Updated 2/3/16 Master Download Link Added at Bottom of This Post For All Old and Current KDZ's
This method is confirmed working 100% for devices running 10b/11c/12b/23abc regardless of root/unlock state. While the .tot method is also working on Windows 7, users with Windows 8.1 are having difficulty using that method. Myself and @autoprime obtained a 10b KDZ file that has solved the issue for +10b updaters that couldn't flash back to 10b, so please send him some love for his help and for hosting the file on Team Codefire's servers for all to download. A big shout out to @quangnhut123 for creating the super sweet modified LG KDZ Flash Tool 2014 that makes KDZ flashing an absolute breeze!! He deserves some love as the previous KDZ flashing methods were anything but fun - especially on Windows 8. And another shout out to @deathsquad737 for initially testing the method for our device.
-Please this post and second post FULLY before asking questions!
-First remove any of the .tot flashing tools/programs that you may have already installed as they will conflict with the KDZ flashing tool.
-Download and install the latest LG drivers for your phone here (FYI I am linking the LG site directly instead of the file to ensure that you download the current up-to-date drivers): http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-VS985-Metallic-Black
-Download the VS985 10b KDZ: Downloads Located Below
-Download the LG Flash Tool 2014 from this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190 and be sure to thank @quangnhut123 for his efforts. Also read that thread a bit so you understand how to fully use the tool exactly, but I will outline the process below.
-Extract the .zip folder to wherever you wish to keep it (desktop, downloads, etc).
-Copy the 10b KDZ file (or whatever KDZ your flashing) into the LG Flash Tool folder
-Power off your phone completely, hold volume up, plug in the usb cable, wait for any drivers to load, and you should then be in Download Mode
-Run LGFlashTool2014.exe (you may need to run as administer as its not an installed program, rather an executed one from wherever you saved the folder).
-You may need to install Visual C++ Runtime Library. If so, refer to the LG Flash Tool thread for more info on obtaining that.
-Select CDMA as your type
-Select Diag as your phone mode
-Select your KDZ file that you copied or pasted into the folder
-Choose the option of CSE Flash (this is a full wipe, you will lose your data). Do not choose Normal Flash when performing a downgrade, nothing good will come from doing that!! Another screen will open, just leave everything the way it is.
-Click the Start button and yet another window will appear showing a language selection screen. Just leave everything the way it is as Korean and hit OK. Don't worry, the tool is already set to flash in English.
-Wait until the Flash is done 100% and unplug/reboot... and that's it - now enjoy your corrected mistake and stop taking OTA's!!!
KDZ files rock, and are nice and easy to flash. No separate DLL files or changing ports either with the tool linked. If any other KDZ files become available in the future I will add them to this post along with any tool or flashing method changes. This thread will be solely kept for KDZ flashing for the VS985. I will also help as much as I can if you run into trouble, though I am not a Windows expert and actually only boot into it when I have to run programs like this....Linux MInt FTW!!
~KDZ Downloads~
-VS98510b_01.kdz: http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/VS985 -Thanks to @autoprime
-Mirror for VS98510b_01.kdz (10b): https://mega.co.nz/#!7ERgXJbI!2KxATJt7q-HWvAPbTfVrT3wGuwPjWCw70N65MVlgfWg md5: d228ba692ef0c4704cba0b00fad8b8c
-VS98512b_00.kdz: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934537134 -Thanks to @hokiealumnus for the AFH hosting
-Mirror for VS98512b_00.kdz (12b): https://mega.co.nz/#!7AwylQiZ!vK6rumjP0r1eP7lN37oeJ_cWLwal1DnriGDPUZGW1-0 md5: e8280b279d327b96689579a9eca22a3e
New download link to all KDZ files thanks to @roirraW "edor" ehT https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35484
-For reference, here's @ins5736 thread for restoring using the .tot method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878 .
-Also there are reports of the tool deleting the KDZ you copied to the Flash Tool folder after the flash. I cannot confirm this, as it did not happen to me, but to be safe make sure you copy the file to the folder instead of pasting it so that you don't have to re-download the file for future use.
-Please note that the KDZ file we have is build # 10B.01, while the .tot file available is build # 10b.03. The only difference between the 2 files is that the .03 build is the actual released build that shipped with the phone, while the .01 kdz build was obviously a pre-released build. Its most likely some minor last minute changes/bloat added. We can't find any noticeable differences between the 2 builds.
-OTA's WILL FAIL USING THE 10b KDZ FILE WE HAVE due to a signing error with it being a pre-release. The purpose here is to downgrade, unlock, and flash whatever you want. This is NOT to return to an official stock state. You'll need to use the .tot file or the official LG Flash Tool that downloads the current build automatically in order to be in an official "stock" state. The 12b kdz is official and will allow OTA's
*Error Update* So with this leaked LP image, I've been playing with kdz'ing quite a bit and with a new Windows install I got to experience a few of the issues being reported by others that I have never seen, along with trying to troubleshoot some others. Did I manage to fix them easily you ask?? Hell yeah!
USB Disconnected Issue: This is a driver issue. Very easy fix, just download the latest Verizon drivers from the link I posted above and install them without phone plugged in. Power off phone, hold up, plug into usb and WAIT for download mode drivers to install (as stated several times in this thread). Click the balloon to watch the progress, this took about 10min on an i5/ssd machine - be patient. This is the predominant issue I think people are having. The drivers while in download mode are:
-USB Composite Device
-LGE Android phone or LGE AndroidNet for VZW USB Serial Port COM5 (this is the important one)
-CDC Serial or LGE AndroidNet for VZW USB Modem (this will fail if you are on a rom with certain VZW items removed - not a problem, its not needed)
-CDC ECM LGE AndroidNet for VZW NDIS Ethernet Adapter
If driver install fails, manually update them by pointing windows to the driver file you downloaded. I am not going any further here, use Google.
??????'s In The Field: easy, don't change region or language from Korean as stated in the OP. Leave it alone, it will flash in English I promise you. Result = all fields readable in English while running
Connection To Server Failed: Simple, ignore the window. Just drag it away, but don't close it. This is an offline hack originally indented to run online, deal with the window!
Progress Bar: The tool will initially analyze the phone, then when flashing starts, pay attention to the phone screen which will now say COM5. The blue progress bar on the phone is the important one. At around 80% on the tool screen, the phone will reboot. The flash is over and the bar will continue to progress into the 99% while rebooting - then the program will crash. You can disconnect now, you've been successful.
Thanks for the help and the new guide
WHATSAMATTA U ALUMNI
I'm getting a message saying "Path is too long or file problem" when adding the kdz. Any ideas?
droidiac13 said:
I'm getting a message saying "Path is too long or file problem" when adding the kdz. Any ideas?
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Sounds like your linking the file path instead of directly copying the file right into the folder. Also try checking the file md5 with this one for the 10b kdz file: d228ba692ef0c4704cba0b00fad8b8ce
Don't Forget To Remove Previous LG FlashTool
When I first tried the method I was receiving a message "Path is too long or file problem". So I read through the instructions again. I failed to remove the previous LG FlashTool I was using. Once I uninstalled that program, everything went through without a problem. Thanks annoyingduck!!
I keep getting this and I installed all drivers. Any ideas? Thanks
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kreep22 said:
I keep getting this and I installed all drivers. Any ideas? Thanks
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Some basics to check first:
-Were you in download mode before executing the program?
-When you initialized download mode, did you wait to allow the download mode drivers to load before hitting start?
-Were all steps followed?
-Check cable, and try another one (this is very often the cause)
-Change usb port
-Don't use a 3.0 port, use a 2.0
Thanks for this excellent guide, Duck. Very simple to follow, well laid out, etc. I haven't actually done it yet, but I've got everything in place to do so (the flash tool, the KDZ file in the folder, etc.)
I assume once the downgrade is successful, just reroot with Stump, etc and wait for updates via the community?
Will future updates be available via this flash tool, or will they have to be flashed via TWRP? Sorry, I'm just now getting used to the LG G3 dev community, coming from an old GNEX.
Thanks!
continued error when trying ota
I have a problem. I was originally rooted without a custom recovery. I decided to try the ota and got the error message when trying to install. I then flashed this method (kdz) and got back to stock. I rerooted via stump and tried the ota again, failure. I then rewiped and kdz again, this time I did not root. Tried the ota again, no dice.
Any thought? I can flash the kdz fine and get phone to factory 10b but once I try to install the ota I still get the error.
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I have a problem. I was originally rooted without a custom recovery. I decided to try the ota and got the error message when trying to install. I then flashed this method (kdz) and got back to stock. I rerooted via stump and tried the ota again, failure. I then rewiped and kdz again, this time I did not root. Tried the ota again, no dice.
Any thought? I can flash the kdz fine and get phone to factory 10b but once I try to install the ota I still get the error.
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That's odd... You chose cse flash, not normal correct? Normal would not wipe your device and could definitely be the culprit for the ota failing. While cse mode is a complete wipe prior to flashing.
Correct. I did cse, full wipe. I dont know what's going on. I tried atleast 10 times from scratch. I still cant get the ota to install.
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I have a problem. I was originally rooted without a custom recovery. I decided to try the ota and got the error message when trying to install. I then flashed this method (kdz) and got back to stock. I rerooted via stump and tried the ota again, failure. I then rewiped and kdz again, this time I did not root. Tried the ota again, no dice.
Any thought? I can flash the kdz fine and get phone to factory 10b but once I try to install the ota I still get the error.
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That's odd... You chose cse flash, not normal correct? Normal would not wipe your device and could definitely be the culprit for the ota failing. While cse mode is a complete wipe prior to flashing.
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After using the method here to downgrade back to 10b and root. I too wasn't able to then S/W update to 11c using survival mode in SuperSU. I perform the OP procedures again and this time didn't root and still wasn't able to S/W update, kept getting error. So I used ---> [GUIDE][HOW TO][VS985] Restore Verizon to Stock to go all the way back. I'm now able to S/W update to 11c and keep root with survival mode set in SuperSU. I most humbly say that there may be a very slight issue with maybe the files here. I truly do appreciate the ability to return to 10b using this method after updating in the first place!
Thanks, ill try the other method and report back. wish me luck. Either way, a huge thanks to duck for the easy way to rerturn. I just wish kdz worked for future ota. It may be a file issue allowing us to revert to 10b but not then allowing future updates.
Use the kdz method then factory reset the device and see if that works.
I tried that. No dice.
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Use the kdz method then factory reset the device and see if that works.
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I tried that as well.
gatorstew said:
Thanks for this excellent guide, Duck. Very simple to follow, well laid out, etc. I haven't actually done it yet, but I've got everything in place to do so (the flash tool, the KDZ file in the folder, etc.)
I assume once the downgrade is successful, just reroot with Stump, etc and wait for updates via the community?
Will future updates be available via this flash tool, or will they have to be flashed via TWRP? Sorry, I'm just now getting used to the LG G3 dev community, coming from an old GNEX.
Thanks!
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Sorry, I missed this question. Yes, any future kdz's that become available will be updated here, along with any changes in flashing methods. Though it's pretty hard to beat the current tool that's available.
And yes, the idea here is to downgrade to 10b and be able to root, unlock, and flash anything you want. Still unclear as to why some want to take the 11c ota, but that's for another thread. The kdz method here is working where the tot was failing for some, and I personally think it's faster and easier to do than the tot method.
The third step might be clarified. Do you mean something like, "Power off your phone completely, then turn power on while also holding the volume up button..."?
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The third step might be clarified. Do you mean something like, "Power off your phone completely, then turn power on while also holding the volume up button..."?
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You should probably try it before trying to correct it.....
Nope, power off phone completely, hold volume up ONLY, plug in usb cable...it will auto power on into download mode
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I got an LG G3 that came packaged with 35B (5.1.1), and nothing seemed to be working to get TWRP installed. I couldn't use LG Flash Tools to downgrade using the "TOT" method, because it'd stop with an "no ks version" error. I finally found something that works, and I'm now running AICP (nice ROM) with TWRP installed!
The trick is to follow these instructions (make sure you use VS985 components for our Verizon LG G3s, not D855):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-secure-boot-error-trying-to-boot-t3054977
Overwrite aboot.img (12B version) & recovery (TWRP image) using dd commands via an adb shell, after rooting with KingRoot, while Android is running. I then used adb commands to reboot into recovery, and volia! I was in! I had AICP on my internal card, and the 12b bootstack, which I flashed in that order.
After seeing AICP successfully boot, I went back and flashed the 35B bootstack. Success!
Stock images (aboot 12B etc.): http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
Bootstacks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/xdabbeb-s-vs980-2-0-0-t3231279
KingRoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Great news for you and others. Thanks for sharing!
Well, i tried to follow this step by step and I ended up with a black screen after reboot. My G3 would power up, blue and green led's would flash like normal, I could hear the sounds being made by pressing the power button and touching the screen just like everything went as planned except for a black screen. My PC still recognized my device when Android was running and it was still detected when I entered download mode. I could see the device driver installation window popup on my PC and I could see my G3 in my Device Manager as well. I am a little unsure about what went wrong but I am doing my research to see if I can solve this problem. The good thing about the whole situation, I was able to use LG FLashTools 2014 to KDZ back to 35B which is what I was running at the beginning of this process. The software flash just finished and so did "Android is starting" so I will set this thing back up and try again once I find out what went wrong and why I received the black screen afterwards. If anyone can provide any input as to what my have happened or if there was something I missed I would appreciate it.
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Well, i tried to follow this step by step and I ended up with a black screen after reboot. My G3 would power up, blue and green led's would flash like normal, I could hear the sounds being made by pressing the power button and touching the screen just like everything went as planned except for a black screen. My PC still recognized my device when Android was running and it was still detected when I entered download mode. I could see the device driver installation window popup on my PC and I could see my G3 in my Device Manager as well. I am a little unsure about what went wrong but I am doing my research to see if I can solve this problem. The good thing about the whole situation, I was able to use LG FLashTools 2014 to KDZ back to 35B which is what I was running at the beginning of this process. The software flash just finished and so did "Android is starting" so I will set this thing back up and try again once I find out what went wrong and why I received the black screen afterwards. If anyone can provide any input as to what my have happened or if there was something I missed I would appreciate it.
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Weird... this is what I did (nothing more):
1) Pick a ROM I wanted to use. I went with AICP nightly for VS985 (MM 6.0.1). Put that ROM zip to be flashed by TWRP on your internal memory.
2) Put the 12B bootstack on internal memory.
3) Put the 12B aboot.img & latest TWRP img on internal memory.
4) Root with KingRoot
5) Open up an "adb shell" and use "su" to get a root shell.
6) Use dd commands (like in the original post's link) to zero, flash aboot & the recovery image to their proper partitions.
7) Use "adb reboot recovery" to boot into TWRP
8) Factory reset
9) Flash ROM (AICP etc.)
10) Flash 12B bootstack (not 100% sure needed, but whatever)
11) Wipe cache/dalvik (not 100% sure needed, but whatever)
12) Reboot & profit!
After seeing successful boot, I did go back into TWRP & flash the 35B bootstack, just to have the latest stuff that still does work.
I *did* have one oddity where my screen went black, but NOTHING was responsive (not even the LED). Phone just appeared completely dead -- no response to anything. I pulled the battery, and it booted up fine. Hasn't happened again...
It was weird indeed. I flashed the 35B KDZ to return to stock after the screen went black. I was already on the stock 35B OTA that I received back in October. I was already rooted with Kingroot and had already removed Kingroot with SuperUser in its place. Was that something that was different between us maybe? Were you on the stock 35B, unrooted, before you started the process? Like I said, I was already rooted. Don't know if it makes a difference or not. Since I was able to flash back to stock after the mishap I will be trying it again here shortly when I get back in from of my Laptop. I am fully stock right now and my software status is official. I will do the process over again starting with a fresh template. I'll edit my post with an update after I'm finished. Thanks for the response and for the guide.
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It was weird indeed. I flashed the 35B KDZ to return to stock after the screen went black. I was already on the stock 35B OTA that I received back in October. I was already rooted with Kingroot and had already removed Kingroot with SuperUser in its place. Was that something that was different between us maybe? Were you on the stock 35B, unrooted, before you started the process? Like I said, I was already rooted. Don't know if it makes a difference or not. Since I was able to flash back to stock after the mishap I will be trying it again here shortly when I get back in from of my Laptop. I am fully stock right now and my software status is official. I will do the process over again starting with a fresh template. I'll edit my post with an update after I'm finished. Thanks for the response and for the guide.
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I was on a "fresh", unrooted flash of the 35B KDZ after some previous failed attempts to get TWRP installed. Then, I started my steps listed above. I didn't swap out KingRoot to SuperSU (since I knew it'd just be overwritten when AICP gets installed). Just needed root to flash aboot & recovery.
What command did you run to flash the twrp img, in the other link with the commands of says he used flashify but you used terminal to flash yours. Thanks.
It works.
New here, also with VS985 35b. LG Flash tool kept giving me failed previous flash on every attempt to downgrade to 10b. Saw this and using the same aboot.img and bootstack.zip that you used, I used terminal emulator to update and it worked first time. I just had to remember to use VS985 components including twrp. Everything is now running, and am so thankful. My first G3, previously rooting and playing with Samsung S4. Again, thank you for your incredible work.
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New here, also with VS985 35b. LG Flash tool kept giving me failed previous flash on every attempt to downgrade to 10b. Saw this and using the same aboot.img and bootstack.zip that you used, I used terminal emulator to update and it worked first time. I just had to remember to use VS985 components including twrp. Everything is now running, and am so thankful. My first G3, previously rooting and playing with Samsung S4. Again, thank you for your incredible work.
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You mind giving m the exact commands you used and the order you did everything in? Got a little confused going from thread to thread to get everything downloaded. Think I read too much.lol confused myself
Evohog
1) Started on this site and downloaded:
Stock image (aboot.img 12b)
bootstack (12b) down the page in downloads.
This is important because the instruction page is for D855 and you need VS985 aboot and bootstack. This was what initially confused me.
2) I then went to the page that says follow these instructions.
Here I downloaded oversharpening fix flashable zip and a twrp recovery for VS985.
You will want to substitute VS985 aboot and bootstack for the D855 in his writeup.
3) I followed the rest of his tutorial, very carefully typing the commands into terminal emulator. (I haven't got my linux machine ready for adb yet.
4. Shut down the phone. rebooted into recovery (You can use flashify settings to reboot into recovery, or the buttons on back of the phone after shutdown.
5. It worked, I was in twrp. Flashed the oversharpening and the 12b bootstack.
Hope this helps.
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1) Started on this site and downloaded:
Stock image (aboot.img 12b)
bootstack (12b) down the page in downloads.
This is important because the instruction page is for D855 and you need VS985 aboot and bootstack. This was what initially confused me.
2) I then went to the page that says follow these instructions.
Here I downloaded oversharpening fix flashable zip and a twrp recovery for VS985.
You will want to substitute VS985 aboot and bootstack for the D855 in his writeup.
3) I followed the rest of his tutorial, very carefully typing the commands into terminal emulator. (I haven't got my linux machine ready for adb yet.
4. Shut down the phone. rebooted into recovery (You can use flashify settings to reboot into recovery, or the buttons on back of the phone after shutdown.
5. It worked, I was in twrp. Flashed the oversharpening and the 12b bootstack.
Hope this helps.
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One last question, where in the commands it says "block/name/a boot" so I enter vs985 where it says name or do I enter name. I'm so rusty,it's been a couple years since I've even rooted anything. Thanks again for the hand holding.
Evohog
If you are talking about the commands that you type into the terminal emulator, you enter them just as they are written, except for what is in quotes. Don't change them. Good Luck.
Hey guys, Tried this and now im hard bricked. Could anyone give me a hand? I have everything posted here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/kdz-restore-t3315170/post65328929#post65328929
johnny567
I was successful twice with this method. The third time, it bricked so hard I couldn't even get into download mode. After a ton of reading, I found a recommendation in
verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878/page24 no. 236 by jhtrades 1 at the bottom of his recommendation (ALT METHOD #2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/how-to-hardbrick-guide-using-test-t3276928. I followed along starting with step 6, no wire, and somehow got the phone back to a version of verizon with a problem in the bootloader. At least, I was able to get into download mode and did a KDZ to 10b. After that everything was back on track.
I am not absolutely sure if this will work for you, or exactly sure what I did, but it's the best I can come up with. All I remember at the time, was it seemed complicated. Good luck and hope you get it back and working.
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I was successful twice with this method. The third time, it bricked so hard I couldn't even get into download mode. After a ton of reading, I found a recommendation in
verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878/page24 no. 236 by jhtrades 1 at the bottom of his recommendation (ALT METHOD #2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/how-to-hardbrick-guide-using-test-t3276928. I followed along starting with step 6, no wire, and somehow got the phone back to a version of verizon with a problem in the bootloader. At least, I was able to get into download mode and did a KDZ to 10b. After that everything was back on track.
I am not absolutely sure if this will work for you, or exactly sure what I did, but it's the best I can come up with. All I remember at the time, was it seemed complicated. Good luck and hope you get it back and working.
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It doesnt seem to be working for me. It is pulling up as the Qualcomm 9008 and i have tried with and without wire. It keeps failing and I end up with the error "No response from the device. Check PMIC first and if still boot problem replace AP." I noticed that I have a vs985k. Do you think that could contribute to the failure?
I've used the KDZ method successfully to return to stock several times but now I have to do a warranty exchange and Verizon won't send the replacement phone because they claim they can see I didn't take any updates. So now I have to go back to stock but I can't use KDZ because the charging port is the flaky part so I can't connect to the PC. What if any alternate methods can I use?
On a related note, I am guessing the replacement will have most if not all of the latest updates and from what I've read I can no longer use Stump Root to root the phone. Alternatives?
gospodinwizard said:
I've used the KDZ method successfully to return to stock several times but now I have to do a warranty exchange and Verizon won't send the replacement phone because they claim they can see I didn't take any updates. So now I have to go back to stock but I can't use KDZ because the charging port is the flaky part so I can't connect to the PC. What if any alternate methods can I use?
On a related note, I am guessing the replacement will have most if not all of the latest updates and from what I've read I can no longer use Stump Root to root the phone. Alternatives?
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Unfortunately, KDZ or TOT require the USB port. And those are the only way to return to full stock.
If you have root and TWRP now, I can make you a flashable zip that contains all the stock 47A partitions, including recovery, so once you'd boot out of custom recovery you'd be back to stock. I can't guarantee that it would say "Official" instead of "Modified" in the About menu, though. I also can't guarantee that the phone won't be bricked somehow, either. All the risk is on you.
Stump is still the way to go, you just have to downgrade to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Both the TOT and correct .DLL are up in my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have root and TWRP now, I can make you a flashable zip that contains all the stock 47A partitions, including recovery, so once you'd boot out of custom recovery you'd be back to stock. I can't guarantee that it would say "Official" instead of "Modified" in the About menu, though. I also can't guarantee that the phone won't be bricked somehow, either. All the risk is on you.
Stump is still the way to go, you just have to downgrade to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Both the TOT and correct .DLL are up in my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
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The good news is I fiddled with USB enough to be able to successfully flash the 10B KDZ again. The weird news is that when I went to check for system updates, I was politely told my phone was up-to-date at 10B. Makes no sense to me and I'm not sure what to do about it. Any thoughts? The only reason I care about the updates is Verizon swore they wouldn't send out a replacement until I took updates. I.e. their complaint was that I hadn't taken any updates.
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The good news is I fiddled with USB enough to be able to successfully flash the 10B KDZ again. The weird news is that when I went to check for system updates, I was politely told my phone was up-to-date at 10B. Makes no sense to me and I'm not sure what to do about it. Any thoughts? The only reason I care about the updates is Verizon swore they wouldn't send out a replacement until I took updates. I.e. their complaint was that I hadn't taken any updates.
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It's normal and common that after flashing a TOT or KDZ that it says no updates for hours or even a day or so. Eventually, as long as you have an activated Verizon SIM inserted, it'll get updates. It won't without the SIM so if you already are using the SIM in a backup phone, that's another reason why.
If your USB were reliable, I'd suggest flashing the 47A KDZ, but I would recommend against it at this point.
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It's normal and common that after flashing a TOT or KDZ that it says no updates for hours or even a day or so. Eventually, as long as you have an activated Verizon SIM inserted, it'll get updates. It won't without the SIM so if you already are using the SIM in a backup phone, that's another reason why.
If your USB were reliable, I'd suggest flashing the 47A KDZ, but I would recommend against it at this point.
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Good point about 47A. Especially since their complaint was I hadn't taken any updates I want to be to say I actually took an OTA so I've got 24B on it now and I'll give it a day and see what shows up.
Glad to see you got it flashed back to stock.
Also, I should have asked this before, but are you using the original cable that came with the phone or a different one? It could be the cable itself is bad. Have you tried several different cables? Also, make sure you are not hooking up to USB 3.0 ports. I believe those won't work or don't work well with this phone. I could be wrong.
Or it could be the USB port is loose on your phone causing the issue. In that case, that's a hard one to get to work other than what you tried, which is jiggling and fiddling with it.
In any case, it appears you are good to go. Just because you haven't taken the latest OTAs shouldn't prevent them from taking the phone back IMHO but who knows.
Or, as @roirraW "edor" ehT stated, you can wait a few days and it should get the OTA eventually. I've usually found that after flashing TOT or KDZ, I get the notice right away.
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Glad to see you got it flashed back to stock.
Also, I should have asked this before, but are you using the original cable that came with the phone or a different one? It could be the cable itself is bad. Have you tried several different cables? Also, make sure you are not hooking up to USB 3.0 ports. I believe those won't work or don't work well with this phone. I could be wrong.
Or it could be the USB port is loose on your phone causing the issue. In that case, that's a hard one to get to work other than what you tried, which is jiggling and fiddling with it.
In any case, it appears you are good to go. Just because you haven't taken the latest OTAs shouldn't prevent them from taking the phone back IMHO but who knows.
Or, as @roirraW "edor" ehT stated, you can wait a few days and it should get the OTA eventually. I've usually found that after flashing TOT or KDZ, I get the notice right away.
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Want to make sure I clearly understand. Now that I have the replacement phone up and running, I use the flash tool and flash 7b._VS985_LGUP8974.dll_-_From_stock_35B-47A_TOT_back_to_10B_using_this_DLL.7z to get back to back to 10B and then use Stump to reroot?
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Want to make sure I clearly understand. Now that I have the replacement phone up and running, I use the flash tool and flash 7b._VS985_LGUP8974.dll_-_From_stock_35B-47A_TOT_back_to_10B_using_this_DLL.7z to get back to back to 10B and then use Stump to reroot?
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No. That's only the .DLL. You also need the .TOT file, which I have the same place as that .DLL, and you need to extract them from the .7Z (7-Zip) archive with the free www.7-zip.org. See the last two posts of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-vs98547a-downgrade-t3354241/page3#post67731364.
Yes, Stump's brute force option, then TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then wipe Cache, Dalvik/ART, Data, flash the ROM you want and then the appropriate Bootstack for the ROM you're flashing.
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No. That's only the .DLL. You also need the .TOT file, which I have the same place as that .DLL, and you need to extract them from the .7Z (7-Zip) archive with the free www.7-zip.org. See the last two posts of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-vs98547a-downgrade-t3354241/page3#post67731364.
Yes, Stump's brute force option, then TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then wipe Cache, Dalvik/ART, Data, flash the ROM you want and then the appropriate Bootstack for the ROM you're flashing.
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OK finally got back to this. I have the flash tool and LGUP8974.dll and VS98510B_01.kdz. In the flash tool I see nowhere to specify a dll to use so that makes me a little nervous. The directory with the flash tool executable has other dll's in it already but none have the same name as the dll I downloaded. Do I just drop the downloaded dll in that directory and flash the 10B KDZ or is there something I'm missing? Clearly I'm erring on the side of caution here. Sorry for all the questions but I rather ask alot and get it right than damage anything.
My bad not the KDZ but this: 7a._VS98510B_03.TOT-4.4.2-KitKat-MD5_hash_inside-(official-will_get_OTAs_-_file_inside_is_mistakenly_named_Jellybean).7z
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OK finally got back to this. I have the flash tool and LGUP8974.dll and VS98510B_01.kdz. In the flash tool I see nowhere to specify a dll to use so that makes me a little nervous. The directory with the flash tool executable has other dll's in it already but none have the same name as the dll I downloaded. Do I just drop the downloaded dll in that directory and flash the 10B KDZ or is there something I'm missing? Clearly I'm erring on the side of caution here. Sorry for all the questions but I rather ask alot and get it right than damage anything.
My bad not the KDZ but this: 7a._VS98510B_03.TOT-4.4.2-KitKat-MD5_hash_inside-(official-will_get_OTAs_-_file_inside_is_mistakenly_named_Jellybean).7z
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It doesn't matter where the separate .DLL is, or the TOT. When you launch the tool you browse to the locations of them. If you already got the different megalock.dll and replaced the one in the installation directory then you're good to go. I don't think there's any danger, if something's not right it won't flash anything so there's no chance of damage from that anyway. There's directions for the TOT method all over including in the non-Verizon G3 General section. The instructions are the same no matter what device, just use that TOT and .DLL, and the driver's for the VS985 instead of whatever ones the guide you use specify. In all cases it's the same flash program and replacement megalock.dll as far as I've been able to tell.
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It doesn't matter where the separate .DLL is, or the TOT. When you launch the tool you browse to the locations of them. If you already got the different megalock.dll and replaced the one in the installation directory then you're good to go. I don't think there's any danger, if something's not right it won't flash anything so there's no chance of damage from that anyway. There's directions for the TOT method all over including in the non-Verizon G3 General section. The instructions are the same no matter what device, just use that TOT and .DLL, and the driver's for the VS985 instead of whatever ones the guide you use specify. In all cases it's the same flash program and replacement megalock.dll as far as I've been able to tell.
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Well see here's what is confusing me. I have the flash tool and have used it many times for KDZ's. However, there is no spot in there that lets me specify a particular dll AND it only browses for
.kdz and .cab files. .... .tot doesn't appear to even be an option. The only two files I downloaded were the TOT and dll for going back to 10 B that you pointed. It leaves me wondering if something is amiss with the flash tool I have. I am operating under the assumption that my objective is to flash the TOT file as I would previously flashed a KDZ but the flash tool I have wont even select a TOT file or a dll for that matter.
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Well see here's what is confusing me. I have the flash tool and have used it many times for KDZ's. However, there is no spot in there that lets me specify a particular dll AND it only browses for
.kdz and .cab files. .... .tot doesn't appear to even be an option. The only two files I downloaded were the TOT and dll for going back to 10 B that you pointed. It leaves me wondering if something is amiss with the flash tool I have. I am operating under the assumption that my objective is to flash the TOT file as I would previously flashed a KDZ but the flash tool I have wont even select a TOT file or a dll for that matter.
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The Flash Tool 2014 is for KDZs only. If you Google for "TOT method", you'll find instructions and links to a different flash program, and also to the megalock.dll that you need to replace the one that the program comes with when you install it. Find a TOT method thread and you'll get all the information and screenshots you need of what you need.
I'm getting a new g3 this week. I know the first thing the phone will do when I activate it is to do the OTAs. I want to root my phone. I want to know at which point do I stop the OTAs so I don't get stuck with unroot able version. I know the latest version, 6.0 is not root able. I do want to accidentally go to far.
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Don't take any OTAs at all if you can help it. It could come with 47A already, some other user's have recently.
Usually you can downgrade to 10B via the TOT method using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ (both available from my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
Root is easiest with the Stump app on XDA with its brute force option and that only works on 10B, then use TWRP Manager to install TWRP, and that part is only that easy on 12B and below
@R-T-B has found evidence that if under your battery the model number has a K at the end like VS985WK, then you might not be able to downgrade at all, so no permanent root.
Kingroot works even on 47A but it's highly suspicious and deeply ingrains itself into your system even more than is necessary for root, and with it you have to reroot after every reboot, rooting requires Internet every time, and it might be sharing your private information in the background.
If you do try to downgrade and brick, especially if you have the "K" model number, @R-T-B has a new debrick thread in the General section with modifications to previously available methods to at least get the phone working back on 47A.
This my first lg phone so I'm not a noob when it comes to rooting, I'm unfamiliar with some of lg terms. I've had moto and Samsung in the past.
So when the phone arrives I am going to post the current versions of everything and see if someone can guide me through the bes way to root, get twrp and flash a rom if I had to.
And yes, I have two threads on here. I have a thread to try and figure out out to unbrick a somewhat bricked g3 and this thread to make sure I don't do the same thing to the new phone.
Thanks
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So when the phone arrives I am going to post the current versions of everything and see if someone can guide me through the bes way to root, get twrp and flash a rom if I had to.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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So if I am on 10b, I can root with stump, flash twrp with twrp manager and I'm good to go? I can flash rooms even if they are based on new versions like MM?
So the only hard thing is if I'm past 10b and/or the device is already on MM.
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So if I am on 10b, I can root with stump, flash twrp with twrp manager and I'm good to go? I can flash rooms even if they are based on new versions like MM?
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Yes to both. Highly unlikely it'll come with 10B, and very likely it'll come with 47A or at least 35B.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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so my new g3 had 35b on it.
i've followed the guide to flash down to 10 b, i get an error in the lg tool that says upgrade stopped due to an error. then it gives instructions on trying again..
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so my new g3 had 35b on it.
i've followed the guide to flash down to 10 b, i get an error in the lg tool that says upgrade stopped due to an error. then it gives instructions on trying again..
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You're using the new .DLL I directed you to? If you downloaded the TOT and .DLL from my Android File Host link, did you use 7-Zip to extract the files out of .7z archives you downloaded? Are you using the original USB cable (hopefully it came with the OEM one)? Installed the latest drivers from LG's website for the VS985 and then rebooted with the phone disconnected from the PC? Connected the phone in Download mode to a USB 2.0 port that comes directly off the motherboard on the PC (not USB 3.x and not through a USB hub)?
You changed the port # of the correct device - the one in the Port section, not the one in the Modem section, right?
Once the TOT flashing software gets to certain point where you think it's just going to "continue" on it's own but it doesn't, did you try unplugging the cable from the phone, wait five seconds, and then plug it back in, and wait up to a minute or more while the software should then start the flash in earnest?
Lastly, sometimes trying a different PC does the trick.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're using the new .DLL I directed you to? If you downloaded the TOT and .DLL from my Android File Host link, did you use 7-Zip to extract the files out of .7z archives you downloaded? Are you using the original USB cable (hopefully it came with the OEM one)? Installed the latest drivers from LG's website for the VS985 and then rebooted with the phone disconnected from the PC? Connected the phone in Download mode to a USB 2.0 port that comes directly off the motherboard on the PC (not USB 3.x and not through a USB hub)?
You changed the port # of the correct device - the one in the Port section, not the one in the Modem section, right?
Once the TOT flashing software gets to certain point where you think it's just going to "continue" on it's own but it doesn't, did you try unplugging the cable from the phone, wait five seconds, and then plug it back in, and wait up to a minute or more while the software should then start the flash in earnest?
Lastly, sometimes trying a different PC does the trick.
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the post you pointed me to has the KDZ file not the TOT file. It does reference a thread to downgrade via TOT file but that thread doesn't have the download links on it anymore. http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878
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the post you pointed me to has the KDZ file not the TOT file. It does reference a thread to downgrade via TOT file but that thread doesn't have the download links on it anymore. [/QUOTE]
My Android File Host link...d has all the KDZs, and the TOT and the .DLL.
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My Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of that thread has all the KDZs, and the TOT and the .DLL.
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ok i found your files and I"m downloading them now. I have downloaded the flash tool and it wants a username and password. found a work around that involves turning off the internet and resetting the date on the computer. Is this the best way to flash a tot or did i not download the correct tool?
i give up....i get an error when using the tot that it didn't load. i even looked into the LGup tool and it says i have an unknown model. maybe this tool is not for the g3
f it. i'm doing the ota to MM, i like the phone with stock unrooted. so it's not worth this headache. Maybe the problem is I am on windows 10. But it is the only computer I have. If I every have a chance to use a win 7 computer, maybe I will try. With what I read, I should be able to downgrade to 10b from MM using the same methods.
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i give up....i get an error when using the tot that it didn't load. i even looked into the LGup tool and it says i have an unknown model. maybe this tool is not for the g3
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f it. i'm doing the ota to MM, i like the phone with stock unrooted. so it's not worth this headache. Maybe the problem is I am on windows 10. But it is the only computer I have. If I every have a chance to use a win 7 computer, maybe I will try. With what I read, I should be able to downgrade to 10b from MM using the same methods.
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LGUp doesn't work with the VS985. The second post of the LGUp thread details what to use for Verizon G3s.
Windows 10 works fine. As long as your PCB (printed circuit board) in your particular phone isn't v2 (you'd have to look in @R-T-B 's thread in the General section as far as where to look on the board to find the "2" or "1", etc), then yes the downgrade method is the same from 47A. If you happen to have a newer revision of the VS985 then putting Marshmallow on will keep it from being downgraded any longer. This is a fairly recent development (last week or two) that this has been noticed in such detail.
If it is revision 2 of the PCB, then you won't be able to downgrade from 47A at all.
What you mean with "unrooteable" ?
If we like rooteable devices, why still people stay paying these "unrooteable" devices?
Its time to IMPOSE for CHITTY GOGLE INC to create REAL LINUX ADM ROOTED devices or STOP BUYING THESE DAMN CHITS!
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Dethfull said:
What you mean with "unrooteable" ?
If we like rooteable devices, why still people stay paying these "unrooteable" devices?
Its time to IMPOSE for CHITTY GOGLE INC to create REAL LINUX ADM ROOTED devices or STOP BUYING THESE DAMN CHITS!
Sent from my XT687 using xda premium
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Personally, I love my G3, but I'm with you. I won't buy another LG product until they lose their root/custom firmware unfriendly stance.
The Google in says "Google is your friend"
so, A friendly acceptable device, is being distributable by them?
We have years Forcing, imposing, root on all SIMPLY ALL these "friendly" devices.
How we believe on their phrase?
I only believe, the UNIX AND LINUX GPL ARE BEING PAID FOR THEIR "FRIENDISM".
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Hey folks. I'm in need of some help, but need to provide some background info as it seems there might be a few ways to correct this.
Background
I had a recent bad Nandroid mess up a restore process which somehow led to me losing root. I was on XDABBEB's 47A stock rooted ROM for months, then went to try the 3.1.1 ROM recently. I found that I wanted to go back, then BOOM! Bad restore from my data NANDROID. Then I:
Got stuck in a boot loop.
Rebooted into recovery
Saw the LG Recovery
(Stupidly?) chose to wipe cache
Continued to boot from LG Recovery
Went immediately to TWRP
Wiped Data and caches
Rebooted
At this point, I got back into 47A, but obviously without any data. I soon found that, though SuperSU was installed, it wasn't working:
There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!
If you just upgraded to Android 5.0, you need to manually re-rot - consult the relevant forums for your device!
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At this point, I checked Root Checker app and, surely enough, it says I wasn't rooted.
I checked ADB and tried to su from the prompt ($) and
Code:
su: notfound
However, adb reboot recovery brings me to TWRP
I tried TOT'ing on my Windows 10 (x64) machine, but it wasn't working:
PID: FAIL
IMEI: Unknown
[23:59: 0] CrossDL [Unknown] to [VS985].SW ***The text on this line continues, but I can't read it***
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Error: [23:59: 0] CrossDL [Unknown] to [VS985].
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I'm lucky in that my phone is currently working fine. I'm on 47a with everything working fine ... just not rooted, which I would really like to be.
So, my question is, what should I do next? I know some options that I have, I just don't know what options I should try or in what order I should try them...I understand some of the jargon and background info, but I don't understand the true inner workings of rooting and therefore don't feel comfortable making these choices on my own.
So, to all of you people that are way more intelligent at this than I am...
Should I try restoring my rooted 49A backup from TWRP?
Should I try to flash SU binaries in TWRP?
Should I TOT from my work machine that is Windows 7?
Should I KDZ on Windows 10?
Thanks in advance for your collective help.
This inquiring mind wants to know!
I'm assuming that since you were running XDEBs ROM, then you do NOT have a K model of the phone. In that case, you must flash back to 10B via the TOT method. That way, you can then root with Stump and then install TWRP, flash the correct boot images, and then reflash XDEBs ROM.
Stock 47A is only rootable by Kingroot and there is NO way to install TWRP with pure stock 47A, which is why you must downgrade via the 10B TOT method. It's the boot partition that is incompatible with TWRP and they have not found a way to "bump" it to work with the stock 47/48/49A versions.
iBolski said:
I'm assuming that since you were running XDEBs ROM, then you do NOT have a K model of the phone
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Correct. xdebbeb's stock 47A on a non-K model
Stock 47A is only rootable by Kingroot and there is NO way to install TWRP with pure stock 47A, which is why you must downgrade via the 10B TOT method.
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That's why I'm confused a bit about my options. I already HAVE TWRP installed. Is having TWRP not helpful to regain root? This is causing me to feel like I'm in a weird limbo state (of options) with the phone.
It's the boot partition that is incompatible with TWRP and they have not found a way to "bump" it to work with the stock 47/48/49A versions.
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Since I have TWRP already, does that mean that my boot partition was/is/has been "bumped"?
Sorry for so many questions. I do like making sense of things that I'm told and understanding them.
Since I'm failing on the TOT method at home, is that possibly because of the Windows 10 machine? Should I try Windows 7 on a different machine?
Thanks a lot for the help, iBolski.
my.ads0 said:
Correct. xdebbeb's stock 47A on a non-K model
That's why I'm confused a bit about my options. I already HAVE TWRP installed. Is having TWRP not helpful to regain root? This is causing me to feel like I'm in a weird limbo state (of options) with the phone.
Since I have TWRP already, does that mean that my boot partition was/is/has been "bumped"?
Sorry for so many questions. I do like making sense of things that I'm told and understanding them.
Since I'm failing on the TOT method at home, is that possibly because of the Windows 10 machine? Should I try Windows 7 on a different machine?
Thanks a lot for the help, iBolski.
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You're best bet is to either flash a full 47A KDZ but you won't be able to root and TWRP will be removed and you won't be able to flash custom ROMs, like XDEBB.
Your other option is to flash to 10B via TOT method, root, reinstall TWRP Then, based on the custom ROM's instructions, you may have to flash 35B bootstack, but you'll be in a position to flash custom ROMs again.
Either flash WILL erase everything on your phone as it's like a factory data reset. Those are your only options unfortunately. TWRP cannot work under 47A as you're finding out. You will be unable to flash root, any custom roms, etc.
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You're best bet is to either flash a full 47A KDZ but you won't be able to root and TWRP will be removed and you won't be able to flash custom ROMs, like XDEBB.
Your other option is to flash to 10B via TOT method, root, reinstall TWRP Then, based on the custom ROM's instructions, you may have to flash 35B bootstack, but you'll be in a position to flash custom ROMs again.
Either flash WILL erase everything on your phone as it's like a factory data reset. Those are your only options unfortunately. TWRP cannot work under 47A as you're finding out. You will be unable to flash root, any custom roms, etc.
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I just want to make sure that you're aware that I am NOT on pure stock 47A. I'm on xdabbeb_stock_vs98547a.zip from here.
When I flashed back from his 3.1.1 ROM, I flashed to my backup of the above ROM, which had Root. The SYSTEM flash from my nandroid back to his version of 47A worked without incident, but the DATA flash of my nandroid failed, left me in a bootloop, after which I performed the actions outlined in my original post. That squarely left where I am now, with no root, but on his version of 47A (I never had the stock 47A on my device before) with TWRP as my recovery.
In the end, I'm game for trying different things, but ideally, I'd like to try the least invasive method (trying to flash SuperSU in TWRP?; trying to flash my xdabebb 3.1.1 version?) ) before trying any other method or going to the extreme method (TOT'ing). I just am trying to avoid TOT'ing since my phone IS working AND the fact that I would have to do that at work. It would suck to go from a working phone to a broken phone without being able to fix it without knowing that I tried all of the least invasive methods first. I just need guidance from people like you as to what will or won't work in my situation.
The reason for this post is that I wasn't sure that you were aware I wasn't on pure stock 47A, but on xdabebb's version, which maybe you had overlooked and offered me more options? If you were aware of that and everything above is irrelevant, then I'm cool with that. Just tell me so. I just didn't want that fact overlooked.
Thanks again for entertaining my inquisitiveness, iBolski.
Well, trying to install the SuperSU binary zip from TWRP didn't work. That got me flashing blue & red lights. I tried restoring my XDABEBB 49A 3.1.1 install and that didn't help either. Both TOT & KDZ methods are failing on my PC (Windows 10) with both not able to read the phone properly (can't see imei). I will maybe try to uninstall the drivers or just wait until Monday to try my windows 7 machine at work.
Oops.
So I took up the cause again this morning and loaded all of the tools for the KDZ method on another PC. I installed the most up to date LG drivers, rebooted, made the PC recognize my phone in every mode (Download Mode, Bulk Mode [flashing lights], and while in TWRP). The tool still wasn't working properly and not reading my phone's info. Though I had run it a few other times, I had been following instructions and hadn't changed the language to English. The last couple of times, I changed the language to English. This time, when it stopped working (not connecting to LG servers) it offered me the option to retry. I took them up on the offer ... unplugged the phone, pulled the batter, put the battery back in, entered Download mode (volume up + connect USB), reconnected and BAM!!! It did the upgrade!
So I'm back on 10B. Crisis averted.
Thanks once again for putting up with me, iBlonksi.
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So I took up the cause again this morning and loaded all of the tools for the KDZ method on another PC. I installed the most up to date LG drivers, rebooted, made the PC recognize my phone in every mode (Download Mode, Bulk Mode [flashing lights], and while in TWRP). The tool still wasn't working properly and not reading my phone's info. Though I had run it a few other times, I had been following instructions and hadn't changed the language to English. The last couple of times, I changed the language to English. This time, when it stopped working (not connecting to LG servers) it offered me the option to retry. I took them up on the offer ... unplugged the phone, pulled the batter, put the battery back in, entered Download mode (volume up + connect USB), reconnected and BAM!!! It did the upgrade!
So I'm back on 10B. Crisis averted.
Thanks once again for putting up with me, iBlonksi.
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Awesome. I saw your earlier post about being on XDEBB but that didn't matter. You were at a point that flashing back to 10b was your best option to get back to XDEB. That's why I kept saying you needed to flash back to 10B if you wanted to get back on XDEBB because where you were at that point was messed up, so it was just best to flash to 10b clean.
Glad you got it all worked out!
I tired a search and the only similar thread i found was someone who was able to boot into twrp. I am not able to do that. over a year ago i rooted my phone. but i haven't had any issues. out comes this stupid update and my phone tried to install it and failed. since then I've had issues so i figured i'd just reset the phone. I go to pull up adb and adb will force my phone to reboot but does not recognize it after its in bootloader mode. Okay weird also will show my phone in adb when i type adb devices, and will force it to reboot to firmware update, but never sees it. Figured I'd start back at square one Load up the patched version of LGUP, it recgnizes my phone when its NOT in bootloader mode, but the second i try it in bootloader it doesn't see my phone. I've tried deleting the adb Lgup the device drivers i've revoked debuggin authorization I just can't think of anyreson other than so messed up firmware that the phone would be doing this
Will doing the "button dance" get you into twrp?
What's the button dance?
deplorableone said:
What's the button dance?
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Google LG V30 button dance.
Yeah all it does is restart my phone and when I get to the reset screen is just wipes my device
Yeah all it does is restart my phone and when I get to the reset screen is just wipes my device
deplorableone said:
Yeah all it does is restart my phone and when I get to the reset screen is just wipes my device
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If you did it correctly, then that means you must not TWRP installed. If you had TWRP the button dance would boot to TWRP instead of wiping your phone. I hate doing the button dance as it takes specific timing to hit the buttons correctly.
In all my Guides there's only one scenario where I tell people they have no other choice than to use the button dance. In all others I stress other options.
I also tell people to never take an OTA update if you have TWRP installed.
ChazzMatt said:
If you did it correctly, then that means you must not TWRP installed. If you had TWRP the button dance would boot to TWRP instead of wiping your phone. I hate doing the button dance as it takes specific timing to hit the buttons correctly.
In all my Guides there's only one scenario where I tell people they have no other choice than to use the button dance. In all others I stress other options.
I also tell people to never take an OTA update if you have TWRP installed.
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Yeah I woke up to the "update not installed" nag screen...I know i had twrp installed since it's how i installed magisk, and the VS99630c .zip. Those are still on my SD card. At least after wiping the phone it seems to be behaving properly, but magisk is now gone and being unable to boot into twrp means I can't put it back. It's all good though it's a 3+ year old phone figured if i can't fix it i'll just replace it. Didn't know if anyone had an experience like this with lgup and adb not recognizing the handset in download mode. Seemed like a strange quirk...
deplorableone said:
Didn't know if anyone had an experience like this with lgup and adb not recognizing the handset in download mode. Seemed like a strange quirk...
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Yes, sometimes reinstalling drivers helps. Also trying a different computer.
Your bootloader is still unlocked, but because you are on Verizon firmware it's not giving you the scary warning. To reinstall TWRP and Magisk, using Dev Patched LGUP you would have to temporarily flash back to US998 firmware (Oreo would be best), then use go through Section 6 of the WTF Instructions to install TWRP, reformat internal memory, install Magisk. Then you could re-flash VS996 30C (until a TWRP flashable zip of 30d comes along). You would need to freeze the update files so this doesn't happen again.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, sometimes reinstalling drivers helps. Also trying a different computer.
Your bootloader is still unlocked, but because you are on Verizon firmware it's not giving you the scary warning. To reinstall TWRP and Magisk, using Dev Patched LGUP you would have to temporarily flash back to US998 firmware (Oreo would be best), then use go through Section 6 of the WTF Instructions to install TWRP, reformat internal memory, install Magisk. Then you could re-flash VS996 30C (until a TWRP flashable zip of 30d comes along). You would need to freeze the update files so this doesn't happen again.
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Yes i've been trying to just start back over at square one using the patched LGUP, but it doesn't recognize the phone. I've numerous cables and 2 different PC's and no luck yet. I am going to try and buy a new cable though since I just used the ones I've had around the house. Seems odd that the phone is recognized using the cables up until i place it into download mode though. Might try and clean out the ole charging port as well. Again i originally followed the instructions to a T and have had absolutely no issues but noticed i lost voice commands and my sms/mms were messed up, immediately after the failed update. the phone seems to be 100% now with no issues due to the wipe. SO it's not the end of the world if I can't figure it out, but more like a challenge of fixing it
If someone can capture and share that OTA update you received, you can flash it using LGUP in FOTA mode. This often restores a broken Download Mode, even if the system update itself fails due to the phone not being stock and/or lacking stock recovery.
LGUP FOTA mode works inside the OS (with the phone in File Transfer mode) and doesn't require working Download Mode.
Just a thought
Caveat: The purpose of this would ONLY be to fix your Download mode. However there is a risk it might actually mess up your OS (which is currently working). So if it doesn't fix your Download mode, you'll actually be worse off.
I have the exact same issue so you're not alone, I'm trying anything I can think of, lmk if you figure something out. It's weird it sees phone in desktop with phone booted then a glitch in download mode and it never pulls up. I'm due for a new phone anyway, the update slipped thru somehow, lost root and twrp, can't flash. I'll let you know if I figure it out as well. If Chazz don't know how to fix itwe might be out of luck.
cpete2112 said:
I have the exact same issue so you're not alone, I'm trying anything I can think of, lmk if you figure something out. It's weird it sees phone in desktop with phone booted then a glitch in download mode and it never pulls up. I'm due for a new phone anyway, the update slipped thru somehow, lost root and twrp, can't flash. I'll let you know if I figure it out as well. If Chazz don't know how to fix itwe might be out of luck.
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Which model do you have, and which ROM are you on?
If you are "somewhat stock", on a model for which we have OTA files, you can force flash those using LGUP FOTA mode. This works inside the OS, doesn't require Download mode, and will often restore Download mode as the first thing -- even if the update itself fails because the phone isn't completely stock.
If you are on T-Mobile H932, we have a separate thread to help restore Download mode using OTA files and LGUP FOTA mode:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/h932-url-h932-pie-ota-file-t3991417/page7
And if you are on any model OTHER than
T-mobile H932, and you cannot find an OTA file, you can use the firehose and guidance in the thread linked below to re-flash the laf partition (Download mode).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/lg-v30-unbrick-guide-qualcomm-edl-9008-t4048661
I have a Verizon on 30c, I would like to make it to 30d, this phone started out as a ls998 sprint model, not that that matters idk. Yah I'm gonna try one of those mentioned routes to fix, I'm out of ideas.
cpete2112 said:
I have a Verizon on 30c, I would like to make it to 30d, this phone started out as a ls998 sprint model, not that that matters idk. Yah I'm gonna try one of those mentioned routes to fix, I'm out of ideas.
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You're in luck then: If you're on Verizon 30c, it *should* offer you a 30d OTA update. And if you accept that, it *should* repair your Download mode as part of the update
The potential risk here is when you're not completely stock, the OTA probably won't complete. That's ok as long as it repairs your Download mode, since then you can re-flash with LGUP. But in case it *doesn't* repair your Download mode, you could theoretically be worse off. I haven't heard of cases where that happened, I'm just pointing out the potential risk.
Good luck to you :fingers-crossed:
Edit: No wait, if you started out as LS998, Verizon won't offer you the OTA. But I believe somebody captured the 30d OTA file and shared it in another thread (about the 30d). If so, you can force flash it with LGUP FOTA mode. Make sure the PC can see the phone as MTP (USB File mode) before attempting this.
TheDannemand said:
Which model do you have, and which ROM are you on?
If you are "somewhat stock", on a model for which we have OTA files, you can force flash those using LGUP FOTA mode. This works inside the OS, doesn't require Download mode, and will often restore Download mode as the first thing -- even if the update itself fails because the phone isn't completely stock.
If you are on T-Mobile H932, we have a separate thread to help restore Download mode using OTA files and LGUP FOTA mode:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/h932-url-h932-pie-ota-file-t3991417/page7
And if you are on any model OTHER than
T-mobile H932, and you cannot find an OTA file, you can use the firehose and guidance in the thread linked below to re-flash the laf partition (Download mode).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/lg-v30-unbrick-guide-qualcomm-edl-9008-t4048661
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My friend was just looking for this information. Thanks
gimpy1 said:
Will doing the "button dance" get you into twrp?
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Doin' the buttons in DL mode.