Sooo, Ill start off by saying that I've unlocked, hacked, rooted, jailbroke pretty much every phone since it became available over the years. Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
Well awhile ago, shortly after I got my AT&T M8, I decided to try and turn it into Google Play Edition. Somewhere along the way while in the process of doing S-OFF, something went wrong. I kept getting errors and couldn't get anything to flash. So I gave up and got the LG G3 and put the M8 aside for a bit. Well now I want to use it again, and along the way of "tinkering", I've managed to wipe TWRP, relocked the bootloader, have no OS and still S-OFF. I can boot into recovery or boot to the HTC screen so its not completely gone yet from what Ive researched.
Would anyone be willing to help me out in getting this thing back to stock Sense or point me in the right direction? I want it completely stock, without root or custom recovery. I'd rather a good step by step, if someone would be willing. I can't seem to piece together all of the information i need to do this myself. Thanks!
Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
StupidN00b said:
Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine. The fact is that I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing. I may not have a conventional degree in coding as you might but I am able to successfully mod my phones by browsing forums like this where you can find an abundance of knowledge, especially step-by-step guides, as you are so against. If you are so against step by step guides then maybe you can be the voice about banning them from this forum. Do you see how I am a new member? I am one of the few that actually search the forums instead of posting another thread asking the same questions. Ive used tools and information from this site for a very long time without having to post one single thing until a few days ago. And this is the response I get? I was even humble enough in my screen name to call myself stupid because, with this specific issue, I knew it had to be something stupid that i was missing. You shouldn't tell people that step by step guides are dangerous things. All it takes is some balls and some command lines and you can accomplish many things. Have I messed up my phones and others before? Yes, but i had never run into a situation I haven't been able to get myself out of. To me, tinkering around, as a hobby, is fun. Like now, as I watch Sunday NFL Countdown, I am about to dust off my Nexus 5 and flash Lollipop on it. Guess what I am going to use? A STEP BY STEP GUIDE!!!! If I mess it up, then Im sure I wouldn't be the first to do so and Im sure Ill find a solution on great forums like this. Besides, my rooted/unlocked OnePlus One is my main phone. I wanted to play around with the M8 again to see if I would miss the smaller screen but I don't. So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me because you think i don't have the skills needed to mod my devices. I will continue to do so however I please, just as many others will. Either contribute to threads or ignore them. No need for the insults. You've also insulted many other members who have posted tools and step by step guides on this specific site.
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Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
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I actually did RUU but it ended up that I had a corrupt RUU file. I redownloaded it and put it on the MicroSD card and it worked like a charm. Thank you for your quick response.
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Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine.
So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me
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Quite frankly, incorrect on both points. You don't understand what an insult is, and there is nothing insulting in my post. If you read my post carefully, you will see there is no actual personal attack or insults.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
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Contrary to what you suggest, backing up the previous suggestion is added value; as it adds credibility and consensus to the previous solution.
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I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
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Its just a suggestion, and note that its conditional. Therefore, if you meet the latter part of the statement, the first part doesn't apply to you.
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Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
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I stand by this statement. I've seen dozens dozens of instances where such tools just arm people with enough "knowledge" to get them into trouble, and don't equip them with any tools to get them out. Its then left to folks like me to even start to get these folks on the right track.
I'll step back a bit from my statement that these tools "shouldn't be posted in the first place". I'll agree that step-by-step guides and toolkits might be useful if combined with the proper research, learning and understanding. But in and of themselves, they can easily lead newcomers astray.
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I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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I already gave you the benefit of the doubt here, but you chose to react defensively and in my opinion, unreasonably.
In any case, as far as your knowledge and background, we can only go by what you've stated; and you clearly stated yourself as a "careless tinkerer" and "stumbled" upon solutions. Now in your later post you say "I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing". So if you provide conflicting information as to your background, nobody can be blamed for making an incorrect assumption regarding your knowledge.
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I have been less than pleased with my verizon Titan ever since I have had it. It runs very slow. At least twice a week, I have to remove the battery to unfreeze. The other day, I was in a patients room and noticed that her husband had a phone just like mine. I asked him if he liked it and he said that he loved it. I expressed some of my frustrations and he directed me to this website, telling me that he had installed a new radio and kitchen etc and that it now worked great. Looking at some of the websites, I have only become confused and a bit scared to try and tweak my phone. I do not know where to start.
Will somebody give me or direct me to simple idiot proof instructions on how to unlock/unleash the powers of this phone? I need instructions written for someone who knows nothing about altering smartphones.
Thanks in Advance
Not to be rude, but did you even read the stickies on the forum? Plz read the wiki's gather as much knowledge as you can about the subject and then take the plunge. You will find that the wiki's are most helpful. I would update to DCD's latest ROM and get the latest radio.
You will also find out that alot of basic apps don't come with his ROMs. Make sure you get a list of what you need on your phone before you take the plunge. Get a backup program like PIM backup.
Do searches. Research on your own. nobody here is going to do that for you. People created these wiki's for a reason. USE THEM.
In all truthfulness you should not hack your phone unless you know what you are doing. The wikis and threads are very daunting even to those who have some knowledge of what is going on.
Not trying to be rude, but maybe you need a different phone. One that works the way you want it to work right out of the box.
Best case scenario, even if you manage to fumble your way thru the wikis and then later flash your rom, are you going to be able to recover if you get stuck in the bootloader?
The wikis have the info that you need. But like learning medicine you have to apply yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392133
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=dcdtitanroms
http://ppckitchen.org
You may want to try this one first, to see what all this cooking stuff is all about
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Yes, this is the official sprint 6.1 update with 3.42.02 radio. Non sprint customers can use it to flash the radio only (if you can't via sd card), but again CAN'T let customizations run. Non sprint customers will have to wait until the custom rom is released.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402887
There are different methods to flash your rom, and different choices for rom updates. Read up on all of them. Trust me, you will need the info sooner or later.
Like it says in the DCD thread you need to unlock your phone, you need a rom, radio, and a carrier. I just flashed my sprint titan for the first time and just about cried when it got stuck in the bootloader.
oh looky what I just accidentally found in the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403866
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oh looky what I just accidentally found in the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403866
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What an amazing concept, you read the forum.
Unfortunately that many guides offer what I feel to be short-cuts. It may be fine if everything goes perfectly, but the problem with such simplifications is that new people can find themselves stuck in unfamiliar territory.
People should be take the time to be aware of background to what they are doing to their phones. Personally, I'd rather recommend taking care to understand the Wiki as myself and others have made the effort to cover many possibilities and recovers when flashing.
Hysterical that the poster identifies himself as a trauma surgeon. Lets hope that if any of us is ever unlucky enough to find ourselves on the other end of the scalpel from this joker, that he isn't standing at the table saying "how do you do this?", and might have taken the time to read up first.
There is no correlation between Surgeon and Computer literacy. My wife's cousin in finishing up Med school and is as bright as they come yet not computer savy beyond common tasks.
As for the actual question he needs not to worry. Using the link with Step by Step to the Verizon upgrade will go easy for you. I only suggest doing the radio via SD card and Rom via USB.
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There is no correlation between Surgeon and Computer literacy. My wife's cousin in finishing up Med school and is as bright as they come yet not computer savy beyond common tasks.
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Its not the correlation, its the attitude.
Interesting attitudes here
I will start of first saying thank you to those of you who actually are trying to help. For the rest of you, yes I did search the forum and yes I did read the Wiki. I still did not feel like I understood things well enough to run the risk of "bricking" my phone. (That is new lingo for those of us who don't spend all of our time on computers) Of course I could spend 10 or 20 hours or more, learning more about the phone, which would mean that some time in October I might have it figured out. My job simply does not give me the time to spend hours and hours trying to tweak my phone. I am in the hospital 110 to 120 hours a week (not a month). I feel lucky when I get a few minutes with my wife and kids. But rest assured, when you crash you car and you are bleeding to death, I am there for you just as I am for everyone else. So for the rest of you who are too cocky and to much of a smartass to help someone else out, I ask what in the world are you doing in this forum anyway. I would predict that you are only in here to take what others are here to give OR just here to try and belittle or make others feel stupid.
traumasurg, well aren't you special?
(That is new lingo for those of us who don't spend all of our time on computers)
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Get off your high horse, exceptional ego, relax, and take the time to respectfully learn. Only a single comment here may have generalised and only slightly went over-board, but none were as bad as your absolute swipe against this community -- your second post to XDA.... ebb pegged it, as you do have a horrible attitude. You may have made a far better first impression by not posting your introduction to the forum as a request for a short-cut to flashing your phone without also stating that you had paid notice to the Wiki and current threads concerning flashing guides.... If you had trouble understanding, then why did you fail to state exactly where you went out-of-depth? If terminology is "new lingo" to you then did you at least cover the basics of basic in our Wiki's Titan for Beginners?
You come in here looking for help yet some of us were quite polite, accurate and specific in warning that you should not rush forward with short-cuts before being aware of what you are doing and how to recovery. Links to help were provided to you before in between your two posts. Your phone is possibly your critical property so you should avoid messing with it if unsure upon ensuring that you can maintain its function.
Warning for you in the future -- don't join a tech forum insult all as shut-in computer geeks who owe our life to you. This is an anonymous forum, and therefore all are potentially equal here. What distinguishes members is their decorum of respect and a display of an effort to learn.
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Warning for you in the future -- don't join a tech forum insult all as shut-in computer geeks who owe our life to you. This is an anonymous forum, and therefore all are potentially equal here. What distinguishes members is their decorum of respect and a display of an effort to learn.
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Look, I in no way implied that everyone in here is a shut-in computer geek, although I have no doubt that some are. If you look back over the replies to my original post, there were a couple of members who showed anything but respect. In fact, two of them even posted twice to my original question without any useful information and replied only to in effect say "look how stupid this guy is." If you were on the other end of that reply, what would you think of those here in this forum? There were however several other responses, yours included, that were helpful. Yes I did read through the Wiki and I also had previously looked at two other websites given me by my patient's husband. It was mostly greek to me. That is why I posted.
I must say, I have been in several different forums, dirtbiking, cycling, climbing, trauma, as well as other computer forums and I have never met such attitudes that I met in here this week.
I'll probably just get an iphone next week.
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I am in the hospital 110 to 120 hours a week (not a month)
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sucks to be you...
and since there is only 168 hours in a week and you say 120 of it is for work... that leaves you with 48 hours of sleeping time... which would be a little less than 7 hours of sleep a day... how do you eat? how do you shower? how do you get laid? no wonder the attitude... if no one else understands... I do
It is tough for some to answer the same questions that are (I promise) explained in the wiki. The hope is that most people would understand and be able to follow through with the instructions, but this is not for anyone, similar to HAM radio and FTA satellite.
I encourage you to go for the iphone, it seems more your speed.
Alright traumasurg, I can understand being a noob sucks. So here is a breakdown of what you should do if you want to get your phone with a new rom and gps radio.
That stock rom wont work with GPS radio. You need a non-stock rom for it to work.
Get this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402920
Get this radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403280
use this as a guide: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanRecentHome
Once the rom is installed assuming you have verizon, run the carrier cab.
Get carrier cab here: http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/carriers/dcd Verizon Carrier 20080706.cab
Remember you will need to install the new boot loader first. Then do the rest according to instructions there.
Also, make sure you have another phone handy or a land-line handy for when u call verizon. To get it re-authenticated. You will need to do this whenever u go from a non-gps radio to a gps one. (I reccomend doing this during business hours so u dont freak and wont be able to contact them until they open in the morning)
Oh yeah make sure you backup your contacts to outlook(activesync) or use Pimbackup or your gonna be pissed off.
I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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There are several threads and even a sticky you'd have to be blind or flat lazy to miss to not have seen it with ALL the info you need
Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
Many thanks thecelticchimp. I'm gonna check the links you've kindly given and if there's enough there to give me a basic grounding then I'll bite the bullet and do the deed this evening.
read the top 5 or 6 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=698
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
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Oh dear, foiled at the first hurdle! My phone's build number is 15609. Theunlockr.com sends me to
http://android.modaco.com/topic/316229-19aug-streak-21-downloads-how-tos-rom-superboot-recovery/
where I can't find any reference to that build number, therefore can't find the necessary Superboot files.
Help? ... !
Your first problem is trying to use Superboot. You don't need to, and it's not recommended to use it in any event. All you need to know is how to use Fastboot properly.
The second problem is that you're trying to do this cold. For a bit of an assist, try looking in the apparently little known Wiki on the site here. There is a flashing guide for the Dell Streak there and one very critical piece of advice on it that is a must read, though duplicated on some of the threads.
I am going to recommend that you spend some time reading up before attempting to flash the Streak, or you will very likely end up with a nice, shiny, and very expensive paperweight.
OK, for the moment I'm going to be content with a factory reset and no root.
I think if one of you experts out there fancies a little project it would be to write exactly what the sarcastic "No spoonfeeding here" signature doesn't want; a "Rooting for beginners" guide.
I'm told I don't need to use Superboot, but I thought Superboot WAS rooting. Truth be told all I wanted to do was to be able to uninstall unwanted pre-loaded software on my Streak, not much more than that.
Despite kind people's encouraging words that rooting is now very straightforward, Strephon's timely warning reminds me that it isn't. I think I'll take the easy way out and wait until someone IS prepared to spoon feed me!
Sticky posts are set up so that they never disappear from page 1 of the forum you are reading. They are also so that critical information, such as how to root the streak without bricking it, is easy to find. Rooting the Streak is quite easy; far easier than other devices. Yet it's still possible to brick it if you do not read up on what you're supposed to be doing.
If you were truly a noob I'd have given you a link. However, you have been with the site a while, and thus you should by now know the rules, especially rule 1: search before you post. Thus, no spoonfeeding for you. Use the search engine and the stickies. That is why we have them.
Duly ticked off! Many thanks for the help and advice, I'll start reading...
Cheers,
Aidan
I am a new Xperia Ultra owner and whilst not planning to do any flashing just yet I thought tonight I'd take a quick look at threads discussing steps that would be involved in doing this.
Let me qualify what I'm about to say by stating that I appreciate people on this site who develop tools which allow us to hack our devices so we can make better use of our phones. They are incredibly skilled, gifted and generous with their time. I would love to be able to spend the time learning how to do this but I simply don't have the time. So please don't take what I am about to say as a criticism but more as an observation, considering the effort contributors put into this it would indeed be incredibly foolish of me to criticise anyone here.
I can probably safely say that none of the contributors are also trained technical writers and a fair number do not have English as their first language. Its my first and only language and I often have difficulty getting the meaning across succinctly not to mind getting the spelling right . And I know even for large software houses support documentation is not a priority.
I want to approach hacking my phone with confidence this time round. In the past I've reflashed several phones for myself and friends and simply followed steps and not really understanding completely what the hell I was doing. Lordmanhattan I know I sent you an email regarding a contradiction on your thread. And you very kindly got back to me very quickly.....amazing, thank you. And then there is the "TA partition", WTH is that? I did very briefly google this to find a quick answer but no joy....grrrr (also looked in the XDA Wiki acronyms) I'm sure if I looked hard enough I'd find it. It's mentioned everywhere but nobody seems to be offering an explanation what it is or what it does or why it's important or what it stands for !!!!
Very often I find threads on here describing how to do something hard to follow and this is often for the following reasons:
It could be that there is more than one way to achieve something so its a case of different people offering varied procedures, this can be confusing
A process may be described but then to the newbie the author seems to miss out on a step that to the experienced is obvious
The level of English used leads the reader to scratching their head wondering ...did he/she mean this or that
Threads not being updated or corrected even after feedback
Okay I won't go on.
So I have decided my time might be well spent doing some background research before delving into messing about with my Xperia Z Ultra and saving you guys from having to deal with daft questions from me.
Now does this mean I have to spend time reading through threads and trying to piece it all together to find the best way through and possibly getting the wrong end of the stick or reading superseded posts?
OR
Are there a couple of sites that will get me up to speed understanding the terminology, hardware, memory management, etc for my phone?
I have a feeling it's going to be a bit of both......your suggestions please
Oh, I stumbled across XDA University but got the impression it wasn't being maintained???
Some of the pages I visited....
A New User’s Guide to Android.......unfortunately none of the images for this page loaded
Video guides .................................had flash presentations which didn't load
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I am a new Xperia Ultra owner...
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A good and detailed post, and it's not just the dev's and support that could take note. Some of the people that ask questions really need to read your post and think about what they are trying to say, get help with -- we aren't mind readers either.
I always try and help anew user by using as few TLA as possible in a reply to them. I also try to do the steps as #'d lists with as many steps as possible.
I do think LordManhattan's guide needs a little love as a few things are a little out of date - but it is as comprehensive guide as you could get, and most vagaries are covered in the thread.
TA = trim area, where your unique DRM keys are stored, and god only knows what else.
Thanks for your well written post! First I want to say - like Blueether just did, that we are not mind readers, so we can't possible know people's skill level or what they want to do. That's why I've started to ask them straight up what they want to do and where in the process they are. That way it'll be easier for me to help the other person, and hopefully write a short but complete step by step guide. It won't happen that often, but if I got some time to spare, why not.
My guide is a little out of date now, and I have planned to update it for quite some time, but things are moving so god damn quick around here that even I will get outdated if I take a short break. I recently sent my Ultra in for repairs, and 12 days later when I got it back and ready to get back in the game, a new firmware had been released with a new rooting method. I knew everything one day, and nothing on the other. It's really hard to balance real life and being kept updated at all times. Don't forget that you must be sure about what you know and write when you make a guide, because you don't want to brick people's devices. One slipup and the consequences might be ugly.
There are (of course) one or four ways of doing things around here, and you'll probably get different ways of doing things if you ask me or blueether about rooting or flashing custom ROMs. I guess it's just the way it is. New methods also pop up once in awhile, so some people will adopt these new methods while some other people will stick with the old school method, thus making things a little more complicated for new people who are looking for reliable information.
The TA partition is, like blueether already said, your device's unique DRM keys which makes X-Reality (and other minor things, I guess) work. It's important to make a backup of this partition since you'll lose it when you unlock the bootloader. Why would you unlock the bootloader? You have to unlock it if you want to flash custom ROMs, or if you want to make rooting easier. The problem is that you need to be rooted to back it up, so you'll have to spend some time reading and researching before you start.
Just keep your Ultra stock for now, and just casually read and soak up stuff from different threads around here. Walk around like you do in a new city and check out the locals and see what they do and say. You'll pick up a few things here and there and things will start rolling from there.
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A good and detailed post, and it's not just the dev's and support that could take note. Some of the people that ask questions really need to read your post and think about what they are trying to say, get help with -- we aren't mind readers either.
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a new firmware had been released with a new rooting method. I knew everything one day, and nothing on the other. It's really hard to balance real life and being kept updated at all times. Don't forget that you must be sure about what you know and write when you make a guide, because you don't want to brick people's devices. One slipup and the consequences might be ugly.
some other people will stick with the old school method, thus making things a little more complicated for new people who are looking for reliable information.
Just keep your Ultra stock for now, and just casually read and soak up stuff from different threads around here.
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Yes you can see some people just rush in with questions without giving serious thought to what they want to achieve. I think its people who don't often understand the process properly, haven't thought it through and are following what seems like a straightforward step by step process. Understanding what you are doing requires patience and TIME.
XDA I think is an unrivalled repository of amazing contributions from amazing people on a technology that is constantly evolving. Its also a jungle. One doesn't go into the jungle unprepared
Thanks for the fantastic advice guys and I will heed but I can't promise I might come out with some corkers
One last thing, how on earth do you find the time to lead a normal life? You obviously love what you are doing. It might be easy to assume everyone who contributes here is in IT. I imagine there are plumbers, electricians, mechanics, office workers, retired folk.....
Hello, I was just wondering the best way to root the AT&T Samsung Note SGH-I717. I have looked up many ways but every time I scroll down to the comments I read everyone is having problems. I would just like the best and most proven way to root the phone. I use the phone with straight talk, it is an unlocked att phone, will rooting the phone affect anything with Straight Talk? I am new to rooting so please be detailed and give me links to get everything I need. Thank You so much.
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Hello, I was just wondering the best way to root the AT&T Samsung Note SGH-I717. I have looked up many ways but every time I scroll down to the comments I read everyone is having problems. I would just like the best and most proven way to root the phone. I use the phone with straight talk, it is an unlocked att phone, will rooting the phone affect anything with Straight Talk? I am new to rooting so please be detailed and give me links to get everything I need. Thank You so much.
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so here is the deal, here are 2 methods with very subtle differences. you didn't say what your phone was running now, so here are my suggestions.......
READ, READ, READ
I know you are new here, and I was once too. I went through all of this and was very nervous about the process. (no real reason to be)
I spent a good 2 weeks reading so I would feel confident about what I was doing. I would read through these and figure which is better for you or which you feel more confident in using. they would both work fine depending on your situation or what you phone is running. because these threads are older, you may run into an issue as to where the download files are not active anymore. that is where a recent Google search could come into play. you say you have read the comments for different methods have had negative results. problem is you don't know whether that person followed the directions correctly or whether they were just in a hurry and missed something.
that's why I posted both these threads. compare to what you have read. I have a habit of going to the back of the threads and read forward. this tells me what the most recent problems may have been and if there is a solution. though the files may or may not be active, you can always get the file. its the PROCESS which is correct. compare them.
as I said........... READ, READ, READ
it puts you in the situation to help yourself first
take your time, do as the process suggests. I even rehearsed it several times. due to my lack of experience, I wanted to be as prepared as possible in case something went wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
both of these threads are from very reputable members of the community. as all threads will suggest......they are NOT responsible for what you do. make sure you are ready. watch Youtube tutorals, compare processes, have your files loaded and where you have easy access, read and rehearse.
take your time
whatever you need to do to feel confident. if something goes wrong....KNOW what you are going to do next. if you don't know where you went wrong in process or deviated from it, then others cant help.
good luck and I hope I have helped
edit.......
just saw this...this is at the back of Da G 's thread. suggested by AGOATTAMER. he is the man when it comes to having old links to process. this IS the one I used, that I couldn't find.
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Thanl You Very Much. I am running 4.1.2 jelllybean.
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Hello I have a M8 variant 502 (AT&T). It is S-ON. I was messing around the firmware to find something that woud allow my phone to work with newer ROM bases. Then, I found the GPE firmware 3.11.1700.5 to somehow be compatible with CWS_001 (cidnum and modelid match). The phone allowed me to flash that GPE firmware. This is where the issue rises.
- Now my M8 has become a GPE. It only flashes GPE roms successfully. Other Sense-based ROM flashes result in a failed symplinks. I want to use SENSE inferface, which is the whole point of me buying this M8.
- The newest RUU 4.4.4 from HTC does not run on my phone, error 155 (unknown).
- TWRP recovery of my original 4.4.2 ROM also fails at 50%.
What I have tried thus far, but not working
. Flashed different SENSE ROMs 4.4.4 and below
. Ran the newest 3.42.502.1 RUU, error 155 (bootloader relocked, 1.58.502.2 recovery)
. Tried flashing firmware made by SneakyGhost, error signature
. Tried flashing firmware 1.58.502.2 error 43 main version check fail
My thought is that Google-Play-Edition firmware has different filepath than Sense-firmware. The 3.48.502.1 RUU is not properly signed/uploaded on HTC. I regret flashing that gpe firmware. What I don't want to do is to S-Off for $25, for now. My hope is for a signed 3.42.502.1 firmware so I could move back to Sense ROMs.
Anyone or expert can give me some insights? If you get your hands on the 3.48.502.1 firmware signed, I'd appreciate that, please.
You've been messing around with things you don't fully understand, and guessing at solutions. This is a very dangerous thing while modding phones.
- You shouldn't have flashed a GPE firmware if you want Sense. Why did you do this to begin with? If the intent was to get on 3.x firmware, you could have just did OTA or RUU to official 3.48.
- You can't flash a firmware that isn't signed with s-on
- You can't flash an older firmware with s-on
My recommendation is stop messing around and s-off by sunshine. But as you've flashed the GPE firmware, its questionable sunshine will even work.
I've seen a couple other folks get into a (from what I can tell) unrecoverable position by messing about with GPE firmware while s-on. Hopefully, you aren't in that same spot.
I'm sorry but my reply is going to sound rude
First of all, let me apologize but this reply to the post above is going to sound rude.
I own my phone. I can do whatever I want with it, just like any other person who owns an M8. Furthermore, there is a very clear line between modding a S-on device and a S-off one. My device is S-on. Go back and read my post fully, ffs. If any part of it is incomprehensible, I will gladly reword it with other English words that are easier to understand. Why do you even bother re-asking me the questions which I have gone to great length to try finding an answer on my own, before posting here, and have provided the possible answers I found?
To satisfy your little curiosity, no, I was not aware of 3.48 by the time I flashed. I was digging in the HTC M8 forum, only later to find out that there was another subforum for the 502 M8. All the things about unsigned firmwares unable to flash with S-on I am well aware of, thank you very much for unnecessarily googling that for me. If your reason to be here is to ask "why" this and "why" that, don't be here. This is Q&A section; if XDA is only intended for whoever is well versed at phone modding, might as well close it down and open your own forum, or business, like those fake sites. I am aware of Sunshine may S-off my phone. Again, go back and re-read my post, if you care. At this point, it is not justified enough to make me think $25 is worth using a SENSE rom, that my phone is supposed to be made for, not counting firmwares of course. Once more time, my intention here is to look for a properly signed 3.48.502.1 firmware, or useful advice. It does not take a well educated person to google Sunshine. But it does take a stuck up fool to think common knowledge is his best recommendation. Let me tell you something interesting, in case you haven't known/read, my phone runs GPE ROMs just fine.
Move on.
redpoint73 said:
You've been messing around with things you don't fully understand, and guessing at solutions. This is a very dangerous thing while modding phones.
- You shouldn't have flashed a GPE firmware if you want Sense. Why did you do this to begin with? If the intent was to get on 3.x firmware, you could have just did OTA or RUU to official 3.48.
- You can't flash a firmware that isn't signed with s-on
- You can't flash an older firmware with s-on
My recommendation is stop messing around and s-off by sunshine. But as you've flashed the GPE firmware, its questionable sunshine will even work.
I've seen a couple other folks get into a (from what I can tell) unrecoverable position by messing about with GPE firmware while s-on. Hopefully, you aren't in that same spot.
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I absolutely agree that its your phone and you can do what you like to it. But your subsequent comments just fall apart after that.
Yes, this is a Q&A section. But XDA is, and has always been a place where the best results will come to those that search, learn and research before acting; instead of jumping in blindly.
And instead of giving a fake apology about sounding rude, then flinging out insults and name calling; how about just taking a breath and not doing those things at all. You may have not found my post helpful. But it was intended to help, and unlike your post, did not contain any insults, personal attacks, or name calling. Just pure and simple facts. If its facts that you find insulting, its you that XDA is not the place for. With over 3,500 thanks from other members, my contribution here is hardly questionable.
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Furthermore, there is a very clear line between modding a S-on device and a S-off one. My device is S-on. Go back and read my post fully, ffs.
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Ironically, its very clear for this comment that it is you that did not bother to fully read my post. as the last paragraph of my previous posts clearly states: there have been at least a couple folks on this forum that have rendered their phones inoperable due to messing about with GPE RUUs and/or GPE firmware (on a non-GPE device) while S-on.
Just because you are s-on, doesn't guarantee that your messing with the phone will not have a similar result.
Yes, s-off is not for everyone, and not needed for a lot of things. But it gives a heck of a lot more flexibility to mod or recover, and that is a simple fact.
yaiba60 said:
Let me tell you something interesting, in case you haven't known/read, my phone runs GPE ROMs just fine.
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Again, an incorrect assertion that I did not understand what you posted. If you were completely satisfied with your present position, you obviously wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.
Please seriously re-read my OP
I warned readers that my reply was going to be rude. There was nothing fake about it. Ever heard "I'm sorry but it is going to hurt quite a bit"? To me, your contribution or greatness or w/e it is, was reduced to ash the moment you boasted about it, period. Real.men.do.not.brag. Please don't be like those 21st century internet folks who enjoy collecting virtual 'likes' or 'thanks.' Do respected developers seek that kind of faux reputation? I doubt it.
Your post gave no help, not even a single new thing to the table. It was simply googled facts that I have clearly presented in my OP. I already stated, twice, no S-off is considered for now. Yet, Sunshine was adamantly brought up by you at two separate instances. Please stop, the way you are marketing for them make Sunshine devs look bad; although I know those devs aren't. If buying S-Off is the only thing you could think of, stop regurgitating it here every single time, keep it to yourself please until someone asks specifically how to S-off, thank you very much. I know very well how convenient it is to achieve S-off, and that's exactly why they want $25 for it now.
redpoint73 said:
Again, an incorrect assertion that I did not understand what you posted. If you were completely satisfied with your present position, you obviously wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.
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Did you ever read my post like you meant it? Let me help you out again here: I said I was looking for a firmware compatible with newer base SENSE ROMS, and ended up with 3.19.1700.1 because it was signed by HTC for CWS_001, successfully, mind you. Now I am being assumed that I feel happy about GPE roms. Goodness gracious... It really doesn't take a stuck up guy much time to come up with many hasty assumptions, does it?
Ok let me dumb down what kind of help I am looking for:
. How to extract signed firmware 3.42.502.1
. If not possible, how to obtain signed firmware 3.42.502.1
. Do HTC release their signed firmwares separately from the RUUs?
Moving on.
redpoint73 said:
I absolutely agree that its your phone and you can do what you like to it. But your subsequent comments just fall apart after that.
Yes, this is a Q&A section. But XDA is, and has always been a place where the best results will come to those that search, learn and research before acting; instead of jumping in blindly.
And instead of giving a fake apology about sounding rude, then flinging out insults and name calling; how about just taking a breath and not doing those things at all. You may have not found my post helpful. But it was intended to help, and unlike your post, did not contain any insults, personal attacks, or name calling. Just pure and simple facts. If its facts that you find insulting, its you that XDA is not the place for. With over 3,500 thanks from other members, my contribution here is hardly questionable.
Ironically, its very clear for this comment that it is you that did not bother to fully read my post. as the last paragraph of my previous posts clearly states: there have been at least a couple folks on this forum that have rendered their phones inoperable due to messing about with GPE RUUs and/or GPE firmware (on a non-GPE device) while S-on.
Just because you are s-on, doesn't guarantee that your messing with the phone will not have a similar result.
Yes, s-off is not for everyone, and not needed for a lot of things. But it gives a heck of a lot more flexibility to mod or recover, and that is a simple fact.
Again, an incorrect assertion that I did not understand what you posted. If you were completely satisfied with your present position, you obviously wouldn't have started this thread in the first place.
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Sooooo you come to the Q&A looking for help then you are rude and post in this manner to those trying....
Bottom-line you want Sense, they you must run Sense firmware, and if won't be able to really much of anything regarding Flashing ROM's or any development, until you are S-Off which the only thing in "town" is to pay the $$ and move on and then do super CID. So you will be able to flash any firmware.
This is how most on the M8 Community are doing, it going S-off and super CID, in order to flash or run any development.
If not then take it back to stock and stay stock, more searching on your part can answer your questions, but Good Luck, in getting help with Views: 271 and only one that tried to provide assistance....
yaiba60 said:
I
warned readers that my reply was going to be rude. There was nothing fake about it. Ever heard "I'm sorry but it is going to hurt quite a bit"? To me, your contribution or greatness or w/e it is, was reduced to ash the moment you boasted about it, period. Real.men.do.not.brag. Please don't be like those 21st century internet folks who enjoy collecting virtual 'likes' or 'thanks.' Do respected developers seek that kind of faux reputation? I doubt it.
Your post gave no help, not even a single new thing to the table. It was simply googled facts that I have clearly presented in my OP. I already stated, twice, no S-off is considered for now. Yet, Sunshine was adamantly brought up by you at two separate instances. Please stop, the way you are marketing for them make Sunshine devs look bad; although I know those devs aren't. If buying S-Off is the only thing you could think of, stop regurgitating it here every single time, keep it to yourself please until someone asks specifically how to S-off, thank you very much. I know very well how convenient it is to achieve S-off, and that's exactly why they want $25 for it now.
Did you ever read my post like you meant it? Let me help you out again here: I said I was looking for a firmware compatible with newer base SENSE ROMS, and ended up with 3.19.1700.1 because it was signed by HTC for CWS_001, successfully, mind you. Now I am being assumed that I feel happy about GPE roms. Goodness gracious... It really doesn't take a stuck up guy much time to come up with many hasty assumptions, does it?
Ok let me dumb down what kind of help I am looking for:
. How to extract signed firmware 3.42.502.1
. If not possible, how to obtain signed firmware 3.42.502.1
. Do HTC release their signed firmwares separately from the RUUs
?
Moving on.
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yaiba60 said:
First of all, let me apologize but this reply to the post above is going to sound rude.
I own my phone. I can do whatever I want with it, just like any other person who owns an M8. Furthermore, there is a very clear line between modding a S-on device and a S-off one. My device is S-on. Go back and read my post fully, ffs. If any part of it is incomprehensible, I will gladly reword it with other English words that are easier to understand. Why do you even bother re-asking me the questions which I have gone to great length to try finding an answer on my own, before posting here, and have provided the possible answers I found?
To satisfy your little curiosity, no, I was not aware of 3.48 by the time I flashed. I was digging in the HTC M8 forum, only later to find out that there was another subforum for the 502 M8. All the things about unsigned firmwares unable to flash with S-on I am well aware of, thank you very much for unnecessarily googling that for me. If your reason to be here is to ask "why" this and "why" that, don't be here. This is Q&A section; if XDA is only intended for whoever is well versed at phone modding, might as well close it down and open your own forum, or business, like those fake sites. I am aware of Sunshine may S-off my phone. Again, go back and re-read my post, if you care. At this point, it is not justified enough to make me think $25 is worth using a SENSE rom, that my phone is supposed to be made for, not counting firmwares of course. Once more time, my intention here is to look for a properly signed 3.48.502.1 firmware, or useful advice. It does not take a well educated person to google Sunshine. But it does take a stuck up fool to think common knowledge is his best recommendation. Let me tell you something interesting, in case you haven't known/read, my phone runs GPE ROMs just fine.
Move on.
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If regurgitating facts about S-off is considered *help,* then obviously people are not even trying the slightest to help, let alone reading my post. I have repeatedly stated that I.don't.want.to.buy.S.off. Please stop trying to shove it down my throat. I have even dumbed down my question, and the types of answer I am eagerly expecting.
To those who faithfully think that S-off is the only one-and-only-solution, please keep it to yourself and move along. I can very well google it because Sunshine is a commercial service, it's all over the place. Thank you very much.
For the third time, in my third post, I am going to restate my intention here is to seek a SIGNED FIRMWARE 3.42.502.1. or how to extract one from the RUU/OTA :fingers-crossed:
Gosh, talk about a severe deterioration in reading comprehension some people have...
Again, keep that S-off business away from my thread. By deliberately trying to market Sunshine in every single instance, YOU are making Sunshine devs look very bad.
Judge Joseph Dredd said:
Sooooo you come to the Q&A looking for help then you are rude and post in this manner to those trying....
Bottom-line you want Sense, they you must run Sense firmware, and if won't be able to really much of anything regarding Flashing ROM's or any development, until you are S-Off which the only thing in "town" is to pay the $$ and move on and then do super CID. So you will be able to flash any firmware.
This is how most on the M8 Community are doing, it going S-off and super CID, in order to flash or run any development.
If not then take it back to stock and stay stock, more searching on your part can answer your questions, but Good Luck, in getting help with Views: 271 and only one that tried to provide assistance....
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yaiba60 said:
If regurgitating facts about S-off is considered *help,* then obviously people are not even trying the slightest to help, let alone reading my post. I have repeatedly stated that I.don't.want.to.buy.S.off. Please stop trying to shove it down my throat. I have even dumbed down my question, and the types of answer I am eagerly expecting.
To those who faithfully think that S-off is the only one-and-only-solution, please keep it to yourself and move along. I can very well google it because Sunshine is a commercial service, it's all over the place. Thank you very much.
For the third time, in my third post, I am going to restate my intention here is to seek a SIGNED FIRMWARE 3.42.502.1. or how to extract one from the RUU/OTA :fingers-crossed:
Gosh, talk about a severe deterioration in reading comprehension some people have...
Again, keep that S-off business away from my thread. By deliberately trying to market Sunshine in every single instance, YOU are making Sunshine devs look very bad.
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I see you still posting in your manner. Have you tried using the Search function...
btw no one is forcing anything, as no one forced you to go GPE and if you had done some reading and homework you would of know, once you go GPE the files/folder do not allow Sense based ROMs. But you know that now... again your seek for help well, would not of been needed if you Search and done your Homework.
But since your search function is tied to your manners and thankfulness button try looking here and again good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694600
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
You've been messing around with things you don't fully understand, and guessing at solutions. This is a very dangerous thing while modding phones.
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A smart Member like yourself would of know this ^^^^^^ but hey you got it right....
I urge anyone whose only knowledge is worshiping paid S-off to stop derailing my thread. It might be a universal solution; but it is completely irrelevant to my inquiry.
Which word, in this sentence "I am seeking info on signed firmware 3.42.502.1," is too hard to comprehend, geniuses?
I always deny being a smart person. However, I do try to read and fully understand an inquiry before writing a response. It's called being considerate. Yet some people just love to make hasty assumptions...
Ok, here is another try: If you know something about signed firmware 3.42.502.1, please educate me. If you know absolutely nothing about this signed firmware, please refrain from posting your response as it is probably going to be irrelevant. Thank you very much for comprehending :fingers-crossed:
Judge Joseph Dredd said:
I see you still posting in your manner. Have you tried using the Search function...
btw no one is forcing anything, as no one forced you to go GPE and if you had done some reading and homework you would of know, once you go GPE the files/folder do not allow Sense based ROMs. But you know that now... again your seek for help well, would not of been needed if you Search and done your Homework.
But since your search function is tied to your manners and thankfulness button try looking here and again good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694600
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
A smart Member like yourself would of know this ^^^^^^ but hey you got it right....
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It appears from the looks of things...youll not be getting any help or answers just for the simple fact you keep with the attitude,sarcasm and rudeness of your posts. I have an answer but will not share it,sorry but do not agree with any of your rude bantering. The answers were given to you by judge dredd. You've direspected the only person that was trying to help and continue to do so to everyone who responds.So in short....Good luck...
If your answer involves info on the signed firmware 3.42.502.1, then by all means, I will bend backward/forward/sideward/however you want me to so that you will share it with the entire community. If it, again, is another regurgitation of S-off for $25, I am thankful that you have decided to keep it for yourself. :fingers-crossed:
Remember, dear "recognized contributors," what you share here on the signed firmware 3.42.502.1 will benefit not just me, but the entire flock of those with S-on. I can't talk for others, but I *myself* will thank you dearly for that good deed. Then again who knows if somebody is bluffing, or actually wants to be paid for distributing HTC signed firmwares...
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It appears from the looks of things...youll not be getting any help or answers just for the simple fact you keep with the attitude,sarcasm and rudeness of your posts. I have an answer but will not share it,sorry but do not agree with any of your rude bantering. The answers were given to you by judge dredd. You've direspected the only person that was trying to help and continue to do so to everyone who responds.So in short....Good luck...
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Again with the attitude...i dont "want" you to say anything. Seems to me your condescending attitude is exactly why NOBODY is going to help. You dug your own hole,dig yourself outta it. Answers are on this forum as your not the first to have done this to their phone.Good luck sir.
yaiba60 said:
If your answer involves info on the signed firmware 3.42.502.1, then by all means, I will bend backward/forward/sideward/however you want me to so that you will share it with the entire community. If it, again, is another regurgitation of S-off for $25, I am thankful that you have decided to keep it for yourself. :fingers-crossed:
Remember, dear "recognized contributors," what you share here on the signed firmware 3.42.502.1 will benefit not just me, but the entire flock of those with S-on. I can't talk for others, but I *myself* will thank you dearly for that good deed. Then again who knows if somebody is bluffing, or actually wants to be paid for distributing HTC signed firmwares...
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Thread Closed as this is going no where....good luck OP.