I received a TrueSmart yesterday (bought it off a KS backer) that "never had any problems".
I can say that so far, most functions work as I would need them to (Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G, GPS, etc.) and I'm not really interested in those I have not tested (waterproof I simply assume it is not, for example).
There is, however, one thing that is absolutely horrendous, and that's call quality through the TS microphone (so not bluetooth). My friend says she'd rather not call me at all as it is unbearable. Specifically, when I am not speaking there's a "whoosh"ing sound at regular intervals, which recedes when I am speaking but my voice then sounds almost garbled. There is also an unacceptable amount of echo.
Now, when using the voice record app, there is no problem whatsoever with the microphone. Which imho means that it cannot be a hardware fault.
I'm hoping someone here can enlighten me:
- Could it be that this problem is based on ineffectual Audio Echo Cancellation in the software? (to me, that would explain the feedback-like periodical whoosh and the echo)
- Is there any chance whatsoever that this issue could be resolved on my device?
Edited to add some more info:
- Kernel 3.4.5
- OUI 2.0
- 20140706-V2.0
Holy Bear said:
I received a TrueSmart yesterday (bought it off a KS backer) that "never had any problems".
I can say that so far, most functions work as I would need them to (Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G, GPS, etc.) and I'm not really interested in those I have not tested (waterproof I simply assume it is not, for example).
There is, however, one thing that is absolutely horrendous, and that's call quality through the TS microphone (so not bluetooth). My friend says she'd rather not call me at all as it is unbearable. Specifically, when I am not speaking there's a "whoosh"ing sound at regular intervals, which recedes when I am speaking but my voice then sounds almost garbled. There is also an unacceptable amount of echo.
Now, when using the voice record app, there is no problem whatsoever with the microphone. Which imho means that it cannot be a hardware fault.
I'm hoping someone here can enlighten me:
- Could it be that this problem is based on ineffectual Audio Echo Cancellation in the software? (to me, that would explain the feedback-like periodical whoosh and the echo)
- Is there any chance whatsoever that this issue could be resolved on my device?
Edited to add some more info:
- Kernel 3.4.5
- OUI 2.0
- 20140706-V2.0
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Supposedly the 512/4 batch had both SW and HW problems, being better on 1/8.
20140706 oui2.0 seems like a strange combination, from April and forward it should be oui2.1 (not that that oui matters, but there may be firmware fixes...)
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20140706 oui2.0 seems like a strange combination, from April and forward it should be oui2.1 (not that that oui matters, but there may be firmware fixes...)
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Ooops, my bad: OUI 2.1
I too purchased an Omate Truesmart 1/8 1900 from a seller on Swappa, and all of the people I have talked to using the built-in Speakerphone and mic have stated that I am extremely muffled and they cannot understand me. The Google Search voice recognition works fine, and voice to text works fine as well. Was there ever a resolution to this problem?
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I too purchased an Omate Truesmart 1/8 1900 from a seller on Swappa, and all of the people I have talked to using the built-in Speakerphone and mic have stated that I am extremely muffled and they cannot understand me. The Google Search voice recognition works fine, and voice to text works fine as well. Was there ever a resolution to this problem?
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Not on my end.
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I am considering getting a Motorola HS830 bluetooth headset (see http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details/0,,75,00.html for details), but would like to know if it works with the Wizard before I do. Unfortunately, it is not stocked at any of my local stores.
Has anyone had the opportunity to try one, and if so, what is your opinion of it?
Thanks in advance.
I'm using a HS820 with no problems at all. I would guess that the 830 works as well.
Snail
magicsnail said:
I'm using a HS820 with no problems at all. I would guess that the 830 works as well.
Snail
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I appreciate your comment. However, the HS830 is actually designed as an attachment for a motorcycle helmet and is therefore a very different device from the HS820 (which is a fairly standard headset).
I should probably have been a bit more specific in what sort of information I was looking for in my original post. I am specifically wondering about the following...
1. Will it pair with a Wizard? If the answer is no, then the remaining questions don't matter of course.
2. What is the incoming sound quality like - can you hear whoever your talking to clearly when driving on the highway, etc.?
3. What is the outgoing sound quality like - can whoever your talking to hear you, or does the wind drown you out, etc.?
4. Does the built in Voice Speed Dialer utility work well with it?
5. Does it work well with MS Voice Command using the registry hack to enable it via bluetooth?
6. Any other opinions regarding the device (size of the buttons, weight of the pendant, whatever).
Hi.
I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
Morti said:
Hi.
I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
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It depends; with the voice recorder and Skype application it hardly seems to pick up any of my voice. But I never have problems with Google Voice search picking up my voice and I downloaded an audio spectrum analyzer tool that seems to show me that the microphone is getting good response.
Same problem here. The microphone barely registers any sound at all. Can't use it with a voice recorder or IPphone app.
Is there a setting or something to increase microphone sensitivity or is that just something Sony users have to live with?
Thanks!
Hmm... Not just me, then.
As far as I can tell, it's something we have to live with. Sony's 4.2.2 update improved matters somewhat, but the quality still sucks and you can forget Skype on AOSP ROMs for the time being.
Oh well. Thanks for voting. I was considering sending my tablet back for a replacement again but if everyone has this problem to some degree then it's not worth it. Weird how the initial reviews of the device praised the microphone though (and that was on 4.1).
I've decided to stick with the tablet for the time being, though. It's just so thin and light and waterproof. Just have to live with Sony's software and a sucky microphone I guess.
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Hi all i have posted this in the omate forum as i believe the 2 watches to be very similar if not technically identical and was wondering how others have found the call quality of there watch. I received my iconbit callisto today and i am more than impressed with everything about it apart from the mic during calls it sounds like i am underwater when calling using the watch mic with some strange background interference noises, i can hear the caller perfectly through the strap speaker but they say my end sounds strange, calling using a bluetooth headset is clear though.
Anyone else have experienced this or know a fix? I have heared there is a patch available ensec i think its called, anyone know if the patch helps with the mic?
Im amazed with the performance of the watch its just a shame about the watch mic
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EnSec does not fix the mic issue however it is very unwise to use your Callisto without the patch. There is also no fix for the mic issue at this time.
b4d5h0t said:
Hi all i have posted this in the omate forum as i believe the 2 watches to be very similar if not technically identical and was wondering how others have found the call quality of there watch. I received my iconbit callisto today and i am more than impressed with everything about it apart from the mic during calls it sounds like i am underwater when calling using the watch mic with some strange background interference noises, i can hear the caller perfectly through the strap speaker but they say my end sounds strange, calling using a bluetooth headset is clear though.
Anyone else have experienced this or know a fix? I have heared there is a patch available ensec i think its called, anyone know if the patch helps with the mic?
Im amazed with the performance of the watch its just a shame about the watch mic
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I have too this problem with my watch Omate TrueSmart, I hope that it will fix.
Arie.
I wish we could figure out what is the cause of some TrueSmart watches, but not all of them, having the noisy mic issue.
If the same watch models running the same firmware are behaving differently as regards the sound quality of the mic, it seems to me that the difference must be in how they were assembled ? If so, it might be correctable.
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Thanks for the replys, i have seen your youtube tutorial Loki for rooting and applying the ensec patch and i will be having a go at that very soon, as for the watch mic i have tested it using the voice recorder and also sending voice via whatsapp and the mic works fine its only during a call it becomes slightly unclear with strange background noises yet when speaking through a bluetooth headset during a call its perfect. i am going to try it through viber and skype through wifi and 3g then again with another sim card to see if i can work out whats going on, such a small annoying problem on a great device.
I really hope it is a firmware/software issue so it can maybe be rectified but it might be just interference from the cell radio messing with the mic
Is this a common fault with all of these smartwatches? or only some and maybe we could find out if its effecting both the European and US versions as dont we both run on a slightly different cell radio frequency
Im in the UK using a giffgaff sim which runs on the o2 network.
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Got mine yesterday but
I cant use it as a phone without a BT head set, Call quality is horrible on the other end. Hope they have a fix soon
master reset
This might be a dumb questions for some but I can not figure out how to do a master reset on my Omate.
Any help please
Hi, everyone!
I'm G850F owner, and I have quiet noise/hissing in top speaker during calls. It's there all the time GSM is working, including tones before pickup.
It sounds like old radio receiver between stations. Doesn't disturb phone calls, however it's still very annoying. Not everyone hears it.
It's constant volume level, independent of call volume, so it's best heard when volume is at minimum and between dial tones. Same sim-card sounds ok in other phones.
I've heard about "Comfort noise" thing, but not sure that is it: I've tried 10+ different phones and smartphones, and only 1 old Nokia sounded like that. And it's not comforting at all
I've even went to shop and they gave me another device to test - same result. Device was from same batch as mine, however.
So... the question is: do you hear it, how is it comparing to other devices, and do you have some more information?
P.S. When recording call and then listen to recording using same speaker - no noise. So it's either interference from GSM module to speaker, or I don't know what ) Maybe it's software? Then there should be a way to remove/lower it.
SnipER.UA said:
Hi, everyone!
I'm G850F owner, and I have quiet noise/hissing in top speaker during calls. It's there all the time GSM is working, including tones before pickup.
It sounds like old radio receiver between stations. Doesn't disturb phone calls, however it's still very annoying. Not everyone hears it.
It's constant volume level, independent of call volume, so it's best heard when volume is at minimum and between dial tones. Same sim-card sounds ok in other phones.
I've heard about "Comfort noise" thing, but not sure that is it: I've tried 10+ different phones and smartphones, and only 1 old Nokia sounded like that. And it's not comforting at all
I've even went to shop and they gave me another device to test - same result. Device was from same batch as mine, however.
So... the question is: do you hear it, how is it comparing to other devices, and do you have some more information?
P.S. When recording call and then listen to recording using same speaker - no noise. So it's either interference from GSM module to speaker, or I don't know what ) Maybe it's software? Then there should be a way to remove/lower it.
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Hmmm i do not know what it is. But just FYI I have come across a few threads about this issue for the Alpha on a Swedish Android forum (Swedroid) . A couple of people there are having this issue. So far I have not seen any solution.
Interesting! Just got mine and I have the same problem. So it's just us or everyone has that problem? When I use the earphones it gets a whole better! Is it common or I should return mine asap?
Common unfortunately. I've got used to it ) Not all people hear it at all.
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Common unfortunately. I've got used to it ) Not all people hear it at all.
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That's a pity coz I was almost sure that I got the perfect phone except from that apparently! that sound of a frying pan drives me nuts! Anyway since everyone has the same issue and I don't have a faulty one I can get used to it! Thanks a lot for replying!
Hello, All!
Motorola phones have obviously bluetooth issues. I found 3 different threads reporting same issue, but no answers(see links on the bottom of this post):
There is no full duplex capability.
I'm owner of Motorola Photon Q, and active user of bluetooth headset. If during call my counterpart begin to speak, my handset stops to send audio to counterpart. Especially if counterpart is in loudly environment - audio stream from me stops every few seconds.
This issue occurs only by cell phone calls. If i make VoIP call with CSIPsimple softphone - i doesn't happen, and everything work perfectly.
I did tests already with 2 different devices - Motorola Photon Q(xt897), Motorola Droid 4 (xt894), and four different headsets from Plantronics, Jabra, Sony, Allereli with stock Motorola firmware as well as Cyanogenmod 10 and latest milstone builds from Cyanogenmod 11. In all cases i was able to reproduce same issue.
Questions:
1. How can i debug/localize root cause?
2. Could is be issue caused by BlueZ->Bluedroid replacement?
3. Could is be issue caused by incompatibility of Motorola phones with non-motorola BT headsets?
4. Should i post it to any other resource?
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376988
Everytime i use a bt headset when the other part talk to me and i try to speak at the same time they can' t hear me. Today i made a test: i asked my wife to count from one to ten and i did the same together. Althought i was able to hear her, she wasn't able to hear me! I tried four different headsets and the problem is common. Sorry for my bad english.
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171653
I have tested ALL possible ROM's and none work! I now have the famous CyanogenMod 7, latest nightly build and no luck.
BT headsets only work as half-duplex !! Can you fuc'en imagine! WTF?! The other person can not hear your voice, while he speaks or some other backround noise comes from he's end.
I have Jabra Wave, which is awesome and it works with all other phones, Nokia that is. I have read on some forum that this is Motorola policy to prevent use of other than motorola headsets, WTF!!
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124131
I purchased this BH-501 headset today for my Defy to listen to music and to use in phone calls. The device pairs properly, the audio quality is good, buttons are working however during calls it seems that voice is breaking up and the volume is low (I can hear the other person perfectly however he can barely hear me and it breaks up every few seconds).
Best regards!
Stasila
stasila said:
Hello, All!
Motorola phones have obviously bluetooth issues. I found 3 different threads reporting same issue, but no answers(see links on the bottom of this post):
There is no full duplex capability.
I'm owner of Motorola Photon Q, and active user of bluetooth headset. If during call my counterpart begin to speak, my handset stops to send audio to counterpart. Especially if counterpart is in loudly environment - audio stream from me stops every few seconds.
This issue occurs only by cell phone calls. If i make VoIP call with CSIPsimple softphone - i doesn't happen, and everything work perfectly.
I did tests already with 2 different devices - Motorola Photon Q(xt897), Motorola Droid 4 (xt894), and four different headsets from Plantronics, Jabra, Sony, Allereli with stock Motorola firmware as well as Cyanogenmod 10 and latest milstone builds from Cyanogenmod 11. In all cases i was able to reproduce same issue.
Questions:
1. How can i debug/localize root cause?
2. Could is be issue caused by BlueZ->Bluedroid replacement?
3. Could is be issue caused by incompatibility of Motorola phones with non-motorola BT headsets?
4. Should i post it to any other resource?
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376988
Everytime i use a bt headset when the other part talk to me and i try to speak at the same time they can' t hear me. Today i made a test: i asked my wife to count from one to ten and i did the same together. Althought i was able to hear her, she wasn't able to hear me! I tried four different headsets and the problem is common. Sorry for my bad english.
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171653
I have tested ALL possible ROM's and none work! I now have the famous CyanogenMod 7, latest nightly build and no luck.
BT headsets only work as half-duplex !! Can you fuc'en imagine! WTF?! The other person can not hear your voice, while he speaks or some other backround noise comes from he's end.
I have Jabra Wave, which is awesome and it works with all other phones, Nokia that is. I have read on some forum that this is Motorola policy to prevent use of other than motorola headsets, WTF!!
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124131
I purchased this BH-501 headset today for my Defy to listen to music and to use in phone calls. The device pairs properly, the audio quality is good, buttons are working however during calls it seems that voice is breaking up and the volume is low (I can hear the other person perfectly however he can barely hear me and it breaks up every few seconds).
Best regards!
Stasila
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Hi there, I also experience issues with my XT897 and Bluetooth headsets. It also happens with Motorola headsets however, as I was using motorokr headsets for years until just recently, but regardless, I still have calls where the other person can't hear me at all, or they say I am very quiet.
This is intermittent however, as other people/calls work OK.
I have tried many ROM's, however I believe all the ROM's are developed from Cyanogen's base, so the issue is likely to be ingrained into them all if it is a CMRom/XT897 hardware error.
Try stock ROM & see how you go. I have for a brief time, and didn't notice any BT issues. I'm about to go back to stock (with some bloat removed) for another go.
Hope that helps.
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BT answer mutes all audio, all other functions work
Two headsets - Blueparrot and cheap FM auto adapter. I can originate calls without error form wither unit. Incoming calls when answered cause the BT to be muted (both incoming and outgoing audio) but the call is connected. If I switch from BT to handset, call proceeds normally. Phone is Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080M running 4.4.4 SU6-7 "rooted" per CrashXXL, but this has never worked right. Originating call is fine, using BT to tether a tablet works fine. Only audio on answer seems mis-routed. Is there a diagnostic tool/app to examine BT connections? Oh yes, speaker phone also borked, but "Yako Elgoog" talks out of it just fine.
Replying to this thread to make sure it is saved for posteriority. I'm sure a few others have this issue. What do we have in common?