Brand-new Note II!! - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Hey everyone, this is my first post in the Verizon GN2 area. I just swapped my TMo GN2 for a BNIB Verizon Gn2, still has stock MC3. Popped in SIM to make sure all was good, it started to DL the OTA update, so I yanked the battery and SIM until I have it rooted. I have a lot of experience with rooting, ROMS and flashing, but with a same-but-different device, I would like the pro's here to give me a few pointers, if possible.
Best root method for a device with older firmware?
Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
Thanks to all the devs for their hard work, and thanks in advice for any pointers!

OwenW71 said:
Hey everyone, this is my first post in the Verizon GN2 area. I just swapped my TMo GN2 for a BNIB Verizon Gn2, still has stock MC3. Popped in SIM to make sure all was good, it started to DL the OTA update, so I yanked the battery and SIM until I have it rooted. I have a lot of experience with rooting, ROMS and flashing, but with a same-but-different device, I would like the pro's here to give me a few pointers, if possible.
Best root method for a device with older firmware?
Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
Thanks to all the devs for their hard work, and thanks in advice for any pointers!
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1. Best root method for a device with older firmware?
To root and unlock the bootloader on stock 4.1.2, you need to use Adam Outler's CASUAL program found here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272066 ). The version of Casual that worked for me was R515.... just make sure you totally disable all virus scanning on your computer before running it... (you may need to kill processes in Task Manager to stop Window's Defender).
2. Is the ND7 radio flashable on older kernel\bootloader combos?
As far as radio’s/modems go... I know you can flash newer radios on the older ROM/kernel combos.... but I would probably just use the radio that's recommended in the thread for whatever custom ROM you plan to flash.
Here’s some links to where you can grab the radios:
--Grab Beanstown106’s modified ODIN flashable firmware package for MJ9 from the bottom of the first post in this thread: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )
--You can grab older recovery flashable radios/modems here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510 )
--Here's a link for the ND7 4.4.2 RADIO (scroll down on the first post to find it under downloads). It is meant to be flashed in recovery, but it may be a good idea to ODIN flash Beanstown106's modified MJ9 firmware first.... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021 )
--Here's a thread with helpful steps on how to flash the modems in recovery: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43217826&highlight=install#post43217826 )
--Also, here's a link to a post with more detailed instructions on how to Odin flash the MJ9 firmware after you download and unzip the file... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50047714&highlight=unzip#post50047714 ).
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3. If you were in my shoes, what steps would you take to root and flash to keep maximum flexibility in the future?
If you flash any full stock builds newer than VRAMC3 4.1.2, then you'll end up locking the bootloader with no way to unlock it at this point (so don't ODIN flash full stock 4.3 or 4.4.2 or take OTA's if you want to keep the option to flash a custom recovery/kernel/etc...). Use the recovery flashable 4.3 and 4.4.2 based ROM's in the development threads if you want to experience features from those builds and maintain ability to unlock bootloader. In my personal experience, I've found 4.1.2 based ROM's to be the most stable for me with the fewest overall problems. I ran JellyBeans build 22 as my main "go to" ROM for a long time with no real problems.... (that was the last JellyBeans ROM that he put out with a 4.1.2 base before he moved on to 4.3 for that ROM. You can still grab the older JellyBeans build 22 from Beanstown106's Android File Host if you're interested.... just go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447 -- and scroll down on the first post to find the link for the older builds).
I'd also recommend that you read through all the stickies in the development/general/help threads, just to get familiar with all the ins and outs of this phone. Especially check out droidstyle's Guide on – ( "How to Root/Rom/Return to Stock the VZW Galaxy Note II" ). This will save your butt if you mess something up and need to return to stock to start over.

Thanks for the info!
I think I will stick with the MC3 BL for now, and try to find a 4.4.2 flashable ROM that works well. Most of the ones I've looked at are saying they require the MJ9 or later BL...seems odd to require a locked bootloader. Recommendations are welcome, but I'm not against doing my homework. Thanks again for the reply and info. Already have root and flashed a few ROMs that did not make the grade, but will keep looking.

OwenW71 said:
Thanks for the info!
I think I will stick with the MC3 BL for now, and try to find a 4.4.2 flashable ROM that works well. Most of the ones I've looked at are saying they require the MJ9 or later BL...seems odd to require a locked bootloader. Recommendations are welcome, but I'm not against doing my homework. Thanks again for the reply and info. Already have root and flashed a few ROMs that did not make the grade, but will keep looking.
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Mj9 is the radio. Never upgrade your bootloader or you will be locked.
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@ OwenW71,
I know it's kind of confusing... but the link I gave you to Beanstown106’s modified MJ9 firmware package at: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )... it is not the official stock mj9 firmware... It's just needed for updating the radios/wifi to use when flashing custom 4.3+ ROM'S from the development threads.
Like michigan66 said... you don't want to take any OTA's for 4.3/4.4.2...or odin flash the official stock Verizon 4.3/4.4.2 firmware... because that will lock the bootloader with no way for you to unlock it.

mattnmag said:
@ OwenW71,
I know it's kind of confusing... but the link I gave you to Beanstown106’s modified MJ9 firmware package at: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578458 )... it is not the official stock mj9 firmware... It's just needed for updating the radios/wifi to use when flashing custom 4.3+ ROM'S from the development threads.
Like michigan66 said... you don't want to take any OTA's for 4.3/4.4.2...or odin flash the official stock Verizon 4.3/4.4.2 firmware... because that will lock the bootloader with no way for you to unlock it.
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So that thread says it is a full firmware package, but you're saying it will leave my bootloader alone? I'm not accustomed to seeing Odin packages that don't mess with the BL. According to the post, I flash the firmware with Odin, then use Recovery to flash the ROM? It did not state how the ROM is flashed.
It also looks like TWRP is not in favor right now, but it is the recovery that the jailbreak provides. Guess I should switch to Philz. Ah, so much to do...
THanks again!

OwenW71 said:
So that thread says it is a full firmware package, but you're saying it will leave my bootloader alone? I'm not accustomed to seeing Odin packages that don't mess with the BL. According to the post, I flash the firmware with Odin, then use Recovery to flash the ROM? It did not state how the ROM is flashed.
It also looks like TWRP is not in favor right now, but it is the recovery that the jailbreak provides. Guess I should switch to Philz. Ah, so much to do...
THanks again!
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So where BeansTown106 says.... "You Need to Flash This Full Firmware Package Via Odin to get the new modem and to get wifi to work..."— for clarification, this is not factory stock Verizon firmware. Beanstown106 modified things and this is just the radio/wifi related portion. It will not change the VRAMC3 bootloader.
Yes, you will flash custom ROM'S via a zip file in custom recovery.... (you don't want to flash any custom ROM'S in Odin after using CASUAL-- see this thread for more about why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35396049).
TWRP works fine for some ROM's and Philz or CWM is recommended for others. Most ROM threads recommend a recovery and I would just use whatever is recommended for the custom ROM that you decide to flash.

Okay, thanks! I was aware of the warning about using Odin for custom ROMs, so that is part of what gave me pause about flashing MJ9, in addition to the BL concern.
Thanks so much for the guidance. The stickies are good, but they did not really spell out the process for keeping an unlocked BL while still making my way up a more current firmware.
Honestly, guys like you make this forum a joy. I very briefly used the iPhone 5s that work gave me, and I was going ape****. I'm not an Apple hater, but iPhones suck. Slow, bad apps, bad gps, no customization. So glad to come back from the dark side! And with guys like this to help a fella out, can there be any question which side is on the side of light and goodness?
Cheers!
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[Q] OTA ICS on AT&T Stock Rooted via RoloRacer Method

Will AT&T GNotes running stock I717UCLA1 rooted by RoloRacer's method (no tripping of flash counter) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962 get the official AT&T OTA ICS update when available? Or will these phones need to be unrooted to get the update?
Thank you.
generally, rooted phones do NOT get OTA updates, but since this hasn't been released yet, no one can answer your question.
let us know if you get it when the ota gets released, ok?
wase4711 said:
generally, rooted phones do NOT get OTA updates, but since this hasn't been released yet, no one can answer your question.
let us know if you get it when the ota gets released, ok?
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Certainly!
I keep checking for an update daily, hoping that it will be available sometime this month. But, if it isn't here by the end of the month, I think that I will flash one of the custom ICS ROMs that are available.
If I decide to install a custom ICS ROM, will I need to first, unroot the device and then flash this new ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
mountainbound said:
Certainly!
I keep checking for an update daily, hoping that it will be available sometime this month. But, if it isn't here by the end of the month, I think that I will flash one of the custom ICS ROMs that are available.
If I decide to install a custom ICS ROM, will I need to first, unroot the device and then flash this new ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
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No. You will need to be rooted to get into CWM and load a ROM...if You dont have CWM installed, install it via Odin. Be aware though that this will trip the flash counter, but there are ways to remove that notification
na, just root your phone, and start flashing custom roms..
the dev's here will incorporate any changes/improvements from the official release into their base roms once it ACTUALLY comes out
there won't be anything unique in the "official" release that the dev's here won't be able to use, if its an improvement over what they are doing now..
I already have the phone rooted using the mashi root method listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962 Being a NOOB in the Android world, I'm not sure what needs to be done next to be able to intall the ICS ROM.
Since my Note is already rooted, can I install the ClockworkMod Recovery listed here, first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23170524 and then install this ICS ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
Thank you.
I installed ClockworkMod Touch Recovery last night with success! Now I plan on flashing ICS later today. I'm going to try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
itsnowornever said:
No. You will need to be rooted to get into CWM and load a ROM...if You dont have CWM installed, install it via Odin. Be aware though that this will trip the flash counter, but there are ways to remove that notification
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You don't need root for cwm. At all.
Download mode and recovery are underneath the os, only need root while inside Android itself
studacris said:
You don't need root for cwm. At all.
Download mode and recovery are underneath the os, only need root while inside Android itself
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I feel like you've said that before...:banghead:
I have, a million times, and i will a million times more.
I installed ICS and it works GREAT!!!! Much faster than GB! Now I wish I had done it sooner.

[Q] Question about flashing roms

Hi guys,
I know with phones I've had in the past, we could flash roms from other carriers as long as we flashed a Kernel for the carrier you're currently on. Is this the case with our Sprint Note 3? There aren't a lot of roms available for our variant, so I was hoping to find more roms to experiment with, but don't want to mess anything up. Thanks in advance for your help.
First, what OS version do you have on your note 3. If you have updated to 4.4.2 NC5 you CANNOT downgrade to a older version of KK like NAB. Assuming you have, then you can only flash KK 4.4.2 based roms . I don't think you can flash roms from other carriers as the Basebands won't match.
EDIT here is some more info; ( Thanks topherk )
If you "dirty flash," there's no problem with that, just know that if you ever encounter an error, we will be unable to help you in any way.
You're right, cross-flashing might leave remnants (features) of the previous ROM, but there's no guarantee that they'll be utilized correctly or linked correctly to the system files. As far as I know, the "worst" thing that could happen by dirty flashing is an unrelenting boot-loop. In those cases, you should just do a full system wipe and re-install the ROM.
I recommend, as Micmars does, a full system wipe prior to installing any ROM, but to each their own.
Typically, ROMs do not install different modems. As far as the MJ4 vs. NAB vs. NC5, here's a little primer on the various versions:
MJ4
This was the last Jellybean TW released for the Sprint Note 3. If you are on MJ4, you'll have to update your bootloader to NAB (or NC5) in order to update to KitKat ROMs (and you can't go back). The
NAB
This is the first KitKat TW ROM for the Sprint Note 3. Once on NAB, you can't go back down to Jellybean (yet... some people are working on it). You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
NC5
This is the second KitKat TW release for the Sprint Note 3. It introduced some updates to the system and it includes WiFi calling (I've never used it, but others say it's really nice). You can flash back and forth between NAB and NC5 ROMs as much as you want, without changing anything. You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
As far as updating to NC5 ROMs, just look at the changelogs between the NAB and NC5 versions of the ROM. If the added/changed features look appealing to you (or it looks more stable), then by all means update.
As far as modems go, I always stick to the newest Modem, which always tend to work best for me (I'm in a large metropolitan area). Sometimes people will report that the older modems (MJ4 or NAB) work better in their area. The Modems are completely separate from the ROMs, so flashing an older (or newer) modem should not have any affect on the stability of the ROM. It's really up to you if you want to update it.
As far as bootloaders go, if you are already on KitKat ROMs, I'd recommend updating to the NC5 Engineering Bootloader, but as long as you're on NAB, you should be fine. Just make sure to read the OP of any ROM you flash, they typically will tell you what version of the bootloader you need to be on.
jimzweb1 said:
First, what OS version do you have on your note 3. If you have updated to 4.4.2 NC5 you CANNOT downgrade to a older version of KK like NAB. Assuming you have, then you can only flash KK 4.4.2 based roms . I don't think you can flash roms from other carriers as the Basebands won't match.
EDIT here is some more info; ( Thanks topherk )
If you "dirty flash," there's no problem with that, just know that if you ever encounter an error, we will be unable to help you in any way.
You're right, cross-flashing might leave remnants (features) of the previous ROM, but there's no guarantee that they'll be utilized correctly or linked correctly to the system files. As far as I know, the "worst" thing that could happen by dirty flashing is an unrelenting boot-loop. In those cases, you should just do a full system wipe and re-install the ROM.
I recommend, as Micmars does, a full system wipe prior to installing any ROM, but to each their own.
Typically, ROMs do not install different modems. As far as the MJ4 vs. NAB vs. NC5, here's a little primer on the various versions:
MJ4
This was the last Jellybean TW released for the Sprint Note 3. If you are on MJ4, you'll have to update your bootloader to NAB (or NC5) in order to update to KitKat ROMs (and you can't go back). The
NAB
This is the first KitKat TW ROM for the Sprint Note 3. Once on NAB, you can't go back down to Jellybean (yet... some people are working on it). You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
NC5
This is the second KitKat TW release for the Sprint Note 3. It introduced some updates to the system and it includes WiFi calling (I've never used it, but others say it's really nice). You can flash back and forth between NAB and NC5 ROMs as much as you want, without changing anything. You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
As far as updating to NC5 ROMs, just look at the changelogs between the NAB and NC5 versions of the ROM. If the added/changed features look appealing to you (or it looks more stable), then by all means update.
As far as modems go, I always stick to the newest Modem, which always tend to work best for me (I'm in a large metropolitan area). Sometimes people will report that the older modems (MJ4 or NAB) work better in their area. The Modems are completely separate from the ROMs, so flashing an older (or newer) modem should not have any affect on the stability of the ROM. It's really up to you if you want to update it.
As far as bootloaders go, if you are already on KitKat ROMs, I'd recommend updating to the NC5 Engineering Bootloader, but as long as you're on NAB, you should be fine. Just make sure to read the OP of any ROM you flash, they typically will tell you what version of the bootloader you need to be on.
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I'm fully aware of how to flash roms, and the merits of not "dirty flashing". What I'm curious about is whether or not we can find, for example, an AT&T Note 3 Rom, flash it on our phone, then immediately after flash the Beastmode kernel for our Sprint variant, and be able to actually boot into the rom and not lose the important things like wifi connectivity or 4g connectivity. I remember with other phones I've had in the past we were able to do that, without any major issues.
jimzweb1 said:
First, what OS version do you have on your note 3. If you have updated to 4.4.2 NC5 you CANNOT downgrade to a older version of KK like NAB. Assuming you have, then you can only flash KK 4.4.2 based roms . I don't think you can flash roms from other carriers as the Basebands won't match.
EDIT here is some more info; ( Thanks topherk )
If you "dirty flash," there's no problem with that, just know that if you ever encounter an error, we will be unable to help you in any way.
You're right, cross-flashing might leave remnants (features) of the previous ROM, but there's no guarantee that they'll be utilized correctly or linked correctly to the system files. As far as I know, the "worst" thing that could happen by dirty flashing is an unrelenting boot-loop. In those cases, you should just do a full system wipe and re-install the ROM.
I recommend, as Micmars does, a full system wipe prior to installing any ROM, but to each their own.
Typically, ROMs do not install different modems. As far as the MJ4 vs. NAB vs. NC5, here's a little primer on the various versions:
MJ4
This was the last Jellybean TW released for the Sprint Note 3. If you are on MJ4, you'll have to update your bootloader to NAB (or NC5) in order to update to KitKat ROMs (and you can't go back). The
NAB
This is the first KitKat TW ROM for the Sprint Note 3. Once on NAB, you can't go back down to Jellybean (yet... some people are working on it). You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
NC5
This is the second KitKat TW release for the Sprint Note 3. It introduced some updates to the system and it includes WiFi calling (I've never used it, but others say it's really nice). You can flash back and forth between NAB and NC5 ROMs as much as you want, without changing anything. You need to be on the NAB or NC5 bootloader in order to flash these ROMs.
As far as updating to NC5 ROMs, just look at the changelogs between the NAB and NC5 versions of the ROM. If the added/changed features look appealing to you (or it looks more stable), then by all means update.
As far as modems go, I always stick to the newest Modem, which always tend to work best for me (I'm in a large metropolitan area). Sometimes people will report that the older modems (MJ4 or NAB) work better in their area. The Modems are completely separate from the ROMs, so flashing an older (or newer) modem should not have any affect on the stability of the ROM. It's really up to you if you want to update it.
As far as bootloaders go, if you are already on KitKat ROMs, I'd recommend updating to the NC5 Engineering Bootloader, but as long as you're on NAB, you should be fine. Just make sure to read the OP of any ROM you flash, they typically will tell you what version of the bootloader you need to be on.
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How do you check if you're on the latest modem and/or how do you update to the latest modem?
The modem number is also part of the baseband number, here is the link to help you find it http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/
Eyezayah said:
I'm fully aware of how to flash roms, and the merits of not "dirty flashing". What I'm curious about is whether or not we can find, for example, an AT&T Note 3 Rom, flash it on our phone, then immediately after flash the Beastmode kernel for our Sprint variant, and be able to actually boot into the rom and not lose the important things like wifi connectivity or 4g connectivity. I remember with other phones I've had in the past we were able to do that, without any major issues.
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Maybe this XDA post will help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703229&page=2
jimzweb1 said:
Maybe this XDA post will help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703229&page=2
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So far that's the most helpful thread I've seen. I appreciate it. Might just take a risk and dive in and see what happens, but from that thread it looks like my best bet may be trying a Verizon rom, based on Verizon being CDMA also.
jimzweb1 said:
The modem number is also part of the baseband number, here is the link to help you find it [SNIP]
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As noted in a previous post, please avoid linking to sites that require registration, irrespective of the merits of the site.
Best to post links within xda, as nothing on that site isn't also freely available here on xda. It's not our job to port users to a site collecting their personal info using this community's voluminous user base for the benefit of any other than xda itself.
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micmars said:
As noted in a previous post, please avoid linking to sites that require registration, irrespective of the merits of the site.
Best to post links within xda, as nothing on that site isn't also freely available here on xda. It's not our job to port users to a site collecting their personal info using this community's voluminous user base for the benefit of any other than xda itself.
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Sorry about that micmars, I think I posted the two or three SamMoble links around the same time. I will use XDA links first in the future.
jimzweb1 said:
Sorry about that micmars, I think I posted the two or three SamMoble links around the same time. I will use XDA links first in the future.
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Nah, it's a terrific site. I think most Samsung users love the site.
I am glad we have it.
The desire to help us always a thing to be encouraged.
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jimzweb1 said:
Maybe this XDA post will help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703229&page=2
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I took the plunge and tried to install a T-Mobile rom, and it booted up fine, I could make phone and receive phone calls, could receive texts, but I couldn't send any. Not sure really what I would've needed to do to get texts working properly though so I went back to my nandroid. Tried following a guide to get the rom working on our carrier, and the rom wouldn't flash. Thanks for the help though, I appreciate it. Looks like I'll just stick with the Sprint Roms.

Unlocking 4.3

Hi..
I just lost a phone and Asurian Insurance company just sent me a new Note 2 for Verizon (I605) with stock rom 4.3.
My question is is there a way to unlock this phone and load the custom rom ?
If there is could anyone send me a link and detail instructions how to do it?
I have heard if someone is on 4.3 they are stuck and there is no way out until someone comes up with a way.
Please let me know if there is a way to unlock and load custom on rom 4.3.
Thank you
jimcho74 said:
Hi..
I just lost a phone and Asurian Insurance company just sent me a new Note 2 for Verizon (I605) with stock rom 4.3.
My question is is there a way to unlock this phone and load the custom rom ?
If there is could anyone send me a link and detail instructions how to do it?
I have heard if someone is on 4.3 they are stuck and there is no way out until someone comes up with a way.
Please let me know if there is a way to unlock and load custom on rom 4.3.
Thank you
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Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
BluGuy said:
Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
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Could I get a instruction link on how to root and load safestrap ?
I do have mj9 on my note 2.
I am used to odin but safestrap is new ti me.
thaks
BluGuy said:
Only way would be to send the phone to mobiletechvideos which cost.
There is also the option of safestrap which can be found under the development section. This doesn't unlock the bootloader, but let's you load some of the 4.3 based touchwiz roms. You have to root first before you can do that, and I have heard that saferoot works well. You also need to be on 4.3 mj9. There are 2 versions of 4.3 for this phone. If you are on the other version you can use Odin to flash the mj9 version.
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I just ran saferoot and it worked really well and very easy way to root the phone. (Thx BluGuy)
Now what custome rom should I install? and I just use the Odin to load the custom rom just like before?
What about the Custom recovery?
Do I need to install safestrap as well?
I need help...
Thanks
First stay away from flashing roms in odin while on 4.3 mj9 you will brick your phone. Second you can flash any 4.3 rom over the stock rom with safestrap but!!! Make sure its a rom that can be flashed with safestrap no room for error here be sure, remember this boot loader is locked so no flashing roms in the other rom slots they still need debugging
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need help with rom install requirements and opinions.. (helpful ones)

i loved the battery life of this rom, well really i just loved this rom... http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2567499 now when trying to install i get bootloops..its mj4 so is there a way i can go back to mj4?..on stock oc5 rooted/twrp recovery.. also does anybody recommend or know of a stripped down efficient rom like minimus that will work when on oc5?? thanks in advance.
i was told by a user to just flash mj4 and then flash rom, but i was told by a friend never to downgrade bootloader or modem as it would brick my n3. so now i guess im looking for direction...im on oc5 lollipop and want to flash above linked rom . has anybody done this successfully, i mean go from oc5 lollipop to mj4 minimus? thanks in advance for any helpful posts.
ryandaneri said:
i loved the battery life of this rom, well really i just loved this rom... http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2567499 now when trying to install i get bootloops..its mj4 so is there a way i can go back to mj4?..on stock oc5 rooted/twrp recovery.. also does anybody recommend or know of a stripped down efficient rom like minimus that will work when on oc5?? thanks in advance.
i was told by a user to just flash mj4 and then flash rom, but i was told by a friend never to downgrade bootloader or modem as it would brick my n3. so now i guess im looking for direction...im on oc5 lollipop and want to flash above linked rom . has anybody done this successfully, i mean go from oc5 lollipop to mj4 minimus? thanks in advance for any helpful posts.
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Sorry there is no way to go back. Once you upgrade to NC5 ( KitKat ) and beyond with KNOX as part of the OS. At this point on one has figured out how to go back to MJ4 and reset the KNOX counter. You can down grade from OC5 to ( NC5,NH7,and NK4 ) without to much trouble. Usually the device will bootloop on the first odin flash back when downgrade but just pull the battery and go to download mode and flash it again. Usually boots on the second flash of a down graded OS. I have post here somewhere on how to do it, will try to find it and post here. You can check out more info by clicking my signature.
You can read through this post to, will show you how to go back to ( NC5,NH7,and NK4 ) http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/help/4-4-4-download-mode-t2877528 tells how to get around the bootloops.

Found the MJ9 Radio

Not totally sure about this file, but looking inside of it, it has a modem, and the right name for an i605
I am going to give it a try, over the next week, will let you know how it goes.
Droid_Nut said:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19672761/toltevzw_mj9_official_firmware.tar.md5
Not totally sure about this file, but looking inside of it, it has a modem, and the right name for an i605
I am going to give it a try, over the next week, will let you know how it goes.
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that appears to not just be the radio but the upgrade to MJ9 firmware, there are separate radio only custom recovery flashable zips. The file you linked appears to be the ODIN update for firmware (this file was required to upgrade from jellybean to kitkat/lollipop).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225 (post #2, in context of that thread is good)
fallen00Sniper's repo of files (including the mj9 firmware and nd7 radio)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35087
His repo (radio & root folders) has all the files you should need AFTER returning to PRE-MJ9 stock (PRE MJ9 return to stick is important if you desire stock to retain the ability to unlock your bootloader for AOSP based roms like CyanogenMod, etc.)
read up, proceed with caution & good luck!
jheide44 said:
that appears to not just be the radio but the upgrade to MJ9 firmware, there are separate radio only custom recovery flashable zips. The file you linked appears to be the ODIN update for firmware (this file was required to upgrade from jellybean to kitkat/lollipop).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225 (post #2, in context of that thread is good)
fallen00Sniper's repo of files (including the mj9 firmware and nd7 radio)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35087
His repo (radio & root folders) has all the files you should need AFTER returning to PRE-MJ9 stock (PRE MJ9 return to stick is important if you desire stock to retain the ability to unlock your bootloader for AOSP based roms like CyanogenMod, etc.)
read up, proceed with caution & good luck!
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Thanks for catching that for me, I was looking for the MJ9 radio, because right now I am on Baseband VRAMC3, and I wanted to give this rom a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
I am coming for 4.1.2 so I thought I would have to install the MJ9 radio, I did not realize I could just install the ND7 radio instead?
So do I just need to install the custom rom and the radio from the fallen00sniper downloads, and can I do all of this with TWRP, or do I need to odin it?
Thanks!
So I put the ND7 radio in via TWRP in my 2 notes. Seems to be working fine so far. I realized I could not do this with odin as they are zipped.
Droid_Nut said:
Thanks for catching that for me, I was looking for the MJ9 radio, because right now I am on Baseband VRAMC3, and I wanted to give this rom a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
I am coming for 4.1.2 so I thought I would have to install the MJ9 radio, I did not realize I could just install the ND7 radio instead?
So do I just need to install the custom rom and the radio from the fallen00sniper downloads, and can I do all of this with TWRP, or do I need to odin it?
Thanks!
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Droid_Nut said:
So I put the ND7 radio in via TWRP in my 2 notes. Seems to be working fine so far. I realized I could not do this with odin as they are zipped.
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rule of thumb, you only feed odin .md5 files (and maybe the occasional .pit file, but the pit file is only used for a return to VRALJB stock clean slate scenario, for those of us with unlocked bootloaders)
to borrow a line from the battlestar galactica "All this has happened before. All this will all happen again". so instead of explaining i'll just provide a few links to good reading material.
to upgrade your i605 to the KitKat/Lollipop world, you will need that MJ9 firmware update installed via odin... just unzip it to get the MD5 file.
Instructions on how to get MJ9 firmware update via ODIN (AOSP Root/Unlocked Bootloader friendly):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2598225
Note: you have to unzip the file to get the .md5 file to feed odin... AFTER reading the link above, a picture is worth 1000 words, please see the attached image for what ODIN should look like after this upgrade.
EDIT: oops you are already on TWRP, skip this paragraph
FWIW, I've always been a CWM recovery guy (since the SCH-i510 days)... on my i605 i used Philz. My current understanding is that TWRP is the way to go now, here are a few links to get you started. (clockwork mod is no longer in the custom recovery business.)
TWRP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045829
http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/133/
I will not tell you what rom to use, but for me after graduation from TW based roms to AOSP/CM roms, my next logical progression was into the Nexus 6 world. it works on VZW, and the radios leave my options open.
my Favorite AOSP Roms (assuming you, or any reader, is not in a safe strap touchwiz rom only situation):
after using the offical CM roms from sbrissen for CM11, I migrated to wilson3q's CM12.1 ROM
[ROM][5.1.1][CM12.1][SABER][20151123] Unofficial Build - i605 ***FASTER***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-unofficial-build-i605-t3069506
Disclaimer:
of course, YMMV, hack at your own risk, i'm just a crazy guy from the internet (listening to me could break your phone and ruin your life), etc.
jheide44 thanks for all the info, I am currently sporting 2, Note 2's with CM12.1, one for biz, and one for personal. The Note 2 forum is getting quieter as the phone slips into extinction.
I was going to try a custom touchwiz rom in hopes that the Samsung software for my Galaxy Gear1 would not complain, but I doubt that is going to work, so I ordered a Sony 3 Android wear watch, hope it behaves well with CM12.1?
I am up to ND7 thanks to you and the links.
So is the Wilson CM rom faster than the official CM12.1? Might have to give that a try?
Take Care.
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jheide44 thanks for all the info, I am currently sporting 2, Note 2's with CM12.1, one for biz, and one for personal. The Note 2 forum is getting quieter as the phone slips into extinction.
I was going to try a custom touchwiz rom in hopes that the Samsung software for my Galaxy Gear1 would not complain, but I doubt that is going to work, so I ordered a Sony 3 Android wear watch, hope it behaves well with CM12.1?
I am up to ND7 thanks to you and the links.
So is the Wilson CM rom faster than the official CM12.1? Might have to give that a try?
Take Care.
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wilson's is the best imho
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