I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Ellcnlael said:
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Make sure your phone is unlocked as well before you attempt any custom ROMs. To unlock search for link to Adam Outler's CASUAL on this forum. In my experience 4.3 ROMS are pretty stable. If you want to keep looted and unlocked, do not ever take ota from the vendor.
Ellcnlael said:
I am waiting on a note 2 to arrive in the mail. It's rooted on stock 4.1.2. I have a few questions before I start tinkering with it when it gets here. I really would like to keep all of the spen features, so I have determined it's best to stay with a TW based ROM. If I flash a 4.3 tw ROM and don't like it or find it unstable, is it possible to flash back to a stock 4.1.2? From what I've read it is.
The only thing I don't want to do is an ota 4.4 update correct? This would unroot and lock boatloader?
Is there a certain rom anyone would suggest a noob to start with?
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Taking an ota of anything above 4.1.2 will lock the bootloader for good right now. Flashing roms through custom recovery such as twrp or cwm of 4.3 and 4.4 is fine. Also, if you need to Odin back to stock for whatever reason only use the stock image for 4.1.2.
Oh and never update the bootloader.
Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
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Awesome, it just come in the mail. It's in great shape, and I have verified that it is rooted and running 4.1.2. During my setup, it keeps wanting to download the ota from Verizon. I force stopped it and was able to catch it before it downloaded.
Is there a way to keep Verizon from pushing uupdates or it being downloaded in the background?
EDIT: ok maybe I figured this out. I followed the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112221&page=4
I installed titanium backup, backedup sdm1.0, then uninstalled it. Is this what the majority is doing to safeguard against a forced update?
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Yes. Either that or flash a custom rom when you get unlocked , most of them have it disabled
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If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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there won't be an update until at least sometime next year I wouldn't worry for a while.
The only phone get ICS directly from Google is Galaxy Nexus (and maybe Galaxy S). We have to get update from AT&T who must get update (and sit on it) from Samsung who get the ICS source from Google then make a ROM out of it.
So, official ICS for i777 is probably 6 months away. If you have custom ROMs, you won't be able to upgrade via the official process. If you rooted, you may or may not be able upgrade successfully either (it depends how much AT&T/samsung hates you).
But, I'm pretty sure official ICS ROM will be leaked months before AT&T release it. You can then download the flash to that instead of waiting for AT&T to release it. When you do that, rooted or custom ROM does not matter since it will wipe your phone clean.
The only benefit of waiting for official release is that the upgrade process won't wipe your phone clean. You get to keep all your settings and apps.
CollegeProfesor said:
If I want the official update instead of flashing something, would I have to go back to stock Rom and/or unroot?
I've deleted bloatware and have frozen a few things, what should I do to ensure I'd get the latest update?
Thanks
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to answer your question, no one can be 100% sure if you will get the OTA update even if you're still running the stock rom while rooted. It should work but it may not.
Then as everyone else said, I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Our i777 has not been guaranteed an ICS update and even if it is getting it, it wont be for a long time. Long enough not to worry about that question at this point in time.
I'm currently rooted on VRUAMDK with (what I believe to be anyway) the first method from when the phone was released. I didn't have much time to bother with it when ME7 came out so I just froze SDM in TiBu and ignored it until now.
Today I saw the info about the MI1 update and decided to give it a shot updating. I saw that it was already rooted so I figured I'd just go for it and do an OTA after unfreezing SDM. However, when I tried that the install restarted the phone into Team Win Recovery and didn't complete. I assume this was because TWR blocks the install to avoid you losing root or something like that.
What I'm wondering is if there's a way to update to MI1 through TWR or some other alternative to the Verizon OTA so I don't lose root at all? I would like to know if there's a similar method for rooted phones with ME7 (since my girlfriends phone is rooted on that.).
Thanks in advance.
Don't take the OTA. Just get an MI1 stock deodex ROM. For the love of God keep your bootloader intact. The newer ones are not exploitable.
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Don't take the OTA. Just get an MI1 stock deodex ROM. For the love of God keep your bootloader intact. The newer ones are not exploitable.
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Okay, I thought that might be the right course of action but wasn't sure that the ROMs were equivalent of an OTA or just a custom rebuild of the old version.
As for my Girlfriend whose phone came with ME7? Should she just take the OTA and then Root again?
The MI1 OTA, from what I've gathered, enables a custom software counter. So unless she's planning on staying fully stock I would avoid the update. MI1 didn't really change enough to justify anyone to update as far as I know.
By custom software counter, I mean that if you were to tinker with your phone too much, it would blow a permanent qfuse that would let Samsung know not to grant your warranty when the time comes.
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Okay, I thought that might be the right course of action but wasn't sure that the ROMs were equivalent of an OTA or just a custom rebuild of the old version.
As for my Girlfriend whose phone came with ME7? Should she just take the OTA and then Root again?
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Neither update offers anything of real value that the custom rom's aren't bringing to the table. Hell there are flashable radios even. Apps to SD for me7 might be the only useful feature. But there are custom me7 roms. Wait on the devs to update you.
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No real value over the MDK release. It just locks things down.
Get one of the ROMs based on MI1.
Move along,,,, Nothing to see....
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If I am still on MDK, can I use any rom (4.3/4.4) or only roms for 4.2.2 MDK?
Things were much simpler on my GNex
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If I am still on MDK, can I use any rom (4.3/4.4) or only roms for 4.2.2 MDK?
Things were much simpler on my GNex
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You can flash any rom you want. The only way you'll lock yourself down is if you take an official update.
Verification please
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If I am still on MDK, can I use any rom (4.3/4.4) or only roms for 4.2.2 MDK?
Things were much simpler on my GNex
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You can flash any rom you want. The only way you'll lock yourself down is if you take an official update.
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Hey folks...... :highfive: I'm currently working on my Ex Wifes phone SCH-I545. I've not updated or done anything to her phone since I rooted and installed Beanstown. Quite some time ago. Any way, Her Android version is 4.2.2/VRUAMDK. :good: TWRP for recovery, not sure the version. My question is, Can I just flash any of the latest ROMs to her phone? I just want to make sure I don't screw her phone up. @Crawshayi, I see your answer right there. I just want to double check and know that I won't lock her phone down.
I really appreciate you guys. Without you and XDA, I'd be completely lost.
Sincerely
David C
Edit: Thanks guys. Everything worked perfect. My phones are running flawless.
Showing off here. NOTE 2 left side this on my right.
Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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My recommendation would be to search the Samsung website for an MK2 Odin.tar stock firmware image for your s4. If you can't find it there then I recommend looking on XDA for a no data wipe MK2 image. Once the OTA hits for 4.4.2 touchwiz KitKat I recommend you wait for the devs to find a root exploit for it. Or if you don't mind spending a few bucks you could buy super su pro and enable root survival mode and it keeps root over an ota. But I'll see if I can link you to a non data wipe stock MK2 image.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Here are the stock MK2 images just in case. There are full data wipes and no data wipes available. Hope I was able to help!
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Okay guys so I got my S4 for Christmas as an upgrade from an S3. I love it. Its a beast and it is just amazing. Here's my problem, after a bunch of head scratching and reading, I finally found out how I was supposed to root it while running the latest jail cell of an update, MK2. The only thing I did to my phone is root it. No custom recovery or anything. Now that the android 4.4.2 update is coming soon, I really want to update to it, but obviously I can't just take the OTA when it comes out, so I need to go back to stock, no root, nothing, the thing is I have no idea how to safely do it and I have very bad dyslexia so keeping track of all the threads that tell me what to do is impossible for me. Can someone please give me a simple step by step on how to do go back to stock? And where I can get the firmware from?
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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Please understand that currently there is no way to root KitKat on bootloader locked devices.
Yes, you can restore a no-wipe MK2 ROM and return to stock, then take the 4.4 update when it's rolled out, but you may be stuck on stock for good if you do that.
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k1mu, we will be repeating this countless times when the OTA happens
Okay so I am a bit of a noob at flashing ROMs and such, but I really want to do it and get my Galaxy S4 (on verizon) as close to pure android as possible. I tried flashing three ROMs. The first was liquidsmooth got the right zip file and everything flashed it in ROM slot 3 on safestrap and went to reboot and it did not work, it came of with some trippy screen and did not load. I then tried flashing Hyperdrive but did this in the stock rom slot and that worked fine. So I tried doing the same thing with CyanogenMod flashing it in the stock rom slot and rebooting but it came up with the trippy screen just like it did when I tried flashing liquidsmooth.
I am a little bit of a noob with this stuff so some help would be great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702682
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Okay so I am a bit of a noob at flashing ROMs and such, but I really want to do it and get my Galaxy S4 (on verizon) as close to pure android as possible. I tried flashing three ROMs. The first was liquidsmooth got the right zip file and everything flashed it in ROM slot 3 on safestrap and went to reboot and it did not work, it came of with some trippy screen and did not load. I then tried flashing Hyperdrive but did this in the stock rom slot and that worked fine. So I tried doing the same thing with CyanogenMod flashing it in the stock rom slot and rebooting but it came up with the trippy screen just like it did when I tried flashing liquidsmooth.
I am a little bit of a noob with this stuff so some help would be great
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you need to research what you can do and can not do....before you turn your phone into a door stop....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630040
nincman said:
Okay so I am a bit of a noob at flashing ROMs and such, but I really want to do it and get my Galaxy S4 (on verizon) as close to pure android as possible. I tried flashing three ROMs. The first was liquidsmooth got the right zip file and everything flashed it in ROM slot 3 on safestrap and went to reboot and it did not work, it came of with some trippy screen and did not load. I then tried flashing Hyperdrive but did this in the stock rom slot and that worked fine. So I tried doing the same thing with CyanogenMod flashing it in the stock rom slot and rebooting but it came up with the trippy screen just like it did when I tried flashing liquidsmooth.
I am a little bit of a noob with this stuff so some help would be great
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Well if nothing else maybe you'll get familiar with Odin lol
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Thanks!
Mistertac said:
Well if nothing else maybe you'll get familiar with Odin lol
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Thanks for all of your help!:laugh:
decaturbob said:
you need to research what you can do and can not do....before you turn your phone into a door stop....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630040
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So can u just use the normal SSv3.65 app after in rooted my S4 and just flash custom roms on different slots that are compatible with the Touch wiz kernal?
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RECKLESS PAIN said:
So can u just use the normal SSv3.65 app after in rooted my S4 and just flash custom roms on different slots that are compatible with the Touch wiz kernal?
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you have to use the safestrap version for your firmware....
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you have to use the safestrap version for your firmware....
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Oh ok. And another thing is after I root my S4 (Mk2) it says Ill get some custom flag thing during boot up? What does that mean? And once I go to a Kit kat ROM can I go back to stock 4.3? Like if I put the ROM on Stock Slot and i wanna go back to Original stock like i am now. Any way i can do that?
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I'm sure Decaturbob will also answer you but. .
The custom flag/splash screen just means your phone has detected that is been modified. No biggie at all.
And you're not going to be able to load a Kit Kat rom just yet. They are working on a way to do it I heard but for now you're only going to be able to run TW roms based off your current build MK2.
There is no down grading your stock rom either.
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Oh ok. And another thing is after I root my S4 (Mk2) it says Ill get some custom flag thing during boot up? What does that mean?
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That's correct. The phone has an application that scans for modified system files and will detect that you're rooted. Then, when you boot, it'll show an image of an open padlock and the word "Custom" for a few seconds before continuing the boot.
Some people freak out over that. However, you don't have much choice here. If you want it rooted, then you're changing files on the ROM. That's customizing it, and will be detected. If you don't want it to show up as "Custom", then you want a factory stock device.
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And once I go to a Kit kat ROM can I go back to stock 4.3? Like if I put the ROM on Stock Slot and i wanna go back to Original stock like i am now. Any way i can do that?
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No. First, it's fairly likely that taking the Kit Kat 4.4 update will fail if you've modified your phone. You'll need to return it to very close to stock for 4.4 to apply cleanly.
Second, if you go to Kit Kat, your phone will be unrooted, Safestrap recovery will be removed, and you'll be stuck with a kernel that currently is not rootable. If you have a Verizon or AT&T phone (or any other with a locked bootloader), you won't be able to root it at the moment, so won't be able to do anything else.
Once VZ releases 4.4, we'll work on ways to get past factory stock, but that's not guaranteed to be successful until we see what VZ gives us.
Edit: And no, once you've updated to Kit Kat, you can't downgrade to 4.3. You'll need to use ROMs compatible with the 4.4 kernel.
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That's correct. The phone has an application that scans for modified system files and will detect that you're rooted. Then, when you boot, it'll show an image of an open padlock and the word "Custom" for a few seconds before continuing the boot.
Some people freak out over that. However, you don't have much choice here. If you want it rooted, then you're changing files on the ROM. That's customizing it, and will be detected. If you don't want it to show up as "Custom", then you want a factory stock device.
No. First, it's fairly likely that taking the Kit Kat 4.4 update will fail if you've modified your phone. You'll need to return it to very close to stock for 4.4 to apply cleanly.
Second, if you go to Kit Kat, your phone will be unrooted, Safestrap recovery will be removed, and you'll be stuck with a kernel that currently is not rootable. If you have a Verizon or AT&T phone (or any other with a locked bootloader), you won't be able to root it at the moment, so won't be able to do anything else.
Once VZ releases 4.4, we'll work on ways to get past factory stock, but that's not guaranteed to be successful until we see what VZ gives us.
Edit: And no, once you've updated to Kit Kat, you can't downgrade to 4.3. You'll need to use ROMs compatible with the 4.4 kernel.
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So right now since I got the Verizon Galaxy S4 (Mk2) there is no root for it? and would my safest thing to do is not even root it/ put custom ROM right? I just got it and it doesn't have insurance but I don't wanna mess up a great phone like this.
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RECKLESS PAIN said:
So right now since I got the Verizon Galaxy S4 (Mk2) there is no root for it? and would my safest thing to do is not even root it/ put custom ROM right? I just got it and it doesn't have insurance but I don't wanna mess up a great phone like this.
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MK2 can be rooted - click here.
Once rooted, you can install custom ROMs using Safestrap.
You really should, however, start here as that sticky thread will explain a lot of what you're asking.
Use eclipse 3.0 touchwiz. Almost AOSP
Search upgrade/downgrade safestrap and read and read again. I currently on NC2 and I am debating on trying downgrade but it seems very involved for the couple of AOSP rom that can be patched and used with safestrap and mk2. Still not sure whether I am willing to lose the WI - FI.
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Hello, not new to rooting and such but I'm a little confused. Just got this Note 2 after breaking my G2. I'm on ND7, managed to root and install safestrap. I've made a stock back up and flashed over my stock as there is no rom slot support yet. I've flashed Alliance 30 and it worked well. My question is, can I flash other Rom's like Wilson's CM12? My bootloader is still locked. Is there a safe way to unlock it? I've searched and found that if you have a locked bootloader you can't flash kernels. I think? Not trying to be annoying. Just confused. I haven't used safestrap since my old Razr days, lol. Any help would be awesome. Thanks in advance. ..
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I think you can flash any rom using safestrap. The only ones I tried so far are DN3 and Alliancerom. They flashed with no problems. I would like to add on to this question though, Can I flash any mods using safestrap?
Right. Or kernels for that matter? It's strange because there's some people with unlocked bootloader's, some with safe strap, and some just plain old stock rooted (which was a pain in it's self).
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Did a little more digging into the thread, basically if your bootloader is locked, the only Rom's that you can flash are those with the same build and kernel that you are currently on. So you were right. As far as flashing mods with safestrap, still unsure. ???
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No other ROMs besides the above mentioned? Seems almost worth sending it to that company to downgrade
any group pricing?
Installed Mocha DrIzzle, liking it so far except the network speed mod
If I couldnt stand to be without telelphone....
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No other ROMs besides the above mentioned? Seems almost worth sending it to that company to downgrade
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I'd be on the "Send it Off" wagon.
I've seen destructions for using ODIN to flash a KIES image in, and then go about fixing it that way but many many more posts saying this is impossible.
What I'd like to know, if I have to go with the same darn kernel etc, is how the everloving **** to get rid of ALL and I mean *ALL* of the crapware/verizonware/amazonware/etc and completely strip the touchwhiz down to just what I need....
This phone thing is a nasty addiction....:cyclops:
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No other ROMs besides the above mentioned? Seems almost worth sending it to that company to downgrade
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Anyone know if there is a list? I was just given this phone. I rooted it, but also stuck with the locked boot loader. I did install Safestrap and did a back up, and was able to create a ROM slot, but that is all I've done so far.
Since I'm "developmentally chsllenged" (I can follow instructions, but I can't do any development work or anything) I try to just go with trusted info, which has worked so far. I just came from a RAZR Maxx HD with CM12 and am not happy with the way this phone runs.
I'm in the same boat as you guys, and I believe you can only flash 4.4.2 ROMs. That's what I gathered from the Safestrap thread. However, you can (and should) backup your stock ROM in Safestrap and flash other ROMs over that.
I'm currently using Alliance, and it's decent. Nowhere near the amount of modifications as CyanideL, which is really what I want, but can't install because it's currently on Android 5.x.
Ridiculous what Samsung has done to this phone. Glad it was relatively cheap though, good lesson to avoid any manufacturer who locks the bootloader in the future.
Does anyone know if we can just flash an older version of the stock ROM? Couldn't we odin, or something, down to 4.1.x and go from there?
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I'm in the same boat as you guys, and I believe you can only flash 4.4.2 ROMs. That's what I gathered from the Safestrap thread. However, you can (and should) backup your stock ROM in Safestrap and flash other ROMs over that.
I'm currently using Alliance, and it's decent. Nowhere near the amount of modifications as CyanideL, which is really what I want, but can't install because it's currently on Android 5.x.
Ridiculous what Samsung has done to this phone. Glad it was relatively cheap though, good lesson to avoid any manufacturer who locks the bootloader in the future.
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I have SS and did a back up, but I thought I read about people running into problems and then bricking? I think they got them back after doing some stuff but since I am no where as talented with this stuff I try to be cautious. I've rooted and SS' ed a Bionic and ran several ROM's on that one until replacing it with a RAZR Maxx HD that I rooted (and was able to take advantage of the exploit before they pushed a patch and unlocked the bootloader).
If I can just flash over the stock ROM safely, then I'll get flashing right away
I read the issues with bricking as well, but I think those people were trying to flash 5.x ROMs. I agree about wanting to avoid it though. I have a HTC One S that I saved from being bricked a few times, but I don't even wanna have to go through the process of that for the Note 2. Here's the Safestrap thread, if you're a little wary and would like to read more about it.
As far as I can tell, you should be good with flashing 4.4.2 ROMs, since that's what I did and we seem to have the same config (4.4.2 Note 2, Safestrap 3.72). The only thing I wonder is what TWRP you have. I have the latest 2.7.0.x. If that's what you have, you should be just fine with flashing a 4.4.2 ROM over the stock ROM.