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I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
I haven't seen it specifically on this phone, but I've seen the Qualcomm MSM8660 demos showing full mirroring. We should be capable of it, but I haven't tried it out yet.
I'm surprised nobody's tried it yet!
Can you use the normal micro HDMI or do you have to buy the adapter to use HDMI? Lol kinda confused how this works with the new port? Could anyone explain? Thanks
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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I believe that was what he said in the first line..
rtmeikle said:
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
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Thanks for clearing that up!!
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
rictorg said:
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
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According to this demo from CTIA it appears it can, but this is unfinished testing hardware/firmware so it's still not a confirmation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
This doesn't exactly give you an answer with the level of certainty you are looking for but it's a good sign. We should see some end users with feedback on HDMI features on the production phone streaming in any time now that hopefully confirms that it can do this across any application without problems or limitations.
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I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
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hey rtmeikle . I also got the mhl from tmobile. I hooked it up last night to sadly find out that hdmi mirroring is not supported at all. It was all a big hype it appears. Were you able to get it working? I'm hoping that you were so maybe its just my device....if not, then this phone is going back.
Yep, I got mine yesterday and tested it. It works fine.
You have to have the adaptor plugged in to the phone, a charger plugged to the adaptor, and the HDMI cable running from the phone to the TV.
I got full HDMI mirroring which automatically switched to landscape when I tested Netflix and HBO Go.
Rob
interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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Strange. The image of my home screen just popped up on my TV; I didn't have to do anything.
I tested it on the TV in my bedroom, a 3-yr-old Samsung 42" Plasma, nothing fancy.
Maybe tonight I'll test it on my other two TVs and see if it works on all of them.
did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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Yep, I've accepted the OTAs. And I'm using the exact same adaptor. Did you plug power into the adaptor too? I didnt' try without plugging it in, but I've heard that it needs to be plugged in to work.
Ok, i finaly got it to work. It wasn't a problem with the phone but a problem with the tv. I had to change some resolution settings on the tv and presto! Hdmi mirroring on its full glory
Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
Thanks for all the help.
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Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
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This is what I am currently doing. I have hooked up the following.
Mouse: Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 Keyboard
The keyboard works great. I can type in the applications and setup my keys in the emulators just fine (snesoid etc)
Mouse functionality though is different then you may expect. You don't get a mouse cursor, it just "highlights" selections then you "left click" to go forward. According to my research the right mouse button is supposed to "go back" but is not working for me.
I put up a thread asking others for help with it, so if I find an answer I will let you know.
Updating you on what I found out about the mouse.
"Well it looks like the fancy mouse support with a cursor and button functionality was something that was included in CyanogenMod 6.X then removed on CyanogenMod 7.
They then added a patch for version 7. But now apparently it is being included in his latest CyanogenMod.
Regardless, it appears you need root access "
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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the adapter has a USB plug that you use to hook up to a charger, and will charge your phone. Newer TVs are coming that will support charging over HDMI via the MHL adapter, there may be some out but I think will be a standard in 2012 TVs.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sensation-mhl-cable-ac-m490-extmicro-usb-12-pin-to-hdmi-218634/
the HTC one looks lke it includes a HDMI cable, too, but you can see the usb port on each adapter for charging.
I wonder if someone thought to connect their G2 to TV or monitor using microUSB-HDMI adaptor? I couldn't find anything designed specially for G2 (only G2x). I tried with my old SGS3 microUSB-HDMI adaptor and it didn't work. I know some of you guys can send a link for compatible/tested model.
Another concern about PS3 bluetooth joypad as a control for some games on G2. Any chance this combination cam work? I saw only posts about SGS3 and SGN2 combined with these joysticks.
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I wonder if someone thought to connect their G2 to TV or monitor using microUSB-HDMI adaptor? I couldn't find anything designed specially for G2 (only G2x). I tried with my old SGS3 microUSB-HDMI adaptor and it didn't work. I know some of you guys can send a link for compatible/tested model.
Another concern about PS3 bluetooth joypad as a control for some games on G2. Any chance this combination cam work? I saw only posts about SGS3 and SGN2 combined with these joysticks.
"Don't waste your time or time will waste you!" MUSE
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I'd think the normal MHL adapter would work. Samsung changed their MHL adapters so that might be the source of your issues
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I'd think the normal MHL adapter would work. Samsung changed their MHL adapters so that might be the source of your issues
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i bought a slimport cable that i was told would work. it didn't. i was also told mhl wouldn't work. i'm using something i bought in korea called "my dp to hdmi"
and it works. here is a link in korean http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/item.aspx?goodscode=426573926
Lg G2 uses slimport
And yes u can use a ps3 controller om your phone if u are rooted and bye the app sixaxis controller.
OP, you need to use Slimport compatible cable or Miracast receiver (it's more expensive, but wireless). If your TV have DLNA/Miracast feature built-in, you don't need anything more to hook phone up to TV wirelessly
Personally I have ordered this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MYDP...-7-2013-E960-Supports-Full-HD/1389515555.html
I've ordered also iPega PG-9025: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPEGA-PG-9025-Multimedia-Bluetooth-Controller-Black/1611803835.html
If you will have some questions, I'll answer after end of the month, because package will be delivered in this time
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OP, you need to use Slimport compatible cable or Miracast receiver (it's more expensive, but wireless). If your TV have DLNA/Miracast feature built-in, you don't need anything more to hook phone up to TV wirelessly
Personally I have ordered this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MYDP...-7-2013-E960-Supports-Full-HD/1389515555.html
I've ordered also iPega PG-9025: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPEGA-PG-9025-Multimedia-Bluetooth-Controller-Black/1611803835.html
If you will have some questions, I'll answer after end of the month, because package will be delivered in this time
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AliExpress is good but shipping time is ridiculous. Had to whate 39days for a USB cable. Quality is often realy pore but u get what u pay for so win win.
maydayind said:
AliExpress is good but shipping time is ridiculous. Had to whate 39days for a USB cable. Quality is often realy pore but u get what u pay for so win win.
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My Nillkin Fresh (QuickWindow) case was delivered in 14 days, I'm living in Poland. It depends how long it takes in repacking/airport.
I have very simple 37 inch JVC so it doesn't have fancy things like MHL and Miracast. SGS3 worked perfect 1080p with2$ adaptor microUSB to HDMI + USB (for charging). I'll try slimport, thanks for suggestion.
And special thanks for the good news about PS3 controller.
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can someone post here adapter that works from ebay?thanks
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I have very simple 37 inch JVC so it doesn't have fancy things like MHL and Miracast. SGS3 worked perfect 1080p with2$ adaptor microUSB to HDMI + USB (for charging). I'll try slimport, thanks for suggestion.
And special thanks for the good news about PS3 controller.
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MHL is the USB connection on your phone. Basically it's usb to Hdmi
But there are two standards MHL and slimport
Think apple Use a third one.
Something like this should work:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slimport-My...695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e77502af
I bought one that looks exactly like this, I don't have the exact link but this is the same thing. You have to plug in the USB to a wall charger or PC USB port, and you need to be on a stock rom because slimport doesn't work with any of the CM or AOSP based roms I tried.
Using this cable, the G2 actually outputs a pretty good video feed at 1080P. The colors look a bit washed out on my PC monitor but the speed is good and games can run at around 40+ FPS (as opposed to 60 FPS when not using slimport and just running on the phone). I also use the Moga Pro controller, it's Bluetooth and has very little input lag, I don't have a PS3 controller.
I just wish CM would fix slimport, it is a huge feature for me.
I just bought recently G2, came from S3, very good phone Im happy with it and its quiet interesting to connect it to TV and gamepad... I think I will try buy one of those EBAY slimports to test it, but Im thinking about cheap chinese ps3 controller, anyone tried it on this phone for gaming? And is it worth to play games like this? Because alot of games uses alot of touches
Hmm, I have a question, what about to connect Xbox controller via USB to phone ? The external power is demanding ?
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So, basically :
* MHL cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for CM & AOSP based rom )
* SLIMPORT cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for STOCK based rom )
It's correct ?
PYCON said:
So, basically :
* MHL cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for CM & AOSP based rom )
* SLIMPORT cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for STOCK based rom )
It's correct ?
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Would love to know this as well
Strange, on ebay I can see always cable with "MHL" and "SLIMPORT", both...
Like this :
http://www.ebay.it/itm/CABLE-ADAPTA...1?pt=ES_Teléfonos_móviles&hash=item540ec8021f
G2
I tried using a star tech slimport adapter to be able to view my g2 on my TV but it doesn't work. The TV is a LG from 2005. Is the TV too old?
PYCON said:
So, basically :
* MHL cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for CM & AOSP based rom )
* SLIMPORT cable => to connect USB port of LG G2 to HDMI of the TV ( only for STOCK based rom )
It's correct ?
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Nope. G2 uses Slimport, not MHL. It's a hardware difference (basically, DisplayPort vs HDMI), even if the adapter looks similar.
LG G2
Does anyone know where to buy a good quality Slimport adapter from? I have an official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable but unfortunately LG phones don't support MHL MHL supports 4K output and Slimport doesn't. Really don't know why they don't go with MHL especially since the g3 has a 2K screen. Slimport can not output any higher than 1080p... makes the 4K video recording capability useless on the g3. I also wonder how the phones 2k screen output will look on 1080p tvs
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Does anyone know where to buy a good quality Slimport adapter from? I have an official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable but unfortunately LG phones don't support MHL MHL supports 4K output and Slimport doesn't. Really don't know why they don't go with MHL especially since the g3 has a 2K screen. Slimport can not output any higher than 1080p... makes the 4K video recording capability useless on the g3. I also wonder how the phones 2k screen output will look on 1080p tvs
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You need a mhl 3.0 for this phone like the note 3
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Epix4G said:
You need a mhl 3.0 for this phone like the note 3
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This phone doesn't support MHL 3.0 like the z2. It uses Slimport which is a different technology. MHL adapters won't work with this phone.
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Thank you for your query regarding your LG G3.
I have read through your email and I can confirm that you can output 4K from your G3 to your 4K TV using a MHL 3.0 adapter connected from the phone to your TV.
Depending on the 4K TV you have this may be automatically output to 4K or you may need to change the resolution settings to show a 4K video.
I hope my email has answered your query and assisted you today; I would really appreciate your feedback. Please help us to improve our customer service by completing the short survey after this email.
Thank you in advance.
Kind regards
Dean
LG Electronics UK Help desk
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This is the email I received from LG. But clove have said the phone uses Slimport in their review and they listed it as one of the phones downside. But Engadget said it uses MHL. I'm pretty sure it's Slimport as clove review shows them using it and the Slimport official website says lg g3 support Slimport. http://us.slimportconnect.com/slimport-supported-devices/
But it's not so bad as Slimport has been updated to support 4k.
ziggazee said:
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G3.
I have read through your email and I can confirm that you can output 4K from your G3 to your 4K TV using a MHL 3.0 adapter connected from the phone to your TV.
Depending on the 4K TV you have this may be automatically output to 4K or you may need to change the resolution settings to show a 4K video.
I hope my email has answered your query and assisted you today; I would really appreciate your feedback. Please help us to improve our customer service by completing the short survey after this email.
Thank you in advance.
Kind regards
Dean
LG Electronics UK Help desk
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This is the email I received from LG. But clove have said the phone uses Slimport in their review and they listed it as one of the phones downside. But Engadget said it uses MHL. I'm pretty sure it's Slimport as clove review shows them using it and the Slimport official website says lg g3 support Slimport. http://us.slimportconnect.com/slimport-supported-devices/
But it's not so bad as Slimport has been updated to support 4k.
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I have seen both mhl and slimport... I think it's slimport also but don't know ...A couple of the reviews stated multiple TV out .... But I know the g pro g2 flex use slimport
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Epix4G said:
I have seen both mhl and slimport... I think it's slimport also but don't know ...A couple of the reviews stated multiple TV out .... But I know the g pro g2 flex use slimport
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As a SlimPort spokesperson (and a new xda member), I can help to clarify the video output features for the G3. LG switched from MHL to SlimPort with the launch of the Nexus 4 in November 2012. All subsequent LG mobile devices are SlimPort-enabled. The G3 can shoot 4K videos. However, LG chose to not support the 4K output direct to the TV. The G3 will output full bandwidth 1080p video via the SlimPort/HDMI dongle. When connected to a 4K TV, the TV will detect the 1080p signal and properly scale it to 4K. To view the 4K content, the video must be transferred via USB to a media player that supports 4K. FYI – there are no devices that support both MHL and SlimPort.
Current certified SlimPort dongles on the market work with any SlimPort enabled phones. As mentioned, you can check with the SlimPort web site to get a current list of devices that support the format and of locations to order dongles. Last February, the SlimPort 4K receiver chip (used in the dongles), ANX7738, was introduced and you should see 4K dongle products on the market later this year.
So it is confirmed the g3 won't work on the MHL 3.0 despite the LG staff confirmed that in the email?
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claud0902 said:
So it is confirmed the g3 won't work on the MHL 3.0 despite the LG staff confirmed that in the email?
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Does seem odd that they said it supports 4k mhl, when the newer lg flagship phones claim to have ditched mhl in favor of slimport, maybe they know something we dont know, but i reckon it was a misunderstanding only. If it does support Mhl 3.0, this implies that the lg flagship series phones support usb 3.0, which we all know it doesnt simply because it does not have the 11 pin micro usb mhl connector, like samsung.
But interestingly enough, I do know that lg is considering usb 3.0 for g2 g3 and flex, simply because they actually HAVE added a NEW proprietary 11pin micro usb 3.0 port on all of these phones (take a look, you will see 3 extra pins on each side of the standard microusb tongue, deeper inside the connector, these are usb 3.0 lines!). Although this new connector is not compatible with mhl 3.0 connector, which implies it will likely support a different video out protocol like slimport 4k or 3.0 if you will.
Slimport 4k requires a higher bandwidth interface like usb 3.0, and since recent lg schematic drawings prove that they have wired up the new connector to handle usb 3.0, then once someone makes the 4k adapter and a mating 11 pin connector, we will then hopefully see all these phones capable of supporting 4k soon, in addition to usb 3.0 fast charging, and maybe even support usb 3.0 OTG interface!
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Does seem odd that they said it supports 4k mhl, when the newer lg flagship phones claim to have ditched mhl in favor of slimport, maybe they know something we dont know, but i reckon it was a misunderstanding only. If it does support Mhl 3.0, this implies that the lg flagship series phones support usb 3.0, which we all know it doesnt simply because it does not have the 11 pin micro usb mhl connector, like samsung.
But interestingly enough, I do know that lg is considering usb 3.0 for g2 g3 and flex, simply because they actually HAVE added a NEW proprietary 11pin micro usb 3.0 port on all of these phones (take a look, you will see 3 extra pins on each side of the standard microusb tongue, deeper inside the connector, these are usb 3.0 lines!). Although this new connector is not compatible with mhl 3.0 connector, which implies it will likely support a different video out protocol like slimport 4k or 3.0 if you will.
Slimport 4k requires a higher bandwidth interface like usb 3.0, and since recent lg schematic drawings prove that they have wired up the new connector to handle usb 3.0, then once someone makes the 4k adapter and a mating 11 pin connector, we will then hopefully see all these phones capable of supporting 4k soon, in addition to usb 3.0 fast charging, and maybe even support usb 3.0 OTG interface!
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I had initially asked them if to confirm whether it uses MHL or Slimport and then got the email stating it supports MHL. I then replied requesting clarification as the official Slimport website has listed the lg g3 as a supported device and have not received a reply. Also the Xperia z2 has mhl 3.0 but as far as I'm aware it uses usb 2.0?
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As a SlimPort spokesperson (and a new xda member), I can help to clarify the video output features for the G3. LG switched from MHL to SlimPort with the launch of the Nexus 4 in November 2012. All subsequent LG mobile devices are SlimPort-enabled. The G3 can shoot 4K videos. However, LG chose to not support the 4K output direct to the TV. The G3 will output full bandwidth 1080p video via the SlimPort/HDMI dongle. When connected to a 4K TV, the TV will detect the 1080p signal and properly scale it to 4K. To view the 4K content, the video must be transferred via USB to a media player that supports 4K. FYI – there are no devices that support both MHL and SlimPort.
Current certified SlimPort dongles on the market work with any SlimPort enabled phones. As mentioned, you can check with the SlimPort web site to get a current list of devices that support the format and of locations to order dongles. Last February, the SlimPort 4K receiver chip (used in the dongles), ANX7738, was introduced and you should see 4K dongle products on the market later this year.
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Thank you for clarifying that. As you have stated that slimport 4k adapters will be released some time this year, can you confirm if the g3 will support these and be able to output in 4k rather than upscale?
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I don't care about 4k output actually. What I care is the support of use otg and screen output simultaneously. That's why mhl is more attractive than slimport atm. Would be disappointed if at the end G3 doesn't support mhl3.0.
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ziggazee said:
Thank you for clarifying that. As you have stated that slimport 4k adapters will be released some time this year, can you confirm if the g3 will support these and be able to output in 4k rather than upscale?
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The new dongles will work on the G3, however, 4K output is not supported by the G3 circuitry so the output would still be high bitrate 1080p. A 4K TV would detect the 1080p signal and scale it to 4K. Best to check with LG on their product plans for 4K support in the future.
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I don't care about 4k output actually. What I care is the support of use otg and screen output simultaneously. That's why mhl is more attractive than slimport atm. Would be disappointed if at the end G3 doesn't support mhl3.0.
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It's confirmed the g3 supports slimport and not mhl. Zumashark is a spokesperson for Slimport and it's also listed as a supported device on the Slimport website. Although I also would have preferred mhl 3.0 as I have a 4K TV with mhl built in, which would have allowed me to control the phone using the TV remote when plugged into the TV and it would have charged the phone at the same time. 4K output was something I really wanted.
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zumashark said:
As a SlimPort spokesperson (and a new xda member), I can help to clarify the video output features for the G3. LG switched from MHL to SlimPort with the launch of the Nexus 4 in November 2012. All subsequent LG mobile devices are SlimPort-enabled. The G3 can shoot 4K videos. However, LG chose to not support the 4K output direct to the TV. The G3 will output full bandwidth 1080p video via the SlimPort/HDMI dongle. When connected to a 4K TV, the TV will detect the 1080p signal and properly scale it to 4K. To view the 4K content, the video must be transferred via USB to a media player that supports 4K. FYI – there are no devices that support both MHL and SlimPort.
Current certified SlimPort dongles on the market work with any SlimPort enabled phones. As mentioned, you can check with the SlimPort web site to get a current list of devices that support the format and of locations to order dongles. Last February, the SlimPort 4K receiver chip (used in the dongles), ANX7738, was introduced and you should see 4K dongle products on the market later this year.
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Just in case anyone else is looking around for info like this, as I am.. I found this after i read the above comments.
The MHL consortium announced a 3.0 spec on Tuesday, upping Mobile High Link's resolution support from 1080p up to 4K at 30 frames per second. Future Android phones and other devices that support the new spec will be able to push video at 3840x2160 while drawing up to 10 watts of charging power; they'll also support 7.1 surround sound audio and the HDCP 2.2 content protection standard. Of course, the 3.0 spec is mostly futureproofing, since 4K TVs are just beginning to show up in stores and homes.
MHL has found its way into more than 200 products at this point, with millions of devices on the market. SlimPort, by comparison, is available in only a few: Google's Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, the LG Optimus G Pro, a Fujitsu Windows 8 tablet and the ASUS PadFone Infinity. Last year Anandtech did a good job of summarizing what makes SlimPort different from MHL:
"SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort.
What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate."
ziggazee said:
Does anyone know where to buy a good quality Slimport adapter from? I have an official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable but unfortunately LG phones don't support MHL MHL supports 4K output and Slimport doesn't. Really don't know why they don't go with MHL especially since the g3 has a 2K screen. Slimport can not output any higher than 1080p... makes the 4K video recording capability useless on the g3. I also wonder how the phones 2k screen output will look on 1080p tvs
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it's not all LG phones that don't support MHL. My LG Nitro HD uses MHL but i'm unhappy to see that i need to buy another adapter for my G3
Hi Guys,
Well, I have to sadly report that, according to my experience, the LG G3 supports NEITHER SlimPort nor MHL.
I have a SlimPort adapter and it works really well with my LG GPad 8.3 V500 (rooted + custom ROM called CandyKAT that I compiled myself). I just plug it in and... there it goes : display duplicated on my TV.
I also have an MHL Adapter. If I use that with my Sony XPeria Z2 (rooted, stock ROM) I just plug it in and... voilà ! Display duplicated on my TV.
I try to use each one of them with my LG G3 (rooted ; stock ROM) : I either have : 1°) nothing happens AT ALL ; 2°) when I'm lucky, I get an image for 5 seconds and then "snow" on my TV ; image then comes back... and then snow and so on...
Nothing the like on the LG GPad V500 !!!
I have this LG G3 for about 12 hours... and I probably will NOT keep for more than that. Flawless MHL or SlimPort support is a MUST HAVE for me...
I just despise manufacturers claiming things that are simply NOT TRUE !
Unless of course SlimPort is supported only with a custom ROM installed !
Maybe there's an option that should be turned on to let the G3 work with either MHL or SlimPort... but I don't know which that would be
Regards.
I have a slimport adapter for my G3 on STOCK rom and kernel, and have NO issues whatsoever. There is no support or 'switch' for MHL on the G3 because the video out is hardware based, it's either SlimPort or MHL.
IMO, SlimPort is more promising and has more versatility than MHL:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2012/11/02/what-is-slimport/
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/11/07/mhl-v-slimportwhat-is-the-difference/
I too have no problems with a cheap slimport adapter and my Samsung Smart TV 2014 series, the adapter only needs to be powered to work.
To be honest, the G3 also connects perfectly via Miracast protocol to the same Smart TV, so in this situation there should be no need of an adapter.
Hi 2kool4u and missionimpossible,
Thanks for your reply...
After reading your posts about making a LG G3 work seamlessly with a SlimPort adapter, I decided to order a new one on Amazon.
Maybe my adapter was faulty ? It may be, even though I don't think so : if I use this adapter with my LG GPad, it works perfectly and I have a stable image...
All I can tell is that I used this adapter powered and unpowered... same result
Anyways, Amazon offers this really nice ability to return products, so I'll have the opportunity to test it in depth... and I'll report as soon as it will be done
Regards.
This is what I bought from Amazon.
To work it has to be powered.
Has anyone used an MHL adapter to hook their LG to a hdtv? I have a samsung mhl 2.0, but the it doesn't fit in the LG
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Has anyone used an MHL adapter to hook their LG to a hdtv? I have a samsung mhl 2.0, but the it doesn't fit in the LG
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The LG G3 doesn't use MHL they use another adapter called slimport. I don't know the technical differences, but I know they are not inter-changeable.
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Has anyone used an MHL adapter to hook their LG to a hdtv? I have a samsung mhl 2.0, but the it doesn't fit in the LG
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Samsung's MHL adapters don't usually work for other devices. I bought what turned out to be a Samsung only cable a while back, when I plugged it into my HTC DNA it would not fit. I ended up grinding down the connector so I could get it plugged in and it still didn't work. Traded it to my boss for a regular MHL cable and that worked fine. I have not tried it in my G3 however, with the Chromecast and Miracast options I just haven't needed to.
that's ridiculous, there should be a universal mhl adapter. The reason I want one is so I could play emulators that are on the phone. If I did that wirelessly with miracast and chromecast, I get bad latency issues
ucpro said:
that's ridiculous, there should be a universal mhl adapter. The reason I want one is so I could play emulators that are on the phone. If I did that wirelessly with miracast and chromecast, I get bad latency issues
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I know it's definitely ridiculous, Samsung is getting just as bad as Apple about proprietary connections. If I get a chance when I get home I will try the adapter I have for my HTC and see if it works. I have a WD TV Live box that supports Miracast and it's terrible, but the Chromecast seems to work a lot better. I can see latency being and issue with games for sure though.
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I know it's definitely ridiculous, Samsung is getting just as bad as Apple about proprietary connections. If I get a chance when I get home I will try the adapter I have for my HTC and see if it works. I have a WD TV Live box that supports Miracast and it's terrible, but the Chromecast seems to work a lot better. I can see latency being and issue with games for sure though.
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let me know. i'm going to tigerdirect today to see if they have anything
This may help
http://us.slimportconnect.com/slimport-supported-devices/
http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/
robertwhitten87 said:
This may help
http://us.slimportconnect.com/slimport-supported-devices/
http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/
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interesting, I may go ahead and pick one up knowing that it's compatible with more than just my device.
Just curious if the G5 supports wired-display-out since the G5 still has features that competitors have dropped. Supposedly the G4 still had it despite competitors giving up on it, but USB Type C supports display, so USB Type-C to HDMI converters and adapters are a thing.
Just curious if G5 kept wired display-out since the G5 also kept the removable battery and IR blaster.
I too am curious about this. I've been hoping that since the G5 is able to send 3D video to the 360 VR that it would also support standard hdmi as well, but that may or may not be the case.
It bugs me that phones seem to be dropping wired video out options in favor of wireless/chromecast. I mean I like the chromecast and all, but I'd still like the option of a wired dock - Windows phones with Continuum sound pretty cool - and I'm still hopeful we'll be able to do something similar with Ubuntu on our phones someday, but the disappearance of wired options for video out concerns me in this regard. I know wireless is the future, but I don't like losing wired as a fallback option.
~Troop
I'd love to know this as well. I have a Pico-projector that I use when camping and I'd prefer not to have to take a tablet along.
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I don't get mine until Friday (uk) but it seems it does :
( I can't post links )search YouTube for "Coms USB C to HDMI LG G5"
No idea what he is saying though!
I believe the VR unit connects thru it too, so as that is 2 screens, it makes sense.
Can't find many (any?) Usb-c to HDMI adapters. Would a micro-usb adapter do with a cheap microusb-c converter?
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I don't get mine until Friday (uk) but it seems it does :
( I can't post links )search YouTube for "Coms USB C to HDMI LG G5"
No idea what he is saying though!
I believe the VR unit connects thru it too, so as that is 2 screens, it makes sense.
Can't find many (any?) Usb-c to HDMI adapters. Would a micro-usb adapter do with a cheap microusb-c converter?
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Looks like it does, but there's at least some output lag; it's not perfectly in-sync between phone and HDMI tv. That will be a little disappointing.
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I'd love to know this as well. I have a Pico-projector that I use when camping and I'd prefer not to have to take a tablet along.
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Yes I have one and it works perfect 4 HDMI out to your TV set the one I bought was the Apple dongle for the HDMI out from their laptops and again it works perfect very pleased with the performance
I tried a slimport adapter/lead, but it only had a microusb connector so I tried a microusb-usb c converter. No luck
Just ordered an apple type lead as suggested above so will see how that goes
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This would be especially useful for cord cutters if you can still charge the phone while it was connected. Or if someone can find a way to give the G5 qi charging without using the type c port
Ok y'all seem to know more about this stuff so.. Could someone link me to what I need to hook my G5 to my TV
Something like this ?
CableCreation Gold USB 3.1 Type C (USB-C) to HDMI Adapter (DP Alt Mode) for Apple The New Macbook/ Chromebook Pixel/Dell XPS 13/Yoga 900/Asus Zen AIO/Lumia 950/950XL,White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123PJ9BK/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_apfexbRFRV0YM
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I use a device called a netgear ptv 3000. It is used as a Mira cast device. Well, it used to be called Mira cast on phones. Now it's called screen sharing. I think it's actually been called screen sharing since KitKat or lollipop. Either way, I've used this with a Nexus 4, Nexus 5, g2, note 5, and the g5. The latency is bad on the note 5, but almost prefect with the other phones. It will display anything you have on your phone to the TV wirelessly. You just plug it in to the HDMI and a power outlet, activate screen sharing on the G5 and you're good to go. A negative side is that you can't put your phone to sleep so it could kill the battery faster. A way to prolong the battery is by putting the brightness all the way down on the screen of the phone. It won't effect the brightness on the TV. One last thing, when you first get the ptv3000. Be sure to update the device before you try and use it or it won't work. The udate is necessary. There's instructions on how to do update in the box. I got mine for around $40 a couple years back. Hope this helps. Peace.
kresk said:
I use a device called a netgear ptv 3000. It is used as a Mira cast device. Well, it used to be called Mira cast on phones. Now it's called screen sharing. I think it's actually been called screen sharing since KitKat or lollipop. Either way, I've used this with a Nexus 4, Nexus 5, g2, note 5, and the g5. The latency is bad on the note 5, but almost prefect with the other phones. It will display anything you have on your phone to the TV wirelessly. You just plug it in to the HDMI and a power outlet, activate screen sharing on the G5 and you're good to go. A negative side is that you can't put your phone to sleep so it could kill the battery faster. A way to prolong the battery is by putting the brightness all the way down on the screen of the phone. It won't effect the brightness on the TV. One last thing, when you first get the ptv3000. Be sure to update the device before you try and use it or it won't work. The udate is necessary. There's instructions on how to do update in the box. I got mine for around $40 a couple years back. Hope this helps. Peace.
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to be honest.. chromecast is doing extremely well so far on my G5.
this thread is about physical connection to the tv / beamer though.
My bad. Just throwing out an idea.. Nevertheless, the netgear is nice because you don't need Wi-Fi like Chromecast to use it and it mirrors everything..
kresk said:
My bad. Just throwing out an idea.. Nevertheless, the netgear is nice because you don't need Wi-Fi like Chromecast to use it and it mirrors everything..
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Nah I think it was on point. Does the same thing and bypasses the need for rigging a cable.
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Can anyone tell me if this would work between my g5 and tv. I have both a usb and HDMI on my tv...
http://m.gearbest.com/cables-connec...Xd2EGzXXLlu10LPU_YpZnkql8YZvUSMToERoC3jnw_wcB
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djxn40 said:
Can anyone tell me if this would work between my g5 and tv. I have both a usb and HDMI on my tv...
http://m.gearbest.com/cables-connec...Xd2EGzXXLlu10LPU_YpZnkql8YZvUSMToERoC3jnw_wcB
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Update. Well I ordered one from Amazon so I guess we'll see
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Update. Well I ordered one from Amazon so I guess we'll see
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I'm not sure the G5 does mhl.. let us know tho please! Good luck
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in fact,that VR device gets its video stream just via that type-c...no problem with that,what a waste if LG give it a type c but only functioning like a microusb port.
I can confirm too that the apple macbookair lead works. USB c to HDMI.
Thanks for suggesting it. Now I just need to find a way of powering/charging it whilst using the lead
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Official adapter for LG G5:
SlimPort 4K HDMI adapter (USB-C)
Model: SP7101
Was there any update on any of your tests?