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I noticed my S3 drains about 10% battery overnight. I dont think this is normal. Wifi and 3g are off, it just lies there by my bed doing nothing. Ive restarted it and no help.
Cell standby shows 41% usage. Is that right?
The 2 red circles in the screenshot show when my phone is idle just lying there.
Any help?
We need more information. What apps run? have you remove/freeze bloatware. Are you rooted? what rom are you on?
I'm going to run this based on speculation perhaps side effects of rooting your phone? I know there is no conclusive evidence of this but a hypothesis as such. My apologies if you aren't rooted.
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I'm going to run this based on speculation perhaps side effects of rooting your phone? I know there is no conclusive evidence of this but a hypothesis as such. My apologies if you aren't rooted.
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why would rooting your phone create battery drain?
OP the standard answer is to install better battery stats and check it again to see what those wakelocks are. Once you find out why your phone is waking up you can do something about it.
vikeor said:
I noticed my S3 drains about 10% battery overnight. I dont think this is normal. Wifi and 3g are off, it just lies there by my bed doing nothing. Ive restarted it and no help.
Cell standby shows 41% usage. Is that right?
The 2 red circles in the screenshot show when my phone is idle just lying there.
Any help?
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I'm also getting a 10% battery drain over night. I've been putting the phone in airplane mode to see if that helps at all but it really doesn't. Anyway we can inprove this? 10% seems like a lot for sleeping...
Death&co said:
I'm also getting a 10% battery drain over night. I've been putting the phone in airplane mode to see if that helps at all but it really doesn't. Anyway we can inprove this? 10% seems like a lot for sleeping...
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install better battery stats and find what causes wakelocks......as above post!
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thanks for the replies everyone, Im using the latest stock firmware... no rooting here...
Installing better battery stats as we speak and see what they say...
GSam Battery Monitor and / or BetterBatteryStats would be the first place as mentioned already.
I was able to find what was causing me most issues. It was some Calender storage and Google syncs (bookmarks, contacts etc) even though I didn't have them activated.
Anyway, after freezing them I now only lose 2-3% overnight. That is with gmail push, email sync every 4 hours and about 7 or 8 other Widgets updating every few hours. Mostly noticed a massive improvement when I flashed the latest siyah kernal.
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why would rooting your phone create battery drain?
OP the standard answer is to install better battery stats and check it again to see what those wakelocks are. Once you find out why your phone is waking up you can do something about it.
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I don't know but I get the feeling that rooting various phones might have hidden side effects as such, rooting your phone is still evolving as of today. There are still alot that the general doesn't know hence there are always new things about rooting although I might not be knowledgeable in that department. However is it possible to unroot your phone? rather revert it to stock? try doing that and see if there are any differences.
Hey guys.
It seems like almost everyone with battery drain issues has Android OS at the top of their battery stats.
I just want to share my experiences with this particular Bug.
Maybe it will help anyone. Please share if it also helped with your problem.
I had the Android OS bug since I dropped my phone a few months ago and had the screen replaced. The guy who replaced it (official Vodafone shop employee) said that they didn't just replace the screen and that something else was also damaged (they didn't say what) so they also replaced the rest. Well, that's when the Android OS problems started. I tried many ROMs and many Kernels. Sometimes the problem went away for an hour or so, but it always came back.
Then I finally decided to use BetterBatteryStats two days ago (I really should have done this earlier, I know...). I came to the conclusion that I had some sort of the well-known "fuel_alerted" bug, since fuel_alerted was the service that kept my phone from going into Deep Sleep.
This bug should have been fixed long ago but for me it somehow still persists, even on stock JB.
It didn't only drain a lot of battery (I had 8-10h maximum without doing much), it also used up a lot of CPU time, effectively slowing down the whole system to the point that I wasn't able to use Spotify on my phone without severe stuttering.
Well. I found a solution to the fuel_alerted bug.
The procedure is: turning airplane mode on, shutting phone off, taking out battery, putting it back in after a few minutes, turning phone back on.
This solved the problem. No more Android OS draining the power. Phone goes into Deep Sleep again. Only 2% drain after an hour. Spotify runs smoothly again. Yeah!
BUT well... It seems like the problem comes back randomly for me, today I had to replace the battery 5 times...
Now I am trying to strictly follow another "rule" to keep the problem from coming back: Always waking and unlocking the phone before plugging it in or out of power. I never did this before so it could have been the cause of the bug. Now let's see how long it stays bug-free.
If it still doesn't help, I guess I have to conclude it's some kind of hardware problem, which could only be solved by Samsung...
EDIT: Nope. Problem still there. So not really a fix, but maybe still helpful for somebody.
Okay, what ROM are you on?
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Okay, what ROM are you on?
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It's the up-to-date stock Samsung ROM I guess. See attachment for infos.
Damn, it seems like the problem just came back without me doing much. I only checked BetterBatteryStats every 30 minutes or so and recieved 1 SMS just a minute ago. Seems like the bug started 20 minutes ago, when battery was around 78%. Now it's draining battery like hell again, Spotify stutters, Deep Sleep won't work...
Guess I'll have to pull the battery again.
Since I'm pretty new to all this: What kind of information would be useful to narrow down the source of the problem?
I can provide my BetterBatteryStats screenshots and logcat/dmesg files as well as my Android Battery Stats screenshots.
Is there anything else I could post?
Yeah, screen shots of partial and kernel wakelocks.
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I just rebooted the phone, waited for a few minutes and took screenshots.
Here they are.
Okay, this is what you need to do now, drain it empty, charge it (while phone off) till 100 %. Remove the battery, wait for 90 sec or so, put it back and power on.
It's a placebo, but it might work.
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Okay, I will try and do the charging overnight. Thanks!
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Good luck man.
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I don't know much about kernel and ROM stuff, but I was just wondering...
As far as I understand, the fuel_alerted thing turns on if the battery charge goes below a certain threshold. The old bug with it was that, when recharging, the fuel_alerted thing would sometimes still stay on, even if battery charge is no longer critical.
Could it somehow be possible that this threshold is not set to 15% for me, but something around 80% due to some horrible bug?
This would explain why it suddenly turned on at around 80% when everything was fine before.
We're trying to adjust your fuel gauge and sort of calibrating your battery.
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Okay, I did exactly what you recommended.
Everything went well for about 2.5 hours.
Then the fuel_alerted process began again, but this time only for a short while apparently.
It took about 5 minutes kernel wakelock time in a 30 minutes measurement.
Way less than usual and when I check now, it's no longer active.
So. The problem might still be there, or it might not.
Do you recommend going through a few more recharge cycles to get the gauge set properly or do you think this won't make it better?
By the way, thanks for your quick responses!
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Not really.
Now, when it gets to 15% or so plug it in (while phone ON), get battery calibration from play store.
Run the app, when it gets to 100 % hit calibrate. Plug off the device. Turn off.
Take out the battery for 90 sec again, reinsert it and power it on.
That calibration app is another placebo but as I said before, placebos sometimes work.
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Since the battery calibration app requires Root access, I flashed a Dorimanx kernel a few hours ago. Then I did a factory reset and the battery-removal thing. 5 hours have passed now without the bug, 3h of which were without wireless access (maybe it correlates with that).
I'll now let the battery (slowly) drain below 15% and then recharge it with phone on overnight. I will use the battery calibration tomorrow and will inform you about the results later.
Thanks man!
Good to know
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I did the battery calibration. Bug is still there, no changes
Post you battery details and a couple of BBS screens.
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Okay, here are some screenshots.
From the graph you can clearly see when the bug started.
Is it normal to have >26 kworker processes running?
Something else that concerns me: >2h without or with unknown signal. The whole day I was in an inner city area where the signal should be good...
Can you conclude anything from the screenshots?
I will now try something which I also should have tried earlier
I have a spare battery (not original samsung, less capacity) which I just put into the phone.
I'll let it fully charge with phone off and then I will try if the problem persists even with the other battery.
If it doesn't, the problem might come from the battery itself...
Is this a good idea?
No it's not.
You gotta post detailed info there, we can only guess what's draining your battery.
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Okay... I posted the screenshots you asked for...
What more should I post?
Hello! I bought this phone last month. Since I got it, I've never experienced any problem with it. For four days, I noticed that the battery drains very quickly, without any logical explanation for this. The data connection is turned off, Wi-Fi is turned off. Last evening, I charge it to 100%. This morning,I found it turned off, with 0% battery. What solutions do you have to solve this problem? Have you encountered this problem?
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Hello! I bought this phone last month. Since I got it, I've never experienced any problem with it. For four days, I noticed that the battery drains very quickly, without any logical explanation for this. The data connection is turned off, Wi-Fi is turned off. Last evening, I charge it to 100%. This morning,I found it turned off, with 0% battery. What solutions do you have to solve this problem? Have you encountered this problem?
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Can you please provide some more details on this?
I.E. What is it plugged into to charge? Laptop, Desktop, AC, etc etc.
- I ask this because I had a phone that would actually consume more power than a USB port could put out. when turning off the laptop, it actually allowed a back drain for some reason, and the next morning the device was dead. (Not this phone)
Also, what applications are running? Any?
Finally, you can try to retrain your battery... Wiping stats does not work, ever. So despite what anyone tells you, don't do it. You're just wasting time. SOURCE
So, how do you retrain your battery? Let it die completely. Then plug it in to charge. Don't use it while it's charging if you can help it. DO NOT remove it from the charger until it's at 100%. Once this is done, use it til it dies on it's own. Then yet again, charge it fully and then go back to your normal use.
In some cases, these batteries can go bad, for various reasons. A quick test, but is not always trustworthy is to spin your battery on either side. If it makes more than 2 full rotations, it's swelling and going out. Replace it.
The best alternative is to take it to a battery shop, and let them put it on a Cadex machine. (Pronounced Kay-Dex) ... This machine will charge and discharge the battery several times over a few hours and truly test the current life -vs- the life it should be. Anything rated less than 80% remaining life should be replaced.
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I charge it only from power outlet, with stock charger.
Trib wrote 5 paragraphs on info you need to provide and you come back with a small sentence? Pretty much if you use your phone a good amount it will only last you a day per charge. Unless you give us an explanation on how fast it is draining it's impossible to even start helping
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Trib wrote 5 paragraphs on info you need to provide and you come back with a small sentence? Pretty much if you use your phone a good amount it will only last you a day per charge. Unless you give us an explanation on how fast it is draining it's impossible to even start helping
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6 hours 40 minutes from 100% to 10%, and the phone in stand by! Cell standby - 45%, Phone idle - 48%, Screen - 7%
And all this after a hard reset and retrain battery! The battery is almost new (aprox 1 month)!
I want it to make a screen shot of battery drain, but I have no clue how to do that on LG L9...
Volume down + Lock key for screenshots
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Volume down + Lock key for screenshots
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I hard reset it once again. Now is on charging. After that, I will provide you a screenshot with battery stats. Thank you for your help! I try to borrow an othe battery from an other LG L9 phone to see if is the battery or the phone! I hope to find someone with that kind of phone.
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I hard reset it once again. Now is on charging. After that, I will provide you a screenshot with battery stats. Thank you for your help! I try to borrow an othe battery from an other LG L9 phone to see if is the battery or the phone! I hope to find someone with that kind of phone.
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I attached a screenshot. Yesterday I changed the battery. Same problem! I take it this screenshot this morning, after I fully charged the phone ... Same problem, a new battery.
Can you please tell us what applications you have running in the background?
Also deactivate google now.(or the google services in google maps). download and install GSam Battery Monitor and after a cycle tell us what applications are eating your battery the most. It's clear that you either use yout phone(screen on time) allot or there is/are some applications that prevent your phone from going to sleep.
I use battery widget reborn and it shows me wneh the phone woke up,when the phone had the screen on,wi-fi on,gps on. Try it as well.
I also had battery issues when on JB. I downgraded back to ics. It's much more reliable when it comes to battery life. And the performance is about the same.
I don't have any app installed. After i replace the battery, i made a hard reset and I did not installed any app. I will install cpuspy and betterbatterystats for more results. I will back tomorrow. Until than, maybe you can provide me more advices. It can be from a damage sim card?
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I guess your signal quality isn't good enough because cell standby is eating up more than 40% of battery. Cell standby in my phone is only around 5%..
noob.gamer said:
I guess your signal quality isn't good enough because cell standby is eating up more than 40% of battery. Cell standby in my phone is only around 5%..
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I removed the sim card, but in flight mode is the same problem... The last solution is to change the rom with a custom one. Any recomandation?
It's not that. Not the signal. It's the firmware. JB has these problems. In ICS Display is the major consumer followed by Phone Idle and Cell Standby.
I also had these problems in JB and reverted back to ICS .
I would advise you to install CM 10.1 on the phone. The battery life is better than stock. I get around 12-16 hours normally. The latest RC4 has fixed almost all the bugs present in older CM 10.1 variations. Give it a try.
I will root the phone and I will give a try with CM 10.1 or I revert to 4.0.4. If all this will be for nothing, I will sell the phone!
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I will root the phone and I will give a try with CM 10.1 or I revert to 4.0.4. If all this will be for nothing, I will sell the phone!
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On ICS you will get great battery life Telling from my experience as i have reverted back to ICS after trying JB and CM 10.1( both have very poor battery life ) . So instead of wasting time just flash ICS and forget about battery issue :good:
Where can I find a tutorial to revert to ICS?
Same question. Can some one please give a step by step guide on how to revert to ics for l9
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Use the offline flash..
I also reverted to ICS and the battery drain keeps like a countdown
I have the p769, and I offline flashed up to V20D (and rooted). Removed some tmobile bloat, and I have pretty decent battery life. I guess I'm lucky.
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Hi xda! So I've been having a problem for a couple of months with my SGSII and i have searched a lot but i haven't found a solution yet.
The problem is that battery behaves normally and has a normal drain rate, but when it reaches 40% more or less it drains massively and drops to 10 % (more or less, could be 11% or 9%. It is not something precise and accurate) and screen immediately starts to flicker, backlight as well, then the signal is lost and phone shuts down. After that i can not turn it on unless i charge it.
I have looked a lot and pretty much all of the forums recommended to buy a new battery. I bought another battery (original) and the problem still continued. I've also tried swapping batteries with a friend, but the problem still happened to me and not to him. Also I have tried a lot of Roms, I've tried going back to stock as well, but still nothing.
Currently I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1 RC2 because it gives me the best battery life in those 60%.
I leave you an attachment of a screenshot. As you can see battery percent dropped a lot at the end, and i wasn't using it heavily.
Thank you in advance.
It is a hardware issue, I had the same problem (battery would drain below 10% though), sent it to Samsung, Motherboard and Charge Socket got replaced, I don't know which one was causing it because I had other issues like broken home button too.
brpper said:
Hi xda! So I've been having a problem for a couple of months with my SGSII and i have searched a lot but i haven't found a solution yet.
The problem is that battery behaves normally and has a normal drain rate, but when it reaches 40% more or less it drains massively and drops to 10 % (more or less, could be 11% or 9%. It is not something precise and accurate) and screen immediately starts to flicker, backlight as well, then the signal is lost and phone shuts down. After that i can not turn it on unless i charge it.
I have looked a lot and pretty much all of the forums recommended to buy a new battery. I bought another battery (original) and the problem still continued. I've also tried swapping batteries with a friend, but the problem still happened to me and not to him. Also I have tried a lot of Roms, I've tried going back to stock as well, but still nothing.
Currently I'm running Cyanogenmod 10.1 RC2 because it gives me the best battery life in those 60%.
I leave you an attachment of a screenshot. As you can see battery percent dropped a lot at the end, and i wasn't using it heavily.
Thank you in advance.
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May be there would be some hardware related problem. But why dont you give a try to to a wakelock detector app like betterbattery stats or wakelock detector? Atleast you will know which app is eating your battery or is it a hardware related problem.
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It is a hardware issue, I had the same problem (battery would drain below 10% though), sent it to Samsung, Motherboard and Charge Socket got replaced, I don't know which one was causing it because I had other issues like broken home button too.
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Thank you for answering. Unfortunately I have already rooted my device hence voiding my warranty. Maybe i could have it fixed by some technician.
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May be there would be some hardware related problem. But why dont you give a try to to a wakelock detector app like betterbattery stats or wakelock detector? Atleast you will know which app is eating your battery or is it a hardware related problem.
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I have tried a lot of battery related apps. BBS is one if them. I haven't seen anything unsual. In fact I've also tried apps like greenify. However battery life in the first 60% of battery is actually good. After 40% comes the problem.
Send it to samsung
Install triangle away and reset counter then flash stock jb rom from your country & provider
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Hey, I've been using stock 4.1.2+ExperiencedKernel for a long time, it always worked great, but a few days ago I installed an icon pack for KKLauncher, and since then my battery consumption got really bad, around 15-20% per hour when the display is off! I've tried deleting the icon pack, but it's the same, I'm even checking BetterBatteryStats for details, but it doesn't show anything suspicious, although I'm using the app for the first time, so maybe I overlooked something. I have also reflashed the rom+kernel with full wipe, but no luck. Can anyone tell me what can cause this mess, or what should I upload from BetterBatteryStats for someone to check the problem? Thanks in advance.
btw it goes to deep sleep well, so it's not an app that wakes it up constantly (I use greenify too). also the phone itself is very hot, don't know if it's just the battery or the whole thing... but the phone functions correctly.
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Hey, I've been using stock 4.1.2+ExperiencedKernel for a long time, it always worked great, but a few days ago I installed an icon pack for KKLauncher, and since then my battery consumption got really bad, around 15-20% per hour when the display is off! I've tried deleting the icon pack, but it's the same, I'm even checking BetterBatteryStats for details, but it doesn't show anything suspicious, although I'm using the app for the first time, so maybe I overlooked something. I have also reflashed the rom+kernel with full wipe, but no luck. Can anyone tell me what can cause this mess, or what should I upload from BetterBatteryStats for someone to check the problem? Thanks in advance.
btw it goes to deep sleep well, so it's not an app that wakes it up constantly (I use greenify too). also the phone itself is very hot, don't know if it's just the battery or the whole thing... but the phone functions correctly.
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If you don't have any wakelocks keeping it awake and you've reflashed the ROM, kernel and did a full wipe and the battery drain still exists... Then I'd say your battery is failing, especially if it's getting hot. My L9 never gets hot, even under heavy use.
The only other thing you could really try is flashing back to stock and see if the problem is still there... Really though, I'm pretty sure it's your battery.
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If you don't have any wakelocks keeping it awake and you've reflashed the ROM, kernel and did a full wipe and the battery drain still exists... Then I'd say your battery is failing, especially if it's getting hot. My L9 never gets hot, even under heavy use.
The only other thing you could really try is flashing back to stock and see if the problem is still there... Really though, I'm pretty sure it's your battery.
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Hi, thanks for your answer. The problem is, the phone gets really hot on the upper side of it, near the camera. The battery never gets hot at all. Is it possible, if it's battery problem?
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Hi, thanks for your answer. The problem is, the phone gets really hot on the upper side of it, near the camera. The battery never gets hot at all. Is it possible, if it's battery problem?
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I thought you meant that the battery was getting hot. The last time I had a battery go out, it was getting hot and it was draining fast. Shortly after that it wouldn't take a charge anymore.
It is possible that it's a hardware issue. WiFi, GPS or the camera could cause it to get hot also.
You can also try and boot the phone into "Safe Mode" and run it like that for a day or two and see if the problem still exists. If it problem disappears while in Safe Mode then you have a rogue app or something that's causing the issue.
Then to narrow it down you could try downloading Wakelock Detector and see if something is keeping it awake, making it hot and drain the battery.
Monitor it with Better Battery Stats and Wake lock Detector. Post some screen shots of BBS and Wakelock Detector here too. That way we can see if something is going on.
This is one of those issues that will take a process of elimination to figure out.
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I thought you meant that the battery was getting hot. The last time I had a battery go out, it was getting hot and it was draining fast. Shortly after that it wouldn't take a charge anymore.
It is possible that it's a hardware issue. WiFi, GPS or the camera could cause it to get hot also.
You can also try and boot the phone into "Safe Mode" and run it like that for a day or two and see if the problem still exists. If it problem disappears while in Safe Mode then you have a rogue app or something that's causing the issue.
Then to narrow it down you could try downloading Wakelock Detector and see if something is keeping it awake, making it hot and drain the battery.
Monitor it with Better Battery Stats and Wake lock Detector. Post some screen shots of BBS and Wakelock Detector here too. That way we can see if something is going on.
This is one of those issues that will take a process of elimination to figure out.
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I've been using BBS, it shows that the phone is in deep sleep in most of its off time, no app wakes it up. Also, wifi seems to lose its signal very often, even though it's strong (there wasn't any problem with that before).
I'm using the phone now without SD and SIM cards, it doesn't seem to be that hot than it used to, but charging and draining are still very weak. I'm gonna try safe mode as you suggested, and also using the phone without wifi turned on, if that is the issue. Thanks for your tips.
So, the phone cooled down after I turned off wifi, then I rebooted to safe mode, and it became hot once again, but after the media scanning, it cooled down once again. So I guess it may be the CPU? I've been trying to get a picture of the phone's circuit board with no luck, because the phone is only warm in the upper 1/3, the other parts seem to be cooled down all the time.
I'm gonna return it to T-Mobile on Monday, hopefully they won't notice the unlocked bootloader.
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So, the phone cooled down after I turned off wifi, then I rebooted to safe mode, and it became hot once again, but after the media scanning, it cooled down once again. So I guess it may be the CPU? I've been trying to get a picture of the phone's circuit board with no luck, because the phone is only warm in the upper 1/3, the other parts seem to be cooled down all the time.
I'm gonna return it to T-Mobile on Monday, hopefully they won't notice the unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah it might be the CPU. Also if it's dropping and/or scanning a lot for WiFi, then it will definitely get hot and kill the battery quickly.
I don't think that T-Mobile will notice that it's unlocked. As long as you flash back to stock ROM before taking it in, then they probably won't notice. They would have to be purposely looking for it to be unlocked.
You might want to flash back to stock anyway and see if the problem is still there... It very well could be a ROM/kernel issue causing the problem.
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Yeah it might be the CPU. Also if it's dropping and/or scanning a lot for WiFi, then it will definitely get hot and kill the battery quickly.
I don't think that T-Mobile will notice that it's unlocked. As long as you flash back to stock ROM before taking it in, then they probably won't notice. They would have to be purposely looking for it to be unlocked.
You might want to flash back to stock anyway and see if the problem is still there... It very well could be a ROM/kernel issue causing the problem.
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I have flashed back stock one I've been using (cwm flashable), of course I will remove root and any suspicious apps. I appreciate your help.
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