[Q]Enable silmutaneously wifi (receiving) and wifi tethering (emiting) on android - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How to enable wifi (receiving) and wifi tethering (emiting) silmutaneously on android phone?
Hi everybody.
Newbee here.
I've searched everywhere on google but nothing:
Please don't ask the reason I want it for.
Telling question as clearly as I can:
How to:
1. turn on wifi receiving on my android phone
and
2. turn on tethering (by wifi) emiting
on my android smartphone.
Most android phones cannot do that. Why?
ZTE Mimosa V-857 can.
Archos Titanium can't.
How to make this?
Meaning, having silmutaneously
1. Wifi receiving by android smartphone (e.g. by a wifi hotspot)
and
2. Tethering (wifingly) emiting by android smartphone (eg. to a laptop)
without shutting down of one (1. or 2.) after turning on the other (2. or 1.)
Thanks a lot.

jimmiss10 said:
How to enable wifi (receiving) and wifi tethering (emiting) silmutaneously on android phone?
Hi everybody.
Newbee here.
I've searched everywhere on google but nothing:
Please don't ask the reason I want it for.
Telling question as clearly as I can:
How to:
1. turn on wifi receiving on my android phone
and
2. turn on tethering (by wifi) emiting
on my android smartphone.
Most android phones cannot do that. Why?
ZTE Mimosa V-857 can.
Archos Titanium can't.
How to make this?
Meaning, having silmutaneously
1. Wifi receiving by android smartphone (e.g. by a wifi hotspot)
and
2. Tethering (wifingly) emiting by android smartphone (eg. to a laptop)
without shutting down of one (1. or 2.) after turning on the other (2. or 1.)
Thanks a lot.
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Because the wifi tether needs cellular data to transmit and almost every phone disconnects wifi to use data and vice versa. You can use PDANet to pass through your wifi connection to a PC, but that's about it.

es0tericcha0s said:
Because the wifi tether needs cellular data to transmit and almost every phone disconnects wifi to use data and vice versa. You can use PDANet to pass through your wifi connection to a PC, but that's about it.
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Thanks a lot for your reply.
Downloaded PDANetplus
(no PDANet found on google play)
on smartphone.
but while all (in laptop) seem to be comected with "FoxFi.." network (created by tethering from smartphone)
no pages are dowloaded.
Shall I have to make smthing else on my laptop?
Thanks

Seems to have to make something extra on my 64-bit win7 laptop( "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET" error message on downloading pages). Correct?
PDANetplus requires Wifi (receiving) enable firstly,
after that connects to home wifi (while turning off Wifi receiving icon from smartphone)
and turns on tethering (wifi mode chosen) in a new "FoxFi.." SSID.
"FoxFi.." is emitting , so that laptop can get into it,
and all seem ok
but no pages downloaded on laptop!!!
To be honest I want to make this procedure with an android 2.3 home (DECT) smartphone [Sagemcom Alium].
DECT signal (1800-1900 MHz) can reach longer distances than WiFi signal (2400MHz)
so that I can receive (by DECT) signal the WiFi from another house (30m away) where no wifi repeater can reach reliably!
My question is
if I can make coexist WiFi (receiving) and Tethering (emitting) on this "smartphone" [Sagemcom Alium].
Why other smartphones (e.g. ZTE Mimosa V-857 android 2.3) can make coexistance (wifi and tethering [wifinly]) without any PDANet
and most of smartphones can't?
Is there a safety issue behind?
Thanks again.
Sorry for the many words!

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WiFi connection & Hotspot at same time?

Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I don't think so. This sort of negates the purpose of the hotspot function. If you have a wifi connection on your phone, then that same wifi connection is available to other devices. If this is the case, why do you need ANOTHER hotspot? Besides, I think the hotspot needs the wifi radio to serve up the hotspot. I'm not sure, but I don't think it can do that and connect to another wifi connection at the same time.
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
DylanYoung said:
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
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I don't think you understand what I've said.
I'm not certain any software hack would do this. I'm pretty sure you would need two wifi radios to do this. One to receive/transmit to/from whatever hotspot your phone is connected to, and one to receive/transmit as the active hotspot of the phone. There is only one wifi radio in the phone, so.... ?
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I think you are misunderstanding between android wifi cards and PC cards.PC wifi cards can do this work while mobile phones does not because they simply don't have the same hardware.Windows vista/7/8 for example can create hotspot and connect to another network at the same time without problems but mobile phones (not a problem with Android OS) cannot.
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
RedBull2001 said:
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The point is, tethering does not use antenna. In other word we just want to use android device as wifi router while mobile data is not available and our PC don't have wifi antenna
The problem is tethering need to enable with wifi hotspot and it then disable wifi even the tethering does not use antenna. Understand situation now? I think this is more like a bug
Another problem I face is. I want to use my android phone as wifi hotspot. But then I want to use ES file explorer to browse into target device. And It can't find any device while I am being the hotspot myself. I should able to see all device connect to me as I'm the server but I can't. Because when I'm being wifi hotspot I need to disconnect myself from lan network and that's suck
Hotspot and Wi-Fi at the same time
I'll tell you what problems it would solve for my fiance and myself... We live in an area that is rural and surrounded by reservation land. There is no way to get internet here except through our mobile hotspots via our phone provider and the tower less than a mile away. We also use Chromecast and a canon pixma cloud ready printer, however, in order to connect to them, we must turn on our hotspots, yet the printer and chromecast force the Wi-Fi to come on when trying to connect, which then
I'm not certain any software hathen automatically turns the hotspots off, and visa~versa. If allowed to have both on at the same time, connection would be optimal. I've found a way to trick chromecast, but I have to be quick, however, I still cannot connect to the printer. Rather than having every product company change how the connection works, it would be much easier for the two functions to work together if we want them to, without one shutting the other down. That's an example of a problem it would solve.
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
hotspot &wifi simultaneously.
I have the same situation. Do not want to buy yet another device to be able to use chromecast, or any other devices that require both internet access and WiFi! My internet access is my hotspot! Any new info on this? I am rural as well, no cable etc, and my satellite provider has no service even "way out here!" Ha ha
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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This is possible on windows OS with wifi adapter of inbuild device.. but dont know how to accomplish the same on android
Got the Solution Guys!
I suggest you to Use Alcatel OT918N
It must be rooted and having a Custom Rom
(Usually so Easy)
And Then Enjoy a Normal Wifi and A Hotspot At the same Time!!!
Enjoy!!!
Btw The Alcatel OT918N is popularly known as Idea 3G Smartfone Id918 in India!!!
Apple product do this already. When visiting client offices I had to connected my computer to the hotspot regularly because no one knew the password to the wifi. Really seems like a no-brainer, but apparently Google missed the obvious.
Try NetShare - no-root-tethering on the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik
Haha, I also had this thought back in 2011 when I bought my SGSII.
I had tried before and it doesn't work.
I am not sure with other devices, but for SGSII, the answer is "No".
Best regard
Aren't we all glad this is now possible... Like with the OnePlus8 Pro

[Q] Wifi sharing via wifi on Android

Hi all,
I know the thread's title may sound ridiculous, but it's really not.
I'm looking for a way to share my mobile wifi connection (I'm currently using the latest HTC one device) via wifi.
Meaning, I'm connected to a wifi network from my Android device, and I want to share this connection with other laptop/pad/mobile devices via wifi.
So my device acts both as wifi client to a hot-spot infra, and also like a hotspot infra for other devices.
In the past, I did it successfully using my iphone and MyWi app.
I've spent quite some time goggling for a solution, but non of the threads/articles I've read really address this problem, as most of them refer to sharing the mobile data connection rather than the wifi connection.
this is the closest thread I've found (from 2010) and it refers to wifi sharing via USB and not wifi.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276723
the reason I'm looking for such a way is that I have a iPass certificate on my mobile, which enables me to connect freely to iPass wifi hotspots around the world (popular at airports for example) and I want to use this connection with my laptop or my friends mobile devices.
can anyone shed some light on this subject?

How do i get my phone to show on its own hotspot network?

I just bought a chromecast and I'm trying to figure out if I can get my GNexus to host the hotspot and be the chromecast remote.
In more detail:
I do not have internet from a cable/satellite company. The only internet connection I have is through my cellphone hotspot.
Chromecast will be connected to the internet through my cellphone hotspot (SSID: AndroidAP).
When my cellphone has the hotspot running it does not show up on its own network (AndroidAP).
I need the phone to show up on the network (AndroidAP) so that I can see the chromcast and use the phone as a remote.
Is this even possible?
Really? No one?
Is it possible?
I'd be very curious to know if this is possible or not. I found this thread because I'm wanting to do the very same thing. I still have unlimited data through vzw so this would be terrific if there was a way. The only thing is that the wifi turns off when the hotspot is turned on (at least on mine) so there would have to be a way to get it to connect to its own hotspot without making mobile data shut off.
Same thing needed Badly here @@
I also want to connect my moto e to it's own hotspot for remote control my tablet using my phone as mouse(specifically) and keyboard/joystick.
(I know keyboard and joystick can be possible without doing that but MOUSE can't)
Hellllllllpppppppp ......
1.5 years later and there's still no way to do this. Not only that this is the only page on the internet about it.
The de thread here
I want to use my phone WiFi network to connect my PC to it and then use the phone to remotly control keyboard and mouse on my PC over WiFi, but I just can not connect my phone to it's own WiFi network. :/
One thing I could do is using a WiFi extender to connect both devices to, but then I couln't get the devices connected to internet since they're connected to a "no-internet" WiFi extender network.
Still nothing? I need it to use my security camera which needs internet connection. I also need to be able to view it on my phone using the camera app but the devices have to be on the same network. Sux that i can't do this.

[Q] Wifi / Internet Sharing

I know it seems pointless, but there is a reason for this... Is it possible to share my 4G/LTE internet with a router so that other devices can connect to the internet through my phone while my phone still possess the ability to use the internet?
Most would recommend setting up the hotspot, but the apps that I am trying to use are checking to see if the device is connected to a network and hotspot "disables" wifi so it looks like my phone isn't actually on a network.
What I would like is for the phone to connect to a router and share it's internet while it retains internet access.
Nexus 5 [INTERNET from 4G/LTE] ---> Nano USB Router [HooToo Tripmate Router] ---> Nexus 7 [As car stereo head unit]
Thanks and any help is greatly appreciated.
Will

Mobile Hotspot without Root (PI2)(New Unlimited Plan) Workaround

I had root, loved the ability to have the hotspot with xposed, but hated the lag and battery life.
Tried to flash a ROM and got stuck in a bootloop.
Without access to a computer I had to visit a Bestbuy Samsung Experience kiosk to restore my S7.
Unable to root my device again I was immediately upset to find out I couldn't get hotspot again.
I relied on my hotspot because I have the newer unlimited plan with AT&T and DirecTv bundle.
I use my phone as my apartments entire wifi access relying it for my Chromecast, tablets and my game systems.
I felt stuck without it and almost called an internet provider but then I remembered the phone has wifi sharing.
So the Chromecast has an open Wifi signal if it's not connected to wifi itself.
I connect to it with my phone then immediately go to Mobile Hotspot turn it on and then go to the more options and select wifi sharing off.
Which then disconnects from wifi and the only uses the hotspot there for still having the ability to have hotspot I am able to connect the Chromecast to my hotspot and the other devices as well.
The only reason I really wanted/needed root was for this feature so it might help the next or it may have been brought up already.
I am also on the Sept PI2 update.
So as long as you have an open Wifi
(with or without internet access)
you can turn on Mobile Hotspot with wifi sharing on first
then after the Hotspot is activated
you can turn wifi sharing off to keep the Hotspot on.
Again sorry if this has been posted somewhere.
This no longer work with nougat update...
Flash the G930U firmware and hotspot works "right out of the box" with no fixes or tweaks. I can confirm it works as I flashed my G930A to the "U".
RyTheShark said:
I had root, loved the ability to have the hotspot with xposed, but hated the lag and battery life.
Tried to flash a ROM and got stuck in a bootloop.
Without access to a computer I had to visit a Bestbuy Samsung Experience kiosk to restore my S7.
Unable to root my device again I was immediately upset to find out I couldn't get hotspot again.
I relied on my hotspot because I have the newer unlimited plan with AT&T and DirecTv bundle.
I use my phone as my apartments entire wifi access relying it for my Chromecast, tablets and my game systems.
I felt stuck without it and almost called an internet provider but then I remembered the phone has wifi sharing.
So the Chromecast has an open Wifi signal if it's not connected to wifi itself.
I connect to it with my phone then immediately go to Mobile Hotspot turn it on and then go to the more options and select wifi sharing off.
Which then disconnects from wifi and the only uses the hotspot there for still having the ability to have hotspot I am able to connect the Chromecast to my hotspot and the other devices as well.
The only reason I really wanted/needed root was for this feature so it might help the next or it may have been brought up already.
I am also on the Sept PI2 update.
So as long as you have an open Wifi
(with or without internet access)
you can turn on Mobile Hotspot with wifi sharing on first
then after the Hotspot is activated
you can turn wifi sharing off to keep the Hotspot on.
Again sorry if this has been posted somewhere.
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No root Secure tether from the playstore

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