Has anyone got any recommendations on the best way to move my app data to SD Card on the Z2? For example the 1-2GB of data that many larger games download to internal storage, I'd like to put that onto the SD Card. I know there'll be a performance hit, but I want to be able to play around with it and at least give it a try to see how the performance is anyway.
I'm currently running the .402 firmware and am rooted without unlocking the bootloader.
I've tried FolderMount but the UI is rather sparse/counter-intuitive and the three apps I tried with on the free version seemed to either break entirely, or just re-downloaded their data back to internal storage.
I've checked out the ROM Toolbox, but the options to move to SD card are greyed out on every game I check, as is the convert to user app option (as I assume games downloaded from the Play Store are already set as User apps).
Folder mount should work fine, the problem is if you haven't set it to auto mount after boot, or you open the app before mounting is complete it won't find the data and thus redownloads it. Working fine with Co-pilot for me.
I did have it set to Auto-Mount after boot and was waiting for the progress bar to finish saying it had moved the data before trying to open the apps.
I think one of the main things I didn't like about the app was also the interface. It seemed impossible to actually undo anything once it was done, in the free version at least. Does the full version have a more fleshed out interface?
No, only difference is the limit on number of pairs is removed, long click on the pair should allow you to amend details of pairing. Yes UI is spare but it does work.
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I see a lot of talk about the memory and how much is available. but I was wondering about installation of apps-
1, Where are they installed to?
2. How much room is there for them?
3. Is this shared with the RAM memory?
I'm keen to upgrade to an Android phone, but if the app storage is small then this would put me off.
So far app storage for me has not been a problem and I have been downloading a few. I have 102MB still free. Not sure how much was there to begin with though...
The memory for app storage is separate from the RAM - like it should be on WiMo and Symbian handsets.
If you root the Hero you can store apps on the SD card, though I have not done this.
I think unless you go on a download frenzy, you will be fine.
Most apps will allow storage of their cache / data on the SD in their settings menu - such as FeedR (RSS feed app), Twidroid (Twitter app) etc.
it really is nothing to worry about...i had to test a magic for my work a few months ago and one of the tests was to fill the internal memory and then try and use the phone...they'd had issues with windows mobile obviously....and it took over 130 apps installed before it got anywhere near full and still it worked fine for standard use.
seriously, unless you are installing EVERYTHING, then you'll be fine!
That puts my mind at rest. Thank you.
If you do run out of memory, you could always root it. Not that im advocating that or anything ;P
I have a sprint Evo 3D, rooted with the SmoothCriminal rom.
The miniscule internal memory drove me crazy, it got to the point where after the ICS update I coudlen't update a SINGLE app because the internal memory always had under 10 megs free, no matter how much I deleted it would eat it up again, so I rooted it, and started re-installing everything.
I even set up a 4GB (Wish I could make it bigger) EXT4 partition to use with Link2SD.
For those that haven't heard of the Humble Indie Bundles, they allow you to purchase a set of apps (usually on Steam, but sometimes they do Android bundles) as a set for a price you decide, with a percentage going to charity.
Anyway, for Android, since these don't use the Google Play store, they are side-loaded from their own app (though they also let you just download the APK directly).
Now, the problem is that none of the games from this bundle seem to install to the SD card. I know that not all apps can be moved there, but if the "Move to SD" option is enabled instead of greyed out, that means they can, right? Also, many of these are large games, some of them 400MB, I am surprised it even defaults to internal instead of SD and would be shocked if they are the kind of apps that cannot be installed to SD considering their size.
Anyway, while Link2SD has no problem linking them to the 4ext partition on the SD card, I am unable to move these to "external" either by the built-in app manager, or the Link2SD app (apps installed using other methods, wheather they are linked or really on internal memory, don't seem to have this issue, such as Apps installed through Google Play whether they were linked to the 4ext partition or installed to the real internal memory). With the App manager it just says "Coulden't move app" (what a helpful error message) while trying from Link2SD gives me the error "INSTALL_FAILED_CONTAINER_ERROR".
Thanks to these massive apps forcing themselves on internal, the 4GB 4ext partition is actually full!
Any ideas what I can do? This is making me pull my hair out.
Does every Cyanogenmod rom allow that by default, or dit it die with version 11 or 12 being the last one?
If installing directly to SD is a no go, what good apps are there that do the transfer (and keep everything working, of course
I would recommend Link2SD.
I have used it with satisfaction on several low memory devices.
Not sure why, I find Link2SD and its options terribly confusing Well, I guess I'll need to learn.
There are a lot of guides and it's not so complex.
The best way to use it is to create a second partition on sd (consider a backup of your data on pc/otg/cloud/...).
As far as I can remember link2sd will ask you the filesystem type and then it will create some script to use it.
Then you can simply tap on an app from the list and press "link to sd".
From the apps list you can do a lot of operation like convert apps to system/user app, freeze/unfreeze, merge an updated app to rom etc. and using the filter this kind of operation will be very easy and fast.
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On the plus (paid) version you can link also data.
If you really want to maximize the free space on the device, this option is worth the few moneys.
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I've always used it on other devices using AOSP based roms, I don't know if there are problems using it with MIUI.
Thanks a lot! So, if you "link" (strange choice of word, it's not actually linking if it gets completely moved to SD and nothing remaing in main storage is it, that's what confused the hell out of me), app and its data to SD, will it be exactly like it was downloaded and installed on SD right from the store, like it used to be on Android versions that supported such thing? I know Cyanogenmod 11 did that perfectly, wonder if it's CM thing by default, or did they moved to new (stupid) concept of raping the main storage in later versions
EDIT: Any chance of "linking" bloody Whatsapp to SD completely? I'm in continuous maintenance mode of my wife phone because that **** consumes the storage for all it's worth.
C64Ever said:
Thanks a lot! So, if you "link" (strange choice of word, it's not actually linking if it gets completely moved to SD and nothing remaing in main storage is it, that's what confused the hell out of me), app and its data to SD, will it be exactly like it was downloaded and installed on SD right from the store, like it used to be on Android versions that supported such thing?
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Linking is not the same as moving.
For example, if you move to sd and then remove the sd from the device, widgets and app icons will be removed.
Maybe they will be restored when you insert your sd again, but the order could not be the same.
The same doesn't happen linking.
There are also other benefits, try googling for "link2sd faq".
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EDIT: Any chance of "linking" bloody Whatsapp to SD completely? I'm in continuous maintenance mode of my wife phone because that **** consumes the storage for all it's worth.
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I'm not using whatsapp so I don't know if it works.
I guess that your are talking about the "whatapp" directory on which msgs and media are store.
If link2sd can't solve your problem, I think that can try to move the whatsapp directory to sd and then manually create a link (keep the original name) on the original position.
Or you can try with apps like foldermount
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try looking at this thread
Maybe your can try xposed app..xinternalsd..swap sdcard to be phone memory
I love the SGP611, except it's low memory. I was anxiously awaiting MM and then so disappointed when they didn't allow you to utilize SD card more. My daughters tablet is used for apps and its stores such a sorry amount of apps. Is there any way I can change the memory to SD card without rooting it? I don't want to brick my daughters tablet and I'm not sure I'm confident enough to root it, plus we couldn't afford a new tablet if something went wrong. Any advice would be appreciated.
dude just revent to KITKAT via FLASHTOOL.it still is the best OS in every single category included battery life..
kos25k said:
dude just revent to KITKAT via FLASHTOOL.it still is the best OS in every single category included battery life..
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How does that help give it more memory/space?
SamraLee said:
How does that help give it more memory/space?
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I think you mean storage, not memory (two different things altogether)...that's why the other person recommended going back to 4.4. Pretty sure he was referring to better RAM management than 6.0.
Really, your best bet is to have her be mindful of what apps she actually uses. Most times there are games rarely ever opened hogging up storage.
Bandage said:
I think you mean storage, not memory (two different things altogether)...that's why the other person recommended going back to 4.4. Pretty sure he was referring to better RAM management than 6.0.
Really, your best bet is to have her be mindful of what apps she actually uses. Most times there are games rarely ever opened hogging up storage.
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Thank you, you are right I do mean storage. I wasn't aware of the different wording. All I really want is for my memory card to be able to have more on it. I wonder why Sony chose not to go with making external storage your main storage. Is there a way to force it to go to SD card without rooting?
oh sorry I had in nind that on kitkat you can transfer apps on sd.I saw it now and I can't.beside this,if you plan to root it,it worths cause in MM there is very high risk if you transfer apps to sd..
SamraLee said:
Thank you, you are right I do mean storage. I wasn't aware of the different wording. All I really want is for my memory card to be able to have more on it. I wonder why Sony chose not to go with making external storage your main storage. Is there a way to force it to go to SD card without rooting?
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What you can do SAFELY, is go into your App settings and change what storage they use. Not every App has the ability to do this. Some games have this option, Pokemon Go being one of them. You can move the data stored on device internally to instead be stored on SD card. This can add up if several apps can do this.
Anyways, it's a thought.
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What you can do SAFELY, is go into your App settings and change what storage they use. Not every App has the ability to do this. Some games have this option, Pokemon Go being one of them. You can move the data stored on device internally to instead be stored on SD card. This can add up if several apps can do this.
Anyways, it's a thought.
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Yes, thank you. I have done this already. I appreciate your advice. Is there anything I can do that is less risky than rooting, and perhaps a little more novice friendly, but isn't 100% risk free? My daughter is only 4, but she loves having loads of different apps and rememebers ones I've deleted.
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
Here's some tips for managing your available memory. Try these methods one after the other.
Open the notification by dragging the status bar downwards, then tap the notification. The storage menu opens.
Move files or apps to the memory card (SD card), if you have one inserted.
Move files to a computer (if you no longer need them on your device).
Delete files from the internal memory.
To move files from the device memory to the microSD card (if inserted):
Open Settings > Storage
Scroll down to the end of the menu and select Transfer data to SD card.
Select the items (photos, videos and music) you wish to move to the SD card.
Un-select a category if you see the information, that there is not enough memory on the SD card to transfer all files.
Select Transfer to start the transfer to the SD card.
To delete files from the device memory:
Open Settings > Storage > Internal Storage.
Tap a category to select what you want to delete from the device memory.
Depending on the category selected you have different options on how to proceed:
Apps: Selecting Apps will open the Apps menu. Here you can uninstall downloaded applications, if you do not need them anymore.
Pictures, videos: Selecting this option will open the Album application or Google Photos. In these applications you can delete pictures or videos to free device memory.
Audio: If you tap Audio you can see the audio tracks currently stored on your device memory. You can delete tracks using the File Commander or the Music / Walkman application.
Downloads: In this category you can see a list of all files you have downloaded to your Xperia™ phone or tablet. To delete a file just touch and hold it and then tap the trash bin icon in the top right corner.
Cached Data: Applications can aggregate quite huge amounts of cached data while working. If you select this category you can delete all cached data at once. This will not delete any personal data. Deleting the application cache from time to time is highly recommended to free device memory.
Misc.: In this category you can see files and folders which have been created manually on the device memory. To delete a file or folder just tick the checkbox in front of the file or folder name and tap the trash bin icon in the top row. Please be careful while deleting files and folders, as a deleted item cannot be recovered.
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Bandage said:
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
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I just bought a Z3c tablet and a 64GB SANDISK U3
90MB/S micro sd card, do you think I'll have issues?
Bandage said:
Here's a post I found that digs into the issue more. With some solves laid out in a tutorial. Sony seems to have disabled the feature in MM...this will enable it.
Adaptable Storage
You can also give the Sony suggested walk-through below a try...let us know if it helps.
You might also try using a lower capacity SD card...sometimes certain devices can be finicky with anything 32GB or over.
It looks like Sony devices have been mentioned in that regard.
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Note that as of Marshmallow you can definitely move apps to the SD card, but only the ones that Sony hasn't bundled as part of the ROM. However, even doing so doesn't change the cached files that those apps use... For example, I had Hearthstone installed, and while I can "move" the app to the SD card, it still unpacks over 1GB of files to the internal storage, which sort of defeats the purpose. I have a 64 GB card, and as long as its Class 10 or above you shouldn't have any issues with not being able to write or use it for media files, etc
I ended up removing the game all together, and I can't remove enough of the bloatware to free up space.
When you're in the Storage screen as listed in the above guide, you also can't set the SD card as default.. the option to do so doesn't appear within Sony's ROM.
I would suggest that OP looks at the games she has, and removes the larger ones, keeping more of the smaller ones installed. Otherwise, unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM is the only other choice if you want to stick with that hardware and want to free up more room
I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
jsalatas said:
I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
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You don't even need to do that. Just long press any app then >app info>storage etc...
jsalatas said:
I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
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Welcome to Android! :silly:
And for anyone tempted to try, the onboard 64 gig is far faster than any SD card you can currently buy. Many apps will run poorly, if at all. Moving apps to the SD card should be an absolute last resort, right after you've figured out which apps you really didn't need in the first place.
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And for anyone tempted to try, the onboard 64 gig is far faster than any SD card you can currently buy. Many apps will run poorly, if at all. Moving apps to the SD card should be an absolute last resort, right after you've figured out which apps you really didn't need in the first place.
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I tend to agree, I moved a much of apps to my SD now things run much slower I regret doing so.
Moving apps to SD is soooo kit kat....
Depends on what apps you moved i guess.
Ive notified NO CHANGE on the apps ive moved. WhatsApp is on the SSD card and behaves just as it did on internal.
Let's see.. samsung internet , Firefox, textra, all amazon apps, google drive, instagram, Snapchat, outlook, pandora, OneDrive...
NO DIFFERENCE at all.
Now there was one app, samsung gear 360, it did NOT like to be on storage card (kept force closing even though i was not using it when this was happening) so i moved it back to internal.
Also not ALL of the apps data is moved to the SD card. Some data of the app still lives on the SD.
EDIT: i dont use crackbook aka Facebook, so i cant speak on that, but i use WhatsApp, for example, and it opens up normally. No lag. None of the apps i moved are behaving out of normal. Again this is dependent on other factors, but in my daily use environment i dont notice any lag.
I also dont use the memory and storage optimizer (killing apps in the background from running)...
The internal storage is faster than sd unless you can find one of their new faster sd cards...if you move a lot of apps you may see performance loss...
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Depends on what apps you moved i guess.
Ive notified NO CHANGE on the apps ive moved. WhatsApp is on the SSD card and behaves just as it did on internal.
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I can't move WhatsApp on my S7 edge. Being wanting to. I get my N8 tomorrow, so even happier if I can now move it
Hey liquid guru
I can't move any apps with my 8.1 rooted phone ...
Is there a thread I'm not able to find on this.
Thanks