[Q] Verizon Updates on S4 - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hi,
I am currently rooted and froze all verizon updates so it didn't break root a while back. However, I haven't updated my and currently on andriod version 4.2.2.
I would like to finally update my phone to 4.4.2 but not sure how to go about it. If I take the verizon update, will I lose root still? Or what is the best method to update?
Thanks in advance

Best method is a matter of taste... And also depends on your base. mdk? Me7? Mdk sell phone buy a new one ..
I prefer using the no wipe tar files to update with. Benefit is that you keep your data, and in one shot you go straight to the most current update. Downside is you must download some software and use a PC. Others prefer to take each OTA one at a time. It's slow but "official" so if your on MDK you would download and update about 5 times.
Yes you will loose root,.. But towelroot works for NC5
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Batttie said:
Best method is a matter of taste... And also depends on your base. mdk? Me7? Mdk sell phone buy a new one ..
I prefer using the no wipe tar files to update with. Benefit is that you keep your data, and in one shot you go straight to the most current update. Downside is you must download some software and use a PC. Others prefer to take each OTA one at a time. It's slow but "official" so if your on MDK you would download and update about 5 times.
Yes you will loose root,.. But towelroot works for NC5
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Thanks for the quick reply Batttie... What data will I lose? and is there anyway to keep my set-up? I have titanium backup as well as safestrap.

If you're on Verizon and MDK baseband, maybe you should flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721118
Looks a lot easier to me - what does everyone else think? Personally I wouldn't give up my MDK baseband for anything!

usualsuspec said:
Hi,
I am currently rooted and froze all verizon updates so it didn't break root a while back. However, I haven't updated my and currently on andriod version 4.2.2.
I would like to finally update my phone to 4.4.2 but not sure how to go about it. If I take the verizon update, will I lose root still? Or what is the best method to update?
Thanks in advance
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if you're on MDK you NEED TO KEEP IT. I can't stress enough how important that bootloader is. NEVER TAKE AN OTA ON MDK.
If you're on ME7 or newer then yeah you could OTA. you'll lose root but your data will be salvaged. i think you have to go to 4.3 before 4.4 so that's a thing

skepticmisfit said:
if you're on MDK you NEED TO KEEP IT. I can't stress enough how important that bootloader is. NEVER TAKE AN OTA ON MDK.
If you're on ME7 or newer then yeah you could OTA. you'll lose root but your data will be salvaged. i think you have to go to 4.3 before 4.4 so that's a thing
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Right now I am 4.2.2 ME7 so what you are saying is that I can take the OTA, lose root but not lose data? And easily re-root using towelroot?

usualsuspec said:
Right now I am 4.2.2 ME7 so what you are saying is that I can take the OTA, lose root but not lose data? And easily re-root using towelroot?
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yup

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yup
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Hope someone can answer this as well, I believe I froze the OTA updates through tibu but I cannot figure out what I did. Does anyone know what file would have been frozen to stop receiving updates?

usualsuspec said:
Hope someone can answer this as well, I believe I froze the OTA updates through tibu but I cannot figure out what I did. Does anyone know what file would have been frozen to stop receiving updates?
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Look to see if these two files are frozen/disabled: FWUpgrade.apk and SDM.apk
This one could be frozen as well: fota.client.apk

Joe_6pak said:
Look to see if these two files are frozen/disabled: FWUpgrade.apk and SDM.apk
This one could be frozen as well: fota.client.apk
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I like seeing people that ask a lot of qurations come back and help other people out. It's far too rare in the xda community these days. :thumbsup:

First I wanted to thank everyone for their responses, I was able to unfreeze the OTA. However, I am now currently on MI1 and every time I try and update via OTA , I get a "failed" message with the Android guy on his back.
Any idea how I can get this update?

Same thing hapenned to me. I fixed this by unrooting and factory reseting my s4 and it updated without any problems
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UnlinkedEnergy said:
Same thing hapenned to me. I fixed this by unrooting and factory reseting my s4 and it updated without any problems
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Did you lose everything when doing a factory reset?

Yup, factory resetting deletes user data and the internal memory. If you have an sd card then you can transfer your files onto there so it is not lost in the process
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usualsuspec said:
First I wanted to thank everyone for their responses, I was able to unfreeze the OTA. However, I am now currently on MI1 and every time I try and update via OTA , I get a "failed" message with the Android guy on his back.
Any idea how I can get this update?
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Same issue many of us have had with ota.
Some where along the line, and a system app has changed. If all the system apps aren't perfect, it will fail during ota.
Since you don't really know which app is causing it, the only way to update via ota is by doing a factory reset.
This will restore all the system apps back to normal, and then you can ota. It will wipe everything.
Use Tibu to save your apps and data, change the back up location to the extsdcard. Backup your texts and call logs using Smsbackup from the play store. And move anything on the emulated sdcard0 slot of the phone back to the extsdcard.
If your using a custom launcher like Nova, you can save your home screens to the sdcard as well and fully restore after you reroot.
If you don't have a custom launcher, and just take screen shots of your home screens, you can use those to remind you of your layouts.
Its not as complicated as it seems, and shouldn't take very long over decent wifi.
But a factory reset (through the phone, and not a custom recovery) will wipe the internal storage, so make sure everything is on the external sdcard.

May I ask which "Smsbackup" you recommend?
ymDroid said:
Same issue many of us have had with ota.
Some where along the line, and a system app has changed. If all the system apps aren't perfect, it will fail during ota.
Since you don't really know which app is causing it, the only way to update via ota is by doing a factory reset.
This will restore all the system apps back to normal, and then you can ota. It will wipe everything.
Use Tibu to save your apps and data, change the back up location to the extsdcard. Backup your texts and call logs using Smsbackup from the play store. And move anything on the emulated sdcard0 slot of the phone back to the extsdcard.
If your using a custom launcher like Nova, you can save your home screens to the sdcard as well and fully restore after you reroot.
If you don't have a custom launcher, and just take screen shots of your home screens, you can use those to remind you of your layouts.
Its not as complicated as it seems, and shouldn't take very long over decent wifi.
But a factory reset (through the phone, and not a custom recovery) will wipe the internal storage, so make sure everything is on the external sdcard.
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Hi & Thanks for the quick step-by-step,
May I ask which specific "Smsbackup" app from the play store you recommend? (a link? Or name the developer or whatever?) I want to jump up from 4.2.2 rooted as well and I already have Titanium Backup PRO, but when I searched the Play Store for "Smsbackup" I got a load of results
(Actually, unless I'm incredibly dense and have missed a memo, I practically ALWAYS have trouble selecting apps from Google Play. I find the search results to be rubbish and even knowing the app name unhelpful because of the copy-cat namers who seem to flood the store with wannabe crap that just sounds like what you're looking for. Hope I'm wrong about this and there's actually a correct way to find what you want there. Would hate to think Google is suddenly incapable of conducting simple search functions well. *lol*)
Anyway, thanks in advance if you can help me backup my txts and call logs. That really would be a great assist. BTW, do you know, will the resulting backups contain attached pictures, and etc., for the txt threads?
Best regards,
Joe C.

TiBu can backup and restore all your SMS and MMS messages complete with the pictures as well as your call log.

Related

what apps are safe to get rid of?

ok, so i just rooted and unlocked my phone, and i am gonna start removing some bloatware from the phone, but am concerned because i don't want to delete an app that i think is bloatware, but it is tied into another appp and then both apps won't work.
for example, if i delete viewdini, i don't know if that will affect how i watch videos on the phone.
so what i am asking is basically if there is a list of all the stock samsung/amazon/google/verizon bloatware apps that i can safely delete?
thanks!
just downloaded the file from the cleanrom build of what scott removed... is it safe to say if i remove these i will be ok?
The pro version of titanium backup is ideal for this. You can freeze apps before you remove them to find out if they're important or not. I don't know of an official cheat sheet of what's safe to remove but if you look at ROMs and what the devs have removed, that's a good start to let you know what you can do without.
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If you delete an application you will NOT get Verizon phone updates. It's better to freeze the applications with Titanium Backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298150
this thread contains a list of apps safe that are supposed to be safe to remove. remove them at your own risk.
Excellent, thank you all for the help! I deleted the obvious bloatware last night, I will delve into the others at a later time.
a.demarco said:
Excellent, thank you all for the help! I deleted the obvious bloatware last night, I will delve into the others at a later time.
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Deleted or froze? If you deleted you better habe a backup or you wont get Verizon updates.
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steveperrry said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298150
this thread contains a list of apps safe that are supposed to be safe to remove. remove them at your own risk.
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I've just rooted my device for the first time, I'm using Titanium Pro to freeze stuff on this list (I figured freezing would be safest being a noob)...but more than half of them dont even appear in Titanium, and none of the files show .apk on them. Is there another method being used to see these files?
What is the advantage to freezing them vs. disabling them in the regular system manager?
Parafly said:
What is the advantage to freezing them vs. disabling them in the regular system manager?
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Some applications can't be disabled in the system. So you have to freeze them instead. Freezing allows you to unfreeze them if Verizon releases a software update. If you delete them however you will never get a software update.
DarkMenace said:
Some applications can't be disabled in the system. So you have to freeze them instead. Freezing allows you to unfreeze them if Verizon releases a software update. If you delete them however you will never get a software update.
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The only reason for a sotware uodate is if you plan on staying stock. Mind you verizon will more than likely patch root access and the loki method of bypassing the bootloader in future updates. In my experience rom devs usually stay on top of adding all must have features that would be included in ota updates without loosing root and recovery.
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The only reason for a sotware uodate is if you plan on staying stock. Mind you verizon will more than likely patch root access and the loki method of bypassing the bootloader in future updates. In my experience rom devs usually stay on top of adding all must have features that would be included in ota updates without loosing root and recovery.
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True but someone will always find a new method. Voodo OTA rootkeeper might even work to restore it.
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Options for new s4 re: root and tethering

I have a new 32gb s4 on order right now. I have a few questions.
1. How can I tell if I my new phone has the VRUAME7 update? If it's not updated I was thinking about rooting, installing voodoo ota and then updating since on prior posts that seems to work.
2. If I'm not rooted what's the best way to tether the s4?
3. I am mostly rooting for a few apps I like to use and to to do anything with ROMs. One thing I was hopping to was transfer my app data and phone/text logs via titanium backup. If I'm not rooted is there a good way to do this?
Thanks.
UNCMo96 said:
I have a new 32gb s4 on order right now. I have a few questions.
1. How can I tell if I my new phone has the VRUAME7 update? If it's not updated I was thinking about rooting, installing voodoo ota and then updating since on prior posts that seems to work.
2. If I'm not rooted what's the best way to tether the s4?
3. I am mostly rooting for a few apps I like to use and to to do anything with ROMs. One thing I was hopping to was transfer my app data and phone/text logs via titanium backup. If I'm not rooted is there a good way to do this?
Thanks.
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1) Go to About Phone and look I am hesitant to use voodoo. I have seem 1 post where it didn't work and 1 where it did. That's not good enough for me.
update: One thing I have read about using voodoo and then upgrading is that while you might be able to restore root you will lose recovery which means no chance of using any custom ROM's until a Recovery/Root method is developed.
2) Question >> are you on an Unlimited plan? If not the WiFi tethering is included.
3) Not sure. I know that there are other backup programs but I am not sure if they cover everything your looking for. Some do just the phone/text items.
Good luck.
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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1) Go to About Phone and look I am hesitant to use voodoo. I have seem 1 post where it didn't work and 1 where it did. That's not good enough for me.
update: One thing I have read about using voodoo and then upgrading is that while you might be able to restore root you will lose recovery which means no chance of using any custom ROM's until a Recovery/Root method is developed.
2) Question >> are you on an Unlimited plan? If not the WiFi tethering is included.
3) Not sure. I know that there are other backup programs but I am not sure if they cover everything your looking for. Some do just the phone/text items.
Good luck.
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UNCMo96 said:
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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Under Build Number look for JDQ39.I545VRUAME7
I have heard that FoxFi works but I don't know if it works on this release. Should.
Your welcome
UNCMo96 said:
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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I am unlimited data. I use Portable Wifi. I am rooted with Motochopper. I did not accept the ota upgrade (well, I accepted it then froze the updater w Ttbu).
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[Q] Wifi Connectivity issues with Cyanogenamod 10.2

Flashed My wife and I's OG's with CM 10.2. She was coming from stock 4.0.1 I was coming from 4.1.2
My has no problems. Hers wouldnt connect to wifi even though it could pick up the signals.
Last night her Kernel crashed. I figured maybe I didnt fully wipe her files clean so I rebooted her into recovery and did a factory wipe,
cleaning Dalvik, etc. and reinstalled.
Still no wifi connectivity.
Is this a driver, antennae, modem issue? Please help, I've run out of ideas.
Did you flash the correct radio?
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Hmmmmm
Dr0!dFreek said:
Did you flash the correct radio?
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I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.1.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
brionbey said:
I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Roms for the OG don't contain modems, your wife's phone would still have ICS modem. If you had the ota to 4.1 on your phone it will have jb modem.
brionbey said:
I just used the one that came with CM.
Do you think since she was coming from 4.01 and I from 4.2 that I had the correct radio already that's why I have no issues?
And she still is running the 4.01 radio which is incompatible with android 4.3 which is what CM is running?
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Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
-edit- this is of course, if you are on AT&T
also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
[r.]GimP said:
Yes, given that you avoided bricking your phone not having the rpm/tz partitions from the ota update, she would also have the ics modem, which hopefully is the only thing wrong, and is an easy fix.
matter of fact I'm not aware of anyone trying the ics modem on 4.3, or using 4.3 without the updated partitions
Still, (as a purely personal preference) I would restore the backup from before you flashed her to CM 10.2, then call up AT&T and make them push the OTA update, then backup again and reflash CWM.
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also, you can probably make a nandroid of CM 10.2, restore to stock, get the OTA, and restore CM 10.2 and you wouldn't lose anything, since it only restores kernel,system,data,cache, etc it would be unaffected by the OTA.
technically this remains true for the LGNPST/teenybin route, but i haven't used lgnpst, i prefer forcing at&t to provide the OTA update since if it bricks then, they owe you a phone
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Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
adfurgerson said:
Just like to pass on a little info I learned recently, both Shellnutt2's cm10.2 and dvhexer's "alternate" cm10.2 use an e975 kernel.and can be flashed to phones without updating partitions.
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Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
How does this sound?
[r.]GimP said:
Yeah I considered that, still terrifying to me though, but it would explain still having the ics modem.
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Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
brionbey said:
Ok, Just got back from work.
Today, Device crashed twice. Once a kernel error, once something about watchdog.
The kernel crash occurred when using the CM 10.4 camera. The same thing happened to my wifes device.
What I'd like to do it flash the Stock Rom Back with Stock modems to both phones.
Unfortunately, my backup didnt take because of lack of space or something, so I need to find the stock 4.1.2 rom.
I need action steps if possible.
I'm assuming I need:
4.1.2 Stock Rom for my device.w/ google apps
4.0.1 Stock for my wifes's./w google apps
I'm also assuming that I'd follow the same steps:
factory reset, flash the rom + apps reboot.
I'm using TWRP
If all that goes well I'd attempt to have at&t push the update to my wife's phone ( would I need to reset her bootloader?)
Then Reflash CM 10.2 with appropriate modems, and google apps.
Please catch any errors in this logic. Also Links to stock Rom's would be appreciated.
If anyone has any suggestions to a better custom rom then CM 10.2 I'm open to suggestions. I have not found it to be as stable as I would of liked...
FYI to make things worse, now my pc won't recognize that my device is attached.... trying not to panic.
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Don't panic, you can always load onto the SD card externally, with a microsd to SD adapter or through TWRP/CWM with "mount usb storage" mode. Failing both of those things I'm fairly certain one of your two phones will be enough to load the SD card for the other phone if needed.
I'm thinking everything you need is going to be the LGNPST route now anyway, and that being said you may as well just flash them both to stock 4.1.2 in that case. First things first, you definitely want to backup before anything gets out of hand, if twrp isn't getting it then pull with adb. Quick breakdown of that below.
The universal drivers straight off the LG site work just fine, but in my experience to get the adb part happy you need to click on your devices, and find your phone, whether it says LG/Nexus4/MTP, doesn't matter. Open it and click on the hardware tab, it should list 3 devices.
unknown (or adb if you're lucky)
Your phone
USB Composite Device
If the top isnt some variation with ADB in the name, double click it, then change settings, it may say drivers not loaded, so on the driver tab we're going to give it one.
Update driver, and it will ask how, the option on the bottom is "browse my comp for driver software" and after that the bottom option again is "let me pick from a list..." I think then it shows a split list, the device type should be ADB something, and if you installed the LG universal drivers then near the bottom you will have "LGE Mobile Sooner Single ADB Interface" windows will complain because it couldn't figure out that its the right driver, confirm you want to use it and it will then show "this device is working properly" go ahead and close all those windows and it will update on the first one with the three devices listed the next time you open it.
At this point you need the adb application itself, I usually just download the whole android SDK personally, but where you get it from doesn't matter. If you're booted in android, make sure adb has root access in developer settings, and debugging is enabled.
open a command promt, for the sake of easy navigate to the folder where you put adb, in windows, or in the SDK example, /android/sdk/platform-tools/ hold shift and right-click on an empty space and select "open command window here"
If android is running, type "adb root" without quotes
and adb will inform you its restarting, if in twrp you will already be root.
Type "adb devices" and as long as its not blank you should be good
again, for the sake of easy "adb backup -shared -all"
and let it do its thing, it should start creating a default file named "backup.ab" it's bound to take awhile as -shared should grab all the sd card contents just to be safe.
Disaster recovery aside, I would use a combination of Titanium backup root, and "backup your mobile" - especially add the second option in addition to titanium, thats one of the only free backup apps that can get MMS as well as SMS, and restore them.
Again, if you're having issue with the computer normally seeing the device, these are still good tools, save to external sd card, remove card and transfer manually to your computer.
ok.. now that all your stuff is *hopefully* now redundantly backed up, depending on the stock image you find, you can either push it via fastboot commands or flash with lgnpst. I know the images are in our forum, most likely in the lgnpst thread. just follow through that and read well ahead before performing each step, you'll be ok.
I believe fastboot can relock your bootloader in all off one command, i don't have the answer if its necessary or not to receive the OTA, but having skimmed the lgnpst thread in the past, I'm positive people have done the flash and then had the OTA pushed from AT&T so they could get up to 4.1.2 for the official JB and partitions. Like I said in the beginning, your call if you want to skip that and just lgnpst to 4.1.2 since you're there anyway. Also, keep an eye out for one of the recent restore to stock / RPM/TZ partition threads, I think shellnutt making a cwm/twrp flashable zip to do the same thing lgnpst teeny bin would without even needing lgnpst.
So, barring a complete hardware failure, dont be scared. Get your data for now, then on to the next step.
Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Best xda technical support post I have seen in a long time. Thanks, gimp.
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Agreed.
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I agree also! feels great to have some help with this. attempting fixes I'll report back.
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I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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brionbey said:
I got stuck on the adb driver part. Through searching I found the backup I made for her. Can I restore her backup. Flash the jellybean rom to it, creating the neccessary. Partitions in the process, along with the correct radio, and then reflash Cm? My main concern is getting her wifi up. She's racked up 6gigs in 2 days herself! Were on the 4.gig shared plan. Or possibly just flash the radio...
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yes that sounds fine, in that case I would just make the apps and messages backups with titanium/backup your mobile
I'm not 100% if the lgnpst flash to JB wipes user data or not, but after that you can flash pretty much ANY rom for our device, then just download titanium/backup your mobile from the app store and point it to the directories on the sd card, and restore selectively.
For the most part you can move everything from /sdcard to /external_sd and move it back over when you're done, I think the JB radio (or modem, both terms apply) works very well for everything I've used (and yes they play a significant part in wifi and gps also), and I was a pretty hardcore flash-a-holic for a really good while, still haven't tried the hybrid modems and people rave about how well they work. Sounds like a good plan you got going, once you're up with the partitions and the JB modem from 4.1.2 you really should have no issues, and once you have that freedom, and she will as well to try out all manner of ROM's, you'll find you get really good at backup/restore out of necessity. Happy flashing.
If you need any specifics, aside from the step by steps of the other threads I'm glad to lend advice, just let me know
-edit- you can make multiple backups with each program by the way, titanium and backup your mobile.
Titanium free says only one backup per app, but in reality just hit the batch button on the top right, looks like a check mark, have it get all apps and system settings, then just move the whole folder you set for titanium off of the device for safe keeping. This way you can backup everything running right now, then if you want to restore the other one, you could even do it again, if you just wanted to cherry pick some stuff, then flash, etc. Titanium free wont let you make multiple copies of the same app, but it also WONT delete extras if you already have them, so if you dump a few titanium folders into eachother and merge them, you can then choose any of the backup files or data or both from each date.
The reason I use both programs is as I said earlier, backup your mobile handles SMS/MMS very efficiently, and occasionally I'll let it grab a few user apps, and system apps, because when it restores them, it restores for example, flash player from LG stock rom, as a user app, and it continues to work flawlessly. Titanium can't get over it being a system app, and sucks at restoring flash.
However, titanium is GREAT for also saving user data, not just the program itself. ie.. savegame states for any app you have that doesnt explicitly sync online, or the login data for facebook, or adfree with the most current hosts so you dont have to redownload or even type your logins, very convenient.
My personal order of operations before I flash a new rom, or even upgrade to a new version with a clean flash instead of a "dirty" is to fully backup all apps/system data with titanium, then hit ByM for contacts/sms/mms/bookmarks/user dictionary/apps
then a nandroid backup, since it is basically a perfect snapshot itself, just like turning the phone off, and back on.
after rom flash / gapps, I boot, setup google real quick, goto app store and cancel the 5 million downloads, except for titanium/ByM
after those download I roll my messages/user dictionary/contacts/ selective apps I know i'll use, and the same with a few from titanium.
This way I'm less bloated with crap I probably don't use everyday, and if i need it, its a few taps away. It's a very painless process and a lot of peace of mind having everything safe, and allows you to try alot of unstable crap knowing how easy you can always roll your CWM/TWRP backup over to the device like you never left.
Sorry, I'm a fan of ranting. Pics for adb driver steps explained in previous post, and the backup part, for reference if you ever need them.
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Ok, I'm keepin cool but it seems to be one thing after another
I made the backup before the original flash.
I see it in the folder. When I restored it, it is the same rom that I'm on CM 10.2
I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks for the images, that really helped unstuck me.
Question: I've checked the threads looking for the stock [ROM] 4.1.2 and Gapps for E970 and can't find them anywhere.
At this point I just need a doOver. I have to get my wife her phone back, ASAP and if I brick by some chance, I'll never hear the end of it.
EVER.
Or how about just flashing the radio? Can I do that to at least get her Wifi?
Here is the flashable jellybean radio by g33k3r.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2220048
I recommend still updating her to the jellybean partition layout when you get a chance, but this should get you working WiFi at the very least.
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Flash the Radio
Thanks SnowLeopard.
So all I need to do is just boot into recovery using TWRP and Install the radio, or should I factor reset and install the radio at the same time as the rom?
Thanks Again Guys. (or gals)
Lgnpst doesn't touch the /data partition.
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the modem work great.
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At gimp, followed instructions exactly, computer recognize device, only thing left to do is run teeny bit, but getting error path not found
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[Q] Can I update rooted phone with system apps removed via Titanium Backup?

On MJ7 but it keeps pestering me about the MK2 "upgrade." I've removed most of the bloatware via TB (not frozen: everything is backed-up and un-installed) so my question is whether I need to reinstall all these apps before running the "upgrade" or whether I can run the "upgrade" with my current state of affairs?
The last post I found with a similar question is from 2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186450
Thanks!
permafrost91 said:
On MJ7 but it keeps pestering me about the MK2 "upgrade." I've removed most of the bloatware via TB (not frozen: everything is backed-up and un-installed) so my question is whether I need to reinstall all these apps before running the "upgrade" or whether I can run the "upgrade" with my current state of affairs?
The last post I found with a similar question is from 2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186450
Thanks!
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It seems there are some people having problems and some people who do not. I was lucky and took the OTA with no problems, but I did have Survival Mode turned on in Super SU. I have never seen a list of what apps successful people have removed vs what apps unsuccessful people have removed. I've removed a few of the Verizon apps and frozen a few apps as well.
Not a great answer but it's all I got. Good luck.
permafrost91 said:
On MJ7 but it keeps pestering me about the MK2 "upgrade." I've removed most of the bloatware via TB (not frozen: everything is backed-up and un-installed) so my question is whether I need to reinstall all these apps before running the "upgrade" or whether I can run the "upgrade" with my current state of affairs?
The last post I found with a similar question is from 2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186450
Thanks!
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It's my understanding to take OTA...The stock needs to be pretty much stock. Mk2 not any thing big. Have you thought just freezing the programs that are giving you the notification?
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decaturbob said:
Have you thought just freezing the programs that are giving you the notification?
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What do you mean by that? No apps have notified me of anything yet. I was just wondering how stock stock needed to be for the OTA.
As far as my progress is concerned, I have restored all my backups via Titanium Backup, even unrooted via SuperSU but the OTA still fails with error code 402. Interestingly, the bootloader still shows the "custom" logo with the unlocked lock symbol so I think it has something to do with that although at this point I'm not sure what is "custom" about my phone ...
permafrost91 said:
On MJ7 but it keeps pestering me about the MK2 "upgrade." I've removed most of the bloatware via TB (not frozen: everything is backed-up and un-installed) so my question is whether I need to reinstall all these apps before running the "upgrade" or whether I can run the "upgrade" with my current state of affairs?
The last post I found with a similar question is from 2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186450
Thanks!
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You need to flash the no wipe stock tar for mj7. There is a post in android dev for it. That will get rid of the custom screen and allow the ota to Take.
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Can OTA notification be stopped or ignored?

Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Yes, once you root the phone you can download Titanium backup (full version) and freeze SDM
As I believe that the SDM is the file that manages the communication for updates
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Well that depends. Progress is definitely being made towards another bootloader unlock. However, the 4.4 update would possibly introduce even more security that the devs haven't seen before.
But using titanium or just renaming sdm.apk to sdm.bak with a file explorer (must be rooted) will stop the updates.
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
Terri M said:
Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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newshook said:
I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
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Your BEST bet is to use TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all the files you want to "get rid of". Once you make those backups, you can have TitaniumBackup uninstall those apps. Now if something happens you can easily reinstall those apps through TitaniumBackup. You can also have TitaniumBackup backup location to be your extSdCard and not on your phone, this way your backups aren't eating up space on the sdcard (internal sdcard)
I have frozen ( thru TitaniumBackup) all the apps you are talking about and I'm not having any problems.
Hope this helps!
Mistertac said:
Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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rest assured, that every subsequent firmware release by samsung/verizon will lock down whatever exploits we are using even more.
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
bgmg said:
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
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Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
k1mu said:
Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
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I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
bgmg said:
I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
k1mu said:
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Ran a search across my whole device for OTApkg.zip. No file found.
Please allow me to restate a few things:
1) I have no subfolder under "/cache". I do not have a "fumo" or "fota". I have nothing in my "/cache" folder.
2) On my Sprint SPH-L720T Tri Band phone, I do not have a "SDM" app process. When I type "SDM" in my titanium backup, it brings up a app process called "System Update 1.8.8". I don't know if I should have froze this, but I did.
3) I ran a search across my whole device for *.zip to return all .zip files. I did find a "/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip". Not sure if I should do anything with that.
k1mu said:
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Also, I am rooted. I used your saferoot two months ago. I just went into my file manager app and found a root option. I turned it on and the file manager app requested super user privilege which I granted. Now I can see sub folders under cache, but none of them match your description.
I do see a obvious file called " 0de568e284baa2bbcb25305b099be7cc415386de.USER_L720T_SPT_MK5_to_NAF_Update_FWD.zip". See enclosed pic.
I moved it to my sd card. Do you think I'm OK to press the update option now to make it go away?
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Just freeze sdm in titanium
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Maduro78 said:
Just freeze sdm in titanium
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There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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bgmg said:
There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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This is a misplaced thread.
bgmg doesn't have a Verizon phone, it's a Sprint phone. That's why suggestions to freeze SDM/FWUpdate don't work.

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