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Hello...
I need some clarification before i go ahead and root this phone by unlocking the bootloader.
So if i unlock the bootloader on SE's developer site, they state i loose my DRM management.. So that means what exactly?
TrackID wont work?
Some FaceBook "like" on musik?
In general, if i have musik on my phone that is DRM protected, i basicly can forget about that?
What happens if i unlock the bootloader to get root.. Make the mods to the phone i want, basicly changing the colors and everything "Sony" on the phone to something else.. Then i relock the bootloader.. Does my DRM get restored?
Hope some can clarify these things for me.. Thanks...
All DRM stuff got deleted and is gone forever. If you relock, DRM will stay gone. No way to restore it sorry!
TrackID etc won't work after that sorry!
Regards
Sucks!...
Witch sucks since TrackID is actually a really good feature on the SE and combined with the app from my carrier that give me free musik.. when DRM is working since that is protected by that.. Its not really an option for me to go bust that function..
So.. Ill start looking into some things and hopefully get some other means of rooting the phone.. or even downgrade it..
Thanks for the reply Bin4ry
FastDuck said:
Witch sucks since TrackID is actually a really good feature on the SE and combined with the app from my carrier that give me free musik.. when DRM is working since that is protected by that.. Its not really an option for me to go bust that function..
So.. Ill start looking into some things and hopefully get some other means of rooting the phone.. or even downgrade it..
Thanks for the reply Bin4ry
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So if we unlock bootloader trackid and drm music will not play on the device anymore?
Correct
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r33p said:
Correct
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OKay so i think here in denmark we have wimp music stream service will that app work?
knudsen81 said:
So if we unlock bootloader trackid and drm music will not play on the device anymore?
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Is it possible to having root without unlocking bootloader?
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cgone said:
Is it possible to having root without unlocking bootloader?
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Hello No there is no other way to root
Bin4ry said:
All DRM stuff got deleted and is gone forever. If you relock, DRM will stay gone. No way to restore it sorry!
TrackID etc won't work after that sorry!
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Even if we flash it with stock firmware, its not getting back ?
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Even if we flash it with stock firmware, its not getting back ?
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No it will not come back that way
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This kinda sucks? ;(
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i can live without it. I'm def. not buying anything containing DRM and if you miss trackid -> use soundhound.
Works better then trackid in my opinion
Yep,you have too choose wisely
And i bet we gonna see apps very soon with drmlike protection.
That will force unlocked phones to freeware & warez
Hmm what about SE home? Will it be gone too?
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r33p said:
Yep,you have too choose wisely
And i bet we gonna see apps very soon with drmlike protection.
That will force unlocked phones to freeware & warez
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Doubtful. Developers need rooted devices if they're to use ADB seriously. Actually the trend goes the other way around: phone subsidies are very expensive and carriers are looking for ways to reduce them.
Izzy Stinson said:
Hmm what about SE home? Will it be gone too?
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Se home works without drm
you can use SoundHound ∞
I find it better than TrackID from sony
but why you want use DRM ?
you paid for music? really
will super one click work
Does unlocking bootloader require wipe/full format?
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It does itself.
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Hi
After unlock the bootloader Download music info gets Error , can anybody fix this ?
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Soheil_rf said:
Hi
After unlock the bootloader Download music info gets Error , can anybody fix this ?
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Info comes from TackID. TrackID uses DRM keys. Those keys were lost forever when you cracked open your bootloader. Tough luck mate.
TrackID should still work..... Mine does and I know others with unlocked Bootloaders still have a working one as well.
Have you tried wiping the apps data?
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Really? From dooms guide I thought that it shouldnt. But you're not the only one to say it, a guy on a local forum reported the same.
What doesnt work then?
I can't really comment on that because trackID is the only Sony app I actually use, I think music unlimited and the PSstore and such may need the DRM to work (well would assume anyways to prevent piracy) but trackID has no issues. If it did I wouldn't have unlocked bootloader, its one of my favorite apps
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I can't use gracenote either after unlocking bootloader... but why do they need to delete your drm keys anyway... It does not harm music producers as I know
TrackID works for for me too after unlocking bootloader
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I have the same problem with the walkman app too.
I'm running on ICS stock rom, rooted with stock ICS kernel.
Any solutions will be much appreciated.
Are there any news/solutions for this issue?
DRM keys are lost FOREVER. There wont ever be any solution mate.
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There is already a post with that same question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809017
and the same answers
well TrackID is working fine on my device with unlocked Bootloader!
heey guys.
Since 2 days i own a xperia z ultra and i rooted it with unlocked bootloader.
But now i am not abled to watch youtube vids or netflix they always keep at the loading screen on netflix, on youtube same problem doesnt load doesnt run. I bought this phone to watch vids and so on so if someone cud help me please im on 1.136 rooted.
shurensly95 said:
heey guys.
Since 2 days i own a xperia z ultra and i rooted it with unlocked bootloader.
But now i am not abled to watch youtube vids or netflix they always keep at the loading screen on netflix, on youtube same problem doesnt load doesnt run. I bought this phone to watch vids and so on so if someone cud help me please im on 1.136 rooted.
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I believe that's cos you've unlocked the bootloader and so your drm keys are gone.
I also believe there are is at least a Netflix mod on xda to deal with this.
Could be wrong
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shurensly95 said:
heey guys.
Since 2 days i own a xperia z ultra and i rooted it with unlocked bootloader.
But now i am not abled to watch youtube vids or netflix they always keep at the loading screen on netflix, on youtube same problem doesnt load doesnt run. I bought this phone to watch vids and so on so if someone cud help me please im on 1.136 rooted.
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Try clear yotube/netflix cache/data under APPS and restart.
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Try clear yotube/netflix cache/data under APPS and restart.
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I tried that and didnt work.
SpyderTracks said:
I believe that's cos you've unlocked the bootloader and so your drm keys are gone.
I also believe there are is at least a Netflix mod on xda to deal with this.
Could be wrong
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And i believe there is no way to undo all that right?
Edit: everything under 380 and less quality works fine but nothing higher than that.
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And i believe there is no way to undo all that right?
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If you took a backup before unlocking, you can restore the ta partition but that will relock the bootloader. If no backup then no.
Just been looking and it may just be X-reality that's needed... Check this thread by @hamdogg and see if that works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46760644
Edit: thread on this subject http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424394
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SpyderTracks said:
If you took a backup before unlocking, you can restore the ta partition but that will relock the bootloader. If no backup then no.
Just been looking and it may just be X-reality that's needed... Check this thread by @hamdogg and see if that works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46760644
Edit: thread on this subject http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424394
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Now that u mention that link i installed bravia engine 2 since then it stopped working...
Edit: when u install that mod ur phone doesnt play hd movies thats what was happening i fixed it by reinstalling software and rerooting again.
I just received my new Sony Z Ultra GPe and I couldn't be happier with the device performance but I was really pissed to find that Google decided to remove the FM Radio application that Sony had included on the regular Sony Xperia Z Ultra!!
I tried installing the same APK that is included on the regular Z Ultra but the installation didn't work because it's a system app and my device isn't rooted.
I tried using Spirit FM but unfortunately that failed to activate the built in FM radio and didn't work.
Is there an FM radio app that we can use on the GPe ?
vivalamoza said:
I just received my new Sony Z Ultra GPe and I couldn't be happier with the device performance but I was really pissed to find that Google decided to remove the FM Radio application that Sony had included on the regular Sony Xperia Z Ultra!!
I tried installing the same APK that is included on the regular Z Ultra but the installation didn't work because it's a system app and my device isn't rooted.
I tried using Spirit FM but unfortunately that failed to activate the built in FM radio and didn't work.
Is there an FM radio app that we can use on the GPe ?
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Could you post a link or upload the Sony FM apk so I could test with rooted GPe?
There you go:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1UBMIjumNE4TGxGYWw3eE9rcDg/edit?usp=sharing
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Please let me know how it goes
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vivalamoza said:
Please let me know how it goes
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I tried three different apks, the one you posted and one that was nodded to work without headphones don't even show in app drawer. Third one was posted in a ROM thread for different Sony phone showed up but gives toast message saying it has quit working as soon as it trys to open. I wonder if it needs the odex file?
Have you had any luck with Spirit FM ? I've read that it's supposed to work, but again that needs root?
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Have you had any luck with Spirit FM ? I've read that it's supposed to work, but again that needs root?
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It does work! I had tried it before it was rooted not realizing it was required. The version I had purchased has been renamed "old spirit FM lite" and is no longer supported. Spirit1 seems to work but I didn't get Spirit2 to start. Anyways thanks for spurring me to test Spirit further.
Edit....uninstalled spirit lite and Spirit2 works, also has Bluetooth support.
Is there a way the apk for the FM radio application from the original z ultra I posted above can be modified to work on our GPe?
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Doomlord has successfully booted a Sony ROM (681) on his GPe now, so you'll soon have the chance to test the Sony ROM if you feel like it.
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Not really, I love the GPe experience, just missing some standard sw like the FM radio, note app, handwriting keyboard.
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Not really, I love the GPe experience, just missing some standard sw like the FM radio, note app, handwriting keyboard.
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Yeah, that's the thing isn't it. I have the Xperia model, but i'm currently running the GPe ROM and i love it for its lightness, but with lightness comes minimalism, and i'm a true minimalist in real life and hate having stuff i don't use, BUT having to install a third party videoplayer if i'd like to stream something is incredible annoying. Stuff the stock Sony ROM does out-of-the-box is not possible on a clean AOSP build.
I still love it though, but once in awhile i just have to go back to the Sony ROM and get cozy. Everything there just works.
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Yeah, that's the thing isn't it. I have the Xperia model, but i'm currently running the GPe ROM and i love it for its lightness, but with lightness comes minimalism, and i'm a true minimalist in real life and hate having stuff i don't use, BUT having to install a third party videoplayer if i'd like to stream something is incredible annoying. Stuff the stock Sony ROM does out-of-the-box is not possible on a clean AOSP build.
I still love it though, but once in awhile i just have to go back to the Sony ROM and get cozy. Everything there just works.
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Sorry for off topic but this seems as good as anywhere to ask.
1. Does uninstalling Sony apps cause issues?
2. Do Sony apps work with 3rd party launchers?
adfurgerson said:
Sorry for off topic but this seems as good as anywhere to ask.
1. Does uninstalling Sony apps cause issues?
2. Do Sony apps work with 3rd party launchers?
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How dare you go off topic! Just kidding.
- No, it depends on what you're deleting. You will end up soft bricking it if you delete SystemUI or any other important app/service/libs but you're safe if you only want to remove "bloat". I made a list of apps that are safe to remove ages ago, and it's somewhere in the Themes & Apps section, so check that out. Be sure to either have a NAND backup ready in case something goes wrong, or know how to recover from a soft brick (bootloop etc)
- Yes, but some or all Sony widgets won't work.
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LordManhattan said:
Doomlord has successfully booted a Sony ROM (681) on his GPe now, so you'll soon have the chance to test the Sony ROM if you feel like it.
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We were close yesterday I think with monx's ROM, just a wrong kernel would have been all that was stopping the boot I think
Is there a way the stock Sony FM Radio app which I posted before can be modified to be installed without root (as a non-system app)?
I don't want to root my device for the moment but I want to be able to use the built in FM Radio.
BTW I was bummed with updated my GPe to 4.4.3 and found that Google still didn't include an FM radio app!
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BTW I was bummed with updated my GPe to 4.4.3 and found that Google still didn't include an FM radio app!
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Google has never had a radio app, and that will probably never happen.
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So I've finally rooted my GPe, now I want to get FM radio working.
Can you please tell me the configuration you used to get Spirit FM working, keeps force closing for me!
I tried installing the Apk from the original Xperia ZU for the FM radio but that never showed up in my app list!
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vivalamoza said:
So I've finally rooted my GPe, now I want to get FM radio working.
Can you please tell me the configuration you used to get Spirit FM working, keeps force closing for me!
I tried installing the Apk from the original Xperia ZU for the FM radio but that never showed up in my app list!
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First thing is I had it working on 4.4.2 and never tried it after updating. Now I am using a Sony Z Ultra and not the GPe anymore, sorry I can't recall what it took to get it working.
vivalamoza said:
So I've finally rooted my GPe, now I want to get FM radio working.
Can you please tell me the configuration you used to get Spirit FM working, keeps force closing for me!
I tried installing the Apk from the original Xperia ZU for the FM radio but that never showed up in my app list!
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If rooted, try the latest test release of Spirit2 here: http://d-h.st/vky
Or Spirit1: http://d-h.st/de8
Usually, it should "just work". If not, in Spirit1, send me a debug log. Tap the frequency button, enter the number 7 and tap "OK". After 20 seconds or so, press Send from your email client.
Google hates FM, so you don't find it on Nexus or GPE devices. Maybe Google One for "developing world" though, LOL.
ALL stock FM apps rely on "framework" code, usually proprietary and secret. Not a single GPE device has ever been able to run a stock FM app, only Spirit, which is low level and has mostly just kernel requirements. I'm just happy that Google's OEMs have accidentally(?) left the Qualcomm FM driver in the stock kernels.
I'm thinking about officially supporting Sony devices in Spirit2, and so I'm reading these forums to learn about different Z models. Used Z Ultras are now as low as $280 here, and new GPE as low as $350 so far,.But buying a phone is just a fraction of the long term cost learning how to root, unlock, flash ROMs without bricking, etc...
mikereidis said:
If rooted, try the latest test release of Spirit2 here: http://d-h.st/vky
Or Spirit1: http://d-h.st/de8
Usually, it should "just work". If not, in Spirit1, send me a debug log. Tap the frequency button, enter the number 7 and tap "OK". After 20 seconds or so, press Send from your email client.
Google hates FM, so you don't find it on Nexus or GPE devices. Maybe Google One for "developing world" though, LOL.
ALL stock FM apps rely on "framework" code, usually proprietary and secret. Not a single GPE device has ever been able to run a stock FM app, only Spirit, which is low level and has mostly just kernel requirements. I'm just happy that Google's OEMs have accidentally(?) left the Qualcomm FM driver in the stock kernels.
I'm thinking about officially supporting Sony devices in Spirit2, and so I'm reading these forums to learn about different Z models. Used Z Ultras are now as low as $280 here, and new GPE as low as $350 so far,.But buying a phone is just a fraction of the long term cost learning how to root, unlock, flash ROMs without bricking, etc...
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The version you posted just works, I must have been using an older version, thanks alot!
Hi
I've been using bit torrent to download albums and paste them in to my Walkman player.
I do know that using p2p softwares can be harmful. However I scan my phone using the clean master app from the play store and the results are always "no harm found"
But for a strange reason my phone suddenly won't send or receive texts or calls. I have written another post asking for people help on that.
My question is could it be because of bit torrent and clean master can't detect it.
It is a coincidence that my phone stopped working properly after a few days of using bit torrent l. ( I have around 4gb of music on my phone that I've downloaded from bit torrent)
Thank you...
Haroon
HaroonZ2 said:
Hi
I've been using bit torrent to download albums and paste them in to my Walkman player.
I do know that using p2p softwares can be harmful. However I scan my phone using the clean master app from the play store and the results are always "no harm found"
But for a strange reason my phone suddenly won't send or receive texts or calls. I have written another post asking for people help on that.
My question is could it be because of bit torrent and clean master can't detect it.
It is a coincidence that my phone stopped working properly after a few days of using bit torrent l. ( I have around 4gb of music on my phone that I've downloaded from bit torrent)
Thank you...
Haroon
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There is no such thing as viruses on android, 99% of anti~virus and security crap is usualy a placebo
Bittorrent is official bittorent so its safe
And the Z2 FW is a bit buggy, stuff can stop working so try factory resetting
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Envious_Data said:
There is no such thing as viruses on android, 99% of anti~virus and security crap is usualy a placebo
Bittorrent is official bittorent so its safe
And the Z2 FW is a bit buggy, stuff can stop working so try factory resetting
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Oh right thanks a lot. I guess I can still use bit torrent happily!
Oh well that's a terrible bug on firmware, i will reset after I try a few more methods I found on the Internet. Thank you
HaroonZ2 said:
Oh right thanks a lot. I guess I can still use bit torrent happily!
Oh well that's a terrible bug on firmware, i will reset after I try a few more methods I found on the Internet. Thank you
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Just to be clear when i say factory reset i mean via flashtool or Sony PC companion (support zone>repair device)
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Just to be clear when i say factory reset i mean via flashtool or Sony PC companion (support zone>repair device)
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Understood. I just reset my phone by using."back up and reset" in the settings menu. Nothing changed. As I have just read what you said I'm going to look into using Sony PC companion.
P.S is flashtool and Sony PC companion legit. Meaning will they mess up my phone or my computer with malware?
What's the easier and safest tool to use?
Thanks..
Haroon
Sony PC companion is official, it will download firmware through the app and install it to your phone. Flashtool isn't official but is trusted - although you do need to source and download the relevant firmware yourself to flash to the device (making it more difficult and maybe less secure than the official Sony software.)
Neither will install malware on your phone (just don't download it from a dodgy website).
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Sony PC companion is official, it will download firmware through the app and install it to your phone. Flashtool isn't official but is trusted - although you do need to source and download the relevant firmware yourself to flash to the device (making it more difficult and maybe less secure than the official Sony software.)
Neither will install malware on your phone (just don't download it from a dodgy website).
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Okay brilliant. That's helpful! I wouldn't want to take any risks on.my phone I've had it barely 10 days, paid.top price and it's already malfunctioning. Such a pain!!!
Thanks again
Haroon.
Well just a side note, quite a few of the issues with the Z2 are caused by google because 4.4.2 isnt the most stable android release ever and neither it being bugless
Alot of wifi,data and system stability issues are caused by 4.4.2 android not sonys rendition (of course sony tried patching)
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Envious_Data said:
Well just a side note, quite a few of the issues with the Z2 are caused by google because 4.4.2 isnt the most stable android release ever and neither it being bugless
Alot of wifi,data and system stability issues are caused by 4.4.2 android not sonys rendition (of course sony tried patching)
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Yeah 4.4.2 is pretty bad. Google should make a new update!
One of the worst thing of the 4.4.2 update is definitely the fact you cant move your apps to your SD card, unless you flash your phone. Ive tried apps like app2sd and it wont work on 4.4.2. Its so limited in how you can spread and balance your data. I have a 128gb SD card and have trouble copying my music and videos from the phone to the SD card all the time.
Damn GOOGLE
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Yeah 4.4.2 is pretty bad. Google should make a new update!
One of the worst thing of the 4.4.2 update is definitely the fact you cant move your apps to your SD card, unless you flash your phone. Ive tried apps like app2sd and it wont work on 4.4.2. Its so limited in how you can spread and balance your data. I have a 128gb SD card and have trouble copying my music and videos from the phone to the SD card all the time.
Damn GOOGLE
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Well 4.4.3 fixed alot of issues and 4.4.4 was a small security patch
Z2 Is still waiting for 4.4.4, Z1 ZU n them lot have 4.4.4 from sony
As for SDcard use we are kinda stuck without use unless we root
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Well 4.4.3 fixed alot of issues and 4.4.4 was a small security patch
Z2 Is still waiting for 4.4.4, Z1 ZU n them lot have 4.4.4 from sony
As for SDcard use we are kinda stuck without use unless we root
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Yea that's a shame about the SD cards.
I just factory reset my phone using Sony PC companion to figure out why my calls and texts don't work and factory reset did not help... What a bummer'
What do you mean there is 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 I never knew there were higher updates for Z2 on kitkat 4.4.2
HaroonZ2 said:
Yea that's a shame about the SD cards.
I just factory reset my phone using Sony PC companion to figure out why my calls and texts don't work and factory reset did not help... What a bummer'
What do you mean there is 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 I never knew there were higher updates for Z2 on kitkat 4.4.2
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Android is made by google, you should keep up with it, you may find useful info
However the android in xperias in sonys hands to take android and update their phones
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Android is made by google, you should keep up with it, you may find useful info
However the android in xperias in sonys hands to take android and update their phones
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Okay yea I should actually.
Thanks for all the help mate.