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Ok, I am looking at an online Android/iPhone app builder. They either offer the option to build one for free with unlimited downloads or you can pay yearly with different tiers for different download limits. The difference being that the free one has ads.
Anyways, when asked about just creating the app with their site, then hosting it on your own server and having everyone download it from there instead of paying the yearly fees, the site owner made this statement.
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
For the record, I'm just looking to develop an app to play my Shoutcast Streaming audio station. I make no profit on the station, so have no capital to spend over $1K a year to have an Android and iPhone app. I mainly want to give it to my friends, and make it available to anyone who visits my Website. I really like the design that I did with this site, and am willing to pay something for it, just not worth $1K./year....
Anybody?
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Thank you for the reply.
I actually do have the SDK installed, and am looking into what it takes to make my own app. But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
You do need to know those two languages.
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But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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Yes, it's kind of like Appinventor, all visual, just assemble the parts and stuff.
It's nice, just kinda pricey. I once posted the job on freelancer.com and got offers for about as much as this company is asking, and with freelancer I would have owned the app afterwards.
But, again, it's kinda hard to foot the bill when it's a non profit app.
Ok, I'm off to learn XML and Java.......
Oh, almost forgot.... the original questions...
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
any ideas anyone?
I think he means every time Google releases an update to Android (updated OS, not new device). So, for example, you build your app to run on Jelly Bean. But when Key Lime Pie comes out, your app may not work as expected on those devices running KLP. Then, you'd have to pay them to recompile your app with updated binaries, or risk losing market share.
If your app is really simple and would run fine on Android 2.2 and up, then that "purchase new binary" thing is not applicable.
But, hell, if you're willing to learn XML & Java... go for it!
Hello,
I am a total novice. However, I'd like to develop a simple timecard app for Android, specifically targeted like the apps below.
http://www.appato.com/edward-pereira/wrap-time-time-card-for-film-crews/
http://www.crewtimecard.com/
These only exist for Apple products, though. What is the easiest, most straight-forward (Windows-based) software for creating such an app? I've heard of something called Eclipse...? Or there's some Google thing?
Thanks!
You need eclipse ide and android adt plugin for exclipse to code for android.Also you need android sdk for the api's.Googling "how to setup eclipse for android development" will give instructions for those from android developers website
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thanks vijai2011. Is Eclipse easy to learn? Is there something easier that may not be TOO basic, so that I can create a timecard app like the ones I linked to above?
You dont have to learn to use eclipse .All you you need to know is java and few things about android resources which you can find at android developer website.They will pretty much cover everything.
But without java,you cannot take even the first step of app coding.Heart of app coding is java.
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I see... so there really isn't something similar to Adobe Dreamweaver for android apps?
daniel178 said:
I see... so there really isn't something similar to Adobe Dreamweaver for android apps?
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Like Adobe Dreamweaver lets you design your web layout pages with PHP coding ... Eclipse lets you design the App layout with java coding. Its pretty much similar.
You can even use Netbeans or similar IDE's, but most developers use Eclipse and its the one that's being recommended by Google, I guess.
Thanks... I am little intimidated by Eclipse. Is it mostly graphical? can I get by without any coding? You see the type of app I want to create....
Also, have you heard of Phonegap? Is this easier/better/more or less limiting?
Eclipse is fully gui.You go through a wizard to create a new project,adding app icon,creating main activit(ies),select lowest api and the api for app then you get into a screen like a text editor where you type java,then go to android manifest then added the created activity,give perm and export the app signed.Even the adb is included at the bottom toolbar for easy debugging in real time .
So its pretty much straight forward but it can take sometime for the first time.
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Hmm, sounds like there's some java (at least) coding involved. Can I get by without any manual coding at all?
Also, to create an app like the timecard things above, for Android, what version of Eclipse would be best (simplest, yet able to do the job well).?
Well....Its not some java...It 99% java the remaining 1% is for the look and feel that you put to your preference .That is why I said
But without java,you cannot take even the first step of app coding.Heart of app coding is java.
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No...you dont need any specific version of java.Take the latest eclipse IDE and the latest ADT plugin and code it.There is nothing you can do without manual work of typing java.You cannot do those web page design using dreamweaver here Here is my first app I wrote.There is also the source code attached at the bottom.See how long the code is just to invoke a activity of another app with a default argument.
This is how I set up eclipse:
You must have sdk pre-installed for this.Also sdk needs a 32bit java JDK to work.(you need 32bit irrespective of if u run 32 or 64bit.Dont know why is that so.SDK never recognized my 32bit JDK)
Install eclipse classic
follow this to install ADT
daniel178 said:
Hello,
I am a total novice. However, I'd like to develop a simple timecard app for Android, specifically targeted like the apps below.
http://www.appato.com/edward-pereira/wrap-time-time-card-for-film-crews/
http://www.crewtimecard.com/
These only exist for Apple products, though. What is the easiest, most straight-forward (Windows-based) software for creating such an app? I've heard of something called Eclipse...? Or there's some Google thing?
Thanks!
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Checkout HELLS-KITCHEN. It's a great starting point. With this Distro and a million Tutorials on XDA, you should be able to find what your looking for.
what about Flash? I've watched a couple of video tutorials on using Flash 5.5 and up to create Android apps, and it seems pretty graphical-only (no or less coding -- keep in mind my app is very simple). Would this be a viable option?
What ever you try,The last and final destination is TO USE JAVA for app even if the app is a "Simple" Hello world app!You have to have a main activity,type in the codes etc....You dont get it out my clicking out on wizards like:
Do you want Android app?click next
Do you need it to be simple?click next
What features you need?Select them.
If you are too lazy to type out codes or dont know java,Why not just try any alternative in play store?It is more Graphical and is only few taps
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Alternatively you could try to use phonegap.com or usepropeller.com / simplr.mobi.
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
1. An IM client like Empathy
2. A Wallbase application/or anything that fetches nice HD wallpapers.
3. An application to watch anime
I had a similar question earlier, you might be able to mine something from those that answered
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2105374
The main app most people wanted was What's App, but I saw that some one else has been developing a client for it.
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For the Galaxy Notes:
-full Gimp with GAP, pressure sensitive
-Mypaint, pressure sensitive
kdenlive video editor
recordmydesktop screen capture
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I think that's a bit far-fetched for now..
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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a Google Voice VoIP client, like Grooveip and Spare Phone on android
Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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Airdroid, sound hound, projectM, photo editor, IP Cam Viewer, team viewer, Xtremlabs Speedtest, Phone Ringtone, Angry Birds, Tango Remote
I think the drawing/photo editing APP is great idea.
When i have time i'll sketch something up and make a new thread.
What about a sportstracker app? Endomondo is awesome....something like that or a client for endomondo.
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amgz
Just give us whatsapppppp t_t
I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
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I am not going to make a whats APP client! I really dislike whatsapp. (There API is closed eeg. Free for only 100k users Ort something)
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Luckely somebody is already working on a client for whatsapp. Its one of the most used apps en i think very important to make people wanna use phones with UT installed on it.
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A QR reader
A QR reader sounds like a good idea as well.
Only problem the nexus7's camera is not yet working
But definitly something for the todo list: -)
A decent torrent client please!
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Hempe said:
Hi everyone
Just wanted to ask, what are your must have apps?
I need some ideas for new apps. The only apps (except the XKCD viewer) I could think of are listed in the core apps and I don't feel like joining these projects just yet.
So if you have any ideas or if you know some Android or iOS apps which could be ported leave a comment.
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It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
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It is my firm belief that we should have an APP INSTALL client that seamlessly installs apps FIRST! Then let the DEVS roll out the suggestions. What's the format anyway? not APK I would guess. I think a nice APK converter would work nicely then.
Chief out
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- What the heck is an APK? (That's only for Android and has nothing todo with linux, yes I said it android has nothing todo with linux )
- There are many ways to install an app.
-> you can install a .deb file
-> add a ppa our use the official repos and install via consol
-> build the binarys from source....
Currently someone is working on an "app store" but this is not a priority since ubuntu touch is still in pre alpha.
P.S. I am a DEV and I need some Ideas that's why I started the thread.
Some way to access Pandora One. I listen to some 300 hours a month, so it's definitely a requirement, not a 'want'.
Statement form pandoras website
We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S., Australia and New Zealand. We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative. ....
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A Pandora client sounded like a good idea but "this" makes it rather impossible
Hope you'll find some dev's located in the us that can help you with that.
I'm personally worried about not having an app to track and control my phone in the event it's lost or stolen. An Ubuntu touch UI for Prey or something to that effect would be awesome.
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I make apps with tasker and I want to put them up on Play store in order to earn bucks, but they are not good/useful enough to sell directly. So I need to put ads and as far as I have read, I have to contact an ad network or two. But the problem is that I don't have programming knowledge at all! All I know is to make series of tasks and scenes in tasker and export them with tasker app factory so I have an apk file in the end.
I can make almost all apps which are usually seen in the top free apps' trends in Play Store.
So, how will I put their ads? Do they give something which involves the use of Android SDK? Or can I give them my apk file so they will incorporate their ads for me? (this doesn't seem safe though).
One solution for this may be that they give me HTML for the ad so I can put it in tasker's HTML box, but then the ad networks won't be sure if their ads are showed properly or I am showing something else over the HTML box.
Also, do I have to pay the ad networks in advance or do they only take the share from the advertisements' earnings?
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UPDATE: I have learned how to develop real android apps using java and I have been uploading my apps with the name "Apps By Usman".
I thank everyone for the replies and I want to let everyone know that although I personally do not require an answer to this thread now, anyone who can share information about tasker apps and their monetization should write a reply for those visitors who would be needing such answer.
the post is like 4 months old, so i don't know if you still need the answers, but since nobody answered yet, i guess i'll just try, who knows if it helps you or anybody else.
i never used tasker before, but as far as i know, ads network company is providing sdk we have to include in our development project, some company like millenial media (i don't know about other company though) even providing step by step instruction of how to put their ads into our application on their website.
from your question, i assume tasker is something like game maker or app maker, sorry if i'm wrong, well, since i've some experience in using game maker also, just in case i'm right, in game maker, if they support putting ads into application, usually they include some option to do so, and the sdk from the ads network company is already included, i don't know if tasker have something like this.
hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply, tasker is not a development environment, it is just an app which lets us invoke different functions of phone on a step by step manner, and even lets us export these sets of actions as apk files.
I have, however, found that there is a very little possibility for banner ads in it. So I have now learnt coding in java and I am now making apps in java.
The answer to this question, if someone else is interested is that tasker can invoke html banner ads with the help of webview object if your preferred ad network supports this format, but to make real and native apps, we need to learn java.
if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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admob?
You can get benefits by advertising.
Each advertising platform, there will be a detailed access way and their own SDK,
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if anyone needs to integrate ads in your tasker aps contact us.we have developed a plugin to help you.
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I am willing to monetize my app made with Tasker, is there any easy easy way to insert or inject ads into the apk without codes?
As for paying the ad networks- are you looking to advertise your product or publish advertisements on your app? I guess it depends how many users you have! If you want to both promote your app and monetize your audience base, you should consider choosing a cross-promotional advertising company. I can give suggestions, but for now I suggest you google App cross promotion companies and pick the one that is best for you.
As for the tool kit, it again depends on the company, but a good company will have the option of SDK, API S2S, open RTB, JS tag, etc
ad mediation !!
hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
So being this thread has been revived, Ad networks do not put ads in your apps, you have to put the ad networks into your app. This is normally done by taking hours and hours of your precious time coding a SDK into your project. Boring.....
Using Enhance, you can now integrate all of the services that providers offer without ever having to touch an SDK again. With little to NO coding at all and without touching source code, Enhance® is the easiest way to integrate 3rd party services into your project or to keep them up to date. (Ads, Mediation, Analytics, Attribution, Crash Reporting and more) No more SDK integration!!!
We even have a "ZERO CODE" option for certain features!!!
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hey , if still need answer , ther is some mediation website where you upload your apk and they put their sdk in it with some banner or interstitel ads but still limited as tyou can't control where ads will show up, only at the begining or the exit .
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The point is being able to choose the placement and format for in-app ads easily. That's why mediation works so well.
Is there any way to convert website into android app? I have a website carpet cleaner picks and I want to make an app as well. What I want is complete website must be converted into android app? This is something called webview or something like that if I am not wrong.
There have been dedicated apps for that, which in time lost functionality.
You can fiddle with the Sketchware app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.besome.sketch which is a very simple visual programming app for Android, and put together an app which opens a webview of your site. You can build anything on that even without being a programmer.
See what I did with the website of our scientific society (and I'm no programmer at all): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.debernardis.SITD_in_tasca
EDIT: unfortunately Sketchware, last version, has new problems with showing webviews. Until they fix that, my solution is unfeasible. Already built apps are still working.
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There have been dedicated apps for that, which in time lost functionality.
You can fiddle with the Sketchware app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.besome.sketch which is a very simple visual programming app for Android, and put together an app which opens a webview of your site. You can build anything on that even without being a programmer.
See what I did with the website of our scientific society (and I'm no programmer at all): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.debernardis.SITD_in_tasca
EDIT: unfortunately Sketchware, last version, has new problems with showing webviews. Until they fix that, my solution is unfeasible. Already built apps are still working.
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Ok, That is good. Thanks for this. Now, I can have an app of my website portable carpet cleaners