I keep seeing the update icon in my notifications and I'm actually considering it but is it worth it? I'm not sure I'm keeping this replacement phone so I might not root it the thought of losing external SD card writing is horrible so I'm leaning more towards leaving it on 4.2 those that have upgraded are you happy with it? What does it improve?
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I keep seeing the update icon in my notifications and I'm actually considering it but is it worth it? I'm not sure I'm keeping this replacement phone so I might not root it the thought of losing external SD card writing is horrible so I'm leaning more towards leaving it on 4.2 those that have upgraded are you happy with it? What does it improve?
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its up to u. nothing special. battery life is horrible. if u r s-off, u can write to the ext sd card or edit the platform.xml file here r instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-601/help/sd-card-permissions-off-t2833195
Sounds like it's not worth upgrading
If you're not having any problems, and you just aren't into tweaking and farting around with your phone, I would skip it for now. The battery life on the stock update was a real loser for me.
Now if you don't mind wading into the rooting and rom-ing pool, go ahead and do it, the more the merrier.
Well I was rooted on 4.2 but I had to send my old phone back to Virgin mobile for a replacement. I'm debating on whether I want to root this one. I actually considering selling it while it's basically in mint condition for the HTC 816 5.5" but I'm not sure
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Well I was rooted on 4.2 but I had to send my old phone back to Virgin mobile for a replacement. I'm debating on whether I want to root this one. I actually considering selling it while it's basically in mint condition for the HTC 816 5.5" but I'm not sure
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Might as well unload it, get the next thing that we can all complain about at some point. :laugh:
I'm leaning more towards keeping it since I'd lose so much on selling it.. Like probably $100
Do you guys know if there's a way to get rid of the update notification?
u can always unroot via supersu. i think u can freeze it via titanium backup
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A few people who got there's already have posted on here and other threads it may be locked pretty good.If this is true and IF HTC does not send a OTA out for it will you keep it after 29 days?
To me if it can't be rooted by week 2-3 back it goes to sprint i have no use for it if i can't MOD it.
why theMOD EDIT does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
jersey221 said:
why the **** does everyone play the what if game.
htc said they will unlock them how about we just wait and see and stop saying what if this happens.
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Yep and we have the engineer hboot. It's all a matter of patience
Im more concerned about the picture quality and battery life. I havent used my digital camera except a few times since me and my gf got the evo 4g. The 8mp cameras awesome. The battery life sucks and from what i understand should be alot better on 3d. Im so sick of my friends iphone lastin all day at work. Me on the other hand i have to throw it on the charger by lunch
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YoungSinema said:
I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Came in here to post exactly this, word for word.
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I'll still keep it. I know it'll be rooted eventually. I'm currently using a Hero, so the 3D will be a definite upgrade for me.
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Me too! ten chars
oh and i would keep mine you know why?
cause rooting doesnt determine if i keep the phone or not yeah it would be nice to but its all extra.
I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
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I would bet 70% of the people on here would send it back before 30 days if it can't be rooted.
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Yup, I'm too addicted to modding and flashing to cut it out cold turkey. The 3d is clearly a badass phone, with or without root. But for it to keep me happy, I need root. I'll give it the 29 days. If no root by then, I'd return it and go back to using my Evo, then wait and see if a root method is found for the 3d. I feel pretty confident that root will be found within that time frame though.
Anything at this point is just speculation. No one from the general public will have an EVO 3d in hand until Wednesday at the earliest.
If HTC actually plans to unlock this device, it's quite possible they are waiting until the actual release to provide the code or key. After all, what good is a key if the lock hasn't been made yet? I hope HTC provides the key publicly and not as an OTA or other update. Sprint likely would not let that fly, but it will take Sprint six months to pass it through testing if they did.
What other phone would I go to? The Nexus? If there was something out there maybe but nothing else will be here in time...or anything good anyway.
But this bad boy will be rooted. It might be a month from now but HTC will hold up there side of the bargain and give us root access.
If it can't be rooted it will be replaced. Give a dog a bone.
But it will be rooted no doubt. Have no worries friends!
well i am rather addicted to flashing roms and themes so i dont know that i would want a phone where i cant do that but im also into having a faster phone... sigh
I'll keep mine, preferably rooted; but if not, I still have another Og Evo.
We have an eng hboot. Its not about if, its about when.
seriously???? a) Do you go out looking to start [email protected]#? b) we have already had this thread with a poll even. c) HTC said the phone boot loader issue will be resolved. for a man taking sprints word who was told by HTC about no shortage issue you are now questioning HTC? WTF??
Not even sure why I waste my time responding to you.
Originally I was going to get 2, but with what looks to be a shoddy camera and not knowing when the bootloader will be unlocked, I'm going to get just one. If the one, stock, ends up being better then I feel it might be or it gets full root within a couple weeks, I'll get a 2nd. If not, I'll wait for the Galaxy S 2 and might even return the 1st EVO 3D.
It's going to boil down to how I feel about the one I get. If it's better then expected, I'll get #2. If not, and depending on how well it performs to my liking, I might keep it or get rid of it too b4 the 30 days are up.
To be honest, I'm really hoping it's better then what I think it's going to be because I really don't like Samsung phones.
I'll be keeping it. If full root isn't gained in that time frame, we might have a temp root, allowing us to at least run root apps and do some other things.
I'd probably kill it with fire.
I am looking at a good price on a Thunderbolt, but it is stuck at the HTC screen.
From poking around this forum it looks like there is a good chance I could fix it.
Any thoughts as to odds that this is a brick and not fixable?
there is a good chance that its fixable, yes. I have seen Thunderbolt's average $200 on craigslist(heck, have even seen Bionic's for $250)... so, the fact that there is something wrong with it I wouldn't offer more then $150.. actually, even that is a tad high.
Cool - getting it for $100.
Looks like even a brick sells for 70-100 on ebay so I think it is a risk worth taking.
Thanks for the help!
Just picked the phone up - it looks brand new. Even got the 32GB memory card!
The guy I bought it from worked in a Verizon store and said it was not rooted.
When I do the volume down during power up I can get into the boot loader.
Charging now and off to search the forums for next steps, but any suggestion would be much appreciated.
Sorry relatively new to HTCs
If you can get into the bootloader that's a good sign. Find a ROM that looks good, which includes a radio. Load that into the top level of your microSD card and make sure it is called UPDATE.ZIP.
Go ahead and boot into the bootloader and flash the new ROM and see if you get into the O/S this time.
Does it have the sim card still in there?
Robert
Yes still has SIM card
Looking for a ROM now
Will this work?
PG05IMG_Mecha_VERIZON_WWE_1.12.605.6_Radio_1. 16.0 0.0223r_NV_8k_1.41_9k_1.64_release_174685_signed.zip
Renamed to PG05IMG no update
Edit didn't work - says this one is older than current.
Looking for a newer rom...
if you haven't already looked at it, there's a virtual shopping list of ROMs over in the Development subforum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249328
Personally, I like Sense so I would suggest either one of the hybrids or the Sense 3.0 ROMs. Pay attention to installation info and radio requirements.
Unfortunately, I cannot tell from all that gobbledygook numbers and letters how old that is. I am sure someone else here will be able to.
Good luck!
Robert
You can't downgrade unless you are rooted, you can only flash upgrades only one you maybe be able to flash is 2.11.605.5 if your phone is not there already.
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Got 2.11.605.5 stock to load! Now to call VZW!
Thanks for the help guys!
EDIT - Oh wait - now to see about rooting!
I just received a reconditioned rezound from Verizon's warranty department. I have 10 days with both (broken and reconditioned) phones. I want to root the new phone. I figure if I use a new SD card in the new phone and follow all of Nil's Business Sense instructions that should work. Then if I put in the old SD card I would have all of my settings and apps restored. I'm not sure if that really would work, that's why I am asking you guys & gals. I didn't have the guts to root the original phone, but now I am ready. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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I just received a reconditioned rezound from Verizon's warranty department. I have 10 days with both (broken and reconditioned) phones. I want to root the new phone. I figure if I use a new SD card in the new phone and follow all of Nil's Business Sense instructions that should work. Then if I put in the old SD card I would have all of my settings and apps restored. I'm not sure if that really would work, that's why I am asking you guys & gals. I didn't have the guts to root the original phone, but now I am ready. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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SD card doesn't affect anything
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As cslingerland stated, your SD card doesn't actually affect anything. You only use it to hold the roms and whatnot to install.
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As cslingerland stated, your SD card doesn't actually affect anything. You only use it to hold the roms and whatnot to install.
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So if my SD card idea wont work, What is a good easy way to root my phone without bricking it. I thought my SD card idea was a good one, but I was off base it seems. Please help! :cyclops:
Easiest way to root the phone without bricking it? The same way everyone else does?
Unlocking Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776953&postcount=80
S-OFF: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
Flash recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679
Return to S-ON on whichever phone you're returning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25167284#post25167284
Just a brief note that we're currently experiencing issues with the HTC Dev unlock. Their site isn't happy with us right now. Follow along here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475864&page=13
To root or not to root, that is the question
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Easiest way to root the phone without bricking it? The same way everyone else does?
Unlocking Bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776953&postcount=80
S-OFF: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
Flash recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679
Return to S-ON on whichever phone you're returning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25167284#post25167284
Just a brief note that we're currently experiencing issues with the HTC Dev unlock. Their site isn't happy with us right now. Follow along here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475864&page=13
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You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
Pro tip: If you don't S-OFF, you can't brick this phone. It's actually pretty much impossible to brick unless you S-OFF. You can "soft brick" it, but you can recover. Until you S-OFF, you don't have enough access to the important stuff to actually brick, and you can do everything even when you're S-ON...some of it takes a little more work, but if you're worried about bricking, it's safer to stay S-ON.
So, I recommend staying S-ON when you're starting out. It's a big time safety net.
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You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
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Which part are you having trouble with? Also, what is your ultimate goal with rooting? What are you wanting to do once rooted?
Sad Noob said:
You call that easy? you must be a M.I.T. graduate. I graduated from Nova South Eastern University, and let me tell you, It makes no sense to me. That's why I am asking for help!
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I've helped a ton of people unlock and root their phones via teamviewer. I'm guessing that you're installing a new RUU to get the latest firmware. Or trying to s off because of the sdcard comment.
If you're having problems the sdcard that you normally use could just be copied to a folder on your computer and then use it like normal, for a regular root and unlock it shouldn't wipe your sdcard.
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I'm A One Percenter... I did the wire trick
Amost ready to take the plunge
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I've helped a ton of people unlock and root their phones via teamviewer. I'm guessing that you're installing a new RUU to get the latest firmware. Or trying to s off because of the sdcard comment.
If you're having problems the sdcard that you normally use could just be copied to a folder on your computer and then use it like normal, for a regular root and unlock it shouldn't wipe your sdcard.
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I'm A One Percenter... I did the wire trick
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I read a lot about the wire trick. Some people swear by it, others say it's a sure way to short out your phone. I've seen videos on You tube and the procedure looks pretty simple. I was nervous about voiding my warranty, but after just receiving my replacement (certified like new) Rezound, I think they just use the returned phone for parts for the next replacement, So wish me luck as I do the paper clip trick
One question... will my paid for apps live through the back-up to my sd card and back to the phone again
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I read a lot about the wire trick. Some people swear by it, others say it's a sure way to short out your phone. I've seen videos on You tube and the procedure looks pretty simple. I was nervous about voiding my warranty, but after just receiving my replacement (certified like new) Rezound, I think they just use the returned phone for parts for the next replacement, So wish me luck as I do the paper clip trick
One question... will my paid for apps live through the back-up to my sd card and back to the phone again
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If you bought them from Google play or have the apk then yeaa. Just back them up to your PC if you have the apk. And I really recommend you don't s-off.... Unless you know what you're doing. One wrong move after you s-off and you have a paper weight and not a phone any more.
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If you bought them from Google play or have the apk then yeaa. Just back them up to your PC if you have the apk. And I really recommend you don't s-off.... Unless you know what you're doing. One wrong move after you s-off and you have a paper weight and not a phone any more.
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I concur. And I'm glad you said that cslingerland. I've read so many posts from people saying "just s-off" to people who clearly aren't that well versed in all this stuff and I think that's bad advice.
I'm still s-on and I don't see a need for me to s-off since I rarely flash ROMs. I have know problem having to flash the kernel separately. And I've always liked using fastboot rather than the various tools and PH98IMG files since I like to know/be certain about what I'm doing and I don't want to end up with various PH98IMG files lying around not even knowing what they are. Turns out a lot of people don't know that a PH98IMG file can be anything, it's just a method to make things easier.
My take. If you don't plan on flashing a rom per day stay s on.
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Hey guys/gals,
Just thought I would share this with everyone. Best Buy has a new policy with their warranty for phones (at least the ones by me do).
You no longer have to ship your phone in for service. All you do is go to the store, tell them your problem, they ship a new phone (the last couple I had replaced arrived in less than 36 hours), and you bring your phone in when the new/re-manufactured one arrives.
This is great if you have a problem where your current phone still works. You don't have to dig out an old phone, or rent a POS loaner phone from BBY, but you can still do all of those things if your phone is unusable.
Like I said just though I would share this info. I think BBY keeps making their protection policies better and better.
Hope this has helped someone!
I will put this to the test this weekend!!! Good find!!!
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Hey guys/gals,
Just thought I would share this with everyone. Best Buy has a new policy with their warranty for phones (at least the ones by me do).
You no longer have to ship your phone in for service. All you do is go to the store, tell them your problem, they ship a new phone (the last couple I had replaced arrived in less than 36 hours), and you bring your phone in when the new/re-manufactured one arrives.
This is great if you have a problem where your current phone still works. You don't have to dig out an old phone, or rent a POS loaner phone from BBY, but you can still do all of those things if your phone is unusable.
Like I said just though I would share this info. I think BBY keeps making their protection policies better and better.
Hope this has helped someone!
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This is what they did for me when I needed a replacement about six months ago.
They did not offer it to me until I spoke with the manager because i didn't want to be without a phone for a few days or use one of their loaner phones.
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about time they changed it, I canx my 3x black ties just because of this
Best buy insurance, ftw. I will never buy another phone anywhere else. Im on my 3rd lte and i got the lte free because they had no more 3d's. They ask basic questions about what happened and then ship it out. I got my last replacement in 2 days. Took it in on a Monday at 7pm and got my replacement on Wednesday at 7pm.
Awesome. I love black tie (bb). I had to replace due to malfunctions and no questions or hassles in fact the reason I signed up for black tie was the guy indicated I would never have to send anything in and that I would get a new replacement directly from the store which they did. I even had the guy write and confirm that on my sales receipt because I didn't believe him.
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Thank you all for the info. I won't be going to Sprint stores anymore. BB sounds like the way to go now. Back when I worked there it definitely wasn't but a lot has changed since then. Good to know.
My EVO has developed a problem where I'm getting all sorts of crazy noise on the screen. Definitely a hardware problem as it even has problems with the HTC logo on boot. I'm currently S-OFF with the latest CM release installed. Do I need to unroot and restore back to Sense before I take the phone into Best Buy, or do they not care?
Thanks for the help and all the useful info!!
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My EVO has developed a problem where I'm getting all sorts of crazy noise on the screen. Definitely a hardware problem as it even has problems with the HTC logo on boot. I'm currently S-OFF with the latest CM release installed. Do I need to unroot and restore back to Sense before I take the phone into Best Buy, or do they not care?
Thanks for the help and all the useful info!!
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I would at least flash a stock rom and splash screen before taking it in. Other than that, my local store doesn't care about root.
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I would at least flash a stock rom and splash screen before taking it in. Other than that, my local store doesn't care about root.
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When i took my last one in i had viper on it but i was taking it in because the screen was crushed. It was still usable thougg and he was sittin there going through the different venom options just amazed. Then i told him i just wanted to erase the data and internal storage and he was amazed by twrp too lmao. He didn't give half a sht.
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When i took my last one in i had viper on it but i was taking it in because the screen was crushed. It was still usable thougg and he was sittin there going through the different venom options just amazed. Then i told him i just wanted to erase the data and internal storage and he was amazed by twrp too lmao. He didn't give half a sht.
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Yeah, my store is the same way, but I doubt every store is the same. To be safe I would backup, flash a stock rom, bring it in and show them the problem, then recover until your "new" phone gets in and the re-flash a stock rom when you bring it back.
I doubt they'd care, but this should cover your a$$ either way.
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Yeah, my store is the same way, but I doubt every store is the same. To be safe I would backup, flash a stock rom, bring it in and show them the problem, then recover until your "new" phone gets in and the re-flash a stock rom when you bring it back.
I doubt they'd care, but this should cover your a$$ either way.
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Best buy covers software though right? So why would it matter? There's nothing saying they don't cover rooted devices. I even asked the manager when i got my 3d and he said if i bricked it I'm covered. So why flash back to stock? Unless youre having issues that could be rom/kernel related of course.. then youll obviously want to flash to something else to make sure its not the rom and then go back to stock to show them its happeneing on there also.
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Best buy covers software though right? So why would it matter? There's nothing saying they don't cover rooted devices. I even asked the manager when i got my 3d and he said if i bricked it I'm covered. So why flash back to stock? Unless youre having issues that could be rom/kernel related of course.. then youll obviously want to flash to something else to make sure its not the rom and then go back to stock to show them its happeneing on there also.
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Because it is better to be safe than sorry. If you read the terms and conditions, they don't list software as covered. They could deny coverage if they wanted to. Every store is not the same, but if you hand them a phone that is obviously not stock, there is more of a chance of them questioning it. I don't think they would, but it takes me 2 minutes to flash back to stock, so I'd rather avoid a potential headache. I'm getting a "new" phone anyway, so what do I care if I leave cm10 on my old one. Plus, it's a good way to wipe your phone.
Personally, if I were a store employee and someone brought me a "bricked" phone that I could prove was rooted, I wouldn't cover them. If you bricked your phone, that's your fault. Best Buy or any other business shouldn't subsidize your hobby, because you didn't know what you were doing. That makes the development community look bad. Now if it were a problem that was obviously not caused by root, I would look the other way.
I'm currently in this situation where my screen is cracked. I too was wondering if I needed to unroot before I had them ship the phone out for repair. What stock ROM does everyone suggest?
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I'm using Sharkie's right now as my daily. It flashes with the new TWRP. One of the other ones that I tried wouldn't flash.
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FattySparks said:
Because it is better to be safe than sorry. If you read the terms and conditions, they don't list software as covered. They could deny coverage if they wanted to. Every store is not the same, but if you hand them a phone that is obviously not stock, there is more of a chance of them questioning it. I don't think they would, but it takes me 2 minutes to flash back to stock, so I'd rather avoid a potential headache. I'm getting a "new" phone anyway, so what do I care if I leave cm10 on my old one. Plus, it's a good way to wipe your phone.
Personally, if I were a store employee and someone brought me a "bricked" phone that I could prove was rooted, I wouldn't cover them. If you bricked your phone, that's your fault. Best Buy or any other business shouldn't subsidize your hobby, because you didn't know what you were doing. That makes the development community look bad. Now if it were a problem that was obviously not caused by root, I would look the other way.
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I see where you are coming from but A. You wouldn't have the power to set a company wide policy B. You would have to account for all the phones sold with the protection plan being quoted "for any reason at all" C. As low hourly wage employee you wouldn't care
Nice to know :thumbup:
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RulingCzar said:
I see where you are coming from but A. You wouldn't have the power to set a company wide policy B. You would have to account for all the phones sold with the protection plan being quoted "for any reason at all" C. As low hourly wage employee you wouldn't care
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Pretty sure he was posting from the perspective of someone who *could* set company wide policy FWIW.
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Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
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kgirlx said:
Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
from death's door
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At this time, I'm sticking with the G3 unless there is a reason to upgrade. I've had the phone for 18 months now and I must say, it has been the absolute best phone I've ever had. Currently, I'm running stock, unrooted Marshmallow and it runs great for me. I haven't needed a reason to root. Root was mainly for Titanium Backup, but the LG Backup tool does just what I need if I ever need to reset the phone or want to try a new ROM.
Greenify runs as well, albeit not automatically, but I made it so that I can just press and hold the "home" button and it launches Greenify before locking the screen and shutting the screen off. Battery life is excellent for me. I can get through the day without having to charge (unless I decide it's time to play a game and then, all bets are off but that's going to be the same for just about any phone).
However, my oldest daughter just upgraded from her iPhone 5s to a Samsung Galaxy S7 and she is absolutely satisfied with it. She became tired of Apple and how difficult it was to copy music, files, etc back and forth without having to use iTunes. Battery life for her is excellent as well and she loves the fact that she can add an SD card to it to store pictures and music. She has a 64gb card in it.
So, if I were to upgrade, I would probably look at the S7 (non-edge) or maybe the LG G5. But, as I said, my phone still runs as good as it did when I first got it in December of 2014, so I have no reason to upgrade.
What would really force me to upgrade eventually would be if another major exploit was found for the version of Marshmallow that won't get patched by LG/Verizon. Then, I would probably upgrade.