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So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
kalojado said:
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
kalojado said:
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
kalojado said:
Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
ashclepdia said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!
for some time now i'm planning to get my first android phone. atrix was my first favourite, but it's pretty expensive. in the meantime, google nexus s caught my eye, and i've been trying to find it, but it's almost impossible to find in my country. so, i decided to save some more money and go for atrix. reading a lot about it on the internet, i have some concerns.
1.) i've been reading a lot of opinions that atrix, despite its impressive hardware, often lags, has a lot of bugs; all in all that user experience is not smooth as it should be with phone this powerful. i'd like to hear your opinions.
2.) how is battery life? would it last a whole day with this scenario: brightnes on max, 1 hour wi-fi, 5-10 minutes talk, 30 minutes gaming/using apps, half an hour reading, watching one movie.
3.) is blur ui really that awful? i see a lot of people complaining about it. is it removed from custom roms?
4.) what actions cause phone brick? i've red that downgrading an os causes bricking, so it means if i install custom ics rom, and don't like it, i'll be stuck with it because i can't roll back to stock gingerbread or i'll brick my phone?
5.) coming from WM, i've seen a lot of compatibility problems with apps/games. how is the situation here? will atrix run every (or almost every) app/game?
6.) how does it cope with demanding games like shadowgun, backstab, nova...?
7.) can rooting cause any problems?
8.) anything else, you'd like to add.
thanks in advance.
at this point in the atrix's life... pretty much all of your questions/concerns have been addressed.
read the noob guide that's pinned in the general atrix forum.
take some time to search and read through the atrix forums.
like I said... the answers are out there.
Look at this thread i made when i was considering buying the atrix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478124
Lots of usefull infos and opinions.
Im very happy with my Atrix. After installing custom roms, the perfomance bumps A LOT. Im using Nottachtrix 4G right now, and my phone is flying.
1.) I believe that it's not as bad as people say, things got better with GB, and really it's just the launcher that's laggy, which can be replaced easily through the market. My favorite is ADW EX, very smooth, very clean
2.) that depends on a few things, typically i believe the stock and blur based roms are the best in terms of battery, then CM7 roms are close behind, and CM9 is not so great. Not sure for those exact uses, but i believe the atrix is above par for android phone
3.) There not really much to blur IMO, just some widgets and app replacements. Without any rooting or unlocking you can get make the launcher look relatively stock. And of course any CM7, CM9, or MIUI based roms aren't going to have blur at all
4.) I'm pretty sure this just referrer to downgrading from Stock 2.3 GB back to an early stock 2.2 froyo rom, which honestly i don't see why anyone would do that at this point, after you get to GB and unlock it you can move to any custom rom and back to stock 2.3GB if you'd like. Bricking usually happens when don't thoroughly follow directions, i haven't bricked my phone yet and this is my first android phone as well
5.) Very few to none really, there are a few games that require, certain chipset, like OMAP, tegra, etc. but this can be fixed by install chainfire 3d. So when you get your phone it'll be compatible with 99% of apps out of the gate there aren't any i've run into yet
6.) Quite well, many apps are specifically tuned toward tegra, and it's capable as it is
7.) I think i read that, if your on stock with root permission, you can't receive OTA updates, but on any custom rom it's not a problem
8.) I believe the Atrix has a relatively strong dev community, just a quick look at the number of posts on this site, the Atrix has one of the top.
Im using atrix for 7 months now...its my first android phone and after a lot surfing in net i bought this one....believe me its the best.
With the usage like u mentioned it surely lasts for one day...it has d powerful battery 1900mAh! Blur UI is really good (in 2.3.4)...those all might be related to 2.2.1 but after the update its good...
It takes really good HD vdos...great pics(xcept night shots)....touch and rest is awesome
Go for it.....!
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The Atrix is a good investment. Look at the phones coming out today. What do they have over this phone? Pretty much nothing. They usually have higher stock CPU speeds but other than that they are similar. This phone is a year old and still had enough specs to run with phones coming out. Until the 4-plus-1 chips start showing up in phones you can't get much better. Unless you want a bigger screen.
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Once I moved to Atrix from my iPhone 3G I could never go back. This thing is a powerhouse. It replaced my computer for me. The battery is pretty good for a dual core device. So long as you know not to keep useless apps running in the background (which there are apps out there that automatically take care of that).
I have experienced several bugs here and there but it's nothing major. Extremely fast browsing experience as well.
I would definitely recommend this to anyone. Especially once you root this thing, it turns into a super powerhouse
ok so first of all, HI
secondly, my GF's DX2, currently 2.3.5 and rooted, is a mess. serious lag issues, so much so that its fast approaching the "chuck it through a brick wall" threshold. i've got very little (but some) experience installing custom roms and such on my xperia play, about two weeks experience actually, not a lot but ive been very successful with it as i follow directions very closely and am comfortable trying new things but not reckless about it. especially when its not MY phone.
ive been reading up in this forum for a few days now and wanted to see if i can get someone to tell me the pros and cons of my options and suggest any further modifications i can make to remove her phone from her "Things that cause me stress" list. my GF is a bit of a minimalist and doesnt want 10k apps on her phone and has no use for the vast majority of stuff that comes preinstalled on the stock ROM. however, since im the techie type and any time something isnt working right she comes to me to figure it out, i need to have some tools that i can use to fix whatever problems she has as well as "pretty it up" a bit.
as such i am considering installing one of the following and yes, i realize ill have to SBF to 2.3.4 before doing so:
Eclipse Barebones 1.3 final
or
Molten 2.3 final
but these are just my initial thoughts, if anyone has any insight i will happily consider alternatives. i dont much care what all i have to do in the short term as long as it makes her phone is a happy camper, but this is also something i want to do like, once, and maybe again next year or something. im not looking for frequent updates or whatever (which is why i chose the "final" options) just something that is stable and non-irritating.
as for a tool for me i was considering the ROM Toolbox by jrummy(i think), i have it on my phone and love it, but im not 100% that it would be a good choice for the DX2 or if it would even be necessary considering the roms i intend to install. any and all input/alternatives are appreciated.
MIght want to narrow down what the specific issues you are concerned about might be since no ROM or OTA is perfect.
SBF to 2.3.4 then root and flash CM7. Let it rock. All the features of ROM manager are not X2 friendly and I would avoid it if possible. CM7 comes with it and DZK says do not use it.
That's what is on my old X2 and my bride uses is everyday.
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MIght want to narrow down what the specific issues you are concerned about might be since no ROM or OTA is perfect.
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mainly we just need the phone, texting, the camera, and the ability to play a few minor games like spades and some toddler games for my 2 year old. as it stands when you open the camera it lags for like 30 seconds before opening and then has trouble focusing at best, and locks up or reboots at worst.i would suspect some kind of hardware issue but we just got the thing a month or so ago and its been like this since about the 2nd day.
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SBF to 2.3.4 then root and flash CM7. Let it rock. All the features of ROM manager are not X2 friendly.
That's what is on my old X2 and my bride uses is everyday.
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i though CM7 was one of those that had a ton of stuff that came with it and is something that needs updated frequently? if im mistaken then awesome. as for ROM manager, im glad i asked before using it then. thanks any alternatives to the other aspects of ROM Toolbox?
thanks for the replies
I have tried several of the ROMs and have had the best luck with CM7 on the X2. My bride isn't exactly technologically savy. It has had the very least of troubles for her and very rarely needs a battery pull or tweaking.
I just loaded 3 of Zepplinrocks scripts on it for her. Its running like a top and hasn't missed a beat.
I ran CM9 when I had it and loved it. But I have no worries with CM7.
As for a substitute for ROM toolbox, just let it ride how it is. If you just want to tinker with it, run the scripts a briefly mentioned above. Let me know if you need the links.
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I have tried several of the ROMs and have had the best luck with CM7 on the X2. My bride isn't exactly technologically savy. It has had the very least of troubles for her and very rarely needs a battery pull or tweaking.
I just loaded 3 of Zepplinrocks scripts on it for her. Its running like a top and hasn't missed a beat.
I ran CM9 when I had it and loved it. But I have no worries with CM7.
As for a substitute for ROM toolbox, just let it ride how it is. If you just want to tinker with it, run the scripts a briefly mentioned above. Let me know if you need the links.
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sweet. will give it a shot.
I strongly suggest Eclipse 2.2.1. If she wants something that works and works well, and you don't want to have to worry about applying additional patches to make sure things are stable, well then this would deff. be the one to go with.
GL and let us know how it goes.
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I strongly suggest Eclipse 2.2.1. If she wants something that works and works well, and you don't want to have to worry about applying additional patches to make sure things are stable, well then this would deff. be the one to go with.
GL and let us know how it goes.
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What he said
eclipse 2.2.1 and v6 supercharger
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well alrighty then. since i dont have to downgrade to do eclipse i guess i can give that a shot first and see how it goes. if that doesnt suffice ill give CM7 a shot and go from there.
thanks all
Keep us updated. Interested to see how things work out.
so far so good. eclipse is installed, v6 supercharger is installed(though as far as correctly configured ive no real idea) and was very snappy... right up until she decided to install scramble with friends. so i did some googling and found this
"Game - Scramble With Friends (Zynga) - it has a really annoying memory leak, but it's fun to play. Unfortunately due to very poor coding it frequently freezes my phone."
so i scratch my head and look at her app management page. sure enough scramble is using 130 MB of ram, FAR more than anything else. well hell. it seems ive found the culprit and that ive done an awful lot of unnecessary work with ROMs and tweaks and other various annoyances all with very little, if any, positive results aside from eclipse being very attractive. one thing i dont quite understand though... i have scramble on my phone and it doesnt cause me this kind of headache. any thoughts?
Deviouz1 said:
so far so good. eclipse is installed, v6 supercharger is installed(though as far as correctly configured ive no real idea) and was very snappy... right up until she decided to install scramble with friends. so i did some googling and found this
"Game - Scramble With Friends (Zynga) - it has a really annoying memory leak, but it's fun to play. Unfortunately due to very poor coding it frequently freezes my phone."
so i scratch my head and look at her app management page. sure enough scramble is using 130 MB of ram, FAR more than anything else. well hell. it seems ive found the culprit and that ive done an awful lot of unnecessary work with ROMs and tweaks and other various annoyances all with very little, if any, positive results aside from eclipse being very attractive. one thing i dont quite understand though... i have scramble on my phone and it doesnt cause me this kind of headache. any thoughts?
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What phone do you have? As with all hardware in the device world no two makes and models handle things the same including but not limited to hardware it's self. So if you are running a different device that can explain it. Also in theroy the SD card that is her phone could come into play, by this it would have to do with the class of card. Class 4 is the typical card you buy from say Walmart and alike where as say class 10 would be a better performance. Again the SD card coming into play is only in THEORY.
GL, and let us know.
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What phone do you have? As with all hardware in the device world no two makes and models handle things the same including but not limited to hardware it's self. So if you are running a different device that can explain it. Also in theroy the SD card that is her phone could come into play, by this it would have to do with the class of card. Class 4 is the typical card you buy from say Walmart and alike where as say class 10 would be a better performance. Again the SD card coming into play is only in THEORY.
GL, and let us know.
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i have an xperia play r800x 2.3.3 loaded with DarkForest 3.05.
the SDcards we have are identical 8GB cards. i got a buy one get one free deal on newegg. anyway, she's been using eclipse for a lil bit now and seems very happy with it. only thing is that she has to force stop scramble when she's finished playing or it slowly begins to eat all of her ram. other than that all is good. battery life is almost double what it was before, everything is snappy(as long as scramble isnt running) and life is good.
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What phone do you have? As with all hardware in the device world no two makes and models handle things the same including but not limited to hardware it's self. So if you are running a different device that can explain it. Also in theroy the SD card that is her phone could come into play, by this it would have to do with the class of card. Class 4 is the typical card you buy from say Walmart and alike where as say class 10 would be a better performance. Again the SD card coming into play is only in THEORY.
GL, and let us know.
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and as a side note,
Stairway to Seven baby! that front line is gonna be much better this year. no more ankle biting ratbirds.
The latest version of eclipse is very good. Rock solid performance, good battery life. If you are already running eclipse then you should be able to easily flash the latest version 2.3
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First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Okay ....
Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
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I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
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Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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My wife's got an HTC Aria that's been on its last legs for quite some time. My first "solution" was to update to CM7 back when the Aria CM7 ROM was first released, and it was good for a while. Lately, a few issues have been cropping up, and I haven't been able to get ahead of them (tried Mujeni's latest CM7.2, updated gps drivers...etc).
The biggest things she's noticed is the lagging UI - she gets the "force/wait.." screen a lot lately, and has had a lot of problems with the GPS getting a good fix. She also ran into space issues and couldn't download apps anymore, but we got past that (which is probably why some of the apps are lagging now - being run from SD)
Anyways - I was thinking of updating to the WinSuk CM10 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826894) but am worried the performance of this ROM will be worse than the CM7 ROMs (features, graphics...etc).
Can anyone compare first hand the performance difference between the two? I don't want to give my wife a phone (ROM) that is going to just piss her off more than the old one did.
If the WinSuk CM10 ROM isn't a good answer - can anyone recommend a stable ROM that will perform decently? She doesn't really care about any whiz-bang features, but does use a bunch of apps, so compatibility with recent stuff would be good. Maps, GPS, facebook, foursquare, gmail...etc.
The problem with asking questions comparing two ROMs is that you will get different opinions from users of the ROMs because no one uses their phones in exactly the same way. In addition, it is considered somewhat gauche to the devs who provide the results of their work for free. Unfortunately, it has also been known to lead to some pretty spectacular fights between supporters of the devs. Due to this, we generally close best/fastest/mostest types of threads when we find them before bad things happen.
That being said, I understand and sympathize with your predicament and I want to help as I have had wife/phone issues, but.... to be very honest, I do not believe there is a ROM out there which will fix your actual issue. At least for more than a relatively short time.
I don't have an Aria so take my advice with a grain of salt , but I have a Sensation which has unfortunately peaked for me well before I can get something new (August ) and has had an issue or two as well, but I have maxed out its potential and am happy with it. Actually with the new TMO no-contract stuff I might even keep it until something really appealing comes along.
It's an Aria. It is what it is. You might be able to help it by getting a Class 10 SD if you don't have one already, although depending on the other hardware and many other software factors, Class 6 cards are actually faster at random access which is more common with smartphone and apps usage. Class 10 cards are faster at sequential access which is typically important for cameras or if she uses the phone as a camera regularly. Depending on the app, and I would think also for a2sd, sequential access might be better. No way to predict though, only actual usage with her set of apps would confirm.
I used to have a bunch of apps and then when I switched ROMs it was sometimes a hassle. I realized over time that I never really used a fairly large number of apps after the first or second time so I uninstalled them and settled out a "core" list of apps that I kept loaded always, and I use Titanium Backup to restore some other apps that I use infrequently and don't want to download again or have saved data for.
I make sure to hold the back button when leaving apps that are larger. Holding the back button should terminate it from memory. I reboot every 3 or 4 days. It only takes a few minutes and I don't get unexpected reboots and everything works.
I will leave this open for any Aria users to chime in and keep an eye on it so it doesn't go south. I will move it to the Q&A forum shortly.
Thank you,
mf2112
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The problem with asking questions comparing two ROMs is that you will get different opinions from users of the ROMs because no one uses their phones in exactly the same way. In addition, it is considered somewhat gauche to the devs who provide the results of their work for free. Unfortunately, it has also been known to lead to some pretty spectacular fights between supporters of the devs. Due to this, we generally close best/fastest/mostest types of threads when we find them before bad things happen.
That being said, I understand and sympathize with your predicament and I want to help as I have had wife/phone issues, but.... to be very honest, I do not believe there is a ROM out there which will fix your actual issue. At least for more than a relatively short time.
I don't have an Aria so take my advice with a grain of salt , but I have a Sensation which has unfortunately peaked for me well before I can get something new (August ) and has had an issue or two as well, but I have maxed out its potential and am happy with it. Actually with the new TMO no-contract stuff I might even keep it until something really appealing comes along.
It's an Aria. It is what it is. You might be able to help it by getting a Class 10 SD if you don't have one already, although depending on the other hardware and many other software factors, Class 6 cards are actually faster at random access which is more common with smartphone and apps usage. Class 10 cards are faster at sequential access which is typically important for cameras or if she uses the phone as a camera regularly. Depending on the app, and I would think also for a2sd, sequential access might be better. No way to predict though, only actual usage with her set of apps would confirm.
I used to have a bunch of apps and then when I switched ROMs it was sometimes a hassle. I realized over time that I never really used a fairly large number of apps after the first or second time so I uninstalled them and settled out a "core" list of apps that I kept loaded always, and I use Titanium Backup to restore some other apps that I use infrequently and don't want to download again or have saved data for.
I make sure to hold the back button when leaving apps that are larger. Holding the back button should terminate it from memory. I reboot every 3 or 4 days. It only takes a few minutes and I don't get unexpected reboots and everything works.
I will leave this open for any Aria users to chime in and keep an eye on it so it doesn't go south. I will move it to the Q&A forum shortly.
Thank you,
mf2112
XDA Moderator
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Thanks for the thoughtful response! I probably should've known better than to post but I am at my wit's end with this one. I've already got a class 6 card, and have been trying the "make sure you reboot" line as well. I realize there aren't many options left, and a new phone is certainly in the future (but why aren't there any GOOD SMALL phones!?)...just trying to squeeze a few more months out.
I guess I was hoping someone would chime in with CM10 will run better on the aria than CM7.2 (or the opposite!)...
Feel free to close the thread if necessary...don't want to clutter up an otherwise great board! :good: