[Q] Does GPS - Location cost anything? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've had this question for some days now...
If I have wifi off and mobile data off if I use GPS will it "eat" money??
I can't find an exact answer to this answer

Your question is not clear
GPS : it's always free. With that you can acess a position by using satellites
To be used with a car for example, you must have a software like TOMTOM, MAPS, NAVIGATOR, etc ...
With such sofware you will see all roads aroud you BUT the sofware must use the map of the country where you are. 2 possibilities :
- the map is in your phone. In this case, you don't need to have a DATA access has the map will be read locally in your phone
(It's the case with TOMTOM for example)
- the map cannot be recorded in your phone and must be downloaded in real time. Its the case (partially) with Google Maps
In this case you must have a DATA access and this will not be free depending of your phone operator
It exist several GPS application so try to find one which use OpenStreet maps as it's completly free
Hope that will help you

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is there any GPS software for the X10 ?? (using internal GPS only)

is there any GPS software for the X10 ?? (using internal GPS only)
i sow in GSMARENA that the X10 have:
•No free GPS navigation solution
whats that mean ??
That means that the X10 doesn't come with a free navigation solution. But Google Maps works like a charm if you know how to use it. If you want to pay for a navigation program there's always CoPilot!
how come if he does have an internal GPS ?
will it be posible when we have a root accese? or never free GPS in this phone ??
I'm pretty sure, if you search the market you will find some free alternatives.
Not as good as the paid alternatives but it should be something free there.
amir84 said:
how come if he does have an internal GPS ?
will it be posible when we have a root accese? or never free GPS in this phone ??
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I'm not aware of any external GPS-solutions for any mobile phone since the SE P1. And why? The internal GPS works just fine! But if you don't have a flatrate data plan for your phone, sure, Google Maps isn't useful. But honestly, who doesn't have that for this kind of phone?
Check out the nav n go my way 2009 post in x10 apps and themes. Posted a link to download motonav. Works perfect for mine!
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CoPilot is very good and it's just a few bucks ..
the problem with a data plan here in europe is, that it is very expensive as soon as you are in a neighbor-country.
boo6 said:
CoPilot os very good an it's just a few bucks ..
the problem with a data plan here in europe is, that it is very expensive as soon as you are in a neighbor-country.
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CoPilot won't use any data. Its GPS not GPRS, no data is involved
Sorry, that's what I wanted to say ..
Sometimes when you're in a foreign country, no data plan can help you - so you'll need offline navigation. And copilot is an inexpensive solution for this.
bring the topic alive...
i'm from brazil and we have problems with data plan.. and i need gps... for sure that have navigation without use the data ? no gprs 2g/3g, at all ?
my diamond are dying i will probably buy the x10, great screen it have
thx.. and sorry the bad english
I use "Locus" and "GPS status", Locus provides offline maps and can record routes and stuff, but haven't checked if if it can suggest routes, GPS status, shows compas, altitude, velocity and stuff. Also I heard that google maps now has offline maps and it shows your current location
For what I understand he's asking for a navigation software that doesn't requires data access, one that can be used offline, not a free software.
I use Ndrive, works like a charm, but the map from Chile has some flaws, some little cities have only the main street, but nothing too bad when in big cities.
Also iGo is a great alternative, but a little slower than Ndrive.
Both have guided navigation without depending on data.
Navigon Select works great.it uses the phones gps without having to be connected to the internet since it stores the maps on your sd card.
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I read that google maps will have offline features in the near future.

location based apps

Location Based Apps
Now that i have a working BT (courtersy of CM7) and a BT GPS ($35 at amazon), i started looking for location based apps - here's a short summary of what i've used
google maps/navigation - yes works great including turn by turn but you do need a wifi connection to get tfe maps updated (my mifi works great in this regard). As a work around if i pre plan my route while i am within wifi, i can follow that route without wifi
copilot -http://www.alk.com/copilot/ is a $5 navigation program, you get to download hte maps lcoally (the North America maps was a 1.5GB download). in my short testing this works really well - the maps on a 7 inch screen are just great and easy to see. The street names for the next maneuver are in big bold letters so you can miss it. One nit though is it does not call out the street names
Beerby - Beerby - Android app on AppBrain
yes it shows you locations of where you can buy beer- around you
Gowalla -http://www.appbrain.com/app/gowalla/com.gowalla a social travel guide is how its described - basically lets you mark and share locations with frineds
Zagat NRU - Zagat nru | Droid Apps - is a restaurant locator using the metaphor of a compass/radar - with locations of restaurants marked on the compass
not on this list but i am gonig to try to test this weekend is SCVNGR - a scavenger hunt app
well if you have a cool location based app, please share

GPS navigation: Awesome but major design flaw!

I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
0reo said:
I absolutely love, love, love the Google satellite view in the Navigational GPS app. The whole app really is awesome. I'll probably never use my Tomtom again.
BUT! Unlike my Tomtom which can calculate a set of directions locally on the device the S4 appears to have Google do the calculation on their servers and transmit the info via Internet connection. That's a real problem when you're in an area that has poor service. Navigation becomes totally nonfunctional.
The GPS navigation will work through an area of no service if you start in an area with service so the app can download a set of directions. The problems come if you need to start your journey in an area with no service, or do like I did and exit the navigation app to do other things like make a phone call from a backwoods gas station. When I tried to restart the navigation app it kept waiting to download the directions set from google which wasn't going to happen out there. Lucky for me I remembered enough to get me back to an area with 3G where the service restored functionality to the navigation app. Lesson learned.
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A preplanned area where you will be navigating can be cached.
It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
0reo said:
It caches the map and directions so you can navigate through an area of no service but it loses the cached data when you exit the app. There is no cached data when starting a trip from an area of no service.
If I'm missing something please do tell. I'd love to know.
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Google Maps > Menu Key > Make available offline
Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
Although you do offer a good way to at least have a map on hand.
This is why I also have CoPilot navigation. Completely offline!
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This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
MysticCobra said:
This behavior is not unique to the Galaxy S4, nor is it new. Google Navigation has always been (and almost certainly will remain) a client-server type app that does the "heavy lifting" back at Google HQ. That's not a design flaw, it's a design choice--this approach perfectly serves the needs of some huge fraction of users some huge percentage of the time, without unduly consuming the resources of the phone.
In today's world, if you're in a car in the US, you're almost always within range of a cell tower with data service. Of course, if you're not within range of a cell tower, you're probably far from civilization and that's when it'd be most helpful to have some navigational assistance...
So there's still a place for the self-contained navigators like a TomTom or similar. That market niche is simply much smaller than it was about 5 years ago before Google Maps / Navigation was ubiquitous.
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I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
0reo said:
I understand its not unique or new but I certainly hope the route calculation becomes a client side option soon. It made sense to do it server side a couple phone generations ago when device processing power was limited but not so anymore. My S4 will run circles around any tomtom or garmin both in processing power as well as gps accuracy not to mention never having to do manual gps fix updates and map updates. The standalone navigational gps is going to go the way of the point and shoot camera. Its just a matter of time.
What you're calling a design choice may have been choice two years ago. Today it is a horrible flaw. There are vast areas of well traveled road that get no service around here (eg. anywhere in the mountains.) Google needs to pull their head out and recognize (or someone else will do it [be]for[e] them.) Sooner the better for them and us.
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Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
trebb said:
Like someone said before, you can download the maps offline for whatever area you need that won't have service.
Google isn't stupid. This is why they introduced this feature. It's not that the phone doesn't have the processing power; having the entire country stored on your phone would take up tons of storage.
There are other GPS applications (in the Play Store) that do this I'm pretty sure, and that is also why standalone GPS units exist. Google doesn't have to worry about losing anything to anyone. For a huge majority of users, Google Maps works perfectly fine.
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On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
0reo said:
On my tomtom the map of the entire US (just roads, not sat images) is about one GB. Not prohibitive by any stretch.
And unless I'm still missing something you can't save maps in Navigation app. Only in Google Maps app which is different and not nearly as good for use while driving.
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I'm almost 100% positive that the Navigation app and Google Maps are the same application. Just like the other app whose name I can't recall that helps you find restaurants, etc. It's all run through Google Maps. The initial interface may be different, but they're the same thing.
I always just search my destination in Maps, then hit navigate. That takes you to the same exact thing the Navigation shortcut will eventually bring you to. I have never really used the offline feature nor do I use the Navigation shortcut, so I can't really instruct you on how to do it through either method. I remember reading the reviews when Google introduced the feature, though, so it definitely works.
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Next time, just leave Navigation running in the background while you make your call. When you hang up, pull down the status bar and tap the Navigation icon & continue on your way.
0reo said:
Google Maps app =/= Navigation app.
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Except they are. Exact same apk file. Uninstall maps... Navigation disappears.
The navigation icon is basically a maps shortcut.
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Whatever is happening in the back end, I just don't see the functionality in the front end. I'll play with it more today and see if I'm missing a way.
Surprised no one mentioned the Sygic app in this thread yet -- I tried it a while back and it was pretty decent for a standalone navigation app that you can download maps to your SD card and have the app use those. It is relatively expensive since I last looked though.
I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
stuartv said:
I used to have a Garmin Navigation app on my Blackberry Storm. It looked and worked just like my actual Garmin GPS. All map and routing data was on the phone (<2GB) and it worked even with no cell or data signal at all.
I don't know why they don't offer the same thing as an Android app. The full City Navigator North America database is less than 2GB.
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I think they decided to not kill their company. They are trying to stay out of the race to zero. Google could kill off every other navigation company in one swoop if they wanted to by offering a free full blown offline maps for android and ios...I think they just don't want the regulatory scrutiny. And they wouldn't be able to collect data on your habits as easily, lol. NSA might get pissed.
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Google Maps > Menu Key > Make available offline
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Does anyone know of a way to make the caching of maps cache a much bigger area than it currently does?
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i understand the op's concern. the main issue being when there is no connection to the internet you cannot get directions. even if you cache a map offline the navigation still won't provide you directions, you can only browse the map area and see where you currently are on that cached map. the reason it works this way is because when you choose directions or navigation in maps google calculates the directions from your location to the point selected. it's not something done within the application, but dynamically via google's servers.
this is almost never an issue for me, except in the rare occasion when i've been traveling and in a tunnel or some remote location where internet connection isn't available. in those cases your best bet is to calculate your directions ahead of time and email them to yourself. you can also cache a map of that area so you can at least browse it offline.
if google ever offers offline navigation/directions then every other mapping service can kiss their company goodbye.
Google built the best. I'd pay for the ability to calculate a route offline.

[Q] List of Offline Gps with maps stored on External Memory Card (microSDHC)

I) PLEASE HELP,
II) THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE OF READING THE POST
This is the first time in my life that I own an Touch Screen Smartphone, which has Android in it.
Please give me some advices (how to install, how to set things up, etc) and suggestions regarding GPS offline software.
Last year, I got LOST IN THE WOODS in a MOUNTANS but I GOT LUCK as I had carrier network and I was able to use google maps on my phone at that time a Sony Ericsson Elm (not a rugged phone, it breaks very easy as is fragile, is not smartphone, is not having android, symbian, bada etc, as is a "java" phone but it has an online google maps and tiny gps reciver).
This saved my life. I got luck as I did find an area with no trees as the trees are "obfuscating" the gps satelite signal, and I got luck because I had an Carrier signal for internet connection.
However, if the scenario repeats and I got in the woods on the mountain again, or when I am driving I need an Navigation Offline GPS software with the maps stored on the external memory card. For getting out from the wood OsmAnd is okay, but is horrible for navigation.
The phone I have is Sony Xperia L, which has a screen of 480 x 854 pixels, 4.3 inches
I wish to install a GPS software which has the following characteristics:
- Maps Stored for Offline use On the microSD card (microSDHC), not in the phone or the internal sdcard memory
- Navigation turn by turn with voice guidance.
- Calculation of the route with no internet connection required
- 3D (bird's-eye view) mapping navigation mode
Till now I have found the following Offline Gps Applications but far now none of them dose not fit, or I don't know how to install and configure them:
1) iGO Primo for Android
2) Sygic
3) CoPilot
4) OsmAnd && OsmAnd+
5) TomTom
6) Google Maps
7) Here Maps (by nokia)
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8) Navitel
>>> Did I forget something, is there another Offline Gps Software <<<
1) iGO problems on Sony Xperia L, screen resolution. I badly wish this app but it dose't work. On the official iGO site they say something like this "iGO Primo for android is ONLY for the corporate business users, - not for home users like you god dammit "
-If I install iGO Primo for Android, when I rotate the phone from "Portratit" to "Landscape", the app remain in "portratit" and the buttons are not working, If I swich the phone back into "portratit" position the app runs fine again.
-If I put the phone in "landscape" and then start the aplication the iGo Primo for android gives the following error:
" User interface resolution [729x442] is not supported or compatibile skin can not be found. Exiting aplication. "
It dose not matter that I install the application from torrents (multiresolution .apk or optimized for a specific resolution, in my case 854x480 - Xperia L) or the version for israel from the official google play store - " iGo Primo Israel free "
2) Sygic
- I don't know / could not find the settings on how to move the maps on the microSDHC card that I have, or to set up sygic to read the maps from the External Removable Memory
- The version I had, It has poor maps for some of the eastern europe country
3) CoPilot
- It seems that this app is storing the maps inside the phone memory (sdcard0) not in the external memory sdhc microsd card (sdcard1), with no seting to move the maps (like Syginc)
4) OsmAnd
- Is not having "bird view", BUT is able to STORE and "read" the maps from the external memory card
- UNABLE to calculate longer routes (more than 150kms)
- Is it very AWARD and HARD to input a "navigate to this adress", compared to others app
5) TomTom
- I was unable to find a tomtom app in google play store, on torrens, I did find only maps, and not the aplication byitself.
6) GoogleMaps
- It require INTERNET CONNECTION for route calculating
- It has some restriction, as you can save ONLY SOME parts of the map for offline use like a city / county but not all Europe+Uk & Usa
- It is NOT storing the maps on the microSD / external memory card
- I for a non-internet/not-a computer user, the menu of saving a little piece of the map is very well and good hidden (my old father for example)
7) Here maps from Nokia.
- It require am INTERNET connection
- Altrough it has a "saving" option like Google Maps, it dose not storing the map on the EXTERNAL MEMORY
8) Navitel
- As I saw, the maps it is having native (Russia, Moldova, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria) are very detailed but it has no USA / CANADA maps, how it is possible to convert the open street maps for navitel?
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Try Locus. You can download maps for any area you select / any zoom level in the map and can store the offline maps in the external card. The maps can also be downloaded using MOBAC (Mobile Atlas Creator) in the PC in sqlite format and copied to the sd card.
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Looking for a navigation app with no "Internet access" permission. Maps will probably

Looking for a navigation app with no "Internet access" permission. Maps will probably
be loaded manually...
Hi,
I've spent some time at the market with no results.
I'm looking for an old fashioned solution where you simply load in a map into your device (manually), the GPS reciever takes the required signals from the sky and shows your coordinates on the map.
That's it.
No internet connection, no fancy 'in store purchases', simply a man and his interactive map- just like my grandpappy used to do back in 1845.
If any one knows of such a miracle (preferably from a trustworthy source) I would be most obliged.
God, are there so little people who see the problem in pairing your constant whereabouts and the ability to send said whereabouts to some remote server over the internet?
You'd think that someone would develop a small little tool which only present you your numeric coordinates and if you want, will show them on a standardized map the user downloads (maybe from google maps)...
I'm not a developer but that seems to be quite simple. Corerct me if I'm wrong.
THX!
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OSM is a free full working navigation/map app.
Thank you, I just checked all google apps with OSM in their name but htey all required "Internet access".
For downloading the maps
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There is Locus Map Free (and Pro) which does require Internet access, but it also supports offline maps (where you can download the maps in a PC and copy it to the phone). Once you have the offline maps for the locations / city / country (can be a big file) it doesn't need internet access.
gladson1976 said:
There is Locus Map Free (and Pro) which does require Internet access, but it also supports offline maps (where you can download the maps in a PC and copy it to the phone). Once you have the offline maps for the locations / city / country (can be a big file) it doesn't need internet access.
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Like said above, try downloading a navigation app with offline maps features.
Does the app has internet permission? - Yes
Does it use internet when offline mode is on? - No
If you are still worried that the app uses internet you could always just download the offline map, put the app in offline mode and turn off internet acces on your device.
If you have a rooted phone you could also remove the permission from the app, this way you can leave your internet on without the app using it.
Hope i helped, i would try the app mentioned in the post above!
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Oh, yeah it seems to be a good source but my problem at the moment is finding an app.
gladson1976 said:
There is Locus Map Free (and Pro) which does require Internet access, but it also supports offline maps (where you can download the maps in a PC and copy it to the phone). Once you have the offline maps for the locations / city / country (can be a big file) it doesn't need internet access.
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Jaspervaneyck said:
Like said above, try downloading a navigation app with offline maps features.
Does the app has internet permission? - Yes
Does it use internet when offline mode is on? - No
If you are still worried that the app uses internet you could always just download the offline map, put the app in offline mode and turn off internet acces on your device.
If you have a rooted phone you could also remove the permission from the app, this way you can leave your internet on without the app using it.
Hope i helped, i would try the app mentioned in the post above!
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Thank you guys a lot for the suggestion. This Locus map seems nice but yeah, how can I be sure they're (or any thingie with offline maps) not tracking my location?
Whether it's Real Time (I use GPS while simultaneously doing other things on the internet), Delayed (records everything while offline and then sends the info when WIFI is back (I have a vague recollection that perhaps Google did this)), or Sneaky Combo (the app records everything for some period of time, but only sends info if remotely activated, so to thwart traffic inspection)...
Rooted phone- I wish that was an option, unfortunately a) I myself haven't been convinced yet that root managing apps are safer then the inherent android protection (first search result- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525552), b) the intended owner is not a sophisticated consumer...so... children,matches and a can of gasoline don't go well together.
Damn' I'm a little frustrated...

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