnetic adapter in backwards. I have been using it for almost 6 months with no problem, and then this past Friday, I sat down at my desk and grabbed the charger and stuck it on without looking, and the phone shut off. You know the rest, now the magnetic port is done, and the screen will either keep coming back on while charging, or shut off and not come back on unless I force it off with Power + Vol + key. This sucks. I don't think I will get another Sony since it was so easy to kill it. Great big screen though, I will miss it.
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It wasn't a sony cable though was it? can you blame sony for a defective charger that they don't make?
Sorry about the phone by the way

blueether said:
It wasn't a sony cable though was it? can you blame sony for a defective charger that they don't make?
Sorry about the phone by the way
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You're right, it was some cheap Chinese magnetic adapter, and true, I can't blame Sony for that. I guess I have gotten accustomed to buying any cheap microUSB cable or even headphone I can find, and using it on my phone without a second thought. I think that's why all of us who have messed up our phones with these bad magnetic adapters didn't stop to think we were putting our phone at risk. It was just another cheap accessory. I guess I have learned my lesson to be more careful what I stick into my next phone.

Be careful of where you purchase the dock as well; I purchased the DK 30 dock on eBay, and after about a month, started having problems charging. One day, it wouldn't charge on the dock at all.
Saw that the right pin in the dock has one of the plastic surrounds which broke off, which I assume is the culprit of the problem.
So off I went, this time Amazon, to order another dock, which works, using it now to charge my mobile phone.
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Fire!
I almost killed my phone! Aside from upside-down, I was using an apple 2.4a charger - it burned the side out of the phone, and melted the cable right off the connector - in fact - the melting-off probably saved me - house filled with smoke etc. It did the mad re-start loop thing for about half an hour (my guess - there's a temp sensor in there which was tripping our because of the heat), but to my amazement, even with the side melted to death, the phone now still seems to work OK for me (probably not including the "waterproof" feature anymore).
Was super lucky it didn't burn the house down. What kind of idiot manufacturer doesn't put a polarity bridge on their reversable socket!?!?!?!

cndg said:
I almost killed my phone! Aside from upside-down, I was using an apple 2.4a charger - it burned the side out of the phone, and melted the cable right off the connector - in fact - the melting-off probably saved me - house filled with smoke etc. It did the mad re-start loop thing for about half an hour (my guess - there's a temp sensor in there which was tripping our because of the heat), but to my amazement, even with the side melted to death, the phone now still seems to work OK for me (probably not including the "waterproof" feature anymore).
Was super lucky it didn't burn the house down. What kind of idiot manufacturer doesn't put a polarity bridge on their reversable socket!?!?!?!
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with an oem version the plug isn't reversible for all accounts I've read

I bought one on eBay allegedly SONY, broken in two-three weeks of use.
Brought another on Amazon, believe it is genuine, still works.
Both were the DK-30 charging dock. The broken one I use to watch YouTube.
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Just to echo all of the previous posters - had the same issue as well.
My experience played out as follows:
* Got phone - over joyed since recently price reductions for such a high quality product meant approx USD290.
* Realise the flaps are a bit annoying so after 1 week; get magnetic charger. Seems to work at office
* Get another for home. After try two times; connect but not charge. connect in reverse. Phone shuts off immediately.
* PANICK - for next 30 minutes try the little red button, power switch + (combinations). Nothing helps
* eventually just plug into USB port and pray. After another 20 minutes get blinking red LED. But still doesn't boot
* another 20 minutes ago- solid LED; it boots! still at original percentage battery.
* now have strange problem - without anything plugged in; the phone can't boot properly, get repated SONY logo followed by power off and loop. CPU gets hot.
* If plug in USB - get styled battery icon; and when booting... IT WORKS.
* If close to fully charge (>90%) screen keeps on activating now when charging.
* to rub salt in the wound; the original magnetic charger at work doesn't seem to charge anymore (ie magnetic charger port dead).
Since it is a 3 week old phone, have lots of mixed feelings now. It was REALLY great purchase for the price and happy with it at first. but now I feel like I have a damaged product. feel quite upset.
I know buying cheap USB charger was the problem; but for SONY to have something so critical and vulnerable makes me wary as well. Initlally happy with phone (came from Galaxy Note camp) but now just wary of the phones.

coastalmikey said:
I accidentally connected the charger in reverse, well the port is now dead. The phone thinks it's charging but the charger light never comes on and GSAM shows no increase in charge. At least the USB port still works.
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I am facing the same problem. My magnetic charging port is now dead ( charging led lights up but the doesn't charged the battery. battery level goes down ). I have changed the magnetic charging port, but still behaves the same. Do you think changing the charging flex will make it work ? because if the magnetic charging port is damaged from motherboard itself, then there is no point changing the flex...
Appreciate your reply.
Thanks !

Related

G tablet refuses to charge

The title says it all. The device refuses to charge or detect my charger. I am not sure what to do or if anything can even be done.
What would the "next step" be?
Is the liight on the charger on?
Is there 12V on the charge plug?
If yes, send it back.
The answer to both of those is yes.
My next question is how much would it cost to get it fixed by Viewsonic (a rough estimate)? I only ask because my warranty is shot due to me flashing Vegan 5b.
I called viewsonic and as it turns out they cannot fix devices that have been flashed.
So, unfortunately I have a brick that will not charge.
If you have any charge left, I would nvflash it and get it back the original firmware and kernel. It's really not difficult to do. Then I'd send it in for warranty repair.
That's a good idea, but my device has enough charge to turn on for only one minute.
Not enough time to reflash the original firmware and kernel. I was unaware that it wouldn't charge until it refused to light up.
Will it run with the plug in?
I tried this and it seems to work. Plug the power supply into the Gtab with it powered off. Hit the right side of the tablet on the edge slightly. This worked for me to get the red light on(I hit mine about three times and the red light came on). Mine only charges while plugged in but I still get a full charge even thought the battery indicator shows 0%. I have used mine all day today without a plug and it sits at 0%
Your idea intrigues me... you tapped it, eh? Well it's worth a good shot, I'm about ready to try incantations!
Okay, so the light on the charger is on. But is it really charging. It could not be charging or have a bad cable or......
You need to find a way to make sure the correct voltage is coming out of the charger plug (the specs are on your
power adapter/charger).
And if you know the charger is actually charging....
I don't know much about the inside -- there are some posts about things like this
from along the way since November. But it might be worth your while to open the case and make sure it's not something as simple as a wire that has come loose.
Also, if it is the charger you can go on the web and Google for MPA-630 power
adapter (it also is used for those digital picture frames) and find a replacement.
Good luck. I wouldn't give up yet!!!
Rev
butchconner said:
Okay, so the light on the charger is on. But is it really charging. It could not be charging or have a bad cable or......
You need to find a way to make sure the correct voltage is coming out of the charger plug (the specs are on your
power adapter/charger).
And if you know the charger is actually charging....
I don't know much about the inside -- there are some posts about things like this
from along the way since November. But it might be worth your while to open the case and make sure it's not something as simple as a wire that has come loose.
Also, if it is the charger you can go on the web and Google for MPA-630 power
adapter (it also is used for those digital picture frames) and find a replacement.
Good luck. I wouldn't give up yet!!!
Rev
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...I could lick the charger I suppose that would prove to me if the tail end is receiving power from the head.
I am not a man who gives up, but I do lose hope very quick.
You know, in my head I'm going over a list of things that I can do to inject this device with any amount of energy. Just enough to enable me to reflash the stock on...Buying a dock, replacing the battery with a spare fresh one, throwing the whole thing on top of some power lines...
idontknowu2 said:
Will it run with the plug in?
I tried this and it seems to work. Plug the power supply into the Gtab with it powered off. Hit the right side of the tablet on the edge slightly. This worked for me to get the red light on(I hit mine about three times and the red light came on). Mine only charges while plugged in but I still get a full charge even thought the battery indicator shows 0%. I have used mine all day today without a plug and it sits at 0%
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heh, well I tapped the hell out of that thing... nope (In my heart I didn't think it would work)
I should also say that there is nothing loose, I shake it... and nothing is rattling.
With the DC plugged in, try gently and slowly wiggling the connector left, right, up and down and see if the RED light comes on during the wiggling. If it does then the pin on your DC IN Jack is loose due to failure in the soldering joint holding the DC Jack to the motherboard.
IF you know how to open the Gtablet, you can can resolder the connector. The DC IN Jack even in laptops eventually fail and need to be replaced and/or resoldered. For this reason, I purchased the dock as a backup method to charge the Gtablet.
China computer products are known to be sometimes undersoldered.
Try Googling "loose DC Jack laptop" for more info.
This assumes you power adapter is good.
Hope this helps.
ByByIpad said:
With the DC plugged in, try gently and slowly wiggling the connector left, right, up and down and see if the RED light comes on during the wiggling. If it does then the pin on your DC IN Jack is loose due to failure in the soldering joint holding the DC Jack to the motherboard.
IF you know how to open the Gtablet, you can can resolder the connector. The DC IN Jack even in laptops eventually fail and need to be replaced and/or resoldered. For this reason, I purchased the dock as a backup method to charge the Gtablet.
China computer products are known to be sometimes undersoldered.
Try Googling "loose DC Jack laptop" for more info.
This assumes you power adapter is good.
Hope this helps.
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I wiggled (very slowly) the connector in very direction possible. The red light still didn't come on and the jack felt a strong as ever.
...Maybe it IS a problem with the adapter itself? however, I still don't think so...
Buy a doc from i2steve here on xda. You will have a sweet new accessory and an alternate charging method. Worth it. At that point you can charge it, flash it and send it in for repair. Or if your lazy like me, just use these doc to charge it and call it good.
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hi i recently loaded a new rom on my g tab after id finished it started up ok but plugged my charger in and behold it did not charge no charge light on, so did a few checks with my multimeter found no supple coming from the power charger.
just thought id reply to your enquiry. so im in the throws of buying a universal charger with the same power requirements. hope this helps. yorkygeorge.
Try going to an Office Depot or a Sears and see if they have a G on display. if so, plug yours in to its power adapter. At least then you can rule out your power supply.
^ nice. Really good idea
If you have a 12V adapter with Cigarette plug lying around the house with the right size plug on the end. Try plugging it into your car ( engine off). The voltage on the adapter is 12V.
Mantara said:
Buy a doc from i2steve here on xda. You will have a sweet new accessory and an alternate charging method. Worth it. At that point you can charge it, flash it and send it in for repair. Or if your lazy like me, just use these doc to charge it and call it good.
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I think I'm gonna go this route. It's the only one I can think of right now...
yorkygeorge said:
hi i recently loaded a new rom on my g tab after id finished it started up ok but plugged my charger in and behold it did not charge no charge light on, so did a few checks with my multimeter found no supple coming from the power charger.
just thought id reply to your enquiry. so im in the throws of buying a universal charger with the same power requirements. hope this helps. yorkygeorge.
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I'll try to get my hands on a multimeter to double check that the problem isn't with the charger (I licked the darn thing and didn't get a shock either).

Getting to the bottom of charging issues.

This part of the forum is covered in different charging issue threads due to it being such a prominent feature. Things ranging from model numbers, overheating, not working at all and only working intermittently.
I thought I would attempt to build a thread of the issues we Transformer owners are experiencing and seeing if anyone can really get to the bottom of this.
From what I have picked up from the forums many people are getting bad responses from Asus support, either providing no help at all or asking for the entire tablet+dock+charger at the users expense for shipping.
Common problems outline
[1]The brick gets very hot and stops charging
[2] The contacts between the brick and country adapter (e.g. USA/UK/EU) don't contact properly.
[3] The brick refuses to work altogether for no obvious reason.
Solutions attempted
[1] Bending the two contacts between the brick and country adapter slightly away from the brick (1 - 2mm)
[2] Calling (a somewhat unhelpful so far) Asus and asking for replacement
[3] Preserving (Not very Fun)
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The problems I am experiencing myself are basically that the charger works sometimes perfectly and other times not at all.
I can plug my charger in sometimes and it will work fine, others I can plug it in and my TF doesn't indicate charging although it does charge just VERY VERY slowly (about 2% every 25min).
Heat has not been an issue for me as it has been for many, my charging cable doesn't got warm at all and the brick is never alarmingly warm, nowhere near as hot as my laptop charger gets and the Asus charger is only 5V less than my laptops charger.
Model Numbers
Model numbers have been spoken about but so far I cannot find any evidence that they are different from one another, a known fault with 0B-LF so issues reported to Asus with that model should be find, but as far as I can tell problems with these power bricks happen across all the models (0B-LF, 0B-1LF, 0B-2LF)
If your having issues with your power brick post them below so we can try to keep them all in one place and hopefully try and resolve this.
As you are in the UK i'm not sure if this would apply to you but from my personal experience, i've had situations where the charger itself would be quite warm to the point where up close you can smell that aroma of overheating electronics. The charger has also refused to charge even when not hot, but will work once again after i've taken it off the mains and let it sit.
The american outlets differentiate between the hot and neutral leads via the larger and smaller prongs. I read in another thread concerning polarity and surface charges that when the charger is plugged in with the prong on the A side of the ASUS logo towards the larger (neutral) hole, then the charger will work properly. This has been my experience. I've come to a personal conclusion that the design of the charger is such that it is pole-sensitive but asus didn't bother to tell anyone which prong goes where, hope that might be of some use to you.
lacrossev said:
As you are in the UK i'm not sure if this would apply to you but from my personal experience, i've had situations where the charger itself would be quite warm to the point where up close you can smell that aroma of overheating electronics. The charger has also refused to charge even when not hot, but will work once again after i've taken it off the mains and let it sit.
The american outlets differentiate between the hot and neutral leads via the larger and smaller prongs. I read in another thread concerning polarity and surface charges that when the charger is plugged in with the prong on the A side of the ASUS logo towards the larger (neutral) hole, then the charger will work properly. This has been my experience. I've come to a personal conclusion that the design of the charger is such that it is pole-sensitive but asus didn't bother to tell anyone which prong goes where, hope that might be of some use to you.
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I never have had my charger get hot enough to smell like burning. The only way so far of resolving the issue is leaving my charger unplugged for about 20 min+ and then reconnecting it to my TF.
You forgot the "stick the brick in the freezer" trick.
Not kidding, it worked like a champ for me and a few others.
Put the brick in ziplock bag and stick it in the freezer.
newtybar said:
You forgot the "stick the brick in the freezer" trick.
Not kidding, it worked like a champ for me and a few others.
Put the brick in ziplock bag and stick it in the freezer.
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You know you can achieve the same result by just letting it sit without being plugged anywhere between 20 - 30 minutes. Just in case you don't want to put it in the freezer anymore.
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AcIdC0R3 said:
You know you can achieve
the same result by just letting it sit without being plugged anywhere between 20 - 30 minutes. Just in case you don't want to put it in the freezer anymore.
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Yeah that's what I have been doing, if I plug in my TF and it won't charge I just leave it unplugged for about half an hour and then plug it in again but this is a bit of a pain. Could really do with a better solution.
-_-
Today my TF is refusing to charge at all. It trickle charges from the charger but this takes forever, its gone up 2% in just over 30mins. I'm not sure what to try now.
I have plugged it into charge, didn't work, left it unplugged for 20mins, plugged back in, wouldn't charge, left it unplugged for an hour, plugged back in, wouldn't charge, left it to trickle charge because it only had 1% battery.
I'm not sure what to try now, I might have to call Asus after I go on holiday.
Seems my charger will only trickle charge now, I cant get it to charge properly whatever I try. Maybe I should put it in the freezer for 20mins and see what it does......
If you do the freezer trick, let the adapter sit out UNPLUGGED for a short while.
Introducing heat can result in condensation (water) and we all know water and electronic bits don't get along that well.
Vendors are starting to get stock in spare chargers these days. I just got one in last week. Never had problems with the original yet, tho. The new one is going to the office where it will stay.
FrayAdjacent said:
If you do the freezer trick, let the adapter sit out UNPLUGGED for a short while.
Introducing heat can result in condensation (water) and we all know water and electronic bits don't get along that well.
Vendors are starting to get stock in spare chargers these days. I just got one in last week. Never had problems with the original yet, tho. The new one is going to the office where it will stay.
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Will do. I might have to order another charger if I get no luck with Asus support.
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Will do. I might have to order another charger if I get no luck with Asus support.
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Get a new one, and if it works normally, toss the original one in the box and exchange it at the place you purchased the second one at.
If ASUS won't replace it under warranty, the above will end up with them replacing it when the vendor returns it to them.
I've done some research and as far as I can tell the TF power brick operates in two modes, one is for lower powered 'ordinary' usb devices, such as my phone. This allows this charging brick to charge at 5v @ 2amps outputting a total of 10W.
The second option is primarily for when a TF is connected and runs at 15v @ 1.2amps outputting 18W.
My charging brick seems to charge my phone on the 5v mode fine, but when I connect my TF it isn't charging properly and takes ages, this leads me to believe that somewhere down the line my charging isn't connecting something somewhere and allowing for the 15v charging to take place.
Would I be right in saying this or am I talking all jibberish?
didge3 said:
I've done some research and as far as I can tell the TF power brick operates in two modes, one is for lower powered 'ordinary' usb devices, such as my phone. This allows this charging brick to charge at 5v @ 2amps outputting a total of 10W.
The second option is primarily for when a TF is connected and runs at 15v @ 1.2amps outputting 18W.
My charging brick seems to charge my phone on the 5v mode fine, but when I connect my TF it isn't charging properly and takes ages, this leads me to believe that somewhere down the line my charging isn't connecting something somewhere and allowing for the 15v charging to take place.
Would I be right in saying this or am I talking all jibberish?
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I'd agree. Something in the solid-state(a mosfet or IC) has crapped out due to heat, breaking the 15V section of the charger. Time for a new one. It's possible there's damage to pin 7 in the usb port, but heat-fry is much more likely.
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I'd agree. Something in the solid-state(a mosfet or IC) has crapped out due to heat, breaking the 15V section of the charger. Time for a new one. It's possible there's damage to pin 7 in the usb port, but heat-fry is much more likely.
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Yeah definately taking it back to retail store I bought it from, hopefully they will try it and just give me a new charger then and there.
Info I've gleaned, just in case it might assist someone:
1) I took delivery of an 0B-3LF charger today from ASUS UK, haven't seen any mention of the 3LF yet on XDA. It *appears* to generate less heat but that could just be a placebo effect.
2) Coincidentally, my 0B-2LF - which always got hot when charging dock+tablet simultaneously - failed last night. Unplugging it from the mains then replugging it did not fix it, even though it was cold to the touch by this point. Six hours after unplugging it from the mains, I tried again... the 0B-2LF started working, and continues to work. So if your charger fails, unplug it, give it six hours, then try it again - ideally before registering an RMA, otherwise you'll have to spend an extra half hour working out how to cancel the RMA (answer: email [email protected] with your RMA number, serial number and case reference).
My charger works whenever it feels like it wants to. I've been messing with it for the last 30-45 min with no luck. Unplugging the charger from the outlet, trying different outlets, unplugging and plugging back in the usb cable, with and without usb 3.0 extension, rotating the mains to switch the polarity, pushing out the prongs for the country adapter, widening the opening in the prongs, banging the charger, letting it sit and nothing is working. Just now it turned on, but right after the boot screen, it made the low power chime and died.
Seems like the problem is getting worse. Before when it first stopped charging it was really easy to get it charging again.
Also my father got the TF within the same week i got mine. He went overseas and came back to visit again and his charger has no issues. But i did notice he keeps the USB 3.0 extension along with the usb cable all plugged into each other into the mains whereas I unplug mine and wrap them up when taking them along.
Think that might have something to do with it?
my charger is a 0b-1LF
maxh2005 said:
Info I've gleaned, just in case it might assist someone:
1) I took delivery of an 0B-3LF charger today from ASUS UK, haven't seen any mention of the 3LF yet on XDA. It *appears* to generate less heat but that could just be a placebo effect.
2) Coincidentally, my 0B-2LF - which always got hot when charging dock+tablet simultaneously - failed last night. Unplugging it from the mains then replugging it did not fix it, even though it was cold to the touch by this point. Six hours after unplugging it from the mains, I tried again... the 0B-2LF started working, and continues to work. So if your charger fails, unplug it, give it six hours, then try it again - ideally before registering an RMA, otherwise you'll have to spend an extra half hour working out how to cancel the RMA (answer: email [email protected] with your RMA number, serial number and case reference).
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That's how mine started, but got worse. I only charge my tablet once a day and the charger is unplugged from the outlet between charges. Now I can't get it to charge. Every now and then if i unplug it and plug it back in, it'll boot up the TF but then the second the boot animation is over, makes the battery low chime, 0% remaining and shuts off!
Just got off the phone with asus tech support, they gave me an RMA number and i have to mail the charger to them to see if they can repair it.... whats up with that? why can't they just mail me a new one and i mail them back this broken one or get billed for it like every other tech company i've dealt with?
I've had the exact same issues as both of you. At first if it wouldn't charge I would leave it for a few mins and then it would charge straight away. It slowly got word and I had to fight with it more to get it to charge and now it will only trickle charge.
I will charge it up overnight tonight and leave it for six hours or more. Hopefully this will work until I can send it back.
(I'm not sure if i have mentioned this somewhere but my charger model number is 0B-1LF)
So I got an rma to send my charger to asus but I think I narrowed it down to the cable and not the charger. I tried my dad's charger and it works with that. Then I tried my cable on my dad's charger and no go, only trickle (5v) charge. Then tried my dad's usb cable on my charger and it worked. So I think it has something to do with the cable not telling the charger it needs 15v.
Going to call asus back tomorrow and see if they'll
Send me another cable.
asus rant: how come I have to pay to mail out my defective part and be without it while they repair or replace it? Every other company I've dealt with would send me the replacement and I would have to mail back the defective unit (using a prepaid label included) or be billed for it.
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fone_fanatic said:
So I got an rma to send my charger to asus but I think I narrowed it down to the cable and not the charger. I tried my dad's charger and it works with that. Then I tried my cable on my dad's charger and no go, only trickle (5v) charge. Then tried my dad's usb cable on my charger and it worked. So I think it has something to do with the cable not telling the charger it needs 15v.
Going to call asus back tomorrow and see if they'll
Send me another cable.
asus rant: how come I have to pay to mail out my defective part and be without it while they repair or replace it? Every other company I've dealt with would send me the replacement and I would have to mail back the defective unit (using a prepaid label included) or be billed for it.
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Maybe its my cable too, unfortunately I don't have another brick to try it on. Will have to just wait and see.

Wireless Charger Issue

I recently purchased a Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate for my Lumia 920, but unfortunately something seems to be going wrong. I tried it the other night, put my phone on the charging plate, the light came on solid and the phone showed it was charging. Woke up the next morning and it hadn't charged at all, the battery went from 80%+ to about 62%. I tried various different "solutions" yesterday with no luck.
Restarted my Lumia 920 several times.
Unplugged the charger and tried a different outlet.
Shifted my phone around trying various positions.
Double checked that it still charges on a regular wired charger (works).
Doesn't seem to matter what I try, it just wont work, even though both the phone and the charger say it's charging. Unfortunately, I don't currently have access to another wireless charger or another wireless charging capable device. I'm hoping to get into AT&T this weekend and see if they have wireless chargers to test with. Does anyone have any other ideas or tips to resolve the issue, or know which one in this scenario most likely has the problem? I really hope it's not the phone. :/
It's really not picky as to where you place the phone on the charger plate. It does sound like a hardware issue. Could be the plate or the phone either one. Good luck on getting it resolved.
I've had that happen. I usually do the soft-reset with Vol-Down & Power, then connect to wired charging. It's some strange state that it seems to get into occasionally.
jblanken64 said:
I've had that happen. I usually do the soft-reset with Vol-Down & Power, then connect to wired charging. It's some strange state that it seems to get into occasionally.
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So after you do the soft-reset, and you plug into a wired charger, do you switch to the wireless charger, or wait till later in the day or anything?
orionl said:
I recently purchased a Nokia DT-900 Wireless Charging Plate for my Lumia 920, but unfortunately something seems to be going wrong. I tried it the other night, put my phone on the charging plate, the light came on solid and the phone showed it was charging. Woke up the next morning and it hadn't charged at all, the battery went from 80%+ to about 62%. I tried various different "solutions" yesterday with no luck.
Restarted my Lumia 920 several times.
Unplugged the charger and tried a different outlet.
Shifted my phone around trying various positions.
Double checked that it still charges on a regular wired charger (works).
Doesn't seem to matter what I try, it just wont work, even though both the phone and the charger say it's charging. Unfortunately, I don't currently have access to another wireless charger or another wireless charging capable device. I'm hoping to get into AT&T this weekend and see if they have wireless chargers to test with. Does anyone have any other ideas or tips to resolve the issue, or know which one in this scenario most likely has the problem? I really hope it's not the phone. :/
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I too had this problem after getting a replacement for my speaker not working, and didn't get the wireless charging issue until my fourteen day
exchange policy was up. So I actually separated my phone to have a look. At the top if the wireless charging coil there are gold contacts that can become loose if the phone is rocked heavily, either dropped or in my case, while still in my pocket at work. I actually very carefully and slightly bent those contacts up towards the phone, then replaced it in the housing. Once I did, I tested to see if the wireless charging worked before putting the screws back in. If all else fails, I'd give that a try bud.
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orionl said:
So after you do the soft-reset, and you plug into a wired charger, do you switch to the wireless charger, or wait till later in the day or anything?
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I usually just let it charge for a while on the wired charger, then use wireless sometime later. Once it gets out of the reset loop, I think any charger will work.
My replacement from Amazon arrived today, and unfortunately still no luck with getting my phone to charge. So I'll test out fixing the coil over the weekend.
IronMan1289 said:
I too had this problem after getting a replacement for my speaker not working, and didn't get the wireless charging issue until my fourteen day
exchange policy was up. So I actually separated my phone to have a look. At the top if the wireless charging coil there are gold contacts that can become loose if the phone is rocked heavily, either dropped or in my case, while still in my pocket at work. I actually very carefully and slightly bent those contacts up towards the phone, then replaced it in the housing. Once I did, I tested to see if the wireless charging worked before putting the screws back in. If all else fails, I'd give that a try bud.
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So I opened my Lumia 920 up today, and unfortunately it looks like two of the 4 little gold contacts are missing. I've got all 4 primary pieces, but only 2 of the actual contacts. I've got a feeling that that's what caused the issue. Think I'll try to send it in for a replacement.

Magnetic Chargers

I've been looking for a charger that attaches to the side dock on the Z2. I bought one on EBay very cheap but the charging from seems to connect then disconnect all the time. I guess that's what I get for buying a cheap unit. Is there a good one that will charge the Z2 properly? I'm sure the flap to the micro usb is going to come off sooner or later so I'd rather use the magnetic one.
I too am looking for this. What eBay one did you buy? Don't want to accidentally buy a cheap one..
Ljungan said:
I too am looking for this. What eBay one did you buy? Don't want to accidentally buy a cheap one..
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It was one that said "black magnetic adapter charger" from the UK it was only £2.95.
I'm happy with 'kwmobile' charger bought on amazon.de, especially I like the fact that magnet is not too strong therefore I don't have a fear that magnetic port will fall out. I hope so ... :fingers-crossed:
sarobi said:
I'm happy with 'kwmobile' charger bought on amazon.de, especially I like the fact that magnet is not too strong therefore I don't have a fear that magnetic port will fall out. I hope so ... :fingers-crossed:
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I bought a dirt cheap one from ebay too, works fine although the magnets aren't very strong so the amount of time I spend fiddling to get it to latch on I may as well use a micro usb!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JEMESHG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Best I've come across, a bit more expensive though.
It fits very snugly over the charging port, so if you use case this cable might not go well with it.
I just recently bought a z2, came with a knock off dock.
Doesn't anyone have a good free alarm clock app thatll stay dimly lit all night and work as a bedside clock.
Thanks
kylecummins said:
I just recently bought a z2, came with a knock off dock.
Doesn't anyone have a good free alarm clock app thatll stay dimly lit all night and work as a bedside clock.
Thanks
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Gentle Alarm will, it isn't free, but it's worth the cost.
Goldfire said:
Gentle Alarm will, it isn't free, but it's worth the cost.
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I've heard that, I got a free app called timely and it works great, with smart connect it automatically goes into silent + opens timely when I dock.
Word of warning with magnetic chargers, don't be stupid like me and turn the charger the other way around to see if it connects better, you will end up shorting something inside your phone and you will have to RMA your device
kylecummins said:
I just recently bought a z2, came with a knock off dock.
Doesn't anyone have a good free alarm clock app thatll stay dimly lit all night and work as a bedside clock.
Thanks
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The aosp default works well. Also available as clock+.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731066
eViLSt3ve said:
Word of warning with magnetic chargers, don't be stupid like me and turn the charger the other way around to see if it connects better, you will end up shorting something inside your phone and you will have to RMA your device
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I have a magnetic charging cable and did this drunkly one night, woke up to find the phone turned off and SUPER HOT. Like almost burning point, freaking out I quickly removed the cable and tried turning it on but it wouldn't power up.
After 2 minutes of having a mild heart-attack I used my USB charging cable and connected it once it cooled down and within a minute it powered back up and started charging. After a few minutes of doing this I booted up the phone and the battery was on 1%
Won't be doing that again haha :silly:
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I have a magnetic charging cable and did this drunkly one night, woke up to find the phone turned off and SUPER HOT. Like almost burning point, freaking out I quickly removed the cable and tried turning it on but it wouldn't power up.
After 2 minutes of having a mild heart-attack I used my USB charging cable and connected it once it cooled down and within a minute it powered back up and started charging. After a few minutes of doing this I booted up the phone and the battery was on 1%
Won't be doing that again haha :silly:
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The same happened to me but after when i attempted to charge via the USB from PC or magnetic charging points the phone kept going into an odd loop of trying to charge itself and failing, i had to restore my TA and relock my phone and RMA it, will get a new one in a few days and i won't ever be doing that stupidness again
eViLSt3ve said:
Word of warning with magnetic chargers, don't be stupid like me and turn the charger the other way around to see if it connects better, you will end up shorting something inside your phone and you will have to RMA your device
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wow...thanks for the advice...
as far as magnetic chargers I too bought the magnector x... it should be coming in the mail soon... expensive but i hope its worth it
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eViLSt3ve said:
Word of warning with magnetic chargers, don't be stupid like me and turn the charger the other way around to see if it connects better, you will end up shorting something inside your phone and you will have to RMA your device
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Wait What?
You CAN put it the wrong way?
One side is clearly bigger and iirc the charger doesnt fit the wrong size!
Haldi4803 said:
Wait What?
You CAN put it the wrong way?
One side is clearly bigger and iirc the charger doesnt fit the wrong size!
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Trust me you can
Dock clock is my second favorite bedside clock and the one that I use(my favorite is Motorola's but it only works on their stock ROMS-they probably dropped it from their newer phones/firmwares as they did with everything else they did better then everyone else).
drknezz said:
I have a magnetic charging cable and did this drunkly one night, woke up to find the phone turned off and SUPER HOT. Like almost burning point, freaking out I quickly removed the cable and tried turning it on but it wouldn't power up.
After 2 minutes of having a mild heart-attack I used my USB charging cable and connected it once it cooled down and within a minute it powered back up and started charging. After a few minutes of doing this I booted up the phone and the battery was on 1%
Won't be doing that again haha :silly:
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Mine does that when putting it the correct way without every putting it the wrong way. It also does the start/stop charging like the OP, hopefully he doesn't have the same problem as me.
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upon close inspection, the charging pins on the magnetic charging port are different in size to prevent plugging it backwards.
for those of you who were able to plug it in backwards, is the magnetic charger a sony accessory? or aftermarket?
I bought the magnector x and holy moly does it charge fast...and the connection is solid and it snaps in place with ease...magnet very strong...only problem is it doesn't work with my roxfit gel shell case even though it has the cutout for the magnetic port...so either I stick with using my cheap Chinese made magnetic charger that doesn't always make a solid connection and charges rather slow but works with my case or buy the case-mate barely there case which is the only other case I can see that would work with the magnector x...
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Magnetic chargin problem.

Hello,
One day my tab stopped charging from the magnetic cable.
Whenever i plug-in, i get a blinking light and the battery light on status-bar goes on and off, ultimately not charging. The cable still charges my Z1.
Factory reset didn't help either.
Sometimes it hapens to me too.
My conclusion is that it is a matter of bad contact between tablet and the magnetic connector.
Cleaned up the connector with alcohol. Thankfully it's still under warranty.
Sony RMA the device and gave me a new one. Old one was 16gb , this one is 32gb. Win - win
The problem returns with the new device! Took it around 2 weeks but this tab stopped charging aswell, over the magnetic interface.
Wth is going on.
I never had this issue with the original Sony charging cradle, but I noticed it when charging via cable using a smartphone charger. If the charger does not have at least 250 mA, it goes on and off. Is your magnetic charger an original Sony device?
Well after two weeks the issue reappeared. Dont know if the power is sufficient or not, but then how come it worked with original device AND replacement device.
I know this forum is probably dead a long time ago (years?), but ill take a shot and ask a supplementary question.
The Sony service denies fixing my tablet, citing the cause of problem the non-Sony magnetic cable as the fault.
Ive been using the magnetic cable on my Z1 phone for almost 2 years now with no issues. I dont understand how the cable can **** up the Tablet.
Are they legally valid not to repair my device free of charge (its within the warranty period) ?
BLiapis said:
I know this forum is probably dead a long time ago (years?), but ill take a shot and ask a supplementary question.
The Sony service denies fixing my tablet, citing the cause of problem the non-Sony magnetic cable as the fault.
Ive been using the magnetic cable on my Z1 phone for almost 2 years now with no issues. I dont understand how the cable can **** up the Tablet.
Are they legally valid not to repair my device free of charge (its within the warranty period) ?
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I wouldn't have told them I was using a different cable, but yeah they can deny service. Technically, they have to prove that your aftermarket device loosened the port, but I'm sure they've tested it at this point since so many people had the same issue. On the other hand, this also compromises the waterproof ratings.
The issue is the port gets hot and the adhesive weakens. Aftermarket magnetic docks have stronger magnets that yank the charging port right out. Honestly it's a stupid design defect and there should have been more than adhesive, you can try that task with customer service.
You can remove the magnetic charging port and replace the small adhesive strip with a suitable thin high temp doublestick adhesive. I've considered epoxy as well but haven't pulled the trigger. In the mean time, know that the magnet unseats the port on the device and it must be pushed back in.
Hi, my Tab never got a loosed port. When i connect it, it starts blinking red, not charging.
When i drove there to pick up my un-repaired tablet back, along with the cable i gave them, they delivered the cable without a magnet.
After a long verbal fight, denying that the cable was ever send to them in its nominal form (with the magnet), they finally gave in and gave me an official Sony cable (i know , too late, eh?)/.
Truth be told, the Sony magnetic cable is SLIGHTLY different.
For example, i can charge my Z1 phone while wearing a silicon sleeve-case with the an-official magnetic cable, but with the Sony one, there is no clearance.
Also, a very important difference is, the old magnetic cable would convey the charge from any power source (like any type of Ambers charger, for example the usb port, or a less strong (less Ambers) sony charger.
The official magnetic cable, work almost only with the Z2 tablet charger. For example, it wont charge my Z1 over the USB PC port like the old one did.
Can anyone exaplin this, since i just cant see any extra type of filter or dunnowhat present on cable.

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