http://www.android.gs/new-lg-g3-android-4-4-2-update-for-verizon-users-enhances-device-performance/
It might "enhance device performance" some, but it sure seems to re-lock the boot loader so Bumped flashes no longer will work.
Looks like owners interested in non-stock firmware should avoid this update. Looks like Verizon users should avoid the LG G3 altogether, or switch to T-Mobile.
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Looks like people needed to delete their system update app off their phone after they rooted and bumped, but never did for some reason. Live and learn I guess
But you couldn't pay me to switch to t-mobile. Their service is awful where I live. Its cheap, but you get what you pay for.
People should just be patient though. The dev's will figure a workaround soon
All true and I am fortunately safe. I rooted with Stump to be able to freeze with TiBackupPro and made sure to freeze anything that could force an update from Verizon, because I am a long-long time grandfathered Unlimited Data customer. Now I can check, see there is an update, and ignore it happily.
I remember, with my first smartphone a Droid3, Verizon was able to get Motorola to produce an OTA that did very little except keep owners from being able to ever go back to the previous firmware. Might have been to keep owners from unlocking to use the Droid3 on US T-Mobile or ATT GSM...
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All true and I am fortunately safe. I rooted with Stump to be able to freeze with TiBackupPro and made sure to freeze anything that could force an update from Verizon, because I am a long-long time grandfathered Unlimited Data customer. Now I can check, see there is an update, and ignore it happily.
I remember, with my first smartphone a Droid3, Verizon was able to get Motorola to produce an OTA that did very little except keep owners from being able to ever go back to the previous firmware. Might have been to keep owners from unlocking to use the Droid3 on US T-Mobile or ATT GSM...
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What does having unlimited data have to do with freezing VZW updates? You realize it is the plan and not your phone that determines the amount of data, right?
I just rooted ioroot, went to System Update app in app manager and all I eas able to do was force stop. Not even able to disable(greyed out).
Also, I noticed choppy behavior on some lwps. Does that have anything to do with rooting or just need to keep getting rid of bloat.
Not sure which deodexed rom to use. Any suggestions? Trying to use Rom Tookbox to customize.
Thank you to all of you.
Rich
*update- I just froze System Update via Rom Toolbox... I am curious what happens on their end when the update is not accepted.. Prob best to just wait a week or so, unroot, update, re-root.
I still don't know where the root checker is to see if it goes back to 0 before I update; nor can I locate the secret menu # to dial. for VS98510B
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What does having unlimited data have to do with freezing VZW updates? You realize it is the plan and not your phone that determines the amount of data, right?
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If I could no longer root this phone, or could no longer hope for development on it, I would need a different device to use with my grandfathered Verizon plan.
Prior to getting the LG G3, I was still using a collection of Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If the G3 gets "updated" by Verizon to the point where it's no longer possible to develop for, I may have to get rid of it and find a phone that will both use Verizon data, at least, and still be more open. Like the Motorola Nexus6, except it's too big and too expensive, for me.
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If I could no longer root this phone, or could no longer hope for development on it, I would need a different device to use with my grandfathered Verizon plan.
Prior to getting the LG G3, I was still using a collection of Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If the G3 gets "updated" by Verizon to the point where it's no longer possible to develop for, I may have to get rid of it and find a phone that will both use Verizon data, at least, and still be more open. Like the Motorola Nexus6, except it's too big and too expensive, for me.
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Yea I was thinking the same plus when android l hits more then likely it will lock the phone and btw has anyone tryed going into the hidden menu and disabling ota update?
Please use this thread for discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354
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I recently purchased a new Samsung Galaxy 4S for use on the Verizon network. I immediately installed Odin / CWP and flashed a couple of different ROMs to see which I might prefer. The issue I'm needing help with is that even when I select the network mode as LTE/CDMA I only seem to be getting the 3G wording in my cell's display. The phone has a 4G SIM card but to my knowledge none of this should be having an ill effect on the phones ability to connect to 4G. Any advice or suggestions?
Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Most don't care and pretend to not notice. Or they'll laugh and geek out with you. I wouldn't go in with anything AOSP based though. Choose something that looks close to stock. It's not likely they'll check your recovery. If you're that paranoid about it though, then just flash to stock but keep custom recovery. When you're finished in the store then restore a backup of your current preference.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Nah, all your asking for is a sim update. I work in mobile phones myself, and I love having convos with customers about their rooted phones and mods all the time.
I am having the same issues. I went in today on liquidsmooth and got a new sim no problem.. Only thing is, my phone still has the connectivity issues
I got a new SIM card from a Vzw store and now everything works great.
I think this is the first time I have posted, even though I have been using xda for years. Anyway I bought this LG G3 from Swappa and low and behold it has an unpaid bill tied to it and cannot be activated with Ting and I don't have a Sprint account. I have no need to activate it since I use WiFi for everything. So I decided to keep it since I got a good deal and didn't want to wait to return and buy another for $50 more. Right now I am stock and have not attempted to root the device. I have rooted every other phone I have had, due to the software being really bad or outdated. This is the first phone I have had every had where I actually like the stock ROM that came with it(probably because of Lolipop and LG really taking Googles design sense.
My problem is that even though I keep the device in Airplane mode with WiFi on, the device of course attempts to connect to a network every time I power on.(I have to click emergency call and then home) Also the Sprint Data optimizer is using about 20% of my battery, probably searching for service it will never find.
So my question is, If I do decide to root the device. What would be the best ROM to use for my situation of no service? I prefer Stock Roms unless AOSP has a remote control, which I don't believe it does. Also do I really need to care whether I am on zv8 or zv4 since I do not have a connection to a network?
Also. Is there anyway to possibly get T-Mobile service on the LG G3 Sprint Variant? Even if it is a slow data connection.
Thank you if anyone has any answers to any of my questions.
(Check other post)
You can flash this ROM for GSM and check HERE for the remote stuff and other mods and tweaks.
@Ry42025
How does everyone feel about att getting left out of the galaxy beta program? I already feel our root method is basically crippled and with the bootloader locked I'm considering a pixel as my next phone, but curious about the s8. Thoughts and opinions? I for one was excited to see Samsung s beta program right up until the blocked att...
I want to get the new pixel phone because of the locked bootloader but do not know about how to go about it as I am still paying for this phone monthly. I'm just hoping that this bootloader gets unlocked for nougat, I don't even need custom roms all I want is root with normal battery life.
I was excited about the beta program as well when I first read about it, but then AT&T had to ruin it for us. I just hope that does not mean that we'll have to wait longer than everyone else to get it when the final build is ready.
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There are instructions online on how to sideboard the beta but I have not tried it. It will load the F variant. Not sure how that will play out.
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There are instructions online on how to sideboard the beta but I have not tried it. It will load the F variant. Not sure how that will play out.
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where can I find them?
Idk if that works. Someone was asking about how to flash back since that soft bricked their phone.
Att always denies users the good stuff and takes forever with updates because they have to load them up with bloat crap.
joe3681 said:
Idk if that works. Someone was asking about how to flash back since that soft bricked their phone.
Att always denies users the good stuff and takes forever with updates because they have to load them up with bloat crap.
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I'm gonna let someone else try then...
The 930F has a different processor, probably why
If I get the beta I will upload the ota zip. There shouldn't be any reason you guys couldn't use it. I'm on tmobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/update-to-nougat-t3499909/page1
Verizon s7 flat ota.zip thread. Be careful
So it looks like a few people have done the verizon OTA to nougut, does anyone have any pro's or con's to using verizon vs tmobile with a 930a and att service? Also can anyone provide a step by step on changing the apn, I am concerned about what will and will not work since the fw is not designed for this carrier.
I am assuming that Volte and Wifi/Video Calling will NOT work, but obviously would be willing to be proven wrong.
Ive recently abandoned root and just applied a pixel launcher to the Nov. 1st update from ATT. If my phone wasnt company provided I would just get a Pixel already....
Thoughts?
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So it looks like a few people have done the verizon OTA to nougut, does anyone have any pro's or con's to using verizon vs tmobile with a 930a and att service? Also can anyone provide a step by step on changing the apn, I am concerned about what will and will not work since the fw is not designed for this carrier.
I am assuming that Volte and Wifi/Video Calling will NOT work, but obviously would be willing to be proven wrong.
Ive recently abandoned root and just applied a pixel launcher to the Nov. 1st update from ATT. If my phone wasnt company provided I would just get a Pixel already....
Thoughts?
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I flashed the nougat update from Verizon on my AT&T S7 so far everything looks okay I got internet to work just by updating the APN texting works calling MMS sometimes works sometimes doesn't. Only thing I noticed is that lost band 17 which normally I have here where I live and now it's connected to band 4 so I'm between H+ and LTE
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I flashed the nougat update from Verizon on my AT&T S7 so far everything looks okay I got internet to work just by updating the APN texting works calling MMS sometimes works sometimes doesn't. Only thing I noticed is that lost band 17 which normally I have here where I live and now it's connected to band 4 so I'm between H+ and LTE
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Where did you find the PH1 FW for the 930V, I am only finding the 935V.
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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You'll get Verizon VoLTE -- but not Wi-Fi nor video calling.
Yes, you can have Verizon voicemail.
Those answers are based on the carrier unlocked LG G6 US997 released earlier this year, from people who have it and use Verizon. You should go over there and ask some questions. That will be the best predictor of the LG V30 US998.
I pasted some of the answers from actual users below.
jiggyman said:
I received mine and activated it yesterday. VoLTE works perfectly. No Video/WiFi Calling though. I love this phone! No bloatware!
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VOICEMAIL
gillim74 said:
How do you get verizon vm working on the us997 everytuing else works but vm
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Getting unlocked phones working on Verizon is still more difficult than it should be. Hypothesis: reps at the local stores don't get a commission on unlocked activations and do get commissions on carrier phones. If you want to avoid technical stuff suggest calling Verizon and threatening to switch to T-Mobile if they can't get it to work, do not go to local stores.
Regarding voicemail, I went with youmail from the play store. You might also be able to get the Verizon voicemail app working, I did not try that since I do not want any lame carrier apps on the device.
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gillim74 said:
Thanks for the response.got it working after calling verizon!!
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What did you have to do to get the VVM working on VZW? Thanks.
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Had to call them and have them reset the network
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I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Regarding the fm radio. My Verizon branded G6 has the fm radio enabled, you just need to plug in headphones. It works with NextRadio and the LG radio app that I know of. The Verizon version needed files pulled and edited from xda forums to get LG's app working as it does not come with it preinstalled. It wasn't hard to install. An install of NextRadio from the play store just worked. The unlocked version probably includes the LG fm app. NextRadio is pretty snazzy, while the LG App is pretty bland and basic.
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
ChazzMatt said:
Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
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LOL.... trust me. viper4android, hotspots, trying all sorts of mods, and yes messing with kernels, changing OS every other week... battery life will get shot... every time, so yes it will... just comes with the territory.
regardless of how you try to fine tune the kernel to conserve. but I'm ok with all of it. I will just be bummed not to get the $200 card and the VR thing. So I guess I have to decide in the next 6 days how important hotspot is vs $300 worth of stuff.
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I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
wonderrx said:
Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
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no. it did not. I'm jimmy rigging it by using the wifi extender to trick the hotspot to working but it requires that you connect to a wifi first. data isn't needed on the connect. it's hokey but works almost all the time. so I am now content. LG disabler squashed everything else so the phone is pretty snappy.
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
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Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
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I have friends who are required to have carrier-branded phones and who cannot root. That's a well written post I'll share with them.
As for color choice I'm hoping LG will sell us the "open market" US988 in black V30+ configuration (or V30+ at all), but I'm becoming skeptical.
Interesting counterpoint, al4d.
There's also the matter of OS update timeliness. And security updates -- do they ever come from the the manufacturer? It seems like only carrier-specific releases get the media buzz.
Lastly, I'm sort of holding out for the Oreo release, just to ensure LG put all their best efforts into it. It would be a shame if 8.0 lands and it's a half-baked mess full of bugs.
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
When I hacked from US998 to VS996, I saw there were more "bars" being shown. Note, however, that "bars" can be changed to reflect different signal levels, so it may not actually be getting more/less signal. If I were careful, I would have looked at the numeric signal, but I missed checking that.
I'm running VS996 on our phones now, partly because of the VoLTE support as well... and all of that is working, so that's good.
I don't think you can flash just a "modem"... but I am interested to hear if this can be done...
Diego1751 said:
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
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Oreo now locks you out of APN settings (it knows what best, supposedly) but you can use an app Shortcut Master or Shortcut Master Lite to manually edit APN settings. Here's how to edit APN using that app. Of course that is NOT the V30 -- but it's still the same technique, and you would want to populate with your own APN information, not what they are using for their carrier. Here are instructions for Verizon on LG V30, at least for MMS.
As for modems, I know there are AT&T and Sprint TWRP flashable modems posted, but not sure about Verizon. You can fire up LGUP and manually flash VS996 modem partitions via DL Partition method, if you want to try that modem. Just UNcheck all partitions except for modems.
My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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I have the Google store version of the pro 6, on Verizon, and using Google build. I have on all of my Pixel phones.
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Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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First, they are not built by Verizon they are built by Google with different modem/network items for Verizon. That is the only difference, no extra apps or anything like that. As soon as you put a VZ SIM in it you will pull the My Verizon app no matter what firmware you are using. You can uninstall it. The updates all come from Google, not the carrier.
Go to the Google factory image download page and look at the Pixel 5 downloads. You will see in March of 2021 there was only one image for everything and it was that way for months. Then this fall they split apart. This is very common, Google splits them for awhile then merges them.
The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that. But might give you a better signal.
What you want to do will work but isn't needed and probably not the best way to do it.
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The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that.
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Thanks... one concern is that I'm coming from a Samsung and on this phone, Verizon forces OTAs. You can delay when the update happens but only briefly. This is a VZW phone, not unlocked, but I figured the VZW firmware is pushing the updates.
Updating requires re-rooting so I'd prefer to do it on my schedule, not Verizon's. Do you know if this is going to be an issue with the Pixel?
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First, they are not built by Verizon they are built by Google with different modem/network items for Verizon. That is the only difference, no extra apps or anything like that. As soon as you put a VZ SIM in it you will pull the My Verizon app no matter what firmware you are using. You can uninstall it. The updates all come from Google, not the carrier.
Go to the Google factory image download page and look at the Pixel 5 downloads. You will see in March of 2021 there was only one image for everything and it was that way for months. Then this fall they split apart. This is very common, Google splits them for awhile then merges them.
The VZ version will not lock your phone, add any bloatware or anything like that. But might give you a better signal.
What you want to do will work but isn't needed and probably not the best way to do it.
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One further thing Verizon puts on. Under "all apps" - show system - scroll down for the "my verizon services" app. You can't delete it you can only stop and disable it. It does get reenabled on some schedule, perhaps on the monthly updates, so every once in a while you need to redo the disable thing. What it does it allows Verizon to get into your phone and see all the apps you have installed and when you installed them. Also how long your system has been running, whether or not you factory reset etc. Very intrusive, imo, so I always disable it first thing and check it regularly.
aurny said:
Updating requires re-rooting so I'd prefer to do it on my schedule, not Verizon's. Do you know if this is going to be an issue with the
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Once you are rooted updates will fail to install, so there won't be any surprises.
TonikJDK said:
Once you are rooted updates will fail to install, so there won't be any surprises.
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Hmm, are you sure about this? That would be fine, but in the root thread it says in big bold letters:
AUTOMATIC OTA WILL LOSE ROOT AND REQUIRE A WIPE TO ROOT AGAIN.
Hey folks, if anyone has access to system directory of Android 12, could you upload Google Sans fonts here?
aurny said:
My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qglwf3
These instructions worked perfectly to get esim working.
I'm using the Verizon firmware on the unlocked model. Wifi calling works and all.
I didn't get the QR code but the Reddit thread has a link for one on step 7. And my account was already CDMAless because of using a 1+ 7 Pro prior.
It took about 5-10 minutes after doing everything before I could make calls and send texts.
Idk if wifi calling works on unlocked firmware but it's enabled by a Verizon specific system app, com.verizon.mips.services
Edit. Idk why the link has a screenshot preview.
Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
Awesome, @TotallyAnxious and @Sunsparc, thank you both.
aurny said:
My Pixel 6 hasn't arrived yet but hopefully soon. I'm getting the unlocked version and I'm a Verizon customer. My plan is to root the phone and stay on the Google builds. I don't plan to install the Verizon build. I don't want anything from Verizon except the SIM card (which I already have and plan to transfer from my previous phone).
I've heard some reports of this not working though, of intermittent or no connectivity from Verizon. Some people on other forums report that they need to go to a store for a SIM swap, or switch to eSIM, but even that only works for a while and then it drops again.
Does anyone here have more info? Is this expected to work or does Verizon have a way to force you to use their builds?
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Well I'm not quite an identical situation but I'm using visible. And from what I've seen from Sears, we encounter the exact same problems as it's the same parent company. It worked instantly out of the box as soon as I pop my SIM card in on my unlocked Pixel (Global) 6 Pro. No issues at all.
However, as you're probably well aware, test builds with other games don't work. Oxygen OS 12 beta 1/2 for example, would not work with visible or Verizon Even when I put in the correct commonly unknown APN settings (There's actually four of them).
how did you root it?
Sunsparc said:
Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
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trai_th said:
how did you root it?
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[CLOSED] Firmware is out! Get your root on!
Update 12/15/21: Magisk 23016 incorporates fixes for vbmeta header patching; disabling verity/verification is no longer necessary. Update and root should work as it always has - simply patch and flash the boot image. Any update method can be...
forum.xda-developers.com
trai_th said:
how did you root it?
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i used boot.img extract from Pixel image file and patched it on my poco x3. I don't know why i can't do it on P6 but i got te pached file then copy it to P6. then followed up the link i provided above until i got to the flashing vbmeta, using a command from that link. After i got it then i fastboot boot magisk_patched then boot into my phone. After then go to Magisk Manager, at first i have no "Direct install" so i tried to flash it in fastboot mode again. then i hot it. once i turn on the phone, the direct install was thete then i used that method to permanently rooted. hope it helps.
Sunsparc said:
Mine didn't require any special provisioning. Running Google version of firmware. Unlocked bootloader, rooted, then inserted SIM from previous 2 XL.
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Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
Superguy said:
Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
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I don't think you can unlock the bl on the Verizon hardware. But you CAN buy an unlocked phone and put the Verizon firmware on it.
Superguy said:
Did you get the Verizon or unlocked version? If Verizon, how did you unlock the bootloader?
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Unlocked. I always buy unlocked.
I just recently paid of my Verizon Pixel 4 XL and called Verizon to see if they could unlock the bootloader. After about an hour and speaking with Tier 2 tech support, I was informed that the bootloader is locked forever and was recommended to buy directly from Google if you need to unlock the bootloader.
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I just recently paid of my Verizon Pixel 4 XL and called Verizon to see if they could unlock the bootloader. After about an hour and speaking with Tier 2 tech support, I was informed that the bootloader is locked forever and was recommended to buy directly from Google if you need to unlock the bootloader.
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You could have come here and been told the same thing in under a minute and saved yourself the time and effort. It's common knowledge since Pixel 3. Hopefully your information will help someone else out.