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I am wondering, is the Xperia S really worth it with an S3 processor? I mean there will be more flagships later on in the year with S4. But what is so much better about this new processor and should I wait for phones with it or get the Xperia S?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584736
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597629
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549315
I saw those, but am not looking at comparing with other phones, just want to know about the processor in general, will it be outdated soon?
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I saw those, but am not looking at comparing with other phones, just want to know about the processor in general, will it be outdated soon?
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Yes. That is the nature of technology. The S4 will be outdated soon. As I always say, if you wait for 'the best' phone, you will wait forever.
If you used search, you would also see there's a thread about the S4 Hayabusa.
I can't be bothered to link the thread because I'm not google, but it's only rumors at the moment.
Of course better phones will be made later on in the year...that's how it always is. Like how it always is, if you keep waiting for phones you will never get one, because something better will be down the road...A phone is outdated within like...less than 4 months now with tech advances?
The S does it for me, if you want a comparison between the S3 and the S4, you can find it online.
Asking if the Xperia S is worth it, in the S thread isn't the best idea because well...we are all proud owners of the phone. I love the S, to me it's the phone to watch for this year, especially when ICS rolls out.
I agree that you end up waiting forever to keep up with tech, but I just feel like the S2 is a year old and had the same tech and the Xperia S. Sure you can never keep up with how technology moves but at least if the manufactures were releasing up to date hardware it would last that bit longer.
As for asking within the XS thread, I'd hope even if you love the phone you could still give some objective advice...
The extra speed is the main benefit of course, as every1 uses their smart phone slightly different no1 can really answer that for you, so what benefits do you think you will get waiting for the S4 processor?
The XPS S3 is plenty fast enough in my opinion, the phone plays smooth 1080p video in the browser... thats fast and not many phones/tablets can do that. The S4 will have the same ability so zero benefit there.
All games run smooth and will for yrs to come with the XPS same as when the S4 comes out so zero benefit there.
The XPS has a super fast high quality camera, the next phones might come out with a sub par camera so u might loose more benefit there and will have waited for nothing.
XPS is a great media player in general probably the same as the S4 when it comes so zero benefit again there.
Technical details you can find via the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
If you want S4 right now tho it's in the HTC One S.
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No such thing as an outdated processor these days on any platform as 99% of software and games will be coded for the majority of all phones.
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Yea, I believe you would have to fight to see the difference between the two...things even ran decently smooth on my X10 to be honest, and that was only an S1 .
Currently my S doesn't lag at all, its actually butter smooth, and I don't get any skipping or any kind of app lag. I guess it comes down to how you use the phone, and well...if you are a spec junkie. If you want an S4 right now, you have to get the One S (as SMC said), which isn't much of an upgrade (besides S4 and ICS, there's no plus) and at least in my opinion a huge downgrade in aesthetics and the camera.
I really think the difference between the S3 and S4 won't be visible...unless you are a spec-junkie and want to get top benchmarks at all times (which may be the only time you will see a difference, i think). I honestly don't think it will bring more (noticeably) to the table than you already get with S3.
Keeping it neutral enough?
I think S5 will be faster than S4.
I've benchmarked my XPS vs. one of my friends' One S. The difference in the benchmarks is noticeable, but I felt like everything on the XPS was smoother in general. It might be Sense 4 though. But again, and the camera on the One S is laaaaame, and the screen is not that great.
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I think S5 will be faster than S4.
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But not as fast as the M3.
Wait, cars or phones?
Okay I think I will keep it
See I won the Xperia S in the twitter competition and contemplating keeping my arc and selling it and waiting for the Hayabusa, but after seeing how much ebay steals off the final selling price. I never thought I would be using my arc as a back up phone less then a year after getting it (I normally upgrade every 2-3 years)
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I think S5 will be faster than S4.
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S5 will be twice as fast but if you hold it wrong its slower.
S3 is 40 nm and S4 is 28 nm. It's faster, cooler and more power efficient. But it's not worth another 100 € (One S).
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S3 is 40 nm and S4 is 28 nm. It's faster, cooler and more power efficient. But it's not worth another 100 € (One S).
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Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
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Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
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very helpful information thanks
Also, the Xperia S films 1080p movies @ 60fps while the HTC One only do 30fps.
RiotRick said:
Ok.... xperia s vs one s vs one x (s3/s4/tegra 3). I did that too, still I bought the Xperia S? Why?
One S / One X - faster CPU. XPS fast enough for a phone.
XPS / One S - Size is good, One X - too big
One S - qHD pentile display. XPS / One X great 720p displays
One S 16GB (too little for me). One X / XPS 32GB (enough)
Camera is good in all 3, altough XPS is probably best quality pics + dedicated camera button. OneS/X have nicer software interface
ICS All 3 will have it in a few weeks. No real issue to wait a little bit for it.
All of these phones have there stronger and weaker point. In the end you have to decide what you find most important. The CPU is only just one thing, for me definately not the most important. Granted you need a certain baseline speed for a phone to have it operate smoothly. But the S3 in the XPS has plenty of speed. Heck even the 1GHz single core S2 in the Desire HD still performs pretty nice on the resolution that phone has. S3 is the xps is a lot faster than that. It will serve me just fine the coming period.
I wanted to buy a phone that was in the 4" - 4.3" inch range, with a good 720p display, 32GB (or microsd slot), a decent camera and fast enough to operate smoothly. XPS suits that best, I also really like the design of it.
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Pretty much sums up why I love my Xperia S
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Also, the Xperia S films 1080p movies @ 60fps while the HTC One only do 30fps.
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You are wrong here. The Xperia S cannot record 60fps 1080p video. Only some of their camcorders are able to do this.
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You are wrong here. The Xperia S cannot record 60fps 1080p video. Only some of their camcorders are able to do this.
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It can, just needs a small media profiles change.
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Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?
Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.
depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).
had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666638
The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...
Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.
Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)
I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Like Sony said, difference is in detail, Sony detail
Im coming off of contract soon, and thinking about getting the ONE max. I was wondering how you guys feel about it after owing it for sometime? Im coming from a Verizon Moto X dev. Edition, how much of a shock ( if any ) will I be in with the One max?
Thanks.
I have a note 2 that was incredible. Ran a debloated Rom and got good battery life and excellent stability. Didn't think I would ever part with it. I saw a local craigslist ad for someone that had a factory unlocked for an incredible price so I picked it up. So far it is ok. I like the front facing speakers. Sense takes a bit to get used to. It's pretty smooth and responsive. I rooted and installed custom recovery. Still on stock factory but began debloating myself and it's smooth. There aren't many available Roms but the couple there are seem that they could have potential. I will get around to installing them and making a judgement. Good luck.
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Yeah I'm a phone person who swaps phones every few months and sometimes even weeks. So having experience with phones such as the Note 3, G2 and other Android devices, the HTC One Max is right up there with them. The only downfall I can say is the camera. It isn't horrible but I'm not a fan of the Ultra pixels. Other than that I am rooted and running a custom rom and recovery and have Cleanrom installed. Battery is a beast and very responsive.
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I bought my One Max with one main objective: Combine the uses I have for my Acer Iconia 10" tablet and HTC Droid Incredible 2 smartphone into one device.
I watch a lot of movies, read a lot of ebooks, and of course talk, text, email. The screen on the one max while a lot smaller than the one on my Icoina is very sharp and clear and being able to play 1080p movies more than makes up for the smaller screen size. For reading ebooks, I just up the font size some and I am still good to go.
Having a screen that is about 2 inches larger than the Incredible 2 makes texting / email, easier, and the google voice talk to text works very well.
The battery life on this thing is incredible. My day starts at 10:30pm and I go to bed around 3:30pm so with 17 hours of the above listed use (and yes I normally watch at least one movie a day) I still have around 28% battery life left when I put it back on the charger.
If I had one gripe, it would be as memtioned earlier, the camera, but then again, this is not a $1200 SLR digital camera. The camera takes decent enough shots, but if you are looking for a good camera that also happens to make phone calls, is able to send / receive text and emails, and can connect to the internet, you may want to look elsewhere, but for the normal photos most of us make, it does not do a bad job of it.
All in all, for me at least, it was a great decision to get a one max and it has met all the goals/expectations I have had for it.
Thanks guys.
I came from using a htc one and a Xperia z ultra. I do miss the Xperia z ultra do wish I held out and got the Xperia z2 though. Its a great phone. Speakers are the best on a current phone. Only things I don't like is the non tablet options. Say being able to view home screen horizontally. Etc. Bit again I am someone who regularly changes phones
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I am an advantage club member and got run through the ringer with the g2 I bought. Sprint has agreed to swap out under the 14 day return for any device including the M8 but I will have to wait for it to be available to us
Do I get the one max now, or wait for the M8?
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I am an advantage club member and got run through the ringer with the g2 I bought. Sprint has agreed to swap out under the 14 day return for any device including the M8 but I will have to wait for it to be available to us
Do I get the one max now, or wait for the M8?
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That just depends on your size preference. Obviously the m8 has a lot better hardware but personally I prefer the larger screen. This phone is also plenty fast, has a bigger battery, and a fingerprint scanner.
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That just depends on your size preference. Obviously the m8 has a lot better hardware but personally I prefer the larger screen. This phone is also plenty fast, has a bigger battery, and a fingerprint scanner.
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This. The M8 would be a great device but the screen size just isn't adequate. Not worth the screen compromise for the better specs IMO.
I came from note 3 and will be sticking with one max
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Came from a note 2 then 3 and love my max more than I've ever loved a phone . And it keeps getting better
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Two problems
1st coming off the Samsung galaxy I had gotten used to being able to search the web while I'm on the phone WITHOUT wifi. That can't be done with the HTC ONE MAX.
2nd The silver strip covering the speaker started coming off, and now it has bent. I have been trying to find a replacement one but was only able to find it for the HTC ONE.
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1st coming off the Samsung galaxy I had gotten used to being able to search the web while I'm on the phone WITHOUT wifi. That can't be done with the HTC ONE MAX.
2nd The silver strip covering the speaker started coming off, and now it has bent. I have been trying to find a replacement one but was only able to find it for the HTC ONE.
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I search the web all the time while I'm on the phone, no wifi
Bump one last time. Im going to Verizon to swap out here soon within the next week. Thanks guys!!
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Bump one last time. Im going to Verizon to swap out here soon within the next week. Thanks guys!!
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Well, I could talk all day about this, but I won't. I'll just say I've had a LOT of phones, everything from PocketPC's from way way back to iPhones to the Galaxy Note 3 and the HTC One Max is my most favorite so far. Great great phone. Big big phone but it actually feels better in the pocket than the squarish Galaxy Note 3. I'm very happy with my One Max. You'll love it!
coming from note 3
this one max is great
the only thing i hate the only 16 gb storage
sound is great
built is great
display is great but not like note 3 .note 3 is more powerful
speed is great
need more roms for my international one max
i love this monster
Go with Note 3, its better. But I am keeping my One Max just because of the speakers and because it is drop dead gorgeous (got the red one).
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I own One Max.. With bigger screen 5.9" just good enough when it comes to Waze or any gps tracking apps.. very handy and good specs.. not too big, not too small.. just nice..
Coming from the Note 3. Its a gorgeous device. Am keeping it cause the unmatched audio quality. By the way here in KE everyone owns a Galaxy device. With the One Max, you set your own niche
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The Specs of the One Max are not as fast as the Note 3 or the new HTC One (M8).
With that said, the HTC One Max has a bigger battery and screen.
While I was disappointed that the specs were not as good as the above mentioned phone, from experience I can say that the phone is fast enough, without needing to overclock to do everything you need it to do. The only area you would even consider overclocking is to improve performance when playing high demanding 3D games. Even then, what good is more power if the battery dies faster?
Combine this with HTC's powerflip case for an extra 2,000mAH worth of battery capacity and you have one of the most well balanced phones you can get right now.
Everyone always say "I don't know if I want a phone with a screen that large" but once you try it and downgrade to a smaller screen again you do feel the disappointment which means you enjoy having a bigger screen.
Anyone could be happy with this for 1-2 years.
But if you want the best specs, the Note 3 is better, and the HTC One M8 is better in terms of specs also but not as large a screen. I'd highly suggest playing around with the phones in the store before making a decision, because personally I hated Samsung's version of Android (Note 3).
Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
Mine too is really slow. Seems a bit more responsive while charging...
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Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
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HiCfager;63067557
Exactly the same for me also coming from a S6, maybe with 3gb ram S6 better?
Uninstalled AVG and some google stuff and a bit quicker? maybe AVG?
Don't really see if it slow. Few apps on the same time using gps and wifi/mobile data like Endomondo, OruxMaps, Here + YouTube and switching between them is without problems.
But starting apps - I agree - isn't that fast. The camera starts very slow, slower than Samsung S3 i9300 or Samsung A5.
Mine takes about 2 second (locked screen, holding camera button). I uninstalled most of bloat and disabled camera apps.
indeed it is bit laggy compared to z3compact - i can hope it will be fixed in the next software update
Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
Hell no! Is is rather compared to Z3c Ui performance It can be slow while restoring apps and I hope this was thenissue on that video.
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Slower than my z3c. Might as will stick with my z3c than.
Can't believe this is the case, must be true if many of you are witnessing this considering this is not even available to the masses yet.
Disappointed top say the least
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Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
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After changing the home screen app to Nova luncher it's better.
But some stumbles a micro-twitches are visible on longer lists (30 elements - 4 full screens of scrolling).
The most problematic list is the list of widgets - the lag is very visible.
I've recorded the screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATep4o83tM
It seems that it haven't influenced the efficiency of device.
on 00:10 there is scrolling and the comparition to status bar opening.
on 01:03 is scrolling in gReader
Just saw the YouTube video from above
That's drasticly slow
I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
Well I wanted a compact..... I live in the USA. When they were announced I was disappointed with the build quality but still wanted a yellow or white one. Since I have to import it, I come to learn yellow and white are carrier exclusives and not available unlocked. I ordered a normal Green Xperia Z5 instead. I'm coming from a Note Edge, the screen size will be a lot less of a change than going to a compact. I've been still debating cancelling the Z5 and getting a compact. This slowdown might be the final nail in the coffin for the compact for me. Hopefully the extra gig of ram in the Z5 helps it fare better. I really don't want the z5 compact to do bad, I want all Sony phones to sell well, as I like the Xperia brand and Sony needs a win.
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I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
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Well I am going to wait for the Amazon release (I mean dispatched by Amazon). (I've pre ordered it in Amazon.it with shipping to Spain).
So If I have some kind of problem...I could return it easily and wait more time for a (potential) new revision of this phone.
But two things:
1) A lot of common issues (I'm seeing on the web) could be fixed with a software update.
2) There is no Z5 compact replacement. The only good alternative is the Z3 compact, which is a hi-end 2014 Phone with probably 1-2 years more of Android updates, and (at least where I am living) there is no big difference in price. (I'm currently using a Nexus 5 2013 and I can't stand this size anymore, I want something smaller, comfortable in one hand, like my old Galaxy Nexus, and the Z5 compact is the only one with similar size).
I am wondering what to do as well. I have a z3 compact now, with the ill famed spontaneous cracked back (it happened while I held it in my hand) and really wanted the,z5 compact. But should I pay so much money for a new flagship that's slower than my 1 year old phone?
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Mine is getting delivered. I might return before opening.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/ultimate-fixes-battery-lag-camera-t3241173
solution...
I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
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I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
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Slow like the video or just opening apps?
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I think if you havent started it for a while it takes longer, like 3-4 seconds. Once its been started once, from the home screen it takes about 1-2 seconds. I think starting with the camera button while locked adds like 2 seconds.
Say the http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/?
I already ordered this the Xaomi 3 Pro and i'm super excited about the battery life now that i'm doing way more mobile games. Curious about the screen, the feel of the phone and just the price wow.
But i'm currently using the Z5 compact and i'm also somewhat satisfied with that. Espialli the pictures!
Is there anyone who knows both devices?
I mean i understand ill be trading in some high specs, but can anyone tell me by how much?
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Say the http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/?
I already ordered this the Xaomi 3 Pro and i'm super excited about the battery life now that i'm doing way more mobile games. Curious about the screen, the feel of the phone and just the price wow.
But i'm currently using the Z5 compact and i'm also somewhat satisfied with that. Espialli the pictures!
Is there anyone who knows both devices?
I mean i understand ill be trading in some high specs, but can anyone tell me by how much?
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Totally different devices. Redmi 3 (any version) is budget device while Z5 (also compact) is premium model. Not comparable
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Totally different devices. Redmi 3 (any version) is budget device while Z5 (also compact) is premium model. Not comparable
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Well not really.. redmi 3 offers some high specs compared to his price... it's just the price.
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Well not really.. redmi 3 offers some high specs compared to his price... it's just the price.
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I stand behind my answer. Redmi 3 is not bad device, but it is budget device in all aspects. Not comparable with Z line from Sony
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Say the http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/?
I already ordered this the Xaomi 3 Pro and i'm super excited about the battery life now that i'm doing way more mobile games. Curious about the screen, the feel of the phone and just the price wow.
But i'm currently using the Z5 compact and i'm also somewhat satisfied with that. Espialli the pictures!
Is there anyone who knows both devices?
I mean i understand ill be trading in some high specs, but can anyone tell me by how much?
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Man, as others are saying R3 isn't comparable to Z5 Compact. R3 is budget friendly offering, while Z5 compact is high-end.
If you still wanna compare, let's see.
SoC - R3 Pro has SD616, while Z5 C has SD810. You know, 800 series of SD is high-end, while 600 is mid-end. Both are octa-cores, but Z5 has four A53 & four A57, while R3 Pro has all A53s. Also, clockspeed is low in R3 Pro.
RAM - R3 Pro has 3GB, but Z5 has 2GB. R3 won. Doesn't matter unless you do hard multi-tasking.
GPU - Adreno 430 in Z5, Adreno 405 in R3. Slightly better in case of Z5.
Camera - Z5 has a lot better camera. Although specs may seem same, but quality is better in Z5.
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Man, as others are saying R3 isn't comparable to Z5 Compact. R3 is budget friendly offering, while Z5 compact is high-end.
If you still wanna compare, let's see.
SoC - R3 Pro has SD616, while Z5 C has SD810. You know, 800 series of SD is high-end, while 600 is mid-end. Both are octa-cores, but Z5 has four A53 & four A57, while R3 Pro has all A53s. Also, clockspeed is low in R3 Pro.
RAM - R3 Pro has 3GB, but Z5 has 2GB. R3 won. Doesn't matter unless you do hard multi-tasking.
GPU - Adreno 430 in Z5, Adreno 405 in R3. Slightly better in case of Z5.
Camera - Z5 has a lot better camera. Although specs may seem same, but quality is better in Z5.
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Thank you for taking the time to respond! I realize that the Sony is better in almost every way, but what i'm honestly looking for is someone who has experienced both? The sony, owning it myself is not in my eyes a flagship, its above average. Sure it has a 820, but the most current fw is not the fastest it could be, this compared to my girlfriends Wileyswift Fox, a uk based phone maker, also a great value/cost device in my mind.
Camera, sure it takes great photos, but its sluggish in starting up, or taking rapid photos. And i'm not a big photo maker anyhow, occasional photo of my nieces or my dog or my girlfriend. So I don't really need THE GREATEST photos. You know?
So in that sense i'm very curious about this phone. If its comparable to the Fox one i'm going to be damn excited coupled with the 4100 battery. I am playing more games lately and i have been needing a powerbank. So thats would be a big up for me. How is the heat when it charges does anyone know?
Also curious about ROM support. From what i have read there appears to be some good support seeing as this is out longer then the 3S Pro. Only really read up on that device AFTER ordering the 3 Pro. Anyhow, couple of roms that I noticed were looking good.
About the GPU, how much is the Sony better? I maily do 2d games and have yet to find a 3d one that will make me comftorbale with touch input. I did also order a gamepad for phones, but that will be maily used for emulators and the like.
Thanks for all the input.
All say redmi is budget.
I'd be happy with the redmi over any other phone to be honest not even taking price into consideration.
As far as hardware for money it is OP
As far as android it self, it may not be perfect but it's damn near close.
Almost bought a galaxy edge, but now I don't have a reason too.
It looks like redmi 3s is waterproof too http://youtu.be/s1i9R8qoD9U
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Thank you for taking the time to respond! I realize that the Sony is better in almost every way, but what i'm honestly looking for is someone who has experienced both? The sony, owning it myself is not in my eyes a flagship, its above average. Sure it has a 820, but the most current fw is not the fastest it could be, this compared to my girlfriends Wileyswift Fox, a uk based phone maker, also a great value/cost device in my mind.
Camera, sure it takes great photos, but its sluggish in starting up, or taking rapid photos. And i'm not a big photo maker anyhow, occasional photo of my nieces or my dog or my girlfriend. So I don't really need THE GREATEST photos. You know?
So in that sense i'm very curious about this phone. If its comparable to the Fox one i'm going to be damn excited coupled with the 4100 battery. I am playing more games lately and i have been needing a powerbank. So thats would be a big up for me. How is the heat when it charges does anyone know?
Also curious about ROM support. From what i have read there appears to be some good support seeing as this is out longer then the 3S Pro. Only really read up on that device AFTER ordering the 3 Pro. Anyhow, couple of roms that I noticed were looking good.
About the GPU, how much is the Sony better? I maily do 2d games and have yet to find a 3d one that will make me comftorbale with touch input. I did also order a gamepad for phones, but that will be maily used for emulators and the like.
Thanks for all the input.
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About all the stuff you've written and asked, I would like to answer it in simple way -
You won't notice any much performance difference between the two phones. Forget SoC, forget RAM. If you need better camera go for Xperia Z5 P, if you need just a camera which takes grainy and noisy pictures indoors, go for Redmi 3 Pro. You can see, my only concern is camera. But wait, MIUI seems terrible to some users, some love it. While Xperia's UI is admired my many users, as it's closer to stock. Well, you're on XDA, so you might install a custom ROM. I hope, you got the idea. BTW, if I was you I would not spend 320$~ on Z5, as it really is overpriced. You can easily get Oneplus 3 or G4 Plus by adding more amount, if you don't care about big screen.
I've recently owned the z5c, z3c, lg g3, moto x play, z3 and now the redmi 3 pro. I prefer the redmi 3 pro. It's great value, performs well, has good mic and sound, amazing battery life, and runs very smooth. Not running marshmallow but it suits my needs. Runs everything perfectly. Provided it supports the band you need i don't think others are worth the excessive price. Z5c was not performing well, had poor battery life, and my call audio echoes. The only gripe with the r3p is the camera isn't the best.