Gear S GPS Does Not work when not connected to phone ?? - Samsung Gear S

[UPDATE 20141115] I tried GPS again from my last update, and I'm happy to report that it works for the S-Health app at least, and I can see my route etc even when the phone is not bluetooth connected. I don't know why it doesn't work for Here though. ROM is BNJC, Malaysia.
[UPDATE 20141108] So it looks like my unit, and some of those from Malaysia have a problem. Time for service center visit. I'll try to update on this.
Thanks to all who the new owners who have posted.
Hi all,
As I reported in my 2 reviews, I found that the GPS does not work when it is not connected via bluetooth to the phone. I asked members from my home forum to test it out, and 2 reported the same thing.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3392810&view=findpost&p=71238465
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3392810&view=findpost&p=71239757
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3392810&view=findpost&p=71241325
I have a 3G SIM in my phone, and it shows Connected Remotely on both the Gear S and my Note 4. GPS DOES NOT WORK.
I checked the manual, downloaded from here:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/wearables/gear/SM-R7500ZKABTU
or direct link:
http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.c...93/SM-R750_UM_EU_Tizen_Eng_Rev.1.0_140926.pdf
Below lists all the pages I found which describe usage of the GPS. None of them state that the Gear S cannot perform a lock when it is not connected via bluetooth to your phone.
Can any XDA members test this out to confirm ?
If so, this is a serious omission on the part of Samsung on the fitness for purpose of this device, and they are marketing this without stating the facts or limitations.
Your comments are welcome.
On page 55, it says
The Gear’s GPS feature is used to check information, such as altitude and speed,
when you are cycling or hiking. When the Gear and the mobile device are
connected, the Gear uses the mobile device’s GPS feature. To use the mobile
device’s GPS feature on the Gear, the devices must be connected via Bluetooth.
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It DOES NOT SAY that you MUST be paired to use the Gear S' GPS.
Page 64 & 65 describes the Navigator or HERE app. It makes no mention of the GPS.
Page 68 describes the Weather app
When the Gear is not connected to the mobile device via Bluetooth, the Gear updates
the weather information using the Gear’s GPS feature.
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Page 75 describes the Location checkbox in Settings
Set the Gear to allow apps to use your current location information.
On the Settings screen, tap Connections and tick Location.
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I can confirm that it works WITHOUT a paired phone. I paired it last week with a Galaxy Alpha in a store (because it doesn't work with my Tab S so far ) and then I went a few miles and opened "Here for gear" - after a few seconds (you have to be outside) I had a GPS fix. It also worked today when I tested it with Nike+, which requires a GPS signal.

Cyman said:
I can confirm that it works WITHOUT a paired phone. I paired it last week with a Galaxy Alpha in a store (because it doesn't work with my Tab S so far ) and then I went a few miles and opened "Here for gear" - after a few seconds (you have to be outside) I had a GPS fix. It also worked today when I tested it with Nike+, which requires a GPS signal.
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This is very strange. Maybe we need more people around the world to test.
I am in Malaysia.

I have a pre-order in the UK that should dispatch on Friday - Once I have it I will try it out. Anyone have one in the UK yet?

Cyman said:
It also worked today when I tested it with Nike+, which requires a GPS signal.
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Cyman, would you please test the battery life using the Gear S with GPS/Nike+ while listening to music via Bluetooth while not connected to a phone (i.e. as a standalone device)?
Thanks!

Battery test
craigkahn said:
Cyman, would you please test the battery life using the Gear S with GPS/Nike+ while listening to music via Bluetooth while not connected to a phone (i.e. as a standalone device)?
Thanks!
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As expected, the battery runs down fast. I went on running with around 50% of battery - I went for about 40 minutes and listened to music via bluetooth. In the end I had around 10% left. So I assume, you can run approx 2 hours with battery fully loaded.

Cyman said:
As expected, the battery runs down fast. I went on running with around 50% of battery - I went for about 40 minutes and listened to music via bluetooth. In the end I had around 10% left. So I assume, you can run approx 2 hours with battery fully loaded.
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Thanks for checking. It's unfortunate that Samsung decided to put such a small battery in the Gear S.

Cyman said:
As expected, the battery runs down fast. I went on running with around 50% of battery - I went for about 40 minutes and listened to music via bluetooth. In the end I had around 10% left. So I assume, you can run approx 2 hours with battery fully loaded.
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Based on my initial usage, I made the same estimate for GPS use. Thanks for confirming.
I guess you were running without the paired phone?
craigkahn said:
Thanks for checking. It's unfortunate that Samsung decided to put such a small battery in the Gear S.
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The last part of the manual surprisingly shows disassembly instructions. Based on the diagram, Samsung has put in the largest possible battery based on current technology. Any larger and the Gear S would be actually ugly.

UPDATE:
Another report that the GPS is not working when NOT paired via bluetooth to the phone
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3392810&view=findpost&p=71275502
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3392810&view=findpost&p=71278255
Is this some kind of regional allocation issue???

Yes I went running without a phone, connected to 3G. @joytest: Maybe you're on an old firmware. I've seen on sammobile, that there is a new one out for Malaysia...

I am on the latest BNJC firmware as of 3 days ago when I had to factory reset the Gear S when tethering to my Note 4.
Only thing to try is maybe uncheck the Location check box in Settings > Connections. I have always left it checked.

I want it to use the built-in GPS in the watch even if it IS connected via bluetooth to my phone. Because when I am in London, I find if the phone is in my pocket, the GPS reception is no good for navigation. Therefore if the GPS is in the watch I can still get guidance directions when my phone is in the pocket. So they should give you the option of which GPS is used!

Maybe because the Gear S has A-GPS and not GPS. From these links:
http://samsungmobileuspress.com/201...ables-Market,-Brings-Gear-S-to-U.S.-Next-Week
The Gear S is equipped with several sensors, including an accelerometer, UV sensor, barometer, heart rate monitor, GPS and an IP67 rating for dust- and water-resistance
Connectivity: A-GPS/Glonass
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/loca...ear-s-enhancing-the-smart-wearable-experience
Connectivity: WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n, A-GPS/Glonass
Ok, now that we have that out of the way, if I know A-GPS like I think I do, it means that you need network connectivity. So I assume the people that have GPS working standalone is because they have a SIM card with a Data connection. The people that have their Gear S standalone where GPS doesn't work because you don't have a SIM with a Data connection.
I think Samsung pulled the wool over our eyes, but to me A-GPS is not the same as GPS. Technically any phone that takes a SIM card and has Data can have A-GPS without any special hardware. They are getting location triangulation from cell towers. This also means that it is not as accurate as true GPS. I think many will be disappointed about this news. Going to hide now.

segura.org said:
I think Samsung pulled the wool over our eyes, but to me A-GPS is not the same as GPS. Technically any phone that takes a SIM card and has Data can have A-GPS without any special hardware. They are getting location triangulation from cell towers. This also means that it is not as accurate as true GPS. I think many will be disappointed about this news. Going to hide now.
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A-GPS definitely isn't the same as GPS, but Glonass is, so it should work without a phone.

Toss3 said:
A-GPS definitely isn't the same as GPS, but Glonass is, so it should work without a phone.
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Yes, it should be quite accurate.
A-GPS + Glonass should make the accuracy much better - As long as we keep Putin happy and he doesn't turn off his satellites

segura.org said:
Maybe because the Gear S has A-GPS and not GPS. From these links:
http://samsungmobileuspress.com/201...ables-Market,-Brings-Gear-S-to-U.S.-Next-Week
The Gear S is equipped with several sensors, including an accelerometer, UV sensor, barometer, heart rate monitor, GPS and an IP67 rating for dust- and water-resistance
Connectivity: A-GPS/Glonass
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/loca...ear-s-enhancing-the-smart-wearable-experience
Connectivity: WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n, A-GPS/Glonass
Ok, now that we have that out of the way, if I know A-GPS like I think I do, it means that you need network connectivity. So I assume the people that have GPS working standalone is because they have a SIM card with a Data connection. The people that have their Gear S standalone where GPS doesn't work because you don't have a SIM with a Data connection.
I think Samsung pulled the wool over our eyes, but to me A-GPS is not the same as GPS. Technically any phone that takes a SIM card and has Data can have A-GPS without any special hardware. They are getting location triangulation from cell towers. This also means that it is not as accurate as true GPS. I think many will be disappointed about this news. Going to hide now.
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It does have full GPS according to
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/wearables/gear/SM-R7500ZWABTU
Scroll down to the specs and it just says "GPS/Glonass" not A-GPS
You are right that A-GPS is using positional information based on cell towers rather than satellites. It is often used to help GPS get a quicker lock as it helps the device get a rough idea of where it is, which then allows it go online, look-up which satellites should be orbiting and their coordinates. This means a lock can be reduced from 60 seconds down to 5.
I don't expect Samsung has done a naughty thing here, because the chip used for the radio these days incorporates all these things into a single module (i.e. Mobile radio, Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS etc)

Anyone else able to test the gps?
I got a report from my home forum that his gps works without a phone. This sounds like a problem.
I have tested with Location unchecked, it won't work. The app will ask to turn it on anyway.
I have a data SIM and it is also remotely connected via 3G to my Note4, therefore A-GPS should work in my case.
It seems like there is a batch with faulty GPS.
Once more people in XDA confirm I will bring it to the service center.

joytest said:
Anyone else able to test the gps?
I got a report from my home forum that his gps works without a phone. This sounds like a problem.
I have tested with Location unchecked, it won't work. The app will ask to turn it on anyway.
I have a data SIM and it is also remotely connected via 3G to my Note4, therefore A-GPS should work in my case.
It seems like there is a batch with faulty GPS.
Once more people in XDA confirm I will bring it to the service center.
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I should have the watch today if the courier does their job and I will report back on this.

jonstatt said:
I should have the watch today if the courier does their job and I will report back on this.
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I got the watch and tried it. There is definitely real GPS built-in. I was able to use the Weather application while the phone was switched off, and it got a lock on where I was and gave me weather for my town. I also tried the "Here" map application with no phone connected and it came up with my street on the display. I also found you can download the maps offline and use the watch as a navigator without the phone at all, exactly as I would like to see. The one thing I haven't validated yet, but I am fairly sure will be the case, is that if the phone is connected, you don't get a choice whether it uses the phone GPS or the watch one.....we will see

jonstatt said:
I got the watch and tried it. There is definitely real GPS built-in. I was able to use the Weather application while the phone was switched off, and it got a lock on where I was and gave me weather for my town. I also tried the "Here" map application with no phone connected and it came up with my street on the display. I also found you can download the maps offline and use the watch as a navigator without the phone at all, exactly as I would like to see. The one thing I haven't validated yet, but I am fairly sure will be the case, is that if the phone is connected, you don't get a choice whether it uses the phone GPS or the watch one.....we will see
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Co-sign this. Did almost the same things. I got a lock with location as well.
Sent from my SM-T807P

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GPS no signal in Frankfurt

Hello, I am currently living in Frankfurt and I am trying to make GPS work but with no success, not even with footprints! I get no signal anywhere!! I used the GPS in Meinz successfully but I cannot use it in Frankfurt... I tried to run quickGPS first and then the GPS program or footprints but I can never get signal...
I am using this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721438&highlight=naked
the 23569 built.
If you have any ideas please tell me
Thank you
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
No GPS
I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
Wilco said:
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
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well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
Ross202 said:
I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
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Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
jardan said:
well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
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Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
Wilco said:
Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
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well, I havent used copilot because it is not in this rom. I run the HTC gps tool and there are many satellites available, but I get an Mode 2: Fix not available. I have no idea what it means and I couldnt find anything in google. also I get a message "failed to send NMEA command.." and I also cantfind anything. under information tab, besides the "mode 2" message everything else is 0. under satellite tab there are many red dots representing satellites. what else should I look?
port is 4 and baud is 4800.
I will try it also tomorrow in open space.
The red dots come from QUICKGPS.
These are the locations where the satelites should be.
The fact they are red means none have been detected / fixed
The signal 0 in combination with red dots means: GPS cannot detect any satelites.
I was hoping you would have at least 1 or 2 "green" or at least signals.
I can only see two possibilities:
Reception is very, very bad (since you mention beeing in hotel, putting near window can help, dut does not nessesarily help as windows can have special coatings, or there is to much interference from WAN/GSM/UMTS (and the likes)traffic)
You could go outside, preferably to a park or big terrace where the buildings are somewhat more spaced, and check again.
If everything still remains red, 0 signal there is a possibility your GPS Unit does not work (properly) (bad antenna connection eg)
You really need to try on a few places. If possible go to the country and check how many satelites can be fixed there, if in the open you als get a minimal fix (lots of sattelites staying red, no signal) Your GPS Unit probably works badly.
(eg: if antenna is bad/disconnected, you probably will get some sat fixes, but not all)
Good luck trying.
you are right, I tried it outside and it is working. I dont know if HTC GPS tool did something, because before I installed it GPS was not working. Now, when I am at the street it works, but it doesnt not work in my hotel room or inside any other building, which is strange, because in Meinz it worked in the house.. Anyway, thank you for your help!

[Q] Is the GPS working right?

I had the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant (American Version) and I loved it! However I was never able to use the GPS functions. It was kinda annoying but the phone was worth it.
I am thinking about getting the new version but this time I NEED the GPS to be working well. I have been trying to find info about it but I am still not able to find the right info.
I am playing Golf and I just started a course to get my Driver License so it will be nice to have something to guide me around places that I dunno .
Cheers!
Coniglio said:
I had the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant (American Version) and I loved it! However I was never able to use the GPS functions. It was kinda annoying but the phone was worth it.
I am thinking about getting the new version but this time I NEED the GPS to be working well. I have been trying to find info about it but I am still not able to find the right info.
I am playing Golf and I just started a course to get my Driver License so it will be nice to have something to guide me around places that I dunno .
Cheers!
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yes the gps need few moments to lock in. after first lock its only need an about 5-6 sec to relog again. No issues at all with GPS - its working perfect. if u will have the phone and u will search for gps navigation send me a pm and i may have something for u (sygic). u cant go wrong with this device
Well I had the Galaxy I and it was so bad I returned it after a month. I've been testing the Galaxy II for 3 days now and so far all the GPS tracks I've recorded have been pretty good. It appears to hold on to locks quite decently (unlike the SGS 1) and is a lot more accurate.
It's no reference GPS unit and no geocaching wonder, but it appers to be good enough for driving navigation and pretty "common usage", which is a lot better than the Galaxy I, a GPS disaster.
mine isnt very good!!
i get 20 meter accuracy with a-gps where at the same time my friends Arc gets 5-7 meter accuracy with gps only
Very good no complaints .
jje
dudi1986 said:
mine isnt very good!!
i get 20 meter accuracy with a-gps where at the same time my friends Arc gets 5-7 meter accuracy with gps only
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Same problem.
Normally, my SGS2 gets 8-20m accuracy while HTC phones get <5m always.
Thanks guys! I have got myself this beauty about 2 hours ago. I have tried the maps app and its working. So far only with a crappy wifi signal and with my 3Gs connection that seems to be working kinda odd (it goes off and on and then for a while it appears and H as internet connection).
So far with the crappy wifi connection (about 50 meters away in another building) I am getting a lock with 30-40 meters. And with the 3Gs was the same however, the connection keeps changing to H while trying to get a lock. I have tried just about 3 mins ago with 3gs and I was only getting 800 meters .
So it seems ok but completly perfect. if I start to get locks over 50mts I should exchange the phone, right?
Cheers
whats the "Use sensor aiding" for? Does it helps? or its useless ?
Coniglio said:
whats the "Use sensor aiding" for? Does it helps? or its useless ?
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I think it uses Wifi + GSM network to help triangulate
Micksta said:
I think it uses Wifi + GSM network to help triangulate
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So, that´s a "Its good, leave it on as well"? LOL hihih
thanks

[Q] GPS in next sammy gen? will agps be needed still?

i never had a galaxy S so now idea how bad that really was, but it does kinda suck when you need gps and have to have data on to get a lock in a shortish manner (mainly on holiday where i have no data allowance).
any chance that process tech (nodes etc) will have matured to the point where we can have a dedicated gps received in our phones of the quality of what you can get in a tom tom or whatever? no data needed at all to work?
i ask since i use gps on holidays via jogtracker to track where i've been and the train/bus/plane journies from A to B. very cool to look at after the fact - zoom in - and see what you were passing at the time
Well, you could go tell the US government to go modify their satellite so they transfer GPS almanac faster to your device.
Otherwise no, you'll need to get the info from somewhere, either from data network or the satellites themselves.
what? it's nothing to do with the satellites. get a tom tom and they lock on within 30 secs. get an sgs2 without data and it will lock on within 30 seconds, upto 5+ minutes, same with my old desire.
the "get the info from somewhere" line? it comes from the gps sats.
Well it was a joke, but looks like you didn't it. So to simplify the answer:
NO
The answer keeps being NO, but I'm gonna explain a bit further:
First time you boot a Tom Tom, it can stay anything from 5 to 10 minutes out in the sun to catch the goddamn GPS signal. Which is the average time for any GPS to get proper signal the standard manner. What happens the next time? Well, your tom has already the GPS data cached, so unless you move very far from the last point you connected the GPS, it will catch it rather fast (because it's asuming it stays in the same location).
With Android the results are rather mixed. I believe the caching part is done per app basis, which means maybe an app will get a fast lock provided you used it recently, and some other apps may really take the 5 minutes to get the proper location without any aid.
I think an standarized cache in android for any app using the GPS could be a good idea.
But that's my thought.
AGPS is also used as a signal booster in areas of low GPS signal .
Phone GPS does not need AGPS to work .
jje
Also, smartphones generally have weaker GPS antennas than dedicated navigation devices -- a good GPS antenna requires space, something that's at a premium in a smartphone. There are probably also RF issues to contend with.
So a smartphone is more likely to have a poor GPS signal and thus require help from other technologies like AGPS.
than you to the last 3 posters for providing useful responses
As reference, my SGS1 had terrible GPS. If I had no data and I wasn't using wireless networks to help pinpoint my location, the GPS sat would never find me.
In comparison, my SGS2 can usually get a lock on me within 30 seconds without data/wifi on and no assitance from wireless networks.
It may not be as fast or as reliable as a dedicated GPS unit, but it gets the job done when I need to know where the flip i am.

Just received C3 serial Prime

Just received a new Prime today, serial is C3, I have not had time to do any extensive testing but I am pissed off to find dead pixels and white pixels so I guess ill be returning the unit until I get one with no damn spot on it, the lightbleeding the GPS doesnt bother me but dammit the dots are irritating!
I do not know if anyone else has a C3 model yet so before I return it in a few days please feel free to ask me any questions to compare it with the other models.
I had a C1 before.
Cheers!
How's the wifi?
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How's the wifi?
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Well in never had any real problems with it with my last unit but its fine right now no dropping or whatever.
Am gonna try go outside and see how far the signal can go and the strength and so on.
+1 on wifi check.
Depending on what type of internet connection you have but still, does it sseem to be better than your previous Prime ?
can you check wifi with streaming bluetooth?
I did not know there were different models. I got mine few days ago and it's C3.
I see that most people complain about wifi - it works fine for me, it has better range than my Galaxy S.
It has newest firmware in - dated 20-Feb I think. It rebooted itself twice for no reason, but apart from that everything works smoothly.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
I'm on my 3rd first had dead pixels and white spot (LCD mura) and 2nd had mura too. This or is fiber. All C2 serial..
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA Premium HD app
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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Now now.. Change that to "some of the primes"!
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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I'm happy with my prime purely for the fact that i got sick and tired of waiting for a decently powered android tablet, and the prime fits the bill in practically all areas apart from the for mentioned problems already discussed i.e. gps, wifi, wifi + bluetooth etc etc.........
usb to ethernet
-This was always a preference for me as i don't like leaving on my wifi for extended periods of time, just gotta wait till someone figures out how to hook the adapter to the tablet directly.
Saying that i like the fact that when i need wifi, i can log onto my router using the prime and turn it on and then remove the tablet from the dock, then, when im finished with the wifi, i turn it off, dock the tablet, and let it connect over ethernet automatically.....very nice
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
Saying that, i feel the same disgust as you my friend, were not apple fanbois fellas, stop acting like em.......if there are issues with the prime, ignoring them wont fix em, and what message will that send to asus..........."its alright guys, your next product is allowed to have defects"..............i don't thinks so
I got my C3 a couple of days ago. Other than the GPS that I knew was not going to work very well inside, if at all, its been working fine. It does work good outside though. Wifi is as good as any other devices I have on my network and range is the same as other devices. I haven't however tested it while using Bluetooth at the same time since I don't really use it that way.
As far as the screen I have no dead pixels and only the slightest light bleed at the top just below the camera. I didn't even notice it until I used the app for checking the screen for dead pixels. It is so small that I not sure I want to return it for another because like I said I don't even see under normal use.
I must say I was a little apprehensive about buying it because of all the threads here with some of the problems some of these have. Add in the fact there were none anywhere near me that I could play with first hand to see if I even would like the little thing it was a big leap of blind faith for me. But it was also the threads with the many happy would buy it again owners that conived me to go ahead buy it and I'm glad I did.
In short I'm happy with it. A buddy and I compared his new iPad(3) with my TP and the first words out of his mouth was WOW that is nice. There was also another iPad2 owner next to me and he was impressed with it too. This was in a place that has always had crappy wifi and I still managed to latch on to it.
I even applied my first hack to it yesterday the black hack for Notifications which really looks nice I think.
fasthair
banderos101 said:
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
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Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
This was not meant to be nor is it a 'trash the Prime thread' this was meant to be informative.
This has been working great for me so far... TF201+SGS
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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How is WiFi+Bluetooth working together, headset, speakers, streaming..?
C3 should have all the updates for hw that solve the isse, I hope.
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
banderos101 said:
Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
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Mine works fine, yes. Perhaps you need to disable gps on the Prime. Maybe it's getting confused?
I've also used "bluetooth gps mouse" (do a market search, there's a free version to see if it works for you) on the prime and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output on the phone. Maybe just need a different combination of software to get it working?
Oh, also, you need to enable the "Enable Mock GPS Provider" setting in Bluetooth GPS on the Prime. Otherwise it won't work at all.
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mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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I bought mine from cdon.no, I'm in Norway
mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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Just to add... I ordered mine online from Staples. Had it the next day with free shipping
fasthair

Gear S standalone location sharing

Hi to all!
I am using the Gear S as a standalone device (with it's own SIM card). It is remotely (through 3G wireless) connected to my Galaxy S4 mini which is setup with all accounts/apps I need for notifications.
I would very much love to have a way to share my location from the watch itself. Ideally I want to be able to find the watch through a web interface or even better an iOS app.
I know I can do it via the Gear Manager but it won't work for my needs, since the S4 mini is always at home (connected to my router).
I have seen the Glympse app exists for the Gear S and am going to give it a try later.
Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance!
gidi said:
Hi to all!
I am using the Gear S as a standalone device (with it's own SIM card). It is remotely (through 3G wireless) connected to my Galaxy S4 mini which is setup with all accounts/apps I need for notifications.
I would very much love to have a way to share my location from the watch itself. Ideally I want to be able to find the watch through a web interface or even better an iOS app.
I know I can do it via the Gear Manager but it won't work for my needs, since the S4 mini is always at home (connected to my router).
I have seen the Glympse app exists for the Gear S and am going to give it a try later.
Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance!
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question
how long does your battery last as a stand alone? im thinking of buying one.
vanpride64 said:
how long does your battery last as a stand alone? im thinking of buying one.
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You are in luck. First test was yesterday.
Standalone mode with 3G data ON, always paired to BT headset, Remote Connection ON, wake up gesture ON.
Everything else was OFF.
The battery died after about 7 hours.
In the meantime, i received quite a lot of notifications and saw them on the watch and also had about five short phonecalls (total time less than 8 mins).
Battery life is not good of course, but i suspect turning off data will have a huge impact.
Also a custom ROM with a CPU policy would help, if only on existed!!
Nevertheless, you have to remind yourself this is still a watch. So much crammed functionality eats the battery like crazy.
The feeling of not carrying a phone and still being (somewhat) connected though is priceless.

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