Can you make an apk dissapear from batt stat ? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi forum.
Just a little question, as we have some new strange problems with an APK...
Is it in anyway opssible to make a APK dissapear from the battery status/usage page ?
- or perhaps to make it look like it is an other piece of software that is using the power ? (eg. look like Android-OS or screen instead)
I have no interrest in doing that, it is just a question that was raised in a disscussion among friends, and we canĀ“t seem to find the answer on www...

if the app is running as root then yes it is possible.. and this is being done by some you know what type of apps

simmer14 said:
if the app is running as root then yes it is possible.. and this is being done by some you know what type of apps
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Phones have no root access anything like that, it is a company software that log GPS location, hours used at a costumer and so on...
The software have earlyer used a LOT of battery, about 70% actually !!!
- now the developer have made an update, and now the usage is under 1-2% (fantastic improvement:good, but it seems like "Android-OS" is using a lot of power instead now...
That just made us speculate if it was possible to "mask up" or "hide" the actual usage ?!?
It seems like the phones have not really gained that mutch more battery after the update, i feels like the usage is somehow still the same as earlyer, and that is really strange we think...

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A possible (!) reason of high Android OS/battery draining(Need feedback!)

Hello,
I just installed Android Booster FREE. It's an app that allows you to see what apps are draining the most.
And I maybe found a reason of high OS usage.
On my phone the top 1 draining app is MTP Application(with 36%). Since it's an Android app(package name: "com.android.MtpApplication), it'll be counted in Android OS and is indeed listed.
Could anyone please try and verify this on their own phones? To see app specific usage, install with link above, open it ->Utilities -> Power Manager -> Applications.
Sorry if this isn't the reason or if it's only on my phone. But I don't think so. And it would be a good reason since MTP application is Samsung-specific. My firmware: XKE2.
Please let me know! Thanks!
And please don't vote if you have frozen your apps !
EleCtrOx666 said:
Hello,
I just installed Android Booster FREE. It's an app that allows you to see what apps are draining the most.
And I maybe found a reason of high OS usage.
On my phone the top 1 draining app is MTP Application(with 36%). Since it's an Android app(package name: "com.android.MtpApplication), it'll be counted in Android OS and is indeed listed.
Could anyone please try and verify this on their own phones? To see app specific usage, install with link above, open it ->Utilities -> Power Manager -> Applications.
Sorry if this isn't the reason or if it's only on my phone. But I don't think so. And it would be a good reason since MTP application is Samsung-specific. My firmware: XKE2.
Please let me know! Thanks!
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Been frozen since day 1, don't need it unless you're messing with crappy Kies...
cmd512 said:
Been frozen since day 1, don't need it unless you're messing with crappy Kies...
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Yeah I just frozen it and renamed the apk to be sure, but I need feedback(and % eventually) from those who haven't frozed it and are reporting high OS usages.
My top10 power draining apps is Kies via Wifi. Interesting as I never use Kies via wifi before. LOL
jonrwg said:
My top10 power draining apps is Kies via Wifi. Interesting as I never use Kies via wifi before. LOL
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No MTP in the list?
A poll is added, please vote .
EleCtrOx666 said:
No MTP in the list?
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Nope.
1) Kies via Wifi 13%
2) CSC 11%
3) Fruit Ninja 3%
4) Twitter 2%
5) Tapatalk 2%
6) Facebook <1%
7) Whatsapp <1%
8) Android Booster <1%
My top power draining app is com.sec.android.app.lcdtest and it says 100%......havnt got a clue what that means
greigster said:
My top power draining app is com.sec.android.app.lcdtest and it says 100%......havnt got a clue what that means
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that's strange, but that's also counted as a part of "Android OS" I think, so it could be that (even though I don't have that!).
Are you sure that this program works? It lists Video maker as 23% of my power consumption.. And I never ever started the video maker on my phone......
TMaLuST said:
Are you sure that this program works? It lists Video maker as 23% of my power consumption.. And I never ever started the video maker on my phone......
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Hmm if it's that I would look a bit dumb with creating a thread for that ^^'. I installed it on advice from someone on this forum in Themes/apps section(here), and I though it wasn't bad because the rest of the apps seems to be correct with me /:.
Here is my usage. Its Android OS again... but look at the time since unplugged and the total power left (60%)!! I have used it quite a bit as well. Ive never had a smart phone that lasts so long.
rovex said:
Here is my usage. Its Android OS again... but look at the time since unplugged and the total power left (60%)!! I have used it quite a bit as well. Ive never had a smart phone that lasts so long.
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Please read the original post and post your top 1 draining app, thanks! (Just trying to know why Android OS is such high )
com.samsung.InputEvent is my top app.
rovex said:
com.samsung.InputEvent is my top app.
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Wow, this app is definitely not working good . I can't see why keyboard would drain battery. Sorry for this guys. The application probably just go in "Android OS" and pick ups a random application for blaming it.
At least I tried, I guess. :/
here it is: com.sec.android.app.encrypt
MOM2006 said:
here it is: com.sec.android.app.encrypt
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Well this app is not good working: it just picks up the first in the list of "Android OS" as I have experienced.
Mine says BluetoothTest!
The MTP makes a certain sense though. If you look in various events in the Autostarts app, it appears a lot.
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What you have to remember with mine is that im NOT getting bad battery life, im getting double that i got with my Desire or Dell streak.
EleCtrOx666 said:
Well this app is not good working: it just picks up the first in the list of "Android OS" as I have experienced.
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have an exchange account running in push mode. maybe this cause it. when i disable exchange email heavy battery drain is gone. but that's not a solution for me. i need my mails on the phone.
MOM2006 said:
have an exchange account running in push mode. maybe this cause it. when i disable exchange email heavy battery drain is gone. but that's not a solution for me. i need my mails on the phone.
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Nope I ment the app in the OP, sorry!

Why do stock apps launch at boot?

Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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borchgrevink said:
But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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borchgrevink said:
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
silentbob59 said:
My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...

Battery not lasting more than 2 hours

Hey guys, im kinda new to android but im not new to computers... so please dont say stuff like turn off wifi or turn off bluetooth and gps
I have disabled S Voice, S planner, And most of the crappy samsung stuff. I have only 2 email accounts connected to my gmail app and yes my auto sync is on. My phone is not rooted and i do not intend to do so ever. I just want to use the stock rom and launcher..
So the problem im facing is horrible battery life. I generally fully charge my phone till 10pm and dont use it overnight... then in the morning i just listen to some music on the way to school for about 1 hour and 30 minutes (yes i know my school is very far away from my house). then my phone is on standby for like 6-8 hours. and then at about 3pm i use it again for music and facebook n stuff... by 4:30pm i only have 20-30% battery left with only 1 hour and 50 minutes of screen on time..
please help me to increase the battery life because im pretty sure that its supposed to last much longer.
PS nfc,voice command, google now,wifi,gps,bluetooth etc is off.
1. Using auto sync kills the battery. It is constantly checking for emails, syncing with Google, Facebook etc etc... this might be one of the reasons.
2. I suggest you put the screen brightness on auto. one of the biggest battery consumption of now a days smartphones are the big screens.
3. Try to upgrade your phone to a newer version, that might help either. some people report that after upgrading to a newer version, the battery life improved for them.
4. Turn of Mobile Data. This is a HUGE battery drainer!
That is what I can think of.
I hope I managed to help you
raied115 said:
1. Using auto sync kills the battery. It is constantly checking for emails, syncing with Google, Facebook etc etc... this might be one of the reasons.
2. I suggest you put the screen brightness on auto. one of the biggest battery consumption of now a days smartphones are the big screens.
3. Try to upgrade your phone to a newer version, that might help either. some people report that after upgrading to a newer version, the battery life improved for them.
4. Turn of Mobile Data. This is a HUGE battery drainer!
That is what I can think of.
I hope I managed to help you
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dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
ujain420 said:
dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
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Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
jje
JJEgan said:
Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
jje
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i already tried restoring it... didnt help.
and i took it to the service centre too, they are like "we didnt find any problem with it". im from india so the people in service centres here are useless, they are uneducated and dont care about others. So yeah no help from there
and does everyone have to root to use the phone as advertised i mean i just dont want to spend hours and hours on tweaking my phone so that it works as any other phone does.
and how many hours of screen on do u get on normal usage?
JJEgan said:
Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
jje
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I agree. . If you want to have a conventional phone, then use the conventional repair channels.
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ujain420 said:
dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
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The most updated version is 4.1.2...
Facebook/Whatsapp/Viber/Tango, all these programs consume alot of battery as they need to wake the phone and check for notifications (messages etc... ). I'm not saying don't install them, I'm saying you shouldn't have the Mobile Data turned on all the time. I'm assuming you don't send a message every second, right? Or check the email every second? (and I also assume that you are not a business man since you go to school...) The world won't collapse if you don't check your email/Facebook/Whatsapp every 5 seconds. That is my advice to you, you can choose to accept it or reject it, its your choice.
ujain420 said:
i already tried restoring it... didnt help.
and i took it to the service centre too, they are like "we didnt find any problem with it". im from india so the people in service centres here are useless, they are uneducated and dont care about others. So yeah no help from there
and does everyone have to root to use the phone as advertised i mean i just dont want to spend hours and hours on tweaking my phone so that it works as any other phone does.
and how many hours of screen on do u get on normal usage?
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No use complaining here about a problem that you have complain to Samsung .
This is XDA developers forum not a fix your phone forum .We cannot help you if the battery lasts two hours its a fault rooting will not help .
jje
raied115 said:
The most updated version is 4.1.2...
Facebook/Whatsapp/Viber/Tango, all these programs consume alot of battery as they need to wake the phone and check for notifications (messages etc... ). I'm not saying don't install them, I'm saying you shouldn't have the Mobile Data turned on all the time. I'm assuming you don't send a message every second, right? Or check the email every second? (and I also assume that you are not a business man since you go to school...) The world won't collapse if you don't check your email/Facebook/Whatsapp every 5 seconds. That is my advice to you, you can choose to accept it or reject it, its your choice.
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i understand what u are saying. However i cant find any option to tell the gmail app to fetch my email every half an hour or so like it is in iPhone (in iphone u can choose ur fetch time). I dont get notificaions every second and even every hour for that matter but i need mobile data on for whatsapp atleast and i have already turned off facebook sync i.e. it only looks for notifications. i dont have viber or tango installed.
and do u really think mobile data is using up all my battery coz i saw this website that said the s3 can give up to 6 hours of web surfing.
ujain420 said:
i understand what u are saying. However i cant find any option to tell the gmail app to fetch my email every half an hour or so like it is in iPhone (in iphone u can choose ur fetch time). I dont get notificaions every second and even every hour for that matter but i need mobile data on for whatsapp atleast and i have already turned off facebook sync i.e. it only looks for notifications. i dont have viber or tango installed.
and do u really think mobile data is using up all my battery coz i saw this website that said the s3 can give up to 6 hours of web surfing.
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If you drop down the notification window, u should find there a Sync option. disable it. That should do it for the Sync issue.
You can't understand how much battery turning off Mobile Data saves...
Trust me, people won't go nuts if you don't answer them just as you receive the message
So you can chat with your friends, but don't forget to turn off Mobile Data, so it won't consume a lot of battery
AW: Battery not lasting more than 2 hours
I have had the same problem so I flashed the Siyah kernel and even overclocked it to 1,7 ghz. Awkwardly my battery lasts much much longer now. About 2 days of average usage.
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raied115 said:
If you drop down the notification window, u should find there a Sync option. disable it. That should do it for the Sync issue.
You can't understand how much battery turning off Mobile Data saves...
Trust me, people won't go nuts if you don't answer them just as you receive the message
So you can chat with your friends, but don't forget to turn off Mobile Data, so it won't consume a lot of battery
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so do u prefer i turn on wifi instead? does that use less battery than 3G?
and i know how to disable sync!
Looking at your screen shots there appears nothing wrong with your phone, it's doing exactly what Samsung intended it to do as a 'connected hub for your online life' - but it will eat your battery as the phone is working and communicating all the time while you're not using it.
Either live with a charger close at hand or disable the 30 or so rubbish apps and services they included to burn through your battery. Who cares about OTA updates, delete your Samsung account, check your facebook using the browser instead of an app etc.
I get 2 days use from one charge with at least 6 to 8 hours screen on time included, but my phone is only awake when I turn the screen on, doing what I want it to do - not amusing it's self when turned off. That requires a custom ROM or rooting at least to kill the persistant stock apps.
Using wifi instead of 3G will reduce power consumption quite a bit, especially if your 3G signal is weak.
boomboomer said:
Looking at your screen shots there appears nothing wrong with your phone, it's doing exactly what Samsung intended it to do as a 'connected hub for your online life' - but it will eat your battery as the phone is working and communicating all the time while you're not using it.
Either live with a charger close at hand or disable the 30 or so rubbish apps and services they included to burn through your battery. Who cares about OTA updates, delete your Samsung account, check your facebook using the browser instead of an app etc.
I get 2 days use from one charge with at least 6 to 8 hours screen on time included, but my phone is only awake when I turn the screen on, doing what I want it to do - not amusing it's self when turned off. That requires a custom ROM or rooting at least to kill the persistant stock apps.
Using wifi instead of 3G will reduce power consumption quite a bit, especially if your 3G signal is weak.
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First of all thanks for an awesome reply
Secondly, I don't have any Samsung account enabled and how do I check if facebook is using the browser?
Btw which Rom do u use?
ujain420 said:
First of all thanks for an awesome reply
Secondly, I don't have any Samsung account enabled and how do I check if facebook is using the browser?
Btw which Rom do u use?
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Even if you don't use the Samsung apps & services they are still running in the background, you are certainly using the Facebook app as it ate a large amount of your battery. Disable the facebook app and instead use the browser to check it just when you need to, this is just an example btw - it won't solve your overall problem.
I use Vikingway ROM, which is a very stripped down version of stock so everything still works. It should double your battery life, but your online social life will suffer.
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Even if you don't use the Samsung apps & services they are still running in the background, you are certainly using the Facebook app as it ate a large amount of your battery. Disable the facebook app and instead use the browser to check it just when you need to, this is just an example btw - it won't solve your overall problem.
I use Vikingway ROM, which is a very stripped down version of stock so everything still works. It should double your battery life, but your online social life will suffer.
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i know i have disabled most of them from the applications manager. Come on i wont use fb on the browser, i had a htc wildfire s before this i have suffered enough
this is my first good smartphone and i really wanna make the most of it so yeah
what do u think about the cyanogenmod btw?
Install AppQuarantine
Disable Maps and Facebook. Them to alone cause most battery station with absolutely no use. You mentioned you use Facebook often.. Use a widget to quick enable+open/disable Facebook for example.
Facebook uses 5% battery just like that. Maps up to 15%
Whenever you reboot your device look at running apps. Almost everything should be killed except Google services.
Manage what syncs. Limit Google syncing to gmail only.
And then some
Root:
Root your S3. Use SetCPU profiles when screen is off 200-300 ondemand governor. Under volt if necessary for that extra up to 5%.
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK
I seem to get varying degrees of battery life. Was getting great battery life with Perseus kernel, then all of a sudden after restoring from a nandroid backup it went terrible.
Mayeb going to switch back to siyah kernel and follow some of the battery life threads
23Six said:
Install AppQuarantine
Disable Maps and Facebook. Them to alone cause most battery station with absolutely no use. You mentioned you use Facebook often.. Use a widget to quick enable+open/disable Facebook for example.
Facebook uses 5% battery just like that. Maps up to 15%
Whenever you reboot your device look at running apps. Almost everything should be killed except Google services.
Manage what syncs. Limit Google syncing to gmail only.
And then some
Root:
Root your S3. Use SetCPU profiles when screen is off 200-300 ondemand governor. Under volt if necessary for that extra up to 5%.
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK
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Thank you so much guys, I just got the 4.1.2 update and since then my battery lasts about 3 hours on screen on time and the standby time had also increased quite significantly. I have also turned off auto sync and that helps a lot too.
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GREEN "GOOGLE" WIDGET-all in a sudden!

Dear GURUs, I have found something on my SGS2 that I don't like. I don't like it even more because it appeared without my allowing it to appear. It is a green widget, with small "g" and with something like "Google's adjustment". I don't want this on my phone and moreover I don't use social reds, I don't need them. It also seems that this "tuner" shortens the battery life significantly. I cannot find this "mierd"! I tried with Titanium and failed. Please help me to find its nest. I am eager to eliminate it.
laotzy said:
Dear GURUs, I have found something on my SGS2 that I don't like. I don't like it even more because it appeared without my allowing it to appear. It is a green widget, with small "g" and with something like "Google's adjustment". I don't want this on my phone and moreover I don't use social reds, I don't need them. It also seems that this "tuner" shortens the battery life significantly. I cannot find this "mierd"! I tried with Titanium and failed. Please help me to find its nest. I am eager to eliminate it.
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Google setting option (google+ latitude location etc.) prob. appeared after google search update day or two ish ago.
laotzy said:
I don't want this on my phone and moreover I don't use social reds, I don't need them. It also seems that this "tuner" shortens the battery life significantly.
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It's "Google Settings". As far as I can see, it is just that -- an app to consolidate Google settings. It's not a "tuner", as it doesn't do anything by itself, other than providing a GUI for settings up some options. What makes you think that it affects the battery life? Do you see it as a draining app in the battery stats somewhere? Because I don't...
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It's "Google Settings". As far as I can see, it is just that -- an app to consolidate Google settings. It's not a "tuner", as it doesn't do anything by itself, other than providing a GUI for settings up some options. What makes you think that it affects the battery life? Do you see it as a draining app in the battery stats somewhere? Because I don't...
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Sorry to say but it has been a stupid panic on my part The battery seems to stay as it should be. Anyway, I have "frozen" com.Google.Android.gms...etc with Titanium as I don't need any social reds on my telefone. Thank you for your explanation.

is it Huawei or Android problem ? (Delay/Missing) notification

i just moved from Sony to Huawei last week . i got Mate 10 pro
device is nice and battery is great and fast and everything was perfect with me from the first look.
then by installing my daily use apps i noticed some problems are showing and not only me as i sow some users here are complaining it .
it is killing all apps and get no advantage of any app i want it to push a notification and reminder for me .
actually any app i use for reminders and notification are not working perfectly
for example i have tried 3 apps for prayer reminders and non of them worked for a complete day , it works once and the next it gets another delay , and last it gets missed .
also i have a call recorder which is working perfectly on my Xperia Z3 but here it is not recording every single call .
also i have app called BlipBlip for hourly peeping ... same issue .
any to-do app , caller identifier (truecaller,numberbook ....)
i tried to make the Ignore battery optimization
i changed the settings in Launch battery
still no luck
any permanent solution please ?
anyone please
AbuJ3fr said:
anyone please
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Probably a doze problem. I heard that is an oreo problem. I have the same issue with my op5. Probably they will fix it with updates.
Tiago A said:
Probably a doze problem. I heard that is an oreo problem. I have the same issue with my op5. Probably they will fix it with updates.
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i hope they do as soon as possible , otherwise the phone is useless like this .
is there a way to contact them ?
AbuJ3fr said:
i hope they do as soon as possible , otherwise the phone is useless like this .
is there a way to contact them ?
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Check their website. But, imo, waste of time.
AbuJ3fr said:
i just moved from Sony to Huawei last week . i got Mate 10 pro
device is nice and battery is great and fast and everything was perfect with me from the first look.
then by installing my daily use apps i noticed some problems are showing and not only me as i sow some users here are complaining it .
it is killing all apps and get no advantage of any app i want it to push a notification and reminder for me .
actually any app i use for reminders and notification are not working perfectly
for example i have tried 3 apps for prayer reminders and non of them worked for a complete day , it works once and the next it gets another delay , and last it gets missed .
also i have a call recorder which is working perfectly on my Xperia Z3 but here it is not recording every single call .
also i have app called BlipBlip for hourly peeping ... same issue .
any to-do app , caller identifier (truecaller,numberbook ....)
i tried to make the Ignore battery optimization
i changed the settings in Launch battery
still no luck
any permanent solution please ?
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If you enable Power saving mode then your device automatically kills background applications.
Try by disable power saving mode.
In settings, You will also manage that which apps show notifications and which are not.
All customization of notifications are avaliable in setting e.g. Notification on lock screen, notification on status bar, status bar icon. Hope it helps. Hit Thankx
Hamidmirza said:
If you enable Power saving mode then your device automatically kills background applications.
Try by disable power saving mode.
In settings, You will also manage that which apps show notifications and which are not.
All customization of notifications are avaliable in setting e.g. Notification on lock screen, notification on status bar, status bar icon. Hope it helps. Hit Thankx
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of course i am not using the power save mode ,
i put the app in the "Ignore battery optimization" list .
i put the app in the manual option in "Launch" and allowed everything to run in background .
i enabled the app in the n"Notification Management" section
what else i can do to prevent the device from killing the app ?
still i have this problem from time to time .
note : yesterday the app worked perfectly and i have got all notification and i thought i have solved the problem finally ,
but today it comes back again and start worry again .
AbuJ3fr said:
of course i am not using the power save mode ,
i put the app in the "Ignore battery optimization" list .
i put the app in the manual option in "Launch" and allowed everything to run in background .
i enabled the app in the n"Notification Management" section
what else i can do to prevent the device from killing the app ?
still i have this problem from time to time .
note : yesterday the app worked perfectly and i have got all notification and i thought i have solved the problem finally ,
but today it comes back again and start worry again .
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Have you tried by factory data reset?
I mean hard reset through stock recovery.
Be sure to remove your id otherwise you device stick in FRP lock.
Happens for me still with Disa (my facebook and sms messaging app).
It's really ****ty.
This is a hard one for sure! Is it Android or is it Huawei? I think it's a combination of both! We all shouted praise when we first heard of Doze...but now we curse the day we heard of it! LOL
On most of my phones I have had issues with Gmail notifications not coming in as quickly as I thought they should, and I still experience slight delays on my Mate 10 (non-pro) version. However, it seems that after I open Gmail for the first time in the day and get my first notification then it works OK for the rest of the day. My texts, using Textra, always come in right away and I have both apps set up the same way on the phone pertaining to battery, background, and notifications. So Gmail is the harder one to get working as it should. But is it Doze, or is it Huawei and EMUI? Personally, I think it should be left up to one or the other but NOT both! And whichever one implements a battery saving feature should provide CLEAR and CONCISE instructions on making it work the way we want it to. Huawei has implemented several convoluted methods to the way battery saving and notifications work and they are not mutually exclusive...in other words, they can conflict with each other...that is bad enough. But when you layer this ON TOP of Android's Doze (which has no apparent way to configure it) this just leads to a mess in trying to figure out what is causing the delays! So then, I feel that Android to needs to take control of this issue and force all OEM's to follow a standard for battery control so that it is the same across the board no matter what phone we are using.
jaseman said:
This is a hard one for sure! Is it Android or is it Huawei? I think it's a combination of both! We all shouted praise when we first heard of Doze...but now we curse the day we heard of it! LOL
On most of my phones I have had issues with Gmail notifications not coming in as quickly as I thought they should, and I still experience slight delays on my Mate 10 (non-pro) version. However, it seems that after I open Gmail for the first time in the day and get my first notification then it works OK for the rest of the day. My texts, using Textra, always come in right away and I have both apps set up the same way on the phone pertaining to battery, background, and notifications. So Gmail is the harder one to get working as it should. But is it Doze, or is it Huawei and EMUI? Personally, I think it should be left up to one or the other but NOT both! And whichever one implements a battery saving feature should provide CLEAR and CONCISE instructions on making it work the way we want it to. Huawei has implemented several convoluted methods to the way battery saving and notifications work and they are not mutually exclusive...in other words, they can conflict with each other...that is bad enough. But when you layer this ON TOP of Android's Doze (which has no apparent way to configure it) this just leads to a mess in trying to figure out what is causing the delays! So then, I feel that Android to needs to take control of this issue and force all OEM's to follow a standard for battery control so that it is the same across the board no matter what phone we are using.
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This is not an Android doze problem. Its Huawei battery management process killing all running apps. I had a sony xz premium running Oreo and not a single problem. Now I'm using Pixel 2 XL and not a signle problem. Its definitely Huawei that restricts notifications due to battery management. This is what stopped me getting the Mate 10 pro. Awesome phone but with notifications not coming through makes the phone useless
I also had the XZ Premium and I agree that it did not have this issue. But my Mate 10 (non-pro) really does not have it that bad. I really do not even notice it. I do shut off my phone every night. I have said in many different forums that I feel that a daily restart of all cell phones is good for keeping things running smoothly. Takes a minute of your time while brushing your teeth in the morning. Maybe this will help someone with more serious issues??
cmon people ...it's not that hard
...go to settings - battery - launch -
from there you can disable or enable specific battery management for each app to be able to launch, be launched by other apps and run in background
they are set to to be managed automatically by default, any app you are having issues being killed just open the launch settings and set them manually.
I set this up when i got the phone and i never have any issues with missing any notifications that i want to see plus my battery lasts for 2-3 days.
tmzbeme said:
cmon people ...it's not that hard
...go to settings - battery - launch -
from there you can disable or enable specific battery management for each app to be able to launch, be launched by other apps and run in background
they are set to to be managed automatically by default, any app you are having issues being killed just open the launch settings and set them manually.
I set this up when i got the phone and i never have any issues with missing any notifications that i want to see plus my battery lasts for 2-3 days.
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serusly ?
do you really think we will post and we all agree on an issue with out trying all ways to solve it first ?
if you read my post will see that i already mentioned i have done something and didnt resolve the problem :
of course i am not using the power save mode ,
i put the app in the "Ignore battery optimization" list .
i put the app in the manual option in "Launch" and allowed everything to run in background .
i enabled the app in the n"Notification Management" section
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tmzbeme said:
cmon people ...it's not that hard
...go to settings - battery - launch -
from there you can disable or enable specific battery management for each app to be able to launch, be launched by other apps and run in background.
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The problem with your reasoning is that Gmail is not listed there! This is the only one that seems to delay for me, but as I mentioned it is not that bad. Then again, I am not waiting for, or getting, anything in my personal email that needs super immediate attention. But there may be someone who needs their Gmail to notify them as soon as they receive an email. Thus the complaint!
Welcome the sh*ty world of Huawei
AbuJ3fr said:
i just moved from Sony to Huawei last week . i got Mate 10 pro
device is nice and battery is great and fast and everything was perfect with me from the first look.
then by installing my daily use apps i noticed some problems are showing and not only me as i sow some users here are complaining it .
it is killing all apps and get no advantage of any app i want it to push a notification and reminder for me .
actually any app i use for reminders and notification are not working perfectly
for example i have tried 3 apps for prayer reminders and non of them worked for a complete day , it works once and the next it gets another delay , and last it gets missed .
any permanent solution please ?
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I'm not surprised with Huawei and notifications problems.... This 2 goes together.
First with Mate 8 the first 4 months, then with Mate 9 the first 2 months and now with Mate 10 pro as you mentioned
To be honest I have Mate 10 (no pro) and from the first day I didn't have any problem with "stock mail app, Facebook, Facebook messanger, Viber, Twitter, Instagram, whatsup, weather widget"
But please try this one.... It was the solution I follow with Chinese version of Mate 9 : Open every app that you want instant notification and "locked" it to recent apps and keep it there.... If you have already try this then there isn't much more to do so think of a hard reset or change device.... As for Android 8 I have a s9+ together with Mate 10 and both are manage notifications perfectly....
tsiglas said:
I'm not surprised with Huawei and notifications problems.... This 2 goes together.
First with Mate 8 the first 4 months, then with Mate 9 the first 2 months and now with Mate 10 pro as you mentioned
To be honest I have Mate 10 (no pro) and from the first day I didn't have any problem with "stock mail app, Facebook, Facebook messanger, Viber, Twitter, Instagram, whatsup, weather widget"
But please try this one.... It was the solution I follow with Chinese version of Mate 9 : Open every app that you want instant notification and "locked" it to recent apps and keep it there.... If you have already try this then there isn't much more to do so think of a hard reset or change device.... As for Android 8 I have a s9+ together with Mate 10 and both are manage notifications perfectly....
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That is an interesting proposition! I have never used that particular lock before...in fact I can honestly say that at first I didn't know what you were talking about. I guess I never paid any attention to the little lock on those previously opened apps. Not sure if it will work yet or not but I did mention that after I opened Gmail the first time it appeared as if the notifications came in properly. So if this works then I should not have to open Gmail first thing in the morning to get the notifications flowing! Thank you so much for this suggestion! :good:

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