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why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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To get certain things that stock ROMS don't have. Like: Speed, not loaded with Carrier crap.
The ROM post should have info about what is included and what isn't.
Some are made to have more RAM some are made to run Smoother.
Wiki.
I might be wrong, but that is what I have learned overtime.
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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Who is your carrier?
Good Question
I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
scrosler said:
Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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I cant do a video, lack the ability, hehehe... I can however tell you this:
It looks and actis identical to the Stock ROM from VZW except is was built on a new CE OS. Its considerably snapier than the stock ROM in everything from boot up to touchflo scrolling.
Its 99.99% stock. The only differnece is the speed, IE 6, ICS, and Net CF 3.5 is all cooked in. It, unlike all other custom ROM's, has all stock VZW apps and the VZW touchFlow. Its a straight rip from a stock VZW leaked ROM. The details ont he ROM and the kitchen used are in the new thread.
Its just to easy to do.
Download file A, run it. Download file B, run it. Its not that much harder in all honesty.
pierhogunn said:
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
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This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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cforster said:
This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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Awesome Link!!! I just wish they had this same thing for the VZW Version!
Another stupid question...
Well I think this would be the appropriate thread to ask this.
I was wondering if there was any way to put 2 today screens into one instead of having to switch. Basically I am wanting a Touch Flo today screen at the top and the bottom half I would like to have a WinMo today screen with the two quick buttons at the bottom. Is this possible or am I just wanting too much? It seems like the themes for the Touch Flo look much better and I LOVE the black themes.
Any info. would be much appreciated!
Hi guys.
I would like to flash my first rom but no idea which one to do!
I have a TP on Vodafone.
I use Mobile Shell 3 and would still like to use that after.
What would you reccomend for a first time Rom?
Any suggestions would be a big help.
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Hi guys.
I would like to flash my first rom but no idea which one to do!
I have a TP on Vodafone.
I use Mobile Shell 3 and would still like to use that after.
What would you reccomend for a first time Rom?
Any suggestions would be a big help.
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Ok before This gets closed and it will trust me. The roms are a personal choice. The best advise I can give you is to do a search and see if any of them have issues with SPB. I dont use it but I would guess a manilla free rom might serve you sense it has extra MEM
Agree with all said. There are a lot of good ROMs out there so a lot comes down to personal choice. Read through the ROM threads and look at what is happening for each. A lot of folks have MS3 here and if any of the ROMs are having issues, it will be in the threads. I use MS3 and TF3D with TFDetacher because I like both MS3 and TF3D for different reasons. The threads will let you know about the issues, stability, whether it's pushing a technology (i.e. new MS shaky build) etc.
There are ROMs that come fully equipped with lots of preloaded apps in the ROM and there are some that come as bare as you can get with everything in between. There are some great personalizations that are done by the folks here that look just amazing.
Sorry there's no easy answer, but I think once you start flashing different ROMs you'll get the chance to really see what matches your needs / desires.
Good Luck.... And have fun
*** I posted this in the HD2 TMo US forums, but I think it will be a quicker reply here ***
So, I have had my HD2 for a few days now (5), and I am thinking of flashing a custom ROM this morning. Here is what I am curious about...
Question 1: Will the stock flip clock/weather be replaced? I am, for some reason, a HUGE fan of the stock flip clock and the weather animations (sun rays, lightning, etc), and I don't want to loose that. Is it included with most cooked ROMs, or would I lose it? I know there are different versions, but I really like the look of the stock one, and it's size, format, etc.
Question 2: I have added a number of programs and registry tweaks since I picked it up last week. From my experience flashing Android ROMs, I am fairly sure I will loose all the apps I installed, but that's no biggie. What about all the registry tweaks to speed up the device though? Are those included in most cooked ROMs, or will I have to do them again... or, will I even need them with fast ROMs? There was one to raise the DPP from 16 -> 24, which I liked a lot.
Question 3: What is the fastest and most inclusive ROM for a US-TMo HD2? I know that aesthetics are subjective, but what about pure performance, and the number of tweaks and additions added? Especially ROMs that already include apps like CHT and BsB, and maybe Reg Editors?
Also, I know I need to do HSPL first, but do I do that while the stock ROM is in place? Will that wipe the ROM, or will I do the HSPL then boot normally into my stock ROM?
I know that's a lot to ask, but I would REALLY appreciate the help. I come from modding Android phones and am new to WM6.5+, so while I am constantly reading to learn, there is a LOT to learn, so I want to make sure I am getting into something I will be happy with, rather than regret...
Thanks !!!
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*** I posted this in the HD2 TMo US forums, but I think it will be a quicker reply here ***
So, I have had my HD2 for a few days now (5), and I am thinking of flashing a custom ROM this morning. Here is what I am curious about...
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Probably shouldn't double post this
Question 1: Will the stock flip clock/weather be replaced? I am, for some reason, a HUGE fan of the stock flip clock and the weather animations (sun rays, lightning, etc), and I don't want to loose that. Is it included with most cooked ROMs, or would I lose it? I know there are different versions, but I really like the look of the stock one, and it's size, format, etc.
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Most ROM's have Sense interface, this will give you the flip clock, but there are other mods, like Cookie and MaxSense, that take it up to the next level
Question 2: I have added a number of programs and registry tweaks since I picked it up last week. From my experience flashing Android ROMs, I am fairly sure I will loose all the apps I installed, but that's no biggie. What about all the registry tweaks to speed up the device though? Are those included in most cooked ROMs, or will I have to do them again... or, will I even need them with fast ROMs? There was one to raise the DPP from 16 -> 24, which I liked a lot.
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When you flash a new ROM, you phone is wiped. However, most roms' contain performance tweaks already, and have some apps installed. Every ROM is differant, you need to see what each offers.
Question 3: What is the fastest and most inclusive ROM for a US-TMo HD2? I know that aesthetics are subjective, but what about pure performance, and the number of tweaks and additions added? Especially ROMs that already include apps like CHT and BsB, and maybe Reg Editors?
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I recomend Energy ROM the 21XXX Series. It works fine on T-Mobile, but read teh first few posts, to get an idea of whats included. You will also want to do a task 29 before flashing the ROM. Read the stick thread in this forum, for a link to the task29 thread. Also read teh last 10 pages of the NRG thread, on how best to flash your phone. You will need to HSPL the phone, and you may (but not required) want to change your radio. Again read the thread for details.
Also, I know I need to do HSPL first, but do I do that while the stock ROM is in place? Will that wipe the ROM, or will I do the HSPL then boot normally into my stock ROM?
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HSPL will not wipe your phone, and needs to be done prior to flashing a custom ROM
I know that's a lot to ask, but I would REALLY appreciate the help. I come from modding Android phones and am new to WM6.5+, so while I am constantly reading to learn, there is a LOT to learn, so I want to make sure I am getting into something I will be happy with, rather than regret...
Thanks !!!
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You will want to read, read and read before asking more questions, as many questions you have have been asked and answered many times. I suggest you read the first few posts in a rom thread, a few times, if not sure, and the last 10-20 pages, to get an idea of what has changed, or issues people have. And, only after reading (The FAQ Section is important) ask your questions, if not answered. Again, NRG offers many versions, so give them a try, you will be happy!
I should add, there is a post floating around that has the t-mobile apps (Visual voice mail is probably the only one you need) that you can install onto any NRG build. NRG also cooks up a TMOUS specific build, but that has some added bloatware, and is often updated last.
Please read the Sticky/ tutorials laying around this forum.
In regard to stuffs that you fancy on th estock ROMs (weather animation, etc), please go to the cooked ROM's page and ask people around, or even the chef, they'll answer you.
Please go to CleanEX ROM's page HERE, and try a ROM that suits your application. Well, it suits me.
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I have recently got into upgrading my ROM into custom ones, browsing the correct forum and I have found many which I like.
But nearly all of them appear to be for the 6.5x version (with the start button on the bottom left) and I have the original with the start button at the top.
Can I use those ROMs? Is there anybody still working on the old 6.5 ROMs?
Cheers
Ghost
Yes you can use these ROMs and yes there are still ROMs out there being made with the older more stable 6.5.
I suggest you start reading some of the sticky threads in the ROM section because there is plenty more you need to know before flashing.
Sorry, I should have made myself much clearer.
I have already installed one and have read as many stickies and posts as I can handle lol.
I have adjusted the title to suit.
What will happen if I install the ROMs made for the 6.5x?
Cheers
Oh, and appreciate the reply
Then you'll be running 6.5x.
You can run either, one is just more stable then the other. You do realize that a ROM is the entire OS right? It's not that it's just changing a few things on your current phones OS and that a ROM is built for a particular OS that is already on your phone. You are wiping it clean with a new OS each time you flash.
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Sorry, I should have made myself much clearer.
I have already installed one and have read as many stickies and posts as I can handle lol.
I have adjusted the title to suit.
What will happen if I install the ROMs made for the 6.5x?
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Start button on top=6.5
Start button on bottom (and little unstable)=6.5.X
Wil Badger said:
You do realize that a ROM is the entire OS right? It's not that it's just changing a few things on your current phones OS and that a ROM is built for a particular OS that is already on your phone. You are wiping it clean with a new OS each time you flash.
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Cheers,
Yeah I am aware this is the case, slightly hazey, but aware....ha. Mostly in part to the knowledge on the forum. That is the main reason I asked the question, as I wanted to find the one that seems to have the options that best suite me and there seemed to be many working on the 6.5x, for which I was not entirely clear.
You gotta love n0obs!
Thanks for the replies.
It's all good.......don't mean to come off as an ass either so sorry if I did. Hope you find what you need worst case you just flash to another ROM and give it a whirl.
Try giving NRG's ROMs a try he has both styles.
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* A 21911 Build which is the most reliable and bug free release. It has the Start menu button at the top left corner. This build uses the same stock system that came with your device. This is usually the fastest and most stable build, but it's also the least fancy
* A 23569 Build that's the latest in Microsoft's development with the Start menu button at the bottom left corner and big softkeys, making it all very "finger friendly". These builds are not as perfect, but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft. Most people choose this build... Why else would you install a custom ROM ? Although if you want to be cautious, start with the 21911 build first.
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Wil Badger said:
It's all good.......don't mean to come off as an ass either so sorry if I did.
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Not a problem, you didnt. I would understand as it sounded like a completely pointless question until explain (my bad).
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Try giving NRG's ROMs a try he has both styles.
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Looks perfect for what I am after and will give a base to play with, much appreciated. Will get flashing as soon as I can.
I browsed through the development section and there is SO MUCH STUFF THERE. :/
Even if I read it all I would still not really get a good answer to my question:
What are the most popular, consistently maintained and stable ROM's out there that aren't heavily themed (I like AOSP or close, not MIUI)?
I've used CyanogenMod on my Nexus but it's still in experimental phase for SG2 and I don't really want to start off my new uberphone with broken stuff.
So far from what I've gathered is that Villainrom is at least consistently maintained, but their website is almost devoid of any information in regards to looks and features.
Batista70(?) also sounds like a relatively popular choice?
I realize this sounds like a completely idiotic question from someone that's too lazy to read, but honestly to answer this question you can't just read for a few hours, you need to have been around the community for a longer time to get the feel of everything.
bjarnia said:
I browsed through the development section and there is SO MUCH STUFF THERE. :/
Even if I read it all I would still not really get a good answer to my question:
What are the most popular, consistently maintained and stable ROM's out there that aren't heavily themed (I like AOSP or close, not MIUI)?
I've used CyanogenMod on my Nexus but it's still in experimental phase for SG2 and I don't really want to start off my new uberphone with broken stuff.
So far from what I've gathered is that Villainrom is at least consistently maintained, but their website is almost devoid of any information in regards to looks and features.
Batista70(?) also sounds like a relatively popular choice?
I realize this sounds like a completely idiotic question from someone that's too lazy to read, but honestly to answer this question you can't just read for a few hours, you need to have been around the community for a longer time to get the feel of everything.
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You are correct if you want an honest opinion look yourself try them their are a billion users asking the same question with the same answer their is no best rom .
Why not start with the simplest rom that you understand what's on it and how to flash it .
Then work your way through others .
jje
Atm, i think the best roms (no one over the other, they all good the same)
Batista70 Foxhoud 2.0
Villainrom 3.0
Leomar 2.7
those are the roms i personally tested, and looks like also the most "used" by the community.
Im sorry if i didnt listed someone else rom, it's only because i didnt tested personally.
All the 3 are KI3 (2.3.5) based, so they may have few bugs/instability since 2.3.5 is less than 1 week old.
For the KH3 (2.3.4) every rom is very stable and works fine, i personally tested:
Cognition 1.5.1
Lite'ning 6.1
Checkrom v3
If you want a not perfect (few bugs) but totally different rom, i suggest you to try gangsterjoop Miui 1.9.23 or Galnet Miui 1.9.23
rembrandtlnx said:
those are the roms i personally tested, and looks like also the most "used" by the community.
Im sorry if i didnt listed someone else rom, it's only because i didnt tested personally.
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I know my english sux sorry
rembrandtlnx said:
I know my english sux sorry
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That was actually more a roll of the eyes to this type of question. It gets answers like yours (no offence meant) where people just tell you what they use. Not many people have done extensive testing of every single available ROM, but people still keep asking these lame questions.
Also 'best' is very personal, unless one gives certain criteria.
I agree I'm new here and the selection is daunting. I've HAD,
HTC Tattoo
HTC Desire
ZTE Blade
Moto Defy
HTC HD2
Sony X10
This phones section seems even bigger than the HD2 forum!
Ephumuris
the best rom out there with regarding battery life and looks is..................
the one that will suit your needs and that YOU have to find out and experiment buddy.
its all good for us to tell you which one is good but unless you dont try for yourself you wont know..
but if you want a choice i recommend VillainRom or Batista two that i use back and forth or even CheckRom
but whatever you do make sure you read through each roms thread and take it from there...happy flashing