[Q] Any issues so far with The Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact? - Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

I just received my Z3TC . Has anyone experienced any issues with the tablet? Usually the first batch that comes out has bugs so I wanted to know if anyone has noticed anything wrong with their tablet.
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Just noticed this. I tried plugging in some earbuds. I own the MDR-EX300LP which came with the Sony Walkman Z i bought 2 years ago. (The battery died out after 2 years). Well it seems that the Z3TC does not recognize the earbuds.. I tried some headphones and they are not recognized either. So I plug in the MDR-EX300LP earbuds into my friend's Galaxy S3 and they are recognized immediately. I wonder what is wrong maybe it is something obvious?

Have you? The only issue I have noticed is it is not available in Canada with no ETA and price point! Sony has been ever so helpful in ignoring requests for this info, but has now stated "some time in November".
Also, be wary of unlocking your bootloader as Sony might not fully disclose what may not work - they did that for the Z3 compact and now early unlockers are faced with a lower quality camera, in addition to the known software not working.

Sean09 said:
Have you? The only issue I have noticed is it is not available in Canada with no ETA and price point! Sony has been ever so helpful in ignoring requests for this info, but has now stated "some time in November".
Also, be wary of unlocking your bootloader as Sony might not fully disclose what may not work - they did that for the Z3 compact and now early unlockers are faced with a lower quality camera, in addition to the known software not working.
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Haha that is an issue. I was lucky in receiving the tablet so quick. Others that preordered before me still haven't received their tablet. What I was worried about was of known problems with the tablet. After 30 days I'm stuck with it so maybe I will have no problems with my Z3TC. Hope you can order one soon I've barely had time to use it but it is really good looking. Here in the U.S they only have the 32GB White Wifi only version. No LTE option or 16 GB option. Also no black color option.

Got mine. I've been looking for an issue but none... Loving it. Can't wait for the lollipop update

androidkid311 said:
Got mine. I've been looking for an issue but none... Loving it. Can't wait for the lollipop update
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Let's talk about issue(?). I've found, that when i browse/see other sources of white background on my Z3TC 32gb Wi-Fi Only, something distrubs my eyes, like some RGB-colored thing. If i try to position the tablet with white background at some angle to my eyes, i'm starting to see some rainbow-like effect on screen(one, two), its easy to see here. Then, i've powered off my Z3TC, and THIS is what i've seen in REFLECTION of my PC monitor on the Z3TCs powered-off screen. Is this same for you guys? Sry, for bad english, its 3am in Russia, and o'm not that good at it even when i'm not that tired.

That is strange
iDielord said:
Let's talk about issue(?). I've found, that when i browse/see other sources of white background on my Z3TC 32gb Wi-Fi Only, something distrubs my eyes, like some RGB-colored thing. If i try to position the tablet with white background at some angle to my eyes, i'm starting to see some rainbow-like effect on screen(one, two), its easy to see here. Then, i've powered off my Z3TC, and THIS is what i've seen in REFLECTION of my PC monitor on the Z3TCs powered-off screen. Is this same for you guys? Sry, for bad english, its 3am in Russia, and o'm not that good at it even when i'm not that tired.
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That does not look normal. I did the test with the white background and it does not look like that on mine. I might be wrong but your tablet might have a defective screen?

Same issue here with my Z3TC 16gb wifi black. It is the only problem with the tablet but i find it rather disturbing when reading on white background. Probably will exchange or return. I have tried your test with turned off screen and a reflection from the monitor, same rainbow effect. I repeated the test using my galaxy s4 mini and i saw similar but much less visible pattern of red-green/yellow stripes. I think it got something to do with anti-reflective coating or maybe some polarization of the glass?

They Leak
My 5 day old Z3 tablet just died after using in the bath, it wasn't submerged at any time just little bit of water on it from my hand. Used it for about an hour after when it said shutting down due to heat. Thought it was odd as it didn't feel hot then I noticed both camera lense is steamed up
Left it for a while and tried to turn it back on but it's dead
All doors securely closed and no signs of wet around the seals when I just opened them to check, had a Z1 for a year now and even had that under water in the sea with no issues. Very unhappy.

srichar3 said:
My 5 day old Z3 tablet just died after using in the bath, it wasn't submerged at any time just little bit of water on it from my hand. Used it for about an hour after when it said shutting down due to heat. Thought it was odd as it didn't feel hot then I noticed both camera lense is steamed up
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After that dodgy screen it was totally dead, just black screen no lights no reaction to power button or reset.
Stuck it on the radiator for an hour with port covers open and eventually it started showing the charge light but when I pressed the power key it showed zero% charge. Did volume and power key reset and then it showed 63% charge and started up again. Seems fine at the minuet but already got replacement coming from O2 as its less than 14 days and still in cooling off period so will swap it anyway. Dont think ill be using it in the bath again pretty poor really as I literally only got few drops on screen so it must have got in round the screen somewhere or the speaker slot.

Can everyone do the dead pixel test and see if you get this rainbow effect when titling the screen. I did and have it. Just like someone mentioned in a few posts above

I haven't any issues jet but one concern. The phone signal ? bars some time it goes down to none almost never full but it works for Internet and calls so I don't

I've also found that 3rd party earbuds create a problem with it. I use v-moda earbuds (which have worked fine on iPads/iPhones/Galaxy phones (S2/Note2)) is giving me problems on this tablet compact. But what's even more interesting, is that it only happens when the tablet is experiencing vibration. E.g. Riding the bus. I was on the bus, and it keeps defaulting to a screen called, "Smart Connect." It always keeps jumping to the headset portion within that app with every vibration of the bus. It is very frustrating! Anyone know why or how to turn that off from happening? Give it a try, plug it in with 3rd party headphones, and start rattling the tablet compact as if your on a bus. Please let me know. Many thanks.

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I've also found that 3rd party earbuds create a problem with it. I use v-moda earbuds (which have worked fine on iPads/iPhones/Galaxy phones (S2/Note2)) is giving me problems on this tablet compact. But what's even more interesting, is that it only happens when the tablet is experiencing vibration. E.g. Riding the bus. I was on the bus, and it keeps defaulting to a screen called, "Smart Connect." It always keeps jumping to the headset portion within that app with every vibration of the bus. It is very frustrating! Anyone know why or how to turn that off from happening? Give it a try, plug it in with 3rd party headphones, and start rattling the tablet compact as if your on a bus. Please let me know. Many thanks.
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I'll give it a try and let you know.

Does anyone have issues with ghost touches, like a Z1 phone lineup has?

zOOOOmer said:
Does anyone have issues with ghost touches, like a Z1 phone lineup has?
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Not at all! Your touchscreen might be faulty....

androidkid311 said:
Not at all! Your touchscreen might be faulty....
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I don't own a tablet yet, that's why I'm asking, that's important for me.
As Z1 owner I don't want to have another device with such issues. And talking about Z1 - that's model-related problem affecting every device including Z1 and Z1C (dunno about Z2 and Z3), not a couple of faulty phones.

Before submerging your Z3 check it is air tight (and thus water tight) see here for how to test using the built in pressure sensor. Close ports properly, Press the screen gently in a couple of locations pressure should rise by 6-7 millibars. Do the same test with a port cover open, pressure will not change when you press screen. I have a Z3 phone service options are near identical. NB: no idea how to do this on non LTE version... Perhaps sideload the phone apk? http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2908333

Hi, just got the 32gb version, and noticed the screen has a slightly mpre yalloish hue on the bottom (the side opposite to the sony logo. A bbit disturbing...

Been having a weird issue.. Wifi is turned off when screen is off. I made sure I clicked Wifi is always on in wifi setting. I made sure i unclicked turning wifi off in stamina mode. Seems like a weird bug.

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[Q] Issues (stock)

Dear all,
I've been waiting a little before rooting and installing a new ROM to make sure I don't need to return my phone for any reason. (So, it is stock now, no root, locked bootloader, KNOX still there, etc.)
So, far I've noticed three small problems, which I don't know if they are universal or just mine:
Sometimes when I get a call, the touch screen is irresponsive. If I press the lock/power button twice, it seems to work again. (I now have set up to press home to answer.)
It often feels a bit warm, more than I'd expect. (I have it in a case, though, a Spigen Slim Armor. It fits perfectly though.) But this happens sometimes when it is just sitting, not playing games. It is not really hot, but I can feel it warm in my pocket.
Sometimes I get a pop between songs. See this post
(So, at least one person also has the last problem.)
I can live with any of the problems above, but I'd hesitate to have a defective unit which can have bigger problems later on. Is any of the above an issue for you? Any suggestions if I should exchange the phone?
Thanks!
Luis
Do you remember when were the times when the screen was unresponsive?
I've read somewhere that sometimes when the screen is woken up and is under some pressure this will happen, and the only way is to do what you did. It's not uncommon in touchscreen phones though, so I wouldn't worry about it.
The verge app was broken until the most recent app update. Also, the s5 seems to refuse allowing Dashlane's accessibility service from working properly. So no more auto filling passwords for me. Ugh. I hoped rooting might help but it didn't. Now I really can't wait for custom ROMs to start appearing. Samsung, you make great hardware (like amoled displays) but your software sucks. Even the software on my Samsung TV is stupid.
Yes on two out of three!
finotti said:
Dear all,
I've been waiting a little before rooting and installing a new ROM to make sure I don't need to return my phone for any reason. (So, it is stock now, no root, locked bootloader, KNOX still there, etc.)
So, far I've noticed three small problems, which I don't know if they are universal or just mine:
Sometimes when I get a call, the touch screen is irresponsive. If I press the lock/power button twice, it seems to work again. (I now have set up to press home to answer.)
It often feels a bit warm, more than I'd expect. (I have it in a case, though, a Spigen Slim Armor. It fits perfectly though.) But this happens sometimes when it is just sitting, not playing games. It is not really hot, but I can feel it warm in my pocket.
Sometimes I get a pop between songs. See this post
(So, at least one person also has the last problem.)
I can live with any of the problems above, but I'd hesitate to have a defective unit which can have bigger problems later on. Is any of the above an issue for you? Any suggestions if I should exchange the phone?
Thanks!
Luis
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The unresponsive screen is more than a little issue, it is being reported all over the web, and get's more severe over time. I'm thinking that it is a bad proximity sensor defect, either firmware, hardware or software. Some people are reporting along with myself that sometimes for no apparent reason, the screen will not turn on even though the phone is completely operational! This has happened to me four times now and I am stock with very few apps on my phone, five total games and Pandora. I do use a substitute launcher that I've used for years but I don't believe that would be the issue since others report the same issue with stock launcher.
The pop or skipping you speak of in sound happens to many of us who stream music in our automobiles. It even happens on the note3. The fix is simple for that one though! Turn the screen on. I was told that with many of the streaming software music programs that the phones CPU goes to sleep and does not offer enough processing power to the music program. I stream all day via bluetooth to my Auto's sound system and it will usually start to skip, click or whatever after the phone has been untouched for about twenty minutes. The second I turn the screen on the problem alleviates itself. You can find even more information by googling that one, in fact both of those! The heat one I have not had, both with stock battery and zero lemon high capacity battery. The phone very rarely get's warm. However, when I was using wireless charging it would get warm even after charging was complete but I believe that is a normal event with QI type tech.

Is the Z2 really THIS bad?

It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
Yes, there are some things that we wouldn't expect from Sony but that was older batches.
I can record 5 min 4K video so can't see problem here.
All other manufacturers limited 4K to 5min, that's why they didn't have same problems.
Sony decided not to limit duration, so sometimes there will be overheating msg and closing camera.
I don't have any problem you said, I know for those guys and I'm sure that's all true but that's not general flaw and issue, that's perfectly normal...
If you aren't satisfied with Z2 you can always return in or change for another device...
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I came from M8 and S5, after having the z2 for 2 months, there are couple things I really don't like about the z2, it is noticeably slower, say you click on the camera icon, it doesn't come on instantaneously, the in call voice quality and speaker phone are only ok, not great, volume is a bit on the low side.
The in call quality and dim volume is a deal breaker for me, I am looking to switch to the G3 or Note 4.
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Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
Yes, there are some things that we wouldn't expect from Sony but that was older batches.
I can record 5 min 4K video so can't see problem here.
All other manufacturers limited 4K to 5min, that's why they didn't have same problems.
Sony decided not to limit duration, so sometimes there will be overheating msg and closing camera.
I don't have any problem you said, I know for those guys and I'm sure that's all true but that's not general flaw and issue, that's perfectly normal...
If you aren't satisfied with Z2 you can always return in or change for another device...
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
coolmingli said:
I came from M8 and S5, after having the z2 for 2 months, there are couple things I really don't like about the z2, it is noticeably slower, say you click on the camera icon, it doesn't come on instantaneously, the in call voice quality and speaker phone are only ok, not great, volume is a bit on the low side.
The in call quality and dim volume is a deal breaker for me, I am looking to switch to the G3 or Note 4.
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How long ago did you buy your device? Was it a newer one? I really don't want to get the g3 but it looks like I may be forced to
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It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
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Lets not foget that fact that usually theres only people posting with problems. ofcourse it looks like alot problems when only they post who got issues with their phone.
im having week 20 phone without any issues.
Lawido said:
Lets not foget that fact that usually theres only people posting with problems. ofcourse it looks like alot problems when only they post who got issues with their phone.
im having week 20 phone without any issues.
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Yea I know that's why I wanted to ask around and see how many people weren't having problems. To me its got the best specs by far of any phone. I think the sound issues and maybe a bit of lag can be fixed with custom roms and what not. I just don't want to end up with the charging port popping out and then I don't realize it and go for a swim. The phone is going to cost me a lot of money and I won't have a warranty.
seh6183 said:
Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
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My advice - don't pay 600-800$ for device without warranty.
You never know..
I have device for a two months, I had Z1 (still have it) and I don't have any problems with both.
I totally agree with that post - nobody will open thread - my device is working perfectly -
All you can see here is problems and guys seeking for help but that doesn't mean it's faulty device.
As I said, I'm perfectly satisfied with Xperia Line and will buy Z3 as well...
That will be perfect device
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funky0308 said:
My advice - don't pay 600-800$ for device without warranty.
You never know..
I have device for a two months, I had Z1 (still have it) and I don't have any problems with both.
I totally agree with that post - nobody will open thread - my device is working perfectly -
All you can see here is problems and guys seeking for help but that doesn't mean it's faulty device.
As I said, I'm perfectly satisfied with Xperia Line and will buy Z3 as well...
That will be perfect device
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Im thinking about getting it and getting an aftermarket warranty like squaretrade.
seh6183 said:
Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
So how long have you had your phone? Do you use the magnetic charging connector at all?
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i've had my phone for over 2 months batch no 14w17 no single fault works flawlessly can record 4k up to 9 mins and doesn't shut down till i turn it off myself and then the warning kicks in i reckon others having problems have conflicting apps downloaded and they just don't know it yet i use the charging dock from day one nothing has pulled out i submerge the phone in water a lot no leaks the phone does exactly what the whitepaper says i use a 64gb sandisc sdhc sd card
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i've had my phone for over 2 months batch no 14w17 no single fault works flawlessly can record 4k up to 9 mins and doesn't shut down till i turn it off myself and then the warning kicks in i reckon others having problems have conflicting apps downloaded and they just don't know it yet i use the charging dock from day one nothing has pulled out i submerge the phone in water a lot no leaks the phone does exactly what the whitepaper says i use a 64gb sandisc sdhc sd card
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Well that sounds absolutely great! I just ordered a white one from Amazon.com after reading all the great reviews on it. People are saying its the best phone they have ever used. I also picked up a charging dock. May need to get a second one but we will see. Does the phone come with a magnetic charging cable or a regular micro-USB cable?
I don't own a Z2, but what I can say is that that magnetic conector thing is half Sony's fault, half use of cheap third party cables's fault.
AFAIK, the connector wasn't meant to be used with cables, but only on stationary charging docks. The constant movement of the cable and device while using the device while charge might be the culprit to "invoke" both parties's fault I mentioned above.
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I haven't heard anything about any Z2s shutting down from overheating, the camera closing on over temp is common though. How much time it takes before it hits the set point depends on a lot of variables, but basically the higher the ambient temp and/or the more heat generation inside phone(using data, high CPU loads, continuous live view, etc) prior/during camera use will impact it. I live in a warm region and when testing I got 6min of 4k before hitting alarm.
My phone is put on a magnetic dock every night and everytime I get in my and my port is doing fine.
My phone is from week 17 and has a the of center issues but everything works fine.
I didn't add a squaretrade warranty (not sure if could since didn't add it within 30 days of purchase), if I have a warranty issue prior to the US having parts I'll just send it to it's retail country.
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Felimenta97 said:
I don't own a Z2, but what I can say is that that magnetic conector thing is half Sony's fault, half use of cheap third party cables's fault.
AFAIK, the connector wasn't meant to be used with cables, but only on stationary charging docks. The constant movement of the cable and device while using the device while charge might be the culprit to "invoke" both parties's fault I mentioned above.
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I have w17 version and i haven't encountered any defects of any kind. This phone is awesome !
I have a week 20 phone without any issues and I consider it a fantastic device! come from note 1.
I've had my Z2 for a month now and couldn't be happier. No problems with over heating (Haven't done the 4K recording thing though), plug in my magnetic charge cable overnight (well, mostly every other night - what an awesome battery!).
I immediately installed Nova and have settled on Smart Launcher pro.
Also, was too impatient for OTA .402 update, so I did that myself.
When Sony support stops, I'll probably go CM but, for the moment, it's all good.
Michael
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Just try to buy week 22 or higer (you have a little sticker that you pull out in sdcard compartment.
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Thing is how to verify this when the box is sealed.
week 22 is may 26 to jun 1
is this date printed on the bar code on the box itself ?
seh6183 said:
It's hard for me to imagine a Sony product that isn't made of the highest quality.
When browsing around the Sony forums and other places on the net, I keep seeing the same complaints. The magnetic charging ports are falling out which is allowing water to leak into the phone, ruining the phone. The phone also shuts down after downloading a lot of data over LTE or recording with the camera, due to overheating. I also see reports of people being unable to hold conversations because one party can not hear the other.
Are these people over exaggerating or are these real complaints? I was just ready to pull the trigger on one when I started seeing all of this stuff. Can anyone chime in that has had their phone over 1 month and has ZERO issues with it? Maybe there are just a select few that got a bad batch or something.
If you post can you also please post when you bought the phone or when you think it was manufactured. Maybe we can narrow this down to a time frame or specific region.
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I came to Z2 from Galaxy Note 3, before that I had HTC One.
Z2 is the best for me among the 3 devices, it is not ideal but ticks all my boxes.
I have a 14W17 and while it gets warm when recording 4K, I did not manage to overheat it. I made a test yesterday just to check out, Ireland, Dublin, around 20 degrees yesterday in the shadow. I was walking in the sun and recording for 5 minutes, 4k video with steady shot, so even more demanding for internals. The phone was warmish, but not as hot as I thought.
Afterwards I checked and the CPU temp was 61 degrees while battery temp was 37 degrees, so yes, it gets warm but not so hot.
What was making this phone really hot was the AR mode or the special effects app, that lets you put things like falling satelite, ghosts and other stuff postprocessing. Those two made the phone hot, but nothing else is able to make mine this hot and I do not care about those two modes anyway.
I would really recommend this phone but I would never buy it without any kind of warranty. I would never buy piece of electronics that is that expensive, without any kind of warranty.
Anyway, look at M8 forum, Samsung forums. Those people that are happy, usually don't praise the phone on forums, but those that have problems - do... I was really worried and almost certain, I would not buy Sony but I said oh well, let's try something new (never had Sony phone before, only sony-ericsson). I do not regret it for now, even just for battery life it was worth it for me, I don't care about waterproofness whatsoever.
Noise cancelling headphones is a great plus as well!
Z2 should be available later this year is USA I think, if not, maybe Z3?
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Exactly this, most people come to the forum are looking for help solving a problem or require specific needs but the truth is that these people are a vast minority of all the users of the phone rather than people making threads praising and complementing the device except for example if you look in the battery thread or the camera thread.
I've got a week 15 model and I love my phone, it's the best phone I've ever had, the previous phones I had that I considered the best were the Xperia X1 and the Motorola V3X.
Anyway, don't be dissuaded from the phone because of complaints you see in forums but that warranty issue, that's a bit dodgy, I wouldn't buy something if it didn't come with a guarantee or warranty.
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Thing is how to verify this when the box is sealed.
week 22 is may 26 to jun 1
is this date printed on the bar code on the box itself ?
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You should be able to inspect the device before purchasing it and if you're purchasing from an online retailer you should have 7-14 days exchange/refund as per distance selling laws (if applicable in your country) if you're not happy with it after inspection, you wouldn't buy a car without taking a look inside/giving it a test drive would you?
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Well a huge problem is that I live in the USA and Sony will not cover any manufacture defect because there is zero warranty coverage in the US. I went through this with a Motorola phone I bought from Canada once.
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I find this odd since t-mobile already offers the z2 in the US. Isn't it possible to buy off contract from sony within the US as well ?
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You should be able to inspect the device before purchasing it and if you're purchasing from an online retailer you should have 7-14 days exchange/refund as per distance selling laws (if applicable in your country) if you're not happy with it after inspection, you wouldn't buy a car without taking a look inside/giving it a test drive would you?
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Way they do it in my country is they show you a demo model that is tethered with a security cable. You can play with that one as long as you want.
Then if you decide to buy they offer you a sealed box, some may open it if there is a possibility of a sale otherwise not. Prefer to buy from a shop than online.
I understand that there is date printed on the barcode of the box itself, so wondered if there was a correlation between whats printed on the microsd tray and the box itself.
This way its much easier to distinguish newer batches from old without opening the box.
Can anyone confirm ?

Z5 Compact with SBH-80 range is pathetic.

Hey guys,
I basically bought the SBH-80 for about £40 and I'm experiencing some erratic behavior.
Sometimes if I leave the phone on my desk I can walk to the other side of the house before audio starts distorting i.e. the range is good. But sometimes the range is like 20cm. I kind find any pattern which would explain this discrepancy. The range is awful about 95% of the time.
The problem is I cycle to work, the phone works fine when I'm setting it up. It connects quickly and music starts playing. As soon as I put it into my pockets the music distorts, snap, crackle, pops and is basically unusable.
I've probably missed out lots of vital information but this is the jist of the issue. Can anyone recommend me trying anything?
note: It's not the headunit, I've tested it with an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 5 and it functions perfectly.
theprince1991 said:
Hey guys,
I basically bought the SBH-80 for about £40 and I'm experiencing some erratic behavior.
Sometimes if I leave the phone on my desk I can walk to the other side of the house before audio starts distorting i.e. the range is good. But sometimes the range is like 20cm. I kind find any pattern which would explain this discrepancy. The range is awful about 95% of the time.
The problem is I cycle to work, the phone works fine when I'm setting it up. It connects quickly and music starts playing. As soon as I put it into my pockets the music distorts, snap, crackle, pops and is basically unusable.
I've probably missed out lots of vital information but this is the jist of the issue. Can anyone recommend me trying anything?
note: It's not the headunit, I've tested it with an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 5 and it functions perfectly.
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bad news bro. that happened to my sbh80 too. bought it for $100 last year. either your bluetooth antenna(left earpiece cable) snapped or you have damaged bluetooth module. mine had that problem 3 months after buying it. kept it in storage for months i forgot i ever bought it. then i saw it again while i was cleaning up with 90% battery. tried it and now it works well. i don't know what happened as i sold it the next day for $65.
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bad news bro. that happened to my sbh80 too. bought it for $100 last year. either your bluetooth antenna(left earpiece cable) snapped or you have damaged bluetooth module. mine had that problem 3 months after buying it. kept it in storage for months i forgot i ever bought it. then i saw it again while i was cleaning up with 90% battery. tried it and now it works well. i don't know what happened as i sold it the next day for $65.
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Brilliant lol It lasted ONE cycle trip, before it started distorting. Thankfully the eBay seller said I can return it. It's such a shame... I really like the design. Can you recommend any other bluetooth headsets?
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Brilliant lol It lasted ONE cycle trip, before it started distorting. Thankfully the eBay seller said I can return it. It's such a shame... I really like the design. Can you recommend any other bluetooth headsets?
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I'd say jaybird bluebuds since you cycle to work. They sound really good too.
I've got a Plantronics Voyager Legend. Within the same room (~20ft) it seems ok, but if it has to go through a wall (~30ft), it starts to break up. I once tried going up one floor and on the opposite side of the house (maybe 50ft at most) and it was really bad.
I figured that bluetooth in general wasn't that great.
I've never had an issue with the phone on me though.
I have more issues with my bluetooth mouse connected to my laptop
eumanoid said:
I'd say jaybird bluebuds since you cycle to work. They sound really good too.
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Ooft they are very expensive, not sure if I can endure such a hit on my bank account . I appreciate good audio quality. At home I use Grado SR225i's with Little Dot 1+ amp and I love it... Not tried a headphone more than I like that combination. But when it comes to earphones I don't really care about quality because I know I won't get anything close to the grado, the Sony earphones that came with my Z1 Compact are more than good enough but, of course, it's not wireless.
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I've got a Plantronics Voyager Legend. Within the same room (~20ft) it seems ok, but if it has to go through a wall (~30ft), it starts to break up. I once tried going up one floor and on the opposite side of the house (maybe 50ft at most) and it was really bad.
I figured that bluetooth in general wasn't that great.
I've never had an issue with the phone on me though.
I have more issues with my bluetooth mouse connected to my laptop
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I've read a few threads were the Z5 was having trouble connecting to bluetooth in people's cars etc but I think my issue is with the headset because it doesn't actually work with any other phone either
I have a z1 compact, and I've always had bt issues with it across devices. I have a z5 compact arriving tomorrow, reading this isn't inspiring.
I use a sbh52, and it never quite worked right with sony, but I think that was mostly due to the data channel stuff and how it interacted with the app for email alerts and other socket stuff that uses raw serial protocols to communicate. I've at times had 4-5 different serial devices attached to the phone, and none of them are happy when doing so. The radio seems to become selective about who is actually working at a time, but the upstream consumers at the bluez socket layer seem unaware stuff isn't working.
I got a non-sony phone, a sharp aquos, and using it with my sbh52 without any sony software, and only that - it rocks actually, range and all. I felt a little bit bad I used to talk so much crap about it.
My biggest telltale of bluetooth serial dysfunction with my z1c was my google glass, which works entirely as both a persistent tethered device via bt, and a headset device. Data for glass via bt also refused to work if I disabled the headset kindly, so in other words bluetooth dysfunction ruined usability when mobile. Now I tether my glass to my tablet data that does no other bt, and seems to work pretty dandy.
It seems more of a bluetooth stack issue as a whole, either between google and/or firmware vendors, and if my z5 gives me issues too, I'll just need to find a more "dumb" headset.
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I started watching catlog (log reader) when using my glass and headset troubleshooting, and would suggest doing so too.
I would always see "innocuous" looking messages about the bt, but nothing seemed to ever really "break". I'd see disconnects and reconnects, when one device or the other wouldn't/couldn't connect, seemed at the radio level though as the headset would just give up trying to connect.
Happened the same to me too. Xperia z5c+sbh80. The audio is kinda lagging whenever I put in my pocket. But, I have read somewhere in xda post that somebody claimed it might related with stamina mode configuration (solution given: put audio setting into exception list) and it might related to activity on the fingerprint scanner as well (really? solution given: try to avoid any contact on the fingerprint scanner because z5c try to initiate vibration mode while the audio is still playing). I have try both solutions, and yeah, there are little bit less lagging activity.
I'm using Sony SBH-80 as well, and it works perfect. I'm listening about 2-3h music/day, loads of calls through SBH80, and it works fine. Indeed, sometimes it disconnects automatically (usually when I'm using facebook call and I receive an email or something like that). On my S6 dual sim didn't happened that, but I can live with that. Sorry guys to hear that you have issues with that, on my side it's fine.
Late reply guys sorry.
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I have a z1 compact, and I've always had bt issues with it across devices. I have a z5 compact arriving tomorrow, reading this isn't inspiring. .
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So does the Z5 compact work with your headset then? They seem to release cool devices, update to a later version of android, it ends up not working properly and they pretty much just forget about it.
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Happened the same to me too. Xperia z5c+sbh80. The audio is kinda lagging whenever I put in my pocket. But, I have read somewhere in xda post that somebody claimed it might related with stamina mode configuration (solution given: put audio setting into exception list) and it might related to activity on the fingerprint scanner as well (really? solution given: try to avoid any contact on the fingerprint scanner because z5c try to initiate vibration mode while the audio is still playing). I have try both solutions, and yeah, there are little bit less lagging activity.
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I don't have stamina mode on (reduces performaces WAY too much... like 5 seconds to open an app...unacceptable) but yeah I too have notices weird distortion effects when I receive a facebook message.
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I'm using Sony SBH-80 as well, and it works perfect. I'm listening about 2-3h music/day, loads of calls through SBH80, and it works fine. Indeed, sometimes it disconnects automatically (usually when I'm using facebook call and I receive an email or something like that). On my S6 dual sim didn't happened that, but I can live with that. Sorry guys to hear that you have issues with that, on my side it's fine.
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Ah lucky you! I guess I'll wait for my replacement and see what's up :fingers-crossed:
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Late reply guys sorry.
So does the Z5 compact work with your headset then? They seem to release cool devices, update to a later version of android, it ends up not working properly and they pretty much just forget about it.
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Yes! My SBH52 was absolute crap with my z1c (random disconnects, sound levels, just never connecting), with a Sony original rom, Cyanogen10-11, any kernel/rom I tried. With my z5c, my SBH52 works dandy, even with the sony app installed for the data link, as well as my SBH60's that came with the z5c as a Clove special. Need to resurrect my jawbone, everyone hated it I spoke to prior, now I'm curious about it too.
Oddly, my friend just upgraded too, didn't want to spend the extra for a z5c, so got a used z3c instead, and has a lot of issues with his bluetooth as well. Mine was more disconnections, devices fighting over connections, but his seems to be just simple horrible quality, like noise entering in when used, so not sure if it's bad software or bad phy bt chip or a bunk build.prop on it. Sound always required a lot of tweaking on my z1c, it was useless without root and hacking to fix the crap sony rom build or a *good* 3rd party rom, so maybe it as well.
Range-wise, I've used the SBH52's with my phone upstairs on my desk, and walking downstairs about 30 feet away and through a hall/wall. The SBH60 has much less range I've found, 20 feet away and down the hall same level codec sound comes unglued.
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I don't have stamina mode on (reduces performaces WAY too much... like 5 seconds to open an app...unacceptable) but yeah I too have notices weird distortion effects when I receive a facebook message.
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I don't ever use stamina modes... My battery life is/was always crap on my z1c (~6-8hr), as I collect a bunch of push imap accounts with aquamail, multiple gmail accounts, lots of system level apps, so it's almost expected my battery life to be nil. I've been a bit more pleasantly surprised with the z5c with most everything from my z1c loaded (~10-15hr), the battery life is still better, but the z1c was also ~3yr old with original battery.
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Ah lucky you! I guess I'll wait for my replacement and see what's up :fingers-crossed:
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They *did* have the whole headphone connection issue on the z3c, really don't know how much of those sorts of things come down to maybe bad connectors internally. Doesn't seem to matter if you're apple or sony, us or china, sh*t happens.
My only impetus for upgrade was I noticed I had some discoloration on my z1c lcd, and my phone now had a noticeable curve in the middle (think lg flex) after apparently sitting on it the wrong way, so replacing it before it just died was key. So far I'm happier with the z5c. as thus far "everything works", including sound levels that were always an issue with the z1c too (bad Sony), and especially bluetooth function. The fingerprint reader unlock convenience is awesome, and I'm looking forward to trying payments with it. I came across the z5 drm restore now, so it's rooting time, and it's going to get even better once I can remove nauseating ads with an adblock means, and using xprivacy again since since disables app privacy (gee, thanks big brother).

LG V60 ThinkQ Dual screen problems?

I hopped on the T-MO B1G1 deal with my brother and after a week of trying things out, we noticed every now and then our dual screen (when both screens are active) the left one glitches. Does anyone have that problem? See picture attachment for an idea. In a nutshell, this only happens when I have both screens active and multi-tasking at times where the left screen will get a glitchy lighting error.
The glitch is either a quick shut off and turn on with the left screen or it quickly changes the left screen to be bright and colorful as shown in the picture.
If anyone ran into this problem and know how to fix it, please share it! My brother's LG v60 doesn't get this dual-screen glitch as often, only once or twice for him while I'm getting it almost everyday. I'm hoping to avoid another format, I'm wondering if it's an app or setting that is not compatible with dual screen.
Thanks
*Looks like I can't post a picture yet until I get more posts in.*
Your unit is defected. Contact t-mobile for a replacement. There are videos on youtube of a few users with the same experience.
I myself haven't had issues, I've had it for a week now
Had mine since march 25th and no issues either.
Here is the video on youtube about one reviewer with a 2nd display issue
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Had mine since march 25th and no issues either.
Here is the video on youtube about one reviewer with a 2nd display issue
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Thanks for all the replies! It happened to my bro's LG V60 today again and so we are pretty sure both of our dual screen is defected.
I'll try with LG Promise warranty to see if I can get a replacement dual screen first, hopefully they can take care of it faster than T-Mobile. T-mobile has been giving me ****ty customer service lately, so hopefully LG can make it right.
Thanks all.
Now normally TMobile will overnight a device if you have insurance. If you don't have insurance it's a 3-5 day wait for a replacement
Wide-mode app part of this?
I ran into this with my AT&T velvet. LG replaced it and it's been working for the past week.
Question: Did you install the wide-mode for LG app? I was wondering if that might have done something to some bit of memory somewhere. It didn't claim to support the Velvet but I tried it anyway. I don't remember if that's when it started acting up. I factory-reset the phone to see if that helped but the problem kept re-occurring. I emailed the app's author but got no reply.
I figured I'd ask. I'd like to re-install the app but don't want to possibly mess things up.
Thanks,
Frank
I got the phone over the weekend and mines glitches often i when back to t mobile and they replaced my dual screen and yet again with in a hour it still glitching
try a little tape/padding between the phone bottom port and the case usb plug, its probably a connection problem, poor design, im unable to return mine so this worked great for me.
dual Screen bad connection, maybe solved with wedge?
My dual screen case has been playing up, about 90% of the time i clip on the case the screen does not work after a few minutes due to movement. it seems LG has made a bad design with the usb c connection and poga style pins at the bottom of...
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try a little tape/padding between the phone bottom port and the case usb plug, its probably a connection problem, poor design, im unable to return mine so this worked great for me.
dual Screen bad connection, maybe solved with wedge?
My dual screen case has been playing up, about 90% of the time i clip on the case the screen does not work after a few minutes due to movement. it seems LG has made a bad design with the usb c connection and poga style pins at the bottom of...
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I had to have my dual screen replaced. The screen would just turn green and fade out. Lg sent it in less than a week. There's no reason to resort to things like tape or stuff. All V60s are still under warranty. Just send the screen part back to lg and they will replace it.
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.... All V60s are still under warranty. Just send the screen part back to lg and they will replace it.
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not sure if you have travelled much, but LG warranty isn't worldwide... i cant get back to the usa any time soon, plus im getting free top quality healthcare where i am, so gonna use it as long as i can.
gary776677 said:
try a little tape/padding between the phone bottom port and the case usb plug, its probably a connection problem, poor design, im unable to return mine so this worked great for me.
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I'm in the same boat, and used the same solution. I have a thin metal disc that mates with a magnet to use as a stand, mount the phone, etc. (IM Stick). Installing that disc at the very bottom of the case gave the USB C connector just what it needed to mate correctly. Bonus: No interference with wireless charging!

Question Xperia 1 mark III overheating

Hi,
I noticed my xperia 1 mark III is overheating even in normal use, especially in 120Hz mode. I hope sony will fix it as this device is really scalding.
It really burns!
This is the hottest device I ever had
Software version: 61.0.A.11.23
You're burning up your battery. Time is of the essence, resolve this issue fast. Shutdown the phone if it gets too hot!!!
Auto thermal shutdown may not protect the display/mobo especially if in hot ambient temperatures, in direct sunlight, or when charging.
Keep brightness at 50% or less.
Factory reset.
If that fails...
Find the apks or/and services causing to high drain.
If that fails, return the device.
The clock is ticking, Mr Wick tic-tok...
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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It is serious. Turn off the phone when it feels very warm before it goes over temperature.
Using a AMOLED display in direct sunlight is never a good plan. Limit it to seconds of use.
I have had this same problem since I got it to the point where I got an alert that some apps would be shutdown.
US Version purchased from Adoroma in the states : 61.0.A.11.23
Just another aggravating issue with this phone. Some are having boot loops of a sort also! What is wrong with these companies? Can they not produce a decent product anymore? 1300.00 and it's junk???????????
I am getting overheating as well, a little warm most of the time I use the phone.
Definitely was the 120hz display turned on. Less warm when the 60.
When using the wireless charger.
Anytime I use the cameras.
I am on the latest update as well.
Hm, very intriguing issue with $1300 flagship smartphone from such a respectable brand. I had similar problem with Xperia 1 II in several occasions. And... I think I know what's the problem (not bloody hot SD888 as you might suggest!). Please have a good look at dissasembly video:
Then compare it with $390 LG V60 ThinQ disassembly video from the same guy. Spot the difference! And it is - missing cooling system on Xperia 1 II / 1 III whereas LG V60 has quite big copper vapour chamber! Maybe that's why my LG V60 never gets really hot. So the question is ... WTF are you doing SONY?!
Well, I just sent back my first Pixel - 5A - for overheating. I have been watching the 1 iii and the 5 iii as a possible purchase...but I am turned off by the dedicated assistant button that might possibly be remappable... but for sure I will NOT buy either of these mark 3 phones if they overheat! Makes me sick just how badly most new phones are functioning.
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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I think it's the case for warranty replacement or even return if possible. This is one of the reason why I don't buy expensive brand new phones parallel imported (not officially sold in my country). Just because it means no proper warranty, no service, no nothing.
My Xperia 1 III is getting extremely hot even when taking photos (only 2-3) then get message about hot temperature and apps shutting down.
I use Streamlabs mostly (sometimes Prism) to broadcast to YouTube, foundthe phone almost useless! Overheating in seconds from start of s stream! I'm using my old Samsung Note 10 again as Sony wasn't simply useful.
Now I found a solution to it (sorry solution is too big word)
- I've turned "object tracking" off in camera
- I've turned autofocus on in camera
- I've turned 120hz off
Today we had hot day here in UK (27 Celcius ) I did my tests.
Streamlabs at 1080p , 7000kbps , 30fps run outdoor for about an hour smoothly. Connected to charger started to overheat.
Not to mention that tethering makes it hot quickly (so with Samsung).
Prism at 1080p 60fps run smoothly for couple of minutes and then crashed.
Didn't connect the charger.
I use Streamlabs to transmit 5-6 hours of stream into YouTube using mobile network in most if the times and whilst driving (so changing stations constantly)
I found that using WiFi it doesn't get as hot.
Also charging makes it very hot - SONY advertised it as able to by powered directly by a charger without charging battery, how and where do I find that option?
Is it available using car charger with quick charge 3.0?
I like the phone , like the shape , size and feel to it. Camera is OK (I own Sony a6500 )
Hate the fact of poor selfie camera in such expensive phone (I do live streams using selfie cam too)
Right I've ordered a return of my phone and have 30 days to send it back what alternatives do I have? Really like the SONY if it wasn't overheating I'd love it. Is there a solution to it? Cooler anything?
The things I like about the phone are:
*shape and overall feel in hand
*Cameras are ok don't really see if they great quality or not will still use my a6500 camera.
*Like the fact that can use sd card
*Love finger print reader in power button and seperate camera button
*like the fact that there's no rounded edges - hate them in my Samsung Note
I blame my problems with overheating by poorly made apps not the phone itself and not sure changing the phone will change it.
What are the options should I consider? Samsung S21 Ultra ? iPhone 12,13?
I'm a SONY fan and had many if their phones and that's why I'm looking for a solution otherwise would send it back straight away...
Can anyone help me with my problem?
Many thanks
Bart
Unfortunately greedy sony didn't provide any cooling solution to mark 3... Check disassembly videos, there is no any cooling solution at all, like you will find in asus - small vapor chamber etc. Literally nothing!
They knew snap 888 is overheating. They must have tested this device before releasing it, isn't it?
But no, still didn't apply any cooling solution. And that's a big shame and huge problem of this device.
Not sure if qualcomm provide any updated drivers to assess this problem or not. Or if sony will try to fix it. So far they did nothing and still it overheats. Mine too and you are right by saying that on 3G/5G it is hotter than on wifi.
I wonder how they can market battery as capable and better for 3 years with such hot device. Temperature of course has huge negative impact on battery longevity.
Sad but true
I'm quite shocked! Thanks for the info about disassembly videos...
I'm thinking if getting a cooler which you attach to the body.
What I forgot to mention that cameras itself (the lenses) don't get that hot is the area under them and closer to the centre. So must be processor and lack of cooling system.
Not sure what to do...
We have a hot weather now so I will test it intensively (if I was a Sony tester I'd never allow for the phone to be released like this).
Heating problems is why I keep saying that for any SOC/CPU/GPU manufacturer to keep upping the speeds of these things is STUPID! I can virtually guarantee that from now on every new CPU produced by all OEM's is going to overheat! Have you ever walked into a data center, with hundreds of servers running? You have to wear ear protection because the roar of all the internal cooling fans is deafening!
So then "we" attempt to put similar CPU's inside a device the size of a small remote control WITHOUT a fan and wonder why it overheats? There are only so many ways to keep the phone(s) cool. Use them while frozen solid in a block of ice, or better yet, stop running so many CPU/GPU intensive apps all at the same time. It's simple thermodynamics at work here. The more you have running at the same time, the harder the SOC needs to work, the hotter it is going to run. Another solution, that is literally unacceptable to most people, is to code in a lowering of the speed of the SOC. If this needs to be done then it becomes very clear that building a new, faster SOC every year is STUPID!
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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Thanks a lot , tomorrow I will be testing - doing long live stream on YouTube using Streamlabs, I always keep my phone under charger as I drive HGV sometimes for 3-4hrs non stop so battery would die.
It also going to be hot day here in UK and having the phone close to windscreen won't help - I know I shouldn't complain about overheating in such circumstances but my phone overheats even when taking photos although I have a feeling that after last system update its looking better , also as I mentioned before switching off object tracking has improved how smooth camera works using Streamlabs and Prism.
I'm considering buying a cooler for my phone too.
I will post my report tomorrow of how it went.
Many thanks
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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I found the future now in Game Enhancer app, you can power it directly. Not sure how it will perform yet. Tomorrow will send my report.
I often run streaming app in the background and not sure if Game Enhancer will work that way. I run nav app (Sygic Truck).
Heat problem has gone down significantly for me after the latest update yesterday. Usually the phone got really warm even with me just browsing using Chrome or going through Facebook. Now even when playing ROK or Mobile Legends it doesn't get that warm.

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