Dear all,
Has anybody so far successfully installed an Android Rom on the Meizu MX3?
Any hint would be mostly appreciated!
I could not find anything via Google or forum search...
Cheers
Julian
I realize this is reviving an old-ish thread, but I too am interested in any info regarding the above.
Due to high pricing, the MX3 is a possible option for me soon.
Hey iSilence,
I have not made any progress so far on the issue. However, I managed to install the Google Playstore and thereby got most of the relevant software related functions I need on the MEIZU.
Would still prefer a nice Android on that machine.
Cheers
Sypher said:
Hey iSilence,
I have not made any progress so far on the issue. However, I managed to install the Google Playstore and thereby got most of the relevant software related functions I need on the MEIZU.
Would still prefer a nice Android on that machine.
Cheers
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From what I've found out till now, the issue with Meizu is that the bootloader is locked.
The furthest people have gotten was to install MIUI on the MX2, and there are a few fixes/mods for the MX3.
MIUI may be possible on the MX3, the device is still pretty fresh so there's hope.
I don't know about stock Android though. One can hope.
I recently got a Kindle HDX and I despise the way the store is laid out.
I want to install Google play but of course amazon took away that freedom so everything is purchased through their market... I've never owned an android before and don't know any technical guides, but all the easier ways/ways I understand are for earlier versions, and with forced updates Im at the newest version which apparently cant be rooted. If someone could explain how to:
1) Downgrade / regrade my kindle
2) Root the kindle
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3) Get the google play store in terms I could understand, it would help alot.
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I recently got a Kindle HDX and I despise the way the store is laid out.
I want to install Google play but of course amazon took away that freedom so everything is purchased through their market... I've never owned an android before and don't know any technical guides, but all the easier ways/ways I understand are for earlier versions, and with forced updates Im at the newest version which apparently cant be rooted. If someone could explain how to:
1) Downgrade / regrade my kindle
2) Root the kindle
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3) Get the google play store in terms I could understand, it would help alot.
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You really need some Android experience to pull off the required steps without bricking your device. My recommendation to wait for a solution to come to the level of firmware your device is running. If FireOS (Amazon Store) is too unpalatable suggest returning your device and pick-up a Nexus 7 instead.
I also recommend avoiding 'hacks' that allow installing Google Play/Services on FireOS. Problems abound. You can obtain the current version of many free android applications from other marketplaces such as 1Mobile. It is an imperfect solution but better than the alternatives IMO - especially for inexperienced users.
I'm thinking about getting a HDX 7 with the current firmware. Just wanted to ask whether or not it is currently possibly (or work in progress) to install a custom ROM ? If not, I won't buy it.
OdlG26 said:
I'm thinking about getting a HDX 7 with the current firmware. Just wanted to ask whether or not it is currently possibly (or work in progress) to install a custom ROM ? If not, I won't buy it.
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Yes, but the process is tedious and carries some risk. If successful you have the option of Nexus v4 or cm11. In your shoes I would look at something else.
Is there a way? I just want to get Google Play Store working so I can use the full version of comicrack, which I have bought.
nexthoudini said:
Is there a way? I just want to get Google Play Store working so I can use the full version of comicrack, which I have bought.
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You can't - at least on FireOS v4. Your device should auto-update to FireOS v5 over the next few weeks (according to Amazon). Possible a root option will become available on that version - or someone will device a way to get the Play Store working w/o root. Not going to happen with v4; you'll have to wait.
Root access can only be obtained on 4.5.2 or below (this is likely not the case here).
However, you should still be able to install Google apps without it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
nexthoudini said:
Is there a way? I just want to get Google Play Store working so I can use the full version of comicrack, which I have bought.
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You can't - at least on FireOS v4. Your device should auto-update to FireOS v5 over the next few weeks (according to Amazon). Possible a root option will become available on that version - or someone will device a way to get the Play Store working w/o root. Not going to happen with v4; you'll have to wait.
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Root access can only be obtained on 4.5.2 or below (this is likely not the case here).
However, you should still be able to install Google apps without it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
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Be prepared for a battle as Amazon and Google frameworks don't play nice together on FireOS v4 (KitKat based). That said - it is possible as the link suggests. Some apps run great while others, including the Play Store and license entitlements, can be temperamental. If you do get it working/stable be sure to block automatic Google Services updates so your hard work doesn't get undone as new versions roll in.
You might want to wait until after you device is upgraded to FireOS v5 (Lollipop based) as experience on other devices suggests Google Play services is more compatible with that version. Other options include sideloading favoriate apps and/or installing an alternate app marketplace such as 1Mobile.
KingRoot
I was able to root Saturn (HDX 8.9 2014 running 4.5.2) using KingRoot 4.0+.
Go here for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/to-root-4th-gen-amazon-device-t3104853
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I was able to root Saturn (HDX 8.9 2014 running 4.5.2) using KingRoot 4.0+.
Go here for instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/to-root-4th-gen-amazon-device-t3104853
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It was recently learned 4.5.5.1 can also be rooted using the same method. A big win for 4th gen owners as 4.5.3-4.5.5 can not be rooted and there is no rollback option. 4th gen devices will also receive FireOS v5 which has been rooted on other Amazon tabs.
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It was recently learned 4.5.5.1 can also be rooted using the same method. A big win for 4th gen owners as 4.5.3-4.5.5 can not be rooted and there is no rollback option. 4th gen devices will also receive FireOS v5 which has been rooted on other Amazon tabs.
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I saw the other thread... Any one you know working to make a working true-recovery and/or CM build w/ pseudo-recovery for the 4th Gen?
How does one go about exploring creating a CM build for a device? Instructions? /just curious, not that I'd actually try it...
Well first I believe the bootloader would need to be unlocked or a SafeStrap workaround found. Neither of these events has happened to my knowledge, so custom ROMs remain out of reach on the 4th gen.
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Well first I believe the bootloader would need to be unlocked or a SafeStrap workaround found. Neither of these events has happened to my knowledge, so custom ROMs remain out of reach on the 4th gen.
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Edit: I felt uncomfortable with this post immediately after submitting. Looking back it appears loading Safestrap v4 on a 4th gen device is a bad idea. Leaving the original text for reference as email notifications probably went out.
@rockon999 is correct for known working solutions. However, a recent development has lead to a root solution for 4th gen devices running FireOS 4.5.5.1. A few daring users then installed Safestrap v4 (risky!) and a custom rom (either CM11 or Nexus v4) and reported all is working well.
Please understand that if you go this route neither Safestrap v4 or any of the custom roms have been validated against a 4.5.5.1 by the developer. You might see success - or brick your device.
My guidance (FWIW): Wait a few more weeks to see if further testing confirms Safestrap v4 is safe to use with FireOS 4.5.5.1. Now, someone is bound to chime in and state that it worked for them. Great!! But don't confuse a single data point with the developer's nod-of-approval.
hi , can you help please to root kindle fire hdv 7" 3rd generation , i tried many method , too old and unworking
thanks
recteurrr said:
hi , can you help please to root kindle fire hdv 7" 3rd generation , i tried many method , too old and unworking
thanks
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KingRoot is the best option assuming device is running FireOS v4 (post back if on v3; there's an easier method). Multiple attempts may be required along with a factory reset. KingRoot is unsophisticated beast that often reports failure when a root exploit is known to exist. If you opt to reset do not register device with Amazon during initilization as it can reduce the odds of a successful root.
If you aiming to install the Play Store be aware it will not work (well) as Google Play Services/Frwmework and FireOS v4 do not cooperate. You will need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM first. Details here.
Be prepared for some long reads/nights and frustrating misfires. This is an aging device with limited support. Ask targeted questions as needed (might not get an immediate response). Don't expect hand holding or a scripted tutorial. If new to rooting and/or tethered operations you should probably consider another device.
What is the best custom rom for the Kindle Fire HDX 7 in your opinion? I am going to root mine which I know how to do already and I am just wondering what is the smoothest running for the HDX 7.
Davey126 said:
KingRoot is the best option assuming device is running FireOS v4 (post back if on v3; there's an easier method). Multiple attempts may be required along with a factory reset. KingRoot is unsophisticated beast that often reports failure when a root exploit is known to exist. If you opt to reset do not register device with Amazon during initilization as it can reduce the odds of a successful root.
If you aiming to install the Play Store be aware it will not work (well) as Google Play Services/Frwmework and FireOS v4 do not cooperate. You will need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM first. Details here.
Be prepared for some long reads/nights and frustrating misfires. This is an aging device with limited support. Ask targeted questions as needed (might not get an immediate response). Don't expect hand holding or a scripted tutorial. If new to rooting and/or tethered operations you should probably consider another device.
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Heatherb90 said:
What is the best custom rom for the Kindle Fire HDX 7 in your opinion? I am going to root mine which I know how to do already and I am just wondering what is the smoothest running for the HDX 7.
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I believe your device is currently running a KitKat build of Fire Nexus. Doesn't get much smoother than that. However, if you desire a more contemporary UI any of the Nougat builds should work fine. I'm partial to LineageOS but don't interpret that as a ding against the others. Note: you will need to unlock the bootloader to use any of the Nougat based ROMs; root is not sufficient. Also note Fire Nexus is already rooted.
I am referring to my other Kindle Fire HDX 7 that has never been rooted. I have two they are my kids' kindles. The one that you helped me fix is running Thor. The other that I am considering rooting is running the latest update to the Kindle Fire OS for the HDX 7 which is 4.5.5.1. My son wants Google play on it but I was able to add a bunch of his favorite apps from Google Play onto it using Dropbox and transfering the APKs from his phone to his kindle with Astro and all the apps we transferred worked except Mario Run which requires Google Play Services. If I can keep him happy with it the way it is I am not going to root it but if I decide to I was just curious which was the most preferred.
I appreciate all your help!! You help all us noobs on this site for nothing and use your free time to answer our questions even when some of them are especially annoying or redundant and I am sure not just me but all of us on the forum really appreciates what you do!! YOU ROCK!! :good:
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I believe your device is currently running a KitKat build of Fire Nexus. Doesn't get much smoother than that. However, if you desire a more contemporary UI any of the Nougat builds should work fine. I'm partial to LineageOS but don't interpret that as a ding against the others. Note: you will need to unlock the bootloader to use any of the Nougat based ROMs; root is not sufficient. Also note Fire Nexus is already rooted.
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Heatherb90 said:
I appreciate all your help!! You help all us noobs on this site for nothing and use your free time to answer our questions even when some of them are especially annoying or redundant and I am sure not just me but all of us on the forum really appreciates what you do!! YOU ROCK!! :good:
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Thanks for the kind works. I am a big fan of "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Queue collective gasp from die-hard tinkerers. If you son can get by with his device the way it is leave it alone. You'll both be happier for it.
Heatherb90 said:
What is the best custom rom for the Kindle Fire HDX 7 in your opinion? I am going to root mine which I know how to do already and I am just wondering what is the smoothest running for the HDX 7.
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how do you do to root your kindle
recteurrr said:
how do you do to root your kindle
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-4-5-5-2-easy-to-root-unlock-t3571240
I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet? Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
madhits45 said:
I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
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First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
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Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet?
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About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
madhits45 said:
Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
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Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
moriel5 said:
First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
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On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
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On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
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In terms of display driver support, while ignoring the rest of the hardware, it depends on how the ROM was compiled, and even if you manage to get a picture, unless the screen gets properly detected, you'll only get a resolution of 800x600.
Plus, the touch sensor on the screen requires a completely different driver, to which, as far as I know, there is no standard.
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Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
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The Android bootloader is based upon Coreboot, however it is specifically built to only boot system's that adhere to Google's boot procedure standards, so while it is theoretically possible to boot any Linux distro with it, you'll need to find one that was specially compiled for it.
The BIOS and EFI utilize completely a different standard, which means that to get a BIOS/EFI complient system to boot, you'll need to completely replace the bootloader, regardless of root or custom kernels.
And unless someone had already compiled one for your device, you're looking at a feat that is way above most people (even experienced enthusiasts), since this is goes much deeper than the OS.
While in my opinion, the time spent researching this is definitely worth it, unless you find a custom-built BIOS or EFI, or you learn how to build kernels and ROMs (the latter is easier), your tablet is pretty much stuck at where it is for the time being.
That said, I prefer to look at this kind of situation optimistically, without deluding anyone.
The current situation may be rather bleak, and the chances of getting out of it may be slim at the moment, however they exist, and they are slim at the current moment, nothing given about the future.
While we shouldn't get high hopes, we must not extinguish them either.
Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
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Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
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I too am sure of it, however I try to be wary at the same time.
I'd like to point you in the direction of Coreboot and Libreboot for information on some of the possibilities.
I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
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I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
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They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
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They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
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https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
madhits45 said:
https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
madhits45 said:
Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
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I would first make sure that hardwarewise, they are indeed the same, even though this does look pretty good.
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Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
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Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
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Can you please send me a flash.xml for the samsung tablet?
I'm by no means an expert, however I may be able to glean some information from it that may help towards building one for your ASUS tablet.
Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
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Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
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Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
moriel5 said:
Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
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I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
madhits45 said:
I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
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That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
moriel5 said:
That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
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How did the flash with multi rom go?
madhits45 said:
How did the flash with multi rom go?
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Actually, since I have managed to find bootloader unlocks for my tablets, in the end I had never gotten to test it out.