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Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks so much in advance for any and all advice, info and help you can give. I appreciate it so much!
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Sony XPERIA Z3v D6708
Intro
First, thanks to Pyres for the original Z3 root bounty thread, myself for the Z3v root bounty thread , and tuzonghua for the D6116 root bounty thread , our similarly mistreated sister device. As you all know, the root method created by zxz0O0 has long since granted us Verizon users root on our devices. But it's time we make a new bounty. The last hoorah for our poor little Z3v -- bootlader unlock.
Objective
With root achieved, the main objective of the bounty is to achieve bootloader unlock on the Z3v which, given the fact that Verizon has yet to release Lollipop OTA Verizon took this long to release 5.1.1, and will probably never release Marshmallow, would mean a great deal to us Z3v owners who want to run custom ROMs.
Claiming requirements - Bootloader
In order to claim this bounty, you will need to fulfill each and every one of this points (2 is optional but helpful):
1. Be the first person to create or find a method to unlock the bootloader on this device in any form;
2. BONUS Prove that the TA partition can also be backed up, and later restored with little issue, in order to maintain some Sony features that would be otherwise be lost if accidentally tampered with;
2. Give proof of point #1/#2 by posting an adequate quantity of screenshots to illustrate it, together with step by step instructions, in a fashion such that everyone can follow them and reproduce the exploit;
3. Wait for at least 10% of pledgers (fastest quorum achieved between per capita and per pecunia criteria*) to give confirmation about the method functionality;
4. Claim your bounty via PM from pledgers.
*i.e. the fastest between 10% of the number of people and 10% of the amount of money pledged as bounty.
Payment will be processed between each member and the bounty collector via PM on an individual basis.
List of Pledges
1. er1c1996 - $20.00
2. MGSBigBoss - $40.00
3. glasslung - $20.00
4. RoyalDrew - $20.00
5. ktnemec - $10.00
6. AddictedToGlass - $20.00
Total Pledge: $130.00
Rules of this bounty thread
- Please note before making a post in the thread please refer to the below list to see if your post will be acceptable. If it is not part of this list, your post will be reported and you may risk getting an infraction as per forum moderators.
- Please note you may not make any specific restrictions or requirements that aren't listed in the OP. By making a post with your contribution price you are agreeing to paying out based on all terms listed in OP only and nowhere else.
- Please be advised that if Sony is to release an official method of rooting without unlocking the bootloader or restoring TA partitions lost by officially unlocking the bootloader (extremely unlikely but must be accounted for) prior to any member of XDA's submission, this bounty automatically becomes invalidated.
- Please do not PM a pledge, for it will not be counted.
List of Acceptable Posts:
- New bounty submission or increase of current bounty;
- Questions or assistance in development of recovery or bootloader unlock method;
- Questions and answers regarding bootloaders on this device;
- Questions and answers regarding the nature of lockdown on this device;
- Questions and answers regarding kernel and bootloader-related exploits;
- Any kind of updates about unfinished or still work-in-progress methods that would at the moment of posting be unfit for fulfilling the bounty;
- Bounty's fulfillment.
I will start the bounty with $20.00.
I'll add $40
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I will add $20
An update for those of you who are interested, there is a currently unknown but apparently reputable source who has achieved a bootloader unlock (on a single device in a very specific case.) This user is working with GigaSPX but I will at this time not disclose any other details (I'll leave it ot him if he wants to say anything else about it.) Stay tuned, this is going to get real interesting soon enough...
er1c1996 said:
An update for those of you who are interested, there is a currently unknown but apparently reputable source who has achieved a bootloader unlock (on a single device in a very specific case.) This user is working with GigaSPX but I will at this time not disclose any other details (I'll leave it ot him if he wants to say anything else about it.) Stay tuned, this is going to get real interesting soon enough...
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start pledging if you want this its not going to be free as it will take some work and possible a tool to make it work with each device.
I'll pledge $20
I will pledge $10.
I'm in for $20 bucks.
Updated pledges.
I was reading about rooting a philips i think or panasonic android tablet . Someone mentioned that their bl is locked on it, and someone else said they had gone into some file with adb i think and unlocked thier bootloader manualy in adb. Has anyone tried anythig similar with the z3v. Im sorry for the lack of details , i will have to look that up again and see if i can get more info to explain it better. And also im sorry if this responce is not right for this bounty thread.
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Ok, what i meant was. Has anyone used adb, and fastboot. They did that on some forum i was readig in and then typed command in fastboot "fastboot oem unlock". Then went bback a menu or so and there was an unlock button at that point that they hit and it unlocked .Im pretty sure this has been tried, but wanted to mention it to make sure it wasnt an option with our z3v.
Samwest1 said:
I was reading about rooting a philips i think or panasonic android tablet . Someone mentioned that their bl is locked on it, and someone else said they had gone into some file with adb i think and unlocked thier bootloader manualy in adb. Has anyone tried anythig similar with the z3v. Im sorry for the lack of details , i will have to look that up again and see if i can get more info to explain it better. And also im sorry if this responce is not right for this bounty thread.
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Ok, what i meant was. Has anyone used adb, and fastboot. They did that on some forum i was readig in and then typed command in fastboot "fastboot oem unlock". Then went bback a menu or so and there was an unlock button at that point that they hit and it unlocked .Im pretty sure this has been tried, but wanted to mention it to make sure it wasnt an option with our z3v.
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That is the standard way to unlock the bootloader and the way to officially unlock devices that have it allowed. However, some xperia devices and all Z3v have this blocked. The point of this thread is to find an unofficial way to unlock and bypass the official block on this.
Oh, ok. I didn't know that was the normal way it was done. I had just read about it and thought u guys would kno about it but maybe not so i wanted to make sure.
I think I'd pitch a few bucks in if we can get interest again. This thing would be just about perfect with custom roms. Making do with Root and Xposed for now.
Maybe a big $100 bounty if someone throws something together in a month from now.
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thals1992 said:
I think I'd pitch a few bucks in if we can get interest again. This thing would be just about perfect with custom roms. Making do with Root and Xposed for now.
Maybe a big $100 bounty if someone throws something together in a month from now.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3v using XDA Labs
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This phone could only go so far with how things are going. I'm almost making my days with his phone numbered because of how much appeal the Galaxy S7 Edge is to me. D:
The only developers for this phone are either really busy or this is just too tough to crack without getting real help from expert developers from XDA.
GigaSPX said:
This phone could only go so far with how things are going. I'm almost making my days with his phone numbered because of how much appeal the Galaxy S7 Edge is to me. D:
The only developers for this phone are either really busy or this is just too tough to crack without getting real help from expert developers from XDA.
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so this is now Impossible due to the kernel in 5.1.1 the kernel was set to debug in 5.0.2 and now they added some extra crap to 5.1.1 so even if u revert u still have that addition to your kernel and zachpope and i have upgraded so there's no way to test it and we couldn't have it, so what would be the point. I'm assuming most of you have upgraded to 5.1.1 also. It was a lot of work anyway and we flashed z3 ROMs they didn't work it would have been nice to try a z2 ROM before we lost this as it may have worked.
Tigerhoods said:
so this is now Impossible due to the kernel in 5.1.1 the kernel was set to debug in 5.0.2 and now they added some extra crap to 5.1.1 so even if u revert u still have that addition to your kernel and zachpope and i have upgraded so there's no way to test it and we couldn't have it, so what would be the point. I'm assuming most of you have upgraded to 5.1.1 also. It was a lot of work anyway and we flashed z3 ROMs they didn't work it would have been nice to try a z2 ROM before we lost this as it may have worked.
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Well holy crap. That's already pushed my desire to get the S7 Edge now. Verizon really hates us Z3v buyers.
GigaSPX said:
Well holy crap. That's already pushed my desire to get the S7 Edge now. Verizon really hates us Z3v buyers.
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you might want to wait a few months for development and root. And yes Verizon hates us although this could have been the same with the z3, it just took 10 months longer to get 5.1.1 I'm not sure. The only phone this bootloader thing could be useful for to my knowledge would be the guys stuck on 5.0.2 with T-Mobile if they are still stuck on 5.0.2. And again it was a lot of work and kinda useless for our z3v =z2/z3 hybrid.
Tigerhoods said:
you might want to wait a few months for development and root. And yes Verizon hates us although this could have been the same with the z3, it just took 10 months longer to get 5.1.1 I'm not sure. The only phone this bootloader thing could be useful for to my knowledge would be the guys stuck on 5.0.2 with T-Mobile if they are still stuck on 5.0.2. And again it was a lot of work and kinda useless for our z3v =z2/z3 hybrid.
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Wait for development of the S7/Edge? Yeah that's understandable, and to this day, I have no idea what this "KNOX" thing is for Samsung.
Our phones are great, but it's already outdated by new and newer things.
GigaSPX said:
Wait for development of the S7/Edge? Yeah that's understandable, and to this day, I have no idea what this "KNOX" thing is for Samsung.
Our phones are great, but it's already outdated by new and newer things.
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yea development for the s7. Knox is a Samsung pay thing I believe. Giga I would seriously consider not buying a Verizon branded phone if I was you. Look at all the crap Verizon's put us through with the z3v. If I was you and I had to have an s7 I would sell my z3v for I duuno $175
And bye s7 outright if u do that and ur not under contract your line cost is $20 a month instead of 40 so either way your going to pay 500+ for the s7 when its all said and done. Its your choice if you want to risk it. What about the x-performance are you not interested in that.
Hello everyone, I am ne to the site and forums for Android software development. I have always wanted to explore Linux OS systems and devices for quite a while but never seemed interesting and now I see that it is very valuable to know and understand. I consider myself a tech but mostly for PC, I hold an AS on Computer Electronics and current going for my BS for IT in Cyber Security and Linux pops up. I want to root my phone but it turns out that the bootloader is locked and I was wondering if I can get some help from you fellow experts. The phone is a Note 4 from ATT with android 5.1.1 installed. Is there any hope for me or can there be a solution. Thanks in advance....
Unfortunately, the chances of the bootloader getting unlocked is slim to none. The phone is close to 2 years old and no one has figured out. The people that might have the knowledge or motivation to figure it out have most likely moved on. They don't even have root yet, much less the bootloader being unlocked. For future reference, if you want to learn about modding android devices, stay away from VZW and AT&T phones. They specifically ask the manufacturers to make it more difficult to mod their phones. Sometimes there are ways around it, a lot of times there is not.
Hi Guys,
Based on our need to unlock all LG G5 variants, I have tried a new approach by writing to them directly @ https://www.lg.com/eg_en/support/contact/chat-email/email
Could you please try to do the same guys? It might work, guys.
Here is a copy from what I sent.
Hi Team,
Hope you are doing fine.
I have the amazing LG G5 "H860" and I am really enjoying such an experience with the mobile. Still, I would like to have the taste of trying some other mods but the locked bootloader preventing me as well as many other people from doing the same. I understand the risk and I really want to have it done. I already passed the warranty and I have nothing to lose at this point.
However, there is some current petitions in some third-party forums and websites but looks it never reaches LG. Therefore, I take this step and write to you. Could you please take in consideration unlocking the bootloader in the next update at least for this model H860?
Thanks a lot for your kind help and support.
Best regards,
Ahmad
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Update: I have had a call from LG Egypt representative regarding this mail. He told that he will escalate the issue to LG Korea to check the availability to include unlocked bootloader in the next update but this requires around 4-6 months based on LG update cycle schedules for LG G5. Guys, please try on your own country website and give some feedback.
I was actually thinking to give a call and raise a ticket. I'll let you know once I do that.
Worth a try for my Sprint version too.
Hi Team,
Hope you are doing fine.
I have the amazing LG G5 "LS992" and I am really enjoying such an experience with the mobile. Still, I would like to have the taste of trying some other mods but the locked bootloader preventing me as well as many other people from doing the same. I understand the risk and I really want to have it done. I already passed the warranty and I have nothing to lose at this point.
However, there is some current petitions in some third-party forums and websites but looks it never reaches LG. Therefore, I take this step and write to you. Could you please take in consideration unlocking the bootloader in the next update at least for this model LS992?
Thanks a lot for your kind help and support.
Best regards,
Hi guys,
I also sent email to LG about it.
You can find LG site for your country here http://www.lg.com/common/index.jsp
Thank you guys, keep it up. I believe this will work better than posting in their forum or petitions.
I currently own the US model of this device. I've done some digging in the forums but I never really come up with very much. If anyone could help I'd be willing to try just about anything to get this phone rooted as long as there's a recovery option. I've read in other threads that the European model can be rooted but the US version has no such luck. If anyone has anymore information please post a reply I would love to get a discussion started. Thanks in advance
Model:LM-850UM
DarkTomb09 said:
I currently own the US model of this device. I've done some digging in the forums but I never really come up with very much. If anyone could help I'd be willing to try just about anything to get this phone rooted as long as there's a recovery option. I've read in other threads that the European model can be rooted but the US version has no such luck. If anyone has anymore information please post a reply I would love to get a discussion started. Thanks in advance
Model:LM-850UM
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Guess there's not much love for LG devices!
iceman1977 said:
Guess there's not much love for LG devices!
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Unfortunately, yes your appear to be right. I haven't been able to find anything on this device as far as the U.S. version goes anyway. Apparently, the European version has already been rooted with Magisk and an unlocked bootloader. Although no one has said much of anything about this one. I hope there some development soon!!
A shame these dont yet have bootloader unlock etc.. Its a great phone with Awesome specs on it.
I picked up a Like NEw one for 200.00 (u.s. sprint) version. I use it on t-mobile.
carlasan said:
A shame these dont yet have bootloader unlock etc.. Its a great phone with Awesome specs on it.
I picked up a Like NEw one for 200.00 (u.s. sprint) version. I use it on t-mobile.
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Well it has according to the LG website. Didn't try it out yet.
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
• LG V50S: LMG850EMW/LMG850EMWX for the European market
This is the LG G8X (check your device info).
We'll probably have to wait for Firehose to be released for LG Snapdragon 855 to have any hopes for unlocking on Non EU variants
No bootloader unlock available? Was checking developer settings and was able to turn on OEM unlock. Would really like to see some AOSP ROMs available for this phone.
I am very glad to be getting replies here. However, US models are still unrootable as far as I can tell its not listed for the US region but is listed for EU. So far no new updates. Please keep the conversation alive though!! Need a developer to start cracking down on this device please!
If anyone knows any developer's willing to work on this device I will quite literally give them payment to develop a working root method for this device. No joke. I'm not very sure how much power developers have over this device. But I would really love to find out.
DarkTomb09 said:
If anyone knows any developer's willing to work on this device I will quite literally give them payment to develop a working root method for this device. No joke. I'm not very sure how much power developers have over this device. But I would really love to find out.
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You could probably start a Bounty thread like they did with the V50 and G8.
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You could probably start a Bounty thread like they did with the V50 and G8.
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How would I go about doing this? Not all that familiar with Xda honestly. I rooted my old phone thanks to this site but I wouldn't know how to contact any developers on this subject.
A shame that this high end phone does not yet have root/rom. (in u.s.) You can pick these up fairly inexpensively (on ebay..as I did)
Hope LG is able to get bootloader unlocked one day or I may have to go back to Xiaomi / Oneplus
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
carlasan said:
A shame that this high end phone does not yet have root/rom. (in u.s.) You can pick these up fairly inexpensively (on ebay..as I did)
Hope LG is able to get bootloader unlocked one day or I may have to go back to Xiaomi / Oneplus
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Well considering this same device is rooted it would likely mean that eventually we will have something. It might take awhile however. The EU version is definitely rooted and even compatible with Magisk having an unlocked bootloader is fantastic. Especially in this time. However since our country is a bit more controlling when it comes to phone data we may not see one until this device is obsolete. Meaning that LG will have made their money on it and therefore feel safe releasing a bootloader unlock officially..