Someone said s3 not getting kitkat bcause of the 1gb ram not enough but did you know samsung galaxy core 2 have 780mb ram and its running kitkat and its stable can anybody explain this?
damn samsung
because samsung sucks thats why
Because its old phone which had a lot of updates. From 4.0.4 to 4.3
Can you imagine how much money cost update? And update do not earn any money.
They say they would not be able to deliver the best user experiece which in their case means TouchWiz. Many people report that TouchWiz is a resource hog.
Some articles even suggest that contrary to Samsung's statement NOW WITH KitKat TouchWiz would run smoother.
For example:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5167...t-top-5-optimisation-samsung.htm#.U-JwXWOM64s
I believe it's money:
-rewriting&optimizing TouchWiz for KitKat $$$
-pushing update on servers $$$
-not selling bigger phones ("want KitKat? Get S4!") $$$ (for them)
It's a good business decision money wise but morale wise ... Not.
verny94 said:
Because its old phone which had a lot of updates. From 4.0.4 to 4.3
Can you imagine how much money cost update? And update do not earn any money.
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Behemoth1702 said:
They say they would not be able to deliver the best user experiece which in their case means TouchWiz. Many people report that TouchWiz is a resource hog.
Some articles even suggest that contrary to Samsung's statement NOW WITH KitKat TouchWiz would run smoother.
For example:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5167...t-top-5-optimisation-samsung.htm#.U-JwXWOM64s
I believe it's money:
-rewriting&optimizing TouchWiz for KitKat $$$
-pushing update on servers $$$
-not selling bigger phones ("want KitKat? Get S4!") $$$ (for them)
It's a good business decision money wise but morale wise ... Not.
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Thanks for Thanks explaination but qs make a kitkat rom and did you think the rom will be no bugs and problem like s4 and note2 kitkat update?
If you would like KITKAT flash a custom rom.
Because Samsung wants money.
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Because Samsung wants money.
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I dont think so.. Better idea is Samsung doesn´t want to loose money for FOURTH update for SIII and if you want to have update whatever it takes? With lot of bugs etc... Or with Knox..
Seeems like Custom Rom is the way to go here. I am running CM 11 M9 with no problems on my i9300. Love the custom roms!
I don't know about the things said earlier posts but there is a system problem with GS3. Gs3 has a file system partition (wherw ROM with all if its blaotware installs) of about 1.5 gb. The Samsung released new kitkat with all of it new bloatware in it goes beyond 1.5 GB that is to be precise 1.7 GB. Samsung has to cut short its all (paid) bloatware in order to keep the KK rom running in GS3 which samsung cannot (afford) to do. That's why they all together decided not to update the device at all. And despite the device already got enough updates that is from 4.0 to 4.3 and that the device was 2 and half year old now also added to th2 fact samsung not taking pain to update this beast.
As far as Hardware is concerned GS3's hardware is more than enough to handle KK ROMs even the latest Android L. Hardware is NOT the issue. It's all about Samsung being economical about it's bloatware income and team management for this update.
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does our sga is capeble of getting the android 4.0 ice cream sadwich update or we have to be happy with gingerbred only???????????
Just wait for cm8.
We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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Yeah.. Lame old marketing tactics lol.
By the way, I've seen some leaked videos of Prime and S running ICS and from there I could understand that even S wont have the exact same version of ICS the Prime will have... Well at least for the GUI.
Have a look at this.
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We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
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couldnt agree more
If I had to choose I'd rather have a completely stable and optimized Gingerbread instead of an ICS. Stable meaning every feature working the way it should, like my wifi actually reconnecting after sleep.
The main advantages on ICS are:
1) dual core support and hardware accelerating
2) New UI.
Because neither of those are relevant to Galaxy Ace, I'm fine with Gingerbread.
But XDA developers are really fast and they will port ICS even if Samsung wouldn't.
but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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Yeah maybe for some high-end devices that is..
And really, I wouldnt expect much from Samsung in the term of firmware updates.
Maybe we could just put our hope on a new ICS-based CM instead
google announced that it will be available for the first 18 months for existing phones...
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im hoping it would come to our devices.
Yup there's a new agreement for companies to provide software updates till the 1 year or so is up. We're probably getting it but of course they will prioritize.
New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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It'd really be pointless though. ICS is a much more optimised version of HC which should bring full SMP support through software, something that has gone begging for quite a while to take advantage of phones like the S2. Maybe they are adding GPU rendering as well. Another useless perk for the Ace as the GPU is ****.
Also, why bother porting ICS to ARMv6? It's a complete waste of resources when it's almost likely to provide little to no benefit.
My opinion at least. Don't get your hopes up for ICS/ICS-based CM8.
I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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Best we may see is a theme.
And what about some battery improvements in ICS? Maybe the phone won 't go faster but battery life could be higher. Or am i wrong?
Don't sound so negative guys, IV seen some old android phones running a ported gingerbread so anything is possible, never underestimate what the power of coding and patience can do
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Well I know about the hardware, and it rocks,....
But all i need to know is how is Sony's UI....and does this phone lagg, when loaded with tons Of Apps on a never-rooted Phone......
Is it Worth Buying and Staying Un-Rooted....or Should i go for Galaxy s2 ...??
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Well I know about the hardware, and it rocks,....
But all i need to know is how is Sony's UI....and does this phone lagg, when loaded with tons Of Apps on a never-rooted Phone......
Is it Worth Buying and Staying Un-Rooted....or Should i go for Galaxy s2 ...??
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this is not the questions section but i will be kind and anwser it before a mod removes it
hardware is good rocking a 1.5 dual core wich is faster then stock sgs2 (wich i also own)
sony's UI is not bad still has some left overs from official ics look but overall it has a good appeal
no phone does not lag even when i have serious multitasking going on never had issues not even on ICS
root does not mean the phone is faster
hope this anwsers your questions
feel free to pm me
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I dunno. I like the XS way more than the SGS2, mostly for design and camera reasons. Sony's UI is not horrible like TouchWiz, though I still prefer AOSP since it looks lighter. There's a bit of a problem with custom ROMs now, but we're quite close to getting a temporary hack while Bin4ry works out a better solution.
Hi everybody
Recently I noticed a large interest in the subject custom ROM for Mega. Especially a lot was written about the AOSP. Please express, what do you expect after installing such ROM and why you do not like TW?
Another thing are stock ROM's stripped of almost all s-apps and other software deemed unnecessary in order to recover memory. Please share your opinions on the advisability of such action. Did you really needed all this reclaimed memory?
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
I still dont know if we can expect full 4.3 update. Some web sites claim that Mega wont receive this "Premium package" update whatever that means. I dont think that Mega 6.3 is a mid class smartphone and it would be plain stupidity if we stay out of good updates. So very important part for a custom RoM is the availability of the latest Samsung goodies from the flagman like S4 for instance.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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Hmm, I was asking about expectation towards AOSP custom ROM-s as such CM or MIUI. As you probably know, many futures in Samsung stock ROM depends heavily on TW. Massive striping stock Samsung ROM from all s-apps could even cripple your phone. But installing AOSP ROM will means clean-out all samsung dependencies, so there will be not possible to run futures from S4 or GN3. maybe I'm wrong, let somebody correct me.
I think so TW is not so bad either and was curious why some people are so opposed to it. I was user of Motorola Defy which actualization stops on Android 2.3 so custom ROM's were only alternative. Now I am not so eager to strip my Mega to bare AOSP.
Yeah I missed the point of AOSP rom a little bit, but I strongly believe that a Samsung device without TW loses its advantages. I've been using Galaxy S with AOSP for a long time but I was forced to do it because of the lack of updates after 2.3.6
Samsung says that the new 4.3 update will bring new and fast TW without lags and constant refreshing. This makes me think that porting the new SW is better than Aosp roms. Of course there should be some roms based on CM cause many people preffer stock android instead of customized one.
I just want CM because it allows you to port MIUI v5. I have always been a fan of MIUI roms.
Hi guys. I know the S2 is one old phone, but i found one, slightly used for just over 110 dollars. I want it mostly for messing with it and putting kitkat on it (since he hates Samsungs bloat), but I intend on giving it to my father to replace his Galaxy Ace 2 which is stock, untouched.
Is it worth it?
No.
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Hi guys. I know the S2 is one old phone, but i found one, slightly used for just over 110 dollars. I want it mostly for messing with it and putting kitkat on it (since he hates Samsungs bloat), but I intend on giving it to my father to replace his Galaxy Ace 2 which is stock, untouched.
Is it worth it?
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Get moto g instead
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i am using it its one of the best phone around moto g is good but newly launched s2 is old and has good support from devs
It's really old, mate. Most of the dedicated S2 devs have moved on. We do have good ROMs but most are made for a variety of devices including S2 (CM, SlimRom, Omny).
Also, the S2 hardware is no match to current gen chipsets are way better. Faster GPS, better WiFi connectivity and IPS-LCD tip the scale for me....
I'd go for a current gen device with modest specs. Sony have good simple devices, MotoG is a good choice. The Nexus4 comes to mind too.
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Hi guys. I know the S2 is one old phone, but i found one, slightly used for just over 110 dollars. I want it mostly for messing with it and putting kitkat on it (since he hates Samsungs bloat), but I intend on giving it to my father to replace his Galaxy Ace 2 which is stock, untouched.
Is it worth it?
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Have my words.... No ...
Reason - 1.most of the developers have moved on .
2.Although we have kitkat.. Its still no where near to what real kitkat is...
Fanboys will try to prove me wrong but i have seen kitkat on moto g and s2 ... And belive me u cant compare how bad kitkat we have (no disrespect here ) all thanks to sammy...
3.Official cm support for kitkat came very late .. Very late i mean very late... Probably we wont see official cm support for next version of android...
If it wasnt for wayland_ace ...we would have no kitkat yet .
4. KITKAT still has lots of minor bugs.
5. Eek i run stock rooted deoxed ics and its the best stock rom combo for fast performance and xtreme battery life... Only for this benefit.. A YES is present
Hi there,
i am about to buy a new phone sooner or later.
My old SGS III (I9300) is still running quite fine (thx to the dev´s in here), but after 2,5 years i looks kinda awfull by now because of the bad build quality (cheap plastic crap) of the body.
So the next should have better build quality = metal frame if pos.
So i figured out 2-3 possible phones:
Samsung Galaxy Alpha or Samsung Galaxy A5 (wont be released in the US/Canada as far as i know)
As an alternative:
Phicomm Passion
The most important point for me is the longtime community support from CM,Omni, etc. This tbh is the only reason i still use and can use my quite old S3. And i can´t even tell you how much i hate Touchwiz and crap UI´s like this.
Might it be easier to get a good working CM for the A5 because it will have a Snapdragon 400 or 410. I often read about Samsungs Exynos making it hard to develop for.
So do you got any thoughts what device will have the better community support? Yeah crappy question i know, just wanna hear your thoughts
greetings from germany
Phil
rorian said:
Hi there,
i am about to buy a new phone sooner or later.
My old SGS III (I9300) is still running quite fine (thx to the dev´s in here), but after 2,5 years i looks kinda awfull by now because of the bad build quality (cheap plastic crap) of the body.
So the next should have better build quality = metal frame if pos.
So i figured out 2-3 possible phones:
Samsung Galaxy Alpha or Samsung Galaxy A5 (wont be released in the US/Canada as far as i know)
As an alternative:
Phicomm Passion
The most important point for me is the longtime community support from CM,Omni, etc. This tbh is the only reason i still use and can use my quite old S3. And i can´t even tell you how much i hate Touchwiz and crap UI´s like this.
Might it be easier to get a good working CM for the A5 because it will have a Snapdragon 400 or 410. I often read about Samsungs Exynos making it hard to develop for.
So do you got any thoughts what device will have the better community support? Yeah crappy question i know, just wanna hear your thoughts
greetings from germany
Phil
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A5 is midranger sd410 , don't go for it .
U can't compare Alpha with A5 , go for Alpha / iphone 5s/i6 / Wait for S6 / htc M9
Touchwiz of Alpha is fine , i had moto G before and hated stock android very much .
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A5 is midranger sd410 , don't go for it .
U can't compare Alpha with A5 , go for Alpha / iphone 5s/i6 / Wait for S6 / htc M9
Touchwiz of Alpha is fine , i had moto G before and hated stock android very much .
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Yeah i know the the Alpha has a stronger SoC, and is intended to be a flagship device. But tbh as long as the system runs smooth i dont give a damn at antutu scores and dont even play any games.
But i think the best precondition for a good longtime support from the community is a high popularity and alot of sold devices. Atleast i think thats the reason the SGS3 for example, is still up to date.
I dont really care about the support from the producers like Samsung, HTC, LG etc. They all do quite a bad job at holding their devices up to date. (Sony might be a exception) The community does this job alot better in my eyes.
As far as i can see it the Galaxy Alpha didnt sell this great and the active dev´s and roms are quite rare (sadly).
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Yeah i know the the Alpha has a stronger SoC, and is intended to be a flagship device. But tbh as long as the system runs smooth i dont give a damn at antutu scores and dont even play any games.
But i think the best precondition for a good longtime support from the community is a high popularity and alot of sold devices. Atleast i think thats the reason the SGS3 for example, is still up to date.
I dont really care about the support from the producers like Samsung, HTC, LG etc. They all do quite a bad job at holding their devices up to date. (Sony might be a exception) The community does this job alot better in my eyes.
As far as i can see it the Galaxy Alpha didnt sell this great and the active dev´s and roms are quite rare (sadly).
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For long and good community support, this device is not it for various reasons example high price, battery performance, uncommon and exynos chipset.
leripe said:
For long and good community support, this device is not it for various reasons example high price, battery performance, uncommon and exynos chipset.
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I run a CM developer build and my battery lasts for 2-4 days. I never had a device with such good battery life. The exynos chipset is great, cause the modem is separated from the main system. They don't share any memory. So the modem can't access the android filesystem.
same hire,2-4 days moderate use
our phone is optimised as iphones
normaly coz we dont have every week to flash custom roms hehehe
rorian & leripe are quite right,
if you check Alpha's sub forum u will notice that is already half dead
that's sad cause Alpha is a truly strong device, will an excellent design.
It has its flaws -as all devices have-, but that's expected.
The phone went live on the market with a high price, because was directly compared with S5,
so customers expected the price to be lower than s5.
The competition was already high in this range with cheaper models.
Then finally sammie put the tombstone on the device by announcing the end of production.
The device is good , im happy to own it, and i would buy it again for sure, but it hurts when im
clicking in xda and see no interesting from the community, i blame 101% samsung for this, EPIC marketing/scheduling fail.
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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Ipmats said:
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
kktkaran said:
CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
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You hate it, i love it, and the other way around. Just personal preferences. What i hate about Samsuns is just their update politics. They even got probs keeping their flagships up to date for longer than 1 year and even if they do, the updates are delayed for months.
Ipmats said:
Sorry if my englisch isn't that good.
I'll get my Alpha tomorrow. I think the forum is quite dead at the moment because everyone is waiting for the release of the cyanogan mod custom rom. I hope that with the release of CM sooner or later (maybe with lollipop) more and more different custom roms will be made for our device.
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Are they even working on an official cyanogemod 12 for alpha or is there any dev in here working on an unofficial port yet? If yes it would be great news and it would be a big argument to buy it over the A5.
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You hate it, i love it, and the other way around. Just personal preferences. What i hate about Samsuns is just their update politics. They even got probs keeping their flagships up to date for longer than 1 year and even if they do, the updates are delayed for months.
Are they even working on an official cyanogemod 12 for alpha or is there any dev in here working on an unofficial port yet? If yes it would be great news and it would be a big argument to buy it over the A5.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/orig-development/sources-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2933305/ dev working on a unofficial port.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-alpha/orig-development/sources-cyanogenmod-11-0-t2933305/ dev working on a unofficial port.
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hope it will be done soon
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hope it will be done soon
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They at least have it running but probably have a ways to go. But im glad we have a devs working on it.
Since the Galaxy A5 ain't going to be launched in the US I shouldn't get my hopes up to see a custom ROM right?
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Since the Galaxy A5 ain't going to be launched in the US I shouldn't get my hopes up to see a custom ROM right?
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I wouldnt say so. Yes there are alot of dev´s out there who only take care of the US prime devices, but there are even more from all over the world working on all kind of devices.
kktkaran said:
CM roms sucks ,
I love Stock touchwiz of Alpha .
Its king . Very fluid and fast and Has tons of features unlike other samsung phones which lags .
The reason behind why i choose Alpha over Nexus 5 is , i hate Stock android
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That is funny I gave up my nexus 5 for the Alpha and I cannot be any happier, and Im a developer developing games for android and they run very nicely on my alpha also looking forward to the Lollipop update.
Here's Antutu Benchmark for Galaxy A5
I've just come from iPhone 6 then note 4 and then decided I wanted a smaller device but android so I purchased the alpha after looking into buying the a5 the alpha is a better device by far. I'm very happy with this only wish it was abut heavier and so slot that is all but for now I'm enjoying this little beast
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